>AI is the futu-ACK!
>>110124382Claude, create a hexagonal packing of loops of partial ownership.
its way worse than that. they've lost closer to $80,000,000,000.00000000000000000000
>>110124382don't worry your taxes will pay for it
>>110124382Capitalism will mean they can write it all off and keep going indefinitely. I don't know why people are so focused on the profitability.It's a useful tool so it's not going to go anywhere. Maybe someone will buy them at some point and they'll get passed about from owner to owner but that's about it.
>>110124548>someone will buy them at some pointyeah you will, more specifically your pension fund
>>110124569That will guarantee they live forever because when something is in a pension fund it's literally not allowed to fail.In the UK where I'm from we sold all our water to private companies because Thatcher was a fucking bitch with stupid crazy ideas like that and thought it was a good idea (It was not).Now some of those private companies have pension funds invested in them so even though everyone knows it's a fucking terrible idea for all these companies to own our water nobody can fix it and they're not allowed to fail.They just keep on failing successfully with no regard for the shit service they provide and all the while the shareholders and CEOs reap all the rewards.This will 100% be all the AI companies in the future.
>>110124615yeah, but they got way too big for their own good. There is something like a trillion dollerinos tied up in debt probably more in indirect ways. and ai investments are responsible for like half of usa stock growth.even if they survive, this shit is likely to crash the economy hard.
>>110124715The economy isn't going to crash. That will never be allowed to happen.
>>110124548I really don't get how you get from tax writeoffs and bailouts to "capitalism". You're describing the one-sided mechanisms these corporations enjoy that shield them from their failure to compete in the market, and then saying it's the market's fault.
>>110124787True. It's not really the markets fault, but the system they operate within.
>>110124382they will just get trump to ban every competitor until they make a profit
Turns out the inefficient solution bruteforcer isn't efficient.
>>110124855To be fair it's a genuine security concern to allow Chinese AI systems inside the US government. It's not just some "scare", if they ever had instructions to do things to their systems and were capable of realising they were inside of a US government institution and therefore able to do such things then it would be very bad.
Anthropic is a scam company. Mistral and the Chinese do 80% of what they do at 20% of the cost.
>>110124548>keep going indefinitelyits already slowing downcompanies are making their own models to use in house
>>110124921That was always going to be a thing that would happen by those that have the expertise to do such things.A smaller / more focused in-house model that does the things you care about smartly and efficiently will be better for your business than paying for something else.Not every business has the expertise to do that though.
>>110124921it was idiotic and suicidal for big corps to give away their IP and secrets to cloud models in the first place.
>>110124548Capitalism is an emergent feature of human socialization where people with capital of any kind are given power which makes both easier to acquire. Free markets and capitalism aren't necessarily the same thing or always correlated. You're both saying the same thing but you don't share definitions and think you're arguing.
>>110124744The economy will always exist in general sense but all this international trade, cheap money, cheap labor, cheap energy, etc. is by no means guaranteed.
>>110124548None of this crap is free market capitalism, a venture as unprofitable as this would have died long ago not get coddled by the government every step of the way. We haven't lived under capitalism for a long fucking time.
>>110124948no big company is gonna trust OpenAI or Anthropic after the millennial math problem shitshow.
>>110124514This. Also as inflation goes up so will your rent because uncle Boomer pays more in interest on his mortgage. And by the way he will write it off his taxes. You won’t do that with your rent though. Enjoy getting penetrated metaphorically speaking.
>>110124548The problem is that if its not profitable to run these cutting edge LLMs then people will just stop running them. It'll take years if not decades for models and hardware to catch up and allow people to do the kinds of shit they're currently doing. yeah you'll see research departments use them to work on some math or theoretical physics problem but those people are expecting to make a profit.
>>110124890to be fair china would be a better global hegemon than the US and to be fair, america is/has ass cancer
Debt doesn't even matter anymore, btw who are they even lending from It doesn't matter when the interest the US has to pay on their debt is so high that they need to make debt just to pay the interest, it's over, it's all or nothing LMAO
Most countries everywhere already pay boomers pensions to waste everyone’s time and energy. They will just create a new tax for everyone called the SI tax. You pay for the boomers already. Enjoy more taxes!
>>110124548pretty much. the money is fake anyway. they "lost" money they got from a bank, which just printed it out of thin air. nobody higher up is actually losing anything. they'll just roll that loss to the poorfags by some economic trickery like they've always done.
>>110125287China might just stop exporting, since they produce nearly everything everyone would be rather fucked then, probably will happen lol
>>110125092I fucking hate how true this is. My mortgage is 2/3rd the average cost of rent and is a larger than average property. Kill all boomers
damn thats crazyanyway when is fable 5.5 dropping
>>110124569keeeeeeek
>>110124744It crashed before, most recently in the late 2000s
>>110124382Claude, come up with a new profit-inspired metric. Make sure it looks positive!
If the AI is so good , why doesn't it design its circuits?
>>110125728"AI" have been designing circuits for ages and humans are mostly there to figure out how to make their designs work in reality.
i just don't understand this ai industry if this shit is expensive for me and it's expensive for business that pay them to save costs because it would be too expensive for them, then it must be even more expensive for the frontier labs far too expensive to ever turn a profit even at the prices they chargenone of these companies can possibly be making money
>>110125759Yeah, they don't. The companies making money are hardware sellers who turn a profit by selling to compute sellers who turn a profit sellling to the frontier model labs who all lose money.
>>110124382>literally nothing happensyep, they won
Yeah so AI just owns the Internet now.
It's just accounting bullshit they didn't actually spend that much
>>110125404Come build a road with me and the boys out where they wont come looking, build each other homesteads
Top signal perhaps?
