Blessed thread of frenship

What should I train into moss? Never tried it before.

Hey can you guys not make new threads when your previous one is literally the first in the catalogue? Thanks.

>>110125235
Many anons learned for the first time recently (a few months ago) that arena leader boards are dumb and gay desu

>>110125228
Moss is trash. Don't be like Moss-fag. You'll turn obese and bald like him if you do.

https://huggingface.co/lightx2v/Minimax-h3-Turbo/tree/main

updated loras for minimax.

>>110125310
I'm already bald tho

And really I'm asking cause doing single art styles seems boring but maybe not, and im not really interested currently in deepfake face stuff. Hoping anon has an interesting idea or something idk

>>110125323
If you have a decent rig, there's literally no reason to use Moss. Go on Civitai and look at the stuff it produces, it's trash-tier.

The only guy in the threads who promotes it is a latent homosexual with aids.

>>110125189
>*sniffs*

>>110125330
You're not gunna convince me to not use it, sorry! Keep sperging out of whatever I guess idc

Sirs;
Does Fibo know dicks, cunts? Can it redeem sex positions?
Please do the needful and respond promptly.

>>110125341
>Sperging out

Oh Moss fag, you've fallen so low to start pretending to be someone who wants advice on Moss. Come on bruv...

Why does this guy keep accusing me of someone else? What is this mental illness?

>>110125235
Didn't fibo have an earlier version that was like the first json prompting model?

>>110125389
I've got a deal for you Moss fag; I have to train a SnarkyJay lora for my Patreon on commission. I'll try training her on Moss as well afterwards, with effort, ok?

If it still looks like dogshit I'm giving up. I'll at least give it a try, ok? Just go to the gym and get those cocks out of your mouth

I really don't care. Have fun or whatever

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Do you accept her offering?

>>110125408
Fat and ill-humble until the end. You really are an Indian, aren't you?

Is debo here? I have a question

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>Go to check what new models are out
>Nearly everything is gated

I hate the way things are going on Civitai now. Everyone thinks their dog shit model is worth 1000 buzz, then they cry when no one downloads it and pull their models.

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why

cant you just put in whatever?

>>110125189
In future please don't cross-link to ani threads.

>>110125537
doesnt explain why though

https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/Fibo-2.0/tree/main

so is it any good

>>110125558
only lolcows are scared by anons seeing the correct previous thread anon

>>110125565
moss killer
download now

>>110125504
>website incentivizes quantity over quality to boost engagement and other worthless BS metrics
>website gets taken over by izzat farming jeets spamming garbage to game the system
Tale as old as modern internet.
Civit might still chug along for years though. No one wants to touch AI generated NSFW rabbit hole because it is a legal nightmare. I don't think it will die soon no matter how shit it gets.

>>110125579
Stop projecting on others. You spent your entire day desperately trying to get a deleted and failed miserably like the failure you are.

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Testing the comfy high resolution lora

so is moss ideal at 50 steps 3 cfg or is 25/2.5 fine

Kreas final days

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>>110125608
turbo at 8 steps with dynamic threasholding

moss really is pretty fun, I forgot why I liked variations

I haven't payed attention to anything since Illustrious and ZiT. Which of the new images models (moss, qwen image, krea 2, anima) produces the best images to goon to? 1girl, no clothes, big boobs... that sort of thing.

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>>110125586
>Indians move into house next to wife and I last week
>Every day they blast Indian music until 2AM, have literal street parties, block the street by parking wherever they want, and dump their rubbish on the street so the wind blows it all over the road and into everyones gardens
>They don't give a shit at all
>Police will do nothing because everyone on street are white, so they are the protected ""minority"" (despite being the world majority)
>Just now I hear their kid kick a soccer ball into another neighbors parked car and his alarm went off

I hate Indians so much. Why do they have to be fucking EVERYWHERE?

>>110125627
Flux 3

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>>110125614
Shut up, moss fag. Here's a good Lora for you.

Did minimax ever release their "Regenerate-2K" method and their sparse attention implementation?

>>110125627
how big do you want? moss without loras:
https://files.catbox.moe/sorpfu.jpg

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a wireframe drawing of an anime style hatsune miku on a white sheet of paper.

neat. (25 steps/2.5cfg, with prompt upsampler on)

>>110125598
>high resolution lora
what is this?

Kreafag crying

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hatsune miku made out of origami paper in her traditional colors.

>>110125671
Suck my cock. The only reason you're using Moss is because you're brown and poor.

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one more

a painting of hatsune miku in the style of van gogh.

>>110125661
moss has very good breast variety unlike krea

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i really hope this is worth it. 10 second minimax vid at 0.98 mega pixels

I wonder if using moss then refine with krea would give better variety to krea 2.

>>110125670
https://huggingface.co/comfyanonymous/MOSS_image_MAX_ULTRA_hires_lora_test

>>110125730
thank you

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Moss is legitimately only good for poor people who can't run anything else. It's the most "low quality, high output" model there is.

>>110125639
Can I run it on 16 GB of VRAM on Forge Neo?

>>110125661
Promising. Downloading. Thanks fren.

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>"I...It's uncensored!"
>It can't even be trained on real people's faces

Just use Illustrious at that point if all you're doing is anime.

>google AI overview

>>110125737
>dunks on good new model with AI overview
>can't even name any alternative

>>110125746
what are you even talking about?

>>110125739
NTA, haven't tried this but there's an extension for flux3, not sure if/when haoming will support it natively
https://github.com/eduardoabreu81/flux3-image-forge-neo

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Welcome back friends.

the slop keeps sloppin'

now that the settled dust has finished, is moss worth it?

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>>110125816
yes.

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>>110125816
It's fun model

moss is very fun, it's been a while since I could install a model and just randomly enter things and let it go
if anyone is curious, use an abliteration lora on the qwen model before using it to enhance prompt, and it'll stop whining about nsfw
https://huggingface.co/nynxz/Qwen3.5-9B/tree/main/loras

rape of krea continues
kreafag continues crying

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I was scared

>moss image
>default settings
>no positive or negative prompt
>output is a barely clothed loli
these chinks are omega based. shame none of them cared to sneak in danbooru/e621

>>110125401
so did you train?

>>110125816
first model ive used that was able to create a scene with a lora featuring more than one female celeb that did not blend them together or lost their features and also have them do a lot of very degen shit just as prompted
im happy, unironically good they nuked /r/

>>110125855
I believe you that it helps with refusals, but why did the author of Heretic basically come out and say "stop using abliterated models they make outputs worse"? Anon has brought that up frequently it seems.

Of frenship. Yep.

how uncensored is moss?

Anyone with a 3090 tried gpu unlock yet? How much speedup do you get?
LLM prefills are getting 20-30% speedup, I can imagine image gen would be even higher.

>>110126116
ldg sitcom when

we are so back

>>110126083
more than any model ever desubeit

>>110126031
he is correct if you change the intended text encoder/clip with a model that wasn't to be used with moss, like an abliterated one
here the text encoder is also used as an actual llm to enhance the prompt entered, so you can perfectly apply an abliteration lora to it without issue, as long as you don't touch the clip to sampler path itself

>>110126083
most uncensored from the get go since basically sd days

>>110125646
>Moss fag's perfect style lora
>its a Krea lora
what did kreasister mean by this?

>>110125855
is q3.5-9b really o-kay for prompt rewriting? ive been using a big ol cloud model to create prompts for moss... i feel like with writing and rewriting i would get frustrated with 3.5-9b. i wonder if its good enough to plant its own bboxes as well

what model is the best for fat fetish gooning thanks

now now, we've been up for 1 hour and already fake model / user in-fighting, cease!

>>110126300
it was serviceable so far, since it's there, might as well use it, but I didn't try complex stuff or json etc

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fr we need to love each other

who's the king of edit

SD1.5 could not do porn

>>110126083
It's Dalle 3 levels of uncensored (gore, porn). If you were around here during days of Chroma, it's just as and likely even more uncensored than that, but even better in coherence (much less fuckups), and virtually zero slop. Krea 2/Kroma is still a slightly more coherent model capable of sharper images, but Moss is better at many things such as text and counting.

>>110126328
you have a very bad taste for a faggot anon

>>110126328
dem titties

you ever have preview step outputs turned on and watch them throughout the entire generation? sometimes you can see the model deciding where to put for example a face between two areas - going back and forth for a couple of steps before making a final decision.

very interesting.

>>110126363
whats your straight taste in men anon?

>>110126390
>you ever have preview step outputs turned on and watch them throughout the entire generation?
no anon i don't think anyone ever did that

>>110126363
don't talk to him

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I haven’t used Wan 2.2 anymore since I found the right balance between the limitations and the potential of Minimax Turbo.
But what the hell happened to wan 3.0?

>>110126399
well i used to have them disabled for the longest time because i didnt want to ruin the surprise, and my gens never took long enough for me to really care about "wasting time on a bad seed". but some months ago i re-enabled them and i cant believe i ever turned them off in the first place.

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All the returning LDG army get a free lady on me

>>110126395
definitely no sewn-on button studs and black dots that look like cheap motor oil is molding inside a plastic chest
(as a straight male)

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forge neo does moss native now
https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classic/pull/1564

>>110126551
>First time vibecoding a model implementation
Awh that's real cute. Little buddy boy

>>110126328
Why did you prompt for those blocked black pores or whatever that's so gross kek

>>110126083
so far I'd place it in dangerously cheesy category.

>>110126610
it just came out like that :'(

>>110126520
dang gir u fie

anyone here ever kill themselves b4? didn't think so, im gonna be first

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hmm its the dmd lora that makes it plasticky, expected but unfortunate

>>110126705
do my dad?

>>110126691
No but like three different posters have already doxxed themselves ITT

>>110126705
looks like shit desu
i think i will call you dollar store faggot

>>110125565
Doesn't work above 1 MP very well.

>>110126520
can you share with audio. based

>>110126705
no.

how do i make my moss 1girl real bros shes so cute and perfect

>>110126551
Do you think comfy ever propositioned him a role in comfyorg

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>>110126889
concept. working on it.

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>>110126727
thanks, always wanted to have a nickname in the general like all the famous characters we have in here

>>110127017
no

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>>110125816
yes

Moss seems alright for it's parameter count I guess? Still seems like krea2 is better.

Krea2 seems alright for it's parameter count I guess? Still seems like MOSS is better.

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That comfy lora lets me do 10mp in only a minute and 30 seconds when using turbo lora. Really good results from base

>>110127081
fuck, that's so good
what hardware? what workflow?

it's pissing me off, that i can't get it to run on my rig (4080, 12G VRAM, 32G RAM)

>>110127126
>12GB
It was over before it even started

>>110127032
I kind of get the feeling it was trained on pornstars only. Voluptuous sluts with big plastic tits. And fucking poor taste.

slopfag or kinochad. which are ye?

>>110127144
I don't do 3D but for anime it's better than anima already by a long shot

>>110127155
qwenxisters

>>110125565
really nice T2I in my opinion. Clean booba. Not Moss level NSFW-friendly out of the box. Pretty good editing but with a fairly limited resolution range. The 4-step edit tuned version also works for T2I which is nice BTW.

>>110127263
Does it edit better than qwen?

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>>110127144
it's possible to get *relatively ordinary women out of it, but you have to be careful how you word things. "plain looking woman" kept giving me asian makeup models. this was "ordinary looking white woman". how you word things affects it a lot, older lady gives you different results from mature lady, for example.

Chroma still on top?

>>110127342
always assumed chroma was a bottom.

>>110127309
>prompt for white
>generates something from the latina belt
grim

>>110126083
I was gooning to pizza the entire time 4chin was down
it's amazing

Didn't ask Trani

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>>110127395
pizzatime

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>>110127309
>>110127387
unintentional case in point, I had to use "white skin woman" to get something that didn't like vaguely latina. on a related note, "ordinary woman" gave me a negress

can moss do 70's milfs?

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>>110127500
I'll check it out for you Anon

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>>110127440
can I get biden in a durag, hittin a blunt with a donut person

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>>110127522

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>>110127530

It should be illegal for shitty genners to post here goddamm you make good models look so bad

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>>110127530

>>110127566
worst stuff here is somehow still better than top most liked shit on civitai

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>>110127571
thats a heroically fat doink

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>>110127597
Joe ain't no pussy, Jack.

Is it just me or does negpip for moss kinda not work

>>110127638
You don't need it

>>110127638
anon already forgot negative prompts existed.

>>110127674
no

>>110127674
it me

>>110127648
Even with a litany of negatives, some seeds with a real life positive prompt still produce an illustration or 2.5D style. And with negpip enabled it appears to do even worse. I just wanted to know if anyanon has used it yet because I'm not sure if my agent wired it improperly or if the author messed up.

It does apparently give the model prompt weighting as well. Though, I haven't tried it.

>>110125855
How do you even use this?

>>110127701
Are you using turbo lora and/or base?

>>110127708
Base no lora. Sane defaults.

>>110127722
I can't tell what's real or not anymore

>>110127744
Use SFT

>>110127638
It has been working for me from what I could tell, however I see https://github.com/pamparamm/ComfyUI-ppm just got a commit 13 hours ago, so maybe it's worth updooting.

>>110127744
why are you using negpip with base? cfg over 1 enable negative prompts.

>>110127749
only took 3 years.. bout damn time

I can't post videos of this on /g/ but does anybody know how to get tit physics looking decent in Minimax H3? WAN and LTX know how to handle "bouncing realistically" or "Jiggles on impact" but with H3 they just jump around constantly like they're autonomous

>>110127750
I am doubtful that the version of moss trained on a narrower dataset will fix the issue but I'll try.
>>110127754
That looks more to do with weighting but thanks I'll test.
>>110127764
Negpip also makes negative prompts stronger.

>>110127776
It went from I can be fooled by it to there is no way I can prove this is not real

>local diffusion general
>it's a bunch of guys hating local models

>>110127795
>Negpip also makes negative prompts stronger.
you can increase weight on negative prompts as well - by increasing cfg or by (prompt:3) for example.

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>>110127797
such is life on contrarian 4cucks...what can we do uWu

>>110127749
funnily enough my gens often elicit that reaction regardless of model

>>110127823
well, i'm ridin with Biden. That's what i'm doing

>>110127795
Another thing to note is that like Anima, Moss seems to tolerate REALLY high prompt weights before shit starts getting weird, depending on what you weight. Like I was using a huge list of quality tags and giving them -2 weight and it seemed to have a nice effect on the picture. Probably could have turned that up (down, I guess) even more.

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Turbo with comfy high res lora

>>110127857
did comfy only train it on anime? surely not...

>>110127863
I he's going to adjust it, it is heavy anime but I'm making anime with my own anime lora. Works for my usecase

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>>110127832

>>110127744
Try reducing end percent in skip layer guidance node or disable it and add "analog photo" to your prompt.

>>110125435
Nice, but I also now remember the incredibly shitty Red Sonja movie from 2025

AI Red Sonja is our only hope

>>110127823
pretty gud

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What's the best GPU I can buy for a home build for video generation?

>>110127617
ngl pretty aesthetic

>>110127947
RTX PRO 6000 blackwell

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>>110127014
zit

>>110127947
its only about $20k now.. was $6k just last year

>>110128004
I shoulda bought one...

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>>110127933
>>110127979

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>>110127823

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>>110128019

>>110128021
i can see it really works, where can i buy it

>>110127571
>>110127617
Moss base ?

>>110128127
Moss Turbo 8-step

can moss do curbstomping?

>>110126266
cool, catbox please?

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>>110128151

>>110128160
this is what I have so far with zit

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>>110128165

>>110128138
Nice, any chance of prompt for this: >>110127571

Also is it the v0.2 version of the dmd 8-step lora ?

>>110128273
Did you hear about the troon in German that lit himself on fire on a livestream?

>>110128284
is this a setup to a joke

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>>110127270
This was with a specific differently enhanced prompt used for both, like from their actual prompt enhancers. Without that they both do somewhat worse than F3K on this one

>>110128329
no, he just did, that's it. It's in the news.

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>>110128364
wtf this is nuts

>>110128485
>>110128364
no.

You guys ready for the next open weights Flux 3 model to drop this week?

I'm pretty hyped because every time they release new model somebody release something better in the next few days.

>>110128506
>somebody release something better
but FIBO already released

>>110128506
I'm curious how BFL will keep their momentum going, in a way it's admirable because I'd never wanna show my face in this scene again

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>>110128172

>>110128536
They are arrogant

>>110128536
well, it's gonna be too big lol

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>>110128537

>>110128546
it'll also be hot garbage so that's a moot point

>>110128558
That homo is appropriating my hyperstraight culture.

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>>110128562
>>>
> Anonymous 10/21/26(Wed)22:32:10 No.110128543▶
>>>110128536
>They are arrogant

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>>110128579

niggasneed

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"An intimate, natural-light portrait of a serene young woman seated beside a tall timber-framed window in a quiet, sunlit room. She is captured in a close medium shot from the chest up, her shoulders angled slightly away while she turns her head to look directly into the lens with a calm, grounded, and quietly confident expression. She has warm olive skin with visible natural texture, subtle freckles across the bridge of her nose, full lips with a soft rose tint, and deep hazel eyes that catch the crisp morning catchlights. Thick, wavy dark brown hair falls loosely past her shoulders, with a few delicate stray strands illuminated by the sidelight. She wears a relaxed, oatmeal-colored linen button-down shirt with an open collar, the coarse weave of the fabric clearly defined, paired with a delicate hammered-gold pendant resting at her collarbone. Soft, directional morning sunlight filters through sheer ivory curtains to the left, casting gentle, sculptural highlights along her cheekbone and jawline while leaving the far side of her face in warm, luminous shadow. Behind her, an out-of-focus background of muted sage plaster walls and the dark wood edge of an antique bookshelf creates a shallow depth of field. Photographed on medium-format film with an 85mm portrait lens, featuring a warm neutral color palette, gentle film grain, rich tonal gradation, and a quiet, contemplative mood."

>>110128513
neither Fibo or Q2.1 are better than F3K at editing in a lot of cases. No other model can edit at the resolutions F3K can either.

I like Fibo a lot for T2I though, I just wish it had a bit higher res trainer.

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>>110128600
zit doesn't unerstand left to right vs right to left.

>>110128701
kek

>>110128651
Krea 3 wins this one.
MOSS Image Base would probably beat all 5 using any slop tuned model as a refiner at 0.25 denoise.

>>110128670
woops *training

>>110128778
i thought krea 3 was the worst, it's all weirdly reddish

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>>110128701
HE'S TRYING

>>110128651
>no zit.
>no flux 2 dev
*closed*

>>110128651
thats the most slop prompt I've ever read, is full of shit that doesnt belong in image generating

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>>110128815

OK I just tried moss. This might be the Chroma-killer, finally.

>>110128912
1. can it do curb stomping?
2. can it do 70's milfs? (70 yo)
3. can it do a black woman reading a book that's upside-down?
4. can it do swastikas?

>>110128938
1. idk
2. yes
3. idk
4. yes

>>110128886
and yet the results are good. it's a MOSS Enhancer prompt.

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>>110128938
best I can do on short notice

>>110128938
70s and 70yo are two different things idiot

>>110129019
ok cool, try the book thing together with curb stomping lol

in the deep shire, one black hobbit sleeps on the parking lot with his head on the curb. An angry Gandolf the white wearing white army boots leaps to stomp the head of the hobbit. Meanwhile, a fat black woman reads a book upside-down to trisomy black children in a cloud in the upper-right corner.

>>110129047
lmao

>>110129052
to zoomers. people used to never say "years old" unless they were filling out paperwork.

>>110129061
You'd say "in her 70s." If you don't word it like that someone could easily think you mean milfs in the 1970s.

>>110129074
fuckin kids are dumb af these days

>>110128651
Krea3 won't look like this local FOR SURE.

>>110129074
Yeah. If any of the zoomer women get rid of their zits ok good to know

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>>110129048
wut

>>110129074
>someone could easily think you mean milfs in the 1970s.
that's what i thought he was asking.

>>110129074
you're confusing 70's with '70s

which H3 model is superior?

>>110129186
yes

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>>110129124
My GPU is smarter than the ESLs on this website.

>>110129200
>your GPU
lol, lmao

>>110129207
My GPU didn't generate that but this is such a basic question I'm sure a local model could answer this correctly.

>>110129200
^ indian

I 100% guarantee you. He's making an error, but, I promised myself to never teach foreigners English.

>>110129186
max

>>110129241
>API only

is MOSS INT8-convrot worth

>>110129245
he didn't clarify, therefor i am not incorrect

anonny did a le heckin malicious compliance

i am sovl

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My verdict: moss is much like Chroma, but better. It's really impressive. Unlike every other model you people shilled between then and now.

(base, prompt enhancer off, etc. Obviously.)

is MOSS the first true, untouched base model we've got since SDXL?

>>110129445
Speaking of MOSS image, I tried to get it to gen after setup, but it started tokenizing with a runtime of like 7-10 hours. The fuck kinda beast rig you need for that? Is this like, only for the first time or you run it ones?

>>110129466
Turn off the prompt enhancer.

>>110129445
I think it might be a finetune of one of the Flux models since it uses that vae and they thank the Flux team on their model page. But I don't know.

If so, that makes it more like Chroma.

>>110129478
oh ok, ChatGPT didn't mention anything about that when I asked how to bypass tokenshit

>>110129466
这是very odd, I only get around 20-40 seconds added when running both the prompt enhancer AND thinking, while running an RTX 5070ti - what GPU are you using, anon?

>>110129488
start using your brain retard