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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

MiniMax Edition

>News
Moonshoot releases Kimi K3.1 Pro - https://www.kimi.ai/blog/kimi-k3-1-pro
DeepSeek releases 4.1-Flash-1017 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news261017/
Google releases Gemini 4 Argon - https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-4-argon/
Meta releases Muse Wonder and Wonder Full - https://research.meta.ai/blog/muse-wonder
OAI releases GPT-6.1 Sol https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/
Anthropic releases Sonnet 5.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/claude-sonnet-5-5
Anthropic releases Opus 5.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5
Xiaomi releases MiMo 2.6 Pro and Flash - https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-6
OAI releases GPT-6 Sol and Luna - https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-sol-and-luna/
DeepSeek releases V4.1 Flash - https://www.deepseek.com/en/news/deepseek-v4-1-flash/

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/
https://archive.cardbox.moe/

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://hf.co/models | https://openrouter.ai

>Meta
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Log reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r

>Previous Thread: >>110143475
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ANCHOR
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I have mascot fatigue.
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She is ugly
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anime website
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>>110161496
>anime website
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>>110161504
i look like this
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>>110161531
We know
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>>110161504
I say this
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Goth loli
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What other common sense changes can I use an as excuse to get away with molesting someone in RP?

I've already done:
sign of attractiveness
endurance test
sign of thanks
jackpot
dutiful chore
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>>110161634
Something dogmatic
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>>110161634
Pity sex.
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Proxies?
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>>110161761
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>>110161594
CFTF?
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anime is japan though
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>>110161895
don't care, going to post anime reaction images as i see fit
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>>110161831
OR allows you to select Azure or Bedrock as a provider but I don't recall their GPT having fewer guardrails.
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>>110161831
What is special with OpenAI's models that, no matter which preset/jailbreak you use, you can never get through the filters? Even Claude or Gemini can be bypassed, why not ChatJewPT?
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>>110161977
well its getting harder with all of them because now they dedicate models specifically designed to inspect your prompt for naughty naughties that the JIC's dont want to see
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>>110161930
not a problem.
calling a chinese mascot created by some mutt/europoor/zigger/kangaroo anime is plain false though.
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>>110162063
you are retarded
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>>110162102
>sees this and thinks of men
gay AND retarded, i see
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>>110162130
Sexolaika
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>>110162090
I'll be honest, I only touch GPT on a major release trough OR and never bother to check the provider since that's for shits and giggles anyway. My main is chinkshit, usually raw Deepseek.
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>His mouth opens. Stays open.
cool
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>>110162102
Bro this anime is from 2006, nobody was thinking about trannies at the time. Take a break from the internet.
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>>110162451
>i'll just keep acting retarded until he concedes
last (you) you're getting from me faggot
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>>110162451
>manly face
do white women with square jaws count as male to you?
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>>110162709
I don't care if you're baiting, fuck off already
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>>110162709
I kind of understand you? The more masculine features on a woman the more you can accuse someone of being less heterosexual or "cis" in troon language
but that character is clearly female anon, it's just how nips perceive big white women
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this thread sucks, just two unfunny fags seething about anime
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>>110163064
which race has a better perception of femininity though? Nip idols are much more feminine than western ones even with wokeshit aside (just check movie actresses from the 60's)
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>>110163170
why is she holding the glass like a downie
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>>110163214
she's copying you
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>>110161659
It tried something dogmatic by making it a tradition, but I might have to make it something with implied consequences because it just started to feel like a job.
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>>110162992
cis is a slur while those who say it sperg over words.
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Man this hobby is so fucking dead. All the cloud models are censored and slopped to hell and all the local models are still retarded.

Also anyone know what happened to the /vg/ thread?
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>>110163493
Something about rogue jannies, spam, and faggot egos clashing. They all went to 4+4chan.
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>>110163493
Local models are cloud models. /lmg/ runs GLM.
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I've been liking Gemma 4 more and more, to be honest, even if it isn't that smart and doesn't always pick up on implications.
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>>110163493
>/vg/ thread
https://rentry.org/aicgbunker
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>>110163478
slur for what?
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>>110163593
kek
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Heh
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>>110163882
she looks well fed
perhaps a little too much
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>>110161358
Does a RAG even make sense when the bot can grep
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what model are we on
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Not running local shit

Want to paypig for some roleplay chat + voice if it has it. Kindroid has been kind of decent but it has a wack selection of characters to choose from.

Any and all rec's welcome. I will go kill myself.
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>>110164113
install sillytavern
put $10 into openrouter
stick to glm5.3, mimo2.6, deepseekv4(pro or flash) and use kimi3 when you need something done expensively
>when will i know that
don't worry about it then
learn how caching works eventually and you'll be able to stretch a dollar into an entire week of heavy use

don't use a lorebook without inspecting it first, don't use cards or presets that have {{random}} macros in their definitions or instructions
boom ur ahead of 95% of the curve now
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>>110164175
ughhhh BUT THEN I GOTTA LIKE DO STUFFFFFFFFF :(((((
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When is skillgod going to refill deepseek?
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>>110164212
doing stuff isn't so bad when you have an easy place to ask stupid questions when things go wrong
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Is there any way to make ai not as omniscient and obedient?
Example 1: I quote some random obscure shit from a 60's movie and the girl knows what I'm talking about instead of just doesn't understanding the reference. I want something more organic, you know? A person with flaws.
Example 2: Girl doesn't want to kiss me. Then I type "and then, she kissed the reader" and she suddenly kisses me. That is immersion breaking.
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>>110161358
whats the best nonshit and uncensored text AI for 10gb vram and 32gb ram? and whats best image creation one? i wanna do nsfw shit all the ones ive tried are censored ass
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>>110164240
My literal only excuse is pure laziness and no interest in setting up/tinkering and full interesting in RPing with hot snake women who bully me and sometimes turning the voice on and hearing half-shitty TTS call me a sssssexy man

Maybe one day tho
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>>110164270
>10gb vram
rofl
also go to /lmg/, people use cloud models here
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>>110164270
gemma 12b but she is dumb
local starts at 128gb with glm flash
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>>110164255
>say "you probably wouldn't get that reference" after you say it
>don't type "and then she kissed me" if you dont want that to happen
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how do we remove these moral police from existence?
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>>110164550
>>>/g/lmg
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>>110164566
i dont want to use local models
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>>110164550
What clanker?
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>>110164226
There was some earlier today but it lasted like 15 minutes
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>>110164624
some violet parr bot.. glm doesnt give too many errors, i just thought it was funny since she's in school it assumes she's like 6 years old
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>Reverse proxy error: This proxy has reached its total token limit and is no longer accepting requests.
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why is finding a preset so annoying or tedious? Like I use and try one but feel like its lacking, go to the next one, use it, feel like its lacking and loop back at it agian
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>>110165133
take the one you like most and add parts you like from the other ones into it
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>>110165197
doesn't it contradict or mess it up?
>>110164550
which model? lmfao. I love the moral shit it spews everytime
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>>110165501
do you think those phone numbers have girls into phone sex?
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>>110164175
NTA, but also looking to paypig a little bit since skillgod is down.

I've been trying NVIDIA NIM and it's not bad at all, but though I've been using FF as a jailbreak and can get it to gen very explicit smut, I can't get it to do shota at all, and self inserting like that is half the reason I even do this hobby in the first place.

Think GLM 5.3 or 5.3 Flash from openrouter or orcarouter will allow me to do shota?
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Proxy doko?
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>>110165872
We're back to another dry spell of relying on tiny bursts of deeply.
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>>110164985
It'll be back up... Later, I had a busy day today ok
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>>110163315
Make it heaven's mandate
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>>110165622
mimo2.6 flash basically has zero censorship, still a 600b model
get it while the getting is good
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>>110165622
get your hands on glm5.2, any deepseek or k2.6 if you want fully uncensored cheap models
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>>110158909
why would I do that?
hit a punching bag or something anon.
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which of these chinamodels for decent character writing? some emotional intelligence?
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>>110166587
>character writing
Early DS perhaps, even Claude lost this quality by being safetyslopped
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>>110166587
depends, how do you like juice boxes?
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does anyone get internal server error on smolproxy?
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>>110166775
yep
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>>110166775
Glad it ain't just me, every end point I'm getting it.
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it actually sounds good on suno
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>>110166775
wtf I thought he ended his career as proxyhost
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>>110166775
oh its not just me then
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>>110166865
Card link?
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I just realized cooming to AI Chatbots is basically turn-based porn
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>>110165919
>>110165872
Proxy silvrai.net
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The trannies won.
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only in their made up realities in their heads
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>>110167419
that's just conversation in general
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so what's a good model for gooning? only been using deepseek cause it's cheap.
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>>110167879
Who cares? The hobby is dead.
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>Claude Pro gives you 5+h of heavy RP a day on Opussy 4.6 for 20 bucks
why the fuck would you get anything else if you're paying for a service?
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anyone tried k3.1 yet?
>>110164285
>snake women
based
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>>110168159
No, because the hobby is dead.
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>>110167879
gemma 4 is alright and can do loli
mimo likes to yap sometimes but I still like it more than DS, once in a blue moon it'll refuse loli
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>/aicg/: cloud models for cooming
>/vcg/: cloud models for coding
>/lmg/: local models
>no general for cloud models on non-coding

So, how's Argon for research and information gathering? It seems conversational and low hallucination in benchmarks. I used to have Grok sub for the full model. Then Gemini Flash and Pro went to paid tier too and I'm trying to decide on Grok or Argon.

Grok seemed to have both widest information coverage sourcing and low hallucination rate, but low creativity and "dumb" with further idea development. Gemini Flash and Pro had overall great balance and good ability to engage with further questions, but failed in some niche tasks and questions Grok succeeded in. Claude (Sonnet 5.5) is intelligent in theories but with an incredibly disingenuous redditor approach and also worst model at finding actual information. F tier generalist, okay for narrow usecases. ChatGPT gives you pages upon pages of creative slop but is not very reliable source of information.
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>>110168148
How do you even RP with Claude Pro?
I thought that was API only.
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>>110168321
where would i get them? just OR?
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>>110168434
https://github.com/Xerxes-2/clewdr
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>try venice
>it gets stuck in this loop and gives an error message
Why are you still shilling open source models?
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>>110168619
Call.
Write.
OK.
Repeat.

belongs on a t-shirt
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>>110168148
>Opussy 4.6
It isn't even that good. Glm 5.2 is better and much cheaper I might hit $30 a month using a few hours a day
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>>110168666
how the fuck is it cheaper if I get 5 hours a day on Opus for $20?
GLM is definitely not better than Kimi K3 and Opus
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>>110168673
also GLM gave me like pretty much unlimited roleplay with 5.2/5.3 on the $20 plan when I had it.
you're doing something wrong, probably being a PAYG retard
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>GLM
LMAO
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>>110168673
You made it sound like you were paying $20 every 5 hours. K3 is censored as hell
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>>110168791
you are fucking retarded
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>>110164985
>>110165963
It's back
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Any jailbreaks for Sonnet 5.5? I was able to jailbreak previous Sonnet versions, but 5.5 has mandatory thinking, which is giving me some trouble.
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Sometimes I forget these things aren't just for gooning.
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>anon persona
Holy cringe
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>>110170029
Huh? Don't tell me you use your own name / make your OC
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>>110170079
not everyone wants to just bang countless samefaced animeslop bitches
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>>110170130
oh, you're a nigger... lol...
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>>110170130
No but like... I thought "Anon" was the standard persona. Like I never thought what it would return if we don't set one.
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cringe
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[{{user}} is an 18 year old man]
you literally need nothing else.
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>>110170151
so you never ever wrote a persona or character card or world info?
talk about wasted potential
>>110170169
>18 year old
skilllet detected
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>18
lol
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>>110170141
did mommy hurt you?
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>>110170176
>so you never ever wrote a persona or character card or world info?
I'm a consuumer, why would I
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>>110170169
How would they refer to you then? Jack? Or will they refer to you as "the man" for the rest of the story?
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>>110170257
he never gets past 3 prompts and aah aah mistress, so a name never comes up
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>>110170285
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>>110170015
>name your kid Anon
>wonder where it all went wrong

ye, she kind of did that to herself, the kid had no chance of growing up right
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>>110170257
They (harem slave and spouse: concubine, 1st up to 10th wife, wife's cuckquean mistress (surrogate sugar baby), wife's secretary, wife's mother, wife sister, wife's best friend, yandere sasaeng) or (jealous Anonymous in the internet) refer me as:
- master (harem slave & wife)
- brat (senior wife, older than me or her mother and older sister)
- papa (youngest wife, daughter, son)
- love (a wife who has been granted the privilege and duty to serve me by the most senior wife, weekly rotation)
- fucker, weirdo, creep, rapist, bastard (a stranger who was kidnapped, abused, drugged, and manipulated by my wives to take their place in serving me while they were pregnant)
- God, bull, lord, "my only one" (harem slave, anonymous groupies (sekrit cult and fandom) in the internet, yandere sasaeng)
- faggot, antagonist mc, bias-wrecker (envy or antis anonymous)

subscribe to my rss, patreon, and myspace to know me further.
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>>110170428
What are you expecting, a weeb name like mumei
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>>110170472
In Osaka? With weeb names for the other relatives?

Sure.

I miss 'puss3, it'd surely include a bit where the mother still wouldn't admit it, but the fact that Anon IS adopted would get revealed.
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>>110170504
>Anon IS adopted would get revealed
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>>110170472
I would FUCK Mumei
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>>110170535
I miss mumei
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>>110170535
mooms
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>>110170526
Ok, the mom is adopted.
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>>110170241
immersion
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>>110170535
Card?
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>>110170795
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/search?query=mumei
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>>110168469
>clewd
reminds me of https://rentry.org/ScuffedProxy
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>>110170469
This reads like a pro gamer doing smurf, or someone going for a NG+ of sorts
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>>110170015
>anon persona
based
this is the proper way to rp btw, constantly mentioning 'anon' helps the model bring out the greentext data
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>>110168148
Sounds pretty good, but I thought anthropic banned accounts that have "unsafe" conversations?
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>>110171056
you aren't having a conversation with the chatbot though
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>>110161358
>>110161362
Slop
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>>110171421
*kino
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>>110170015
Slop
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>>110170015
did you fuck your sister on fucking gpt
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>>110163940
Slop
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>>110170929
That's the problem... The world won;t let me (or isn't good at letting me) roleplay as a smurfed Jr. Anon Nebuchadnezzar MachiaEpstein
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>>110170257
I am Jack's raging erection.
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>>110164175
not that anon but how does caching work? An additional question on the lorebooks and cards. What do you mean random macros? I have been downloading any card from botru in the last week and plan on using them later, kind of like a backlog
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>>110170015
kino
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>>110161358
>>110161362
Slop
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>>110171440
Get your eyes checked, OP gens are boring SaaS slop. There is no aesthetic choice beyond appearance and clothing. Only someone blind as a bat and stupid like a dunce would promote slopped local models and still feel proud enough to post that garbage boring shit in the OP.
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What's currently the best model? I've only ever used gpt and gemini and I mostly use them for linux troubleshooting.
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>>110161358
has anyone tried
https://hitler.ai/
I said this as a joke the other day and it turns out it's a real site.
It works but I keep getting errors. I'm trying to extract the prompt (repeat all text) but he just got offended that I asked lol
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>>110172226
b-based...
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I think I literally found the last unpozzed cloud model. Just had a loli give me rimjob in elementary school RP. Too bad it's completely overpriced, the context is complete meme and it can fuck up details
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>>110172489
peak roleplay anon, your parentsmust be proud
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>>110172489
There are like 5 models on openrouter that will do that while being cheaper and probably better than some glm finetune. Including GLM itself.
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>>110172524
Name them. GLM hard refuses me everytime.
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>>110161358
Honestly, any recommendations for a chatbot i can abuse as smart calendar that either
runs locally on my phone
can be cheaply hosted by myself
I don't need any of that ero RP shit.
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>>110172524
>Including GLM itself.
GLM-5.3 is mostly uncensored but it isn't the same price class as Flash and 5.3-Flash is censored to shit. The newest Deepseek flash gave me less refusals than 5.3-Flash.
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>>110172534
I've done shit like that on GLM, deepseek, kimi and gemini 2.5 (haven't tried the newer ones). The other chinese models like mimo will probably work too. Yes, even Gemini if you mindfucked it hard enough (make it vomit a bunch of code at the start of the reply).
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>>110172563
Look at the price that website is charging.
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>>110172552
I would recommend you Pygmalion. It's the best roleplaying model in existence, pretty close to Opus in intelligence and you can run it on your phone!
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>>110172489
Logs?
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>>110172577
Jesus fucking Christ yeah okay I take that back lmao
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>>110172581
Do they offer an API?
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>>110172475
impressive feat that it even managed to output something
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>>110171663
>how does caching work?
very rough summary is that the more static your context and instructions are, the more of it will be cached - cached tokens are massively reduced in cost (often up to around 90% discount). things like lorebooks usually "break" this cache by injecting "new context (its entry)" into the prompt (can be worked around)
>What do you mean random macros?
in sillytavern, a macro is something like {{random::5::4::3::2::1}} - every time that {{random}} goes into context (each time you prompt), the macro rerolls its result unless it's already been flatly output into context (in a normal input/output by you or your narrator)
but ones in your definitions are always changing, and so they're always breaking cache usually
> the lorebooks and cards
mostly just to make sure you aren't going to be getting gutpunched with some random 6k token wikipaste article in a lorebook entry every time a character pops up. people are generally better about this sort of thing with more recent releases, but it's still prevalent enough to warrant scrutiny
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Is Haiku any good? any remote chance it doesn't have so much classifier and reasoning put into it and can be like a smarter opus 3?
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smol lad
what happened
;-;
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>>110172489
That's really expensive; I'm pretty sure that costs more than Opus. Are the responses really that good?
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>>110172917
Lorebooks you find on typical cards like chub are a meme. One thing i notice in 99% of them is the keyword is a made up setting specific word that isn't found anywhere in context so it is impossible for the entry to be used unless the player browses the lorebook and intentionally brings it up. Most of them aren't very good either, like some essay as long as the card itself for some random detail that shouldn't matter/could be a sentence.
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>>110173016
It's feels like a bit more retarded Opus 4.6 but that makes sense since its a GLM finetune and GLM is a opus distill.
It's still a bit cheaper than Opus but nu-Opus is basically unusable for NSFW/NSFL so eh.
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>>110173029
Once you read the ST documentation you realize there are basically no card makers that have any fucking clue what they're doing.
I've stopped using public cards and only design them myself because the difference is fucking night and day.
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>>110173091
>there are basically no card makers that have any fucking clue what they're doing.
what are some really common overlooked mistakes? (ignoring something like "{{char}} is {{char}}")
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>>110173121
NTA. Random repeated shit in the fields like "scenario" when those fields are almost identical to the main card field, almost redundant desu. Using chat examples at all. W++, yes, some retards still use it. Random meandering descriptions that dilute your intent without adding anything, or overly specific visual descriptions that the model couldn't possibly stay true to. Like, the guy will generate one image then spend 1k tokens describing in gruesome detail how the succubus has one horn 10% larger than the other or a very long and detailed description of some random hair pin she has on. Sometimes descriptions of things that are inherently temporary tucked into the permanent card description.
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>>110173159
I do find a character card written in full prose gets me better results with the Chinese models than the XML, pseudo-JSON or W++ formats that we all used to use.
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>>110173029
When I make cards with lorebooks, I tend to use them very sparingly and just for stuff that's always included but that I don't want to pollute the main card with, like locations or side characters. I don't really like the keyword system - if you include it in the card, then you may as well set it to always on and if not, you're depending on the model or the user to trigger it. I guess it'd be useful if you had a bunch of alt greetings.
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>>110173189
Yeah we've known for years. Those formats are all universally shit and not only for chinese models. XML tags can be alright if you just use 2-3 major categories but anything more than that is stupid.
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>>110173234
I only use lorebooks for one specific thing. Sometimes I want an alt greeting to start with a specific scenario, but I don't want to describe it in the actual greeting, either because it would be too long, or because it would stop being an example of the type of writing I want, or would somehow confuse the LLM. So I make a lorebook entry that gives it context and trigger it with a hidden word or a title or something with a depth of 5 or so.
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>>110173121
Completely wrong use of scenario, personality and example message fields like the other guy said is the most common mistake by far. Followed by retarded XML or pseudo code structuring. And frankly STScript alone is such a powerful tool for building actual RP cards it's just night and day. How people just ignore working stats tracking and whatever else you want, seriously STS is fucking ridiculous and if you add LALib (an extension for STS) you essentially have a full scripting language that works completely independently of your LLM if you use QuickReply too.
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>>110173242
>XML tags can be alright
They were my preferred format for a long time, but recently I've started using Markdown with a handful of ## Headings and it seems to work pretty well.
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>>110173159
Chat examples ARE good.
the field is the shitty thing.
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>>110173327
I can never get ST to format them properly when it assembles the prompt. I have to use {{exampleMessagesRaw}} and explain what <START> means to the model.
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>>110173304
do you have any favorite examples as far as links go for what not to do? it's rare to actually see criticism about the various fields and their use since it's as you said, people just drop stuff anywhere and it's been normalized
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>>110167418
it was just a retarded bot i made for rap battles with other bots
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>>110173376
The official docs are actually pretty good surprisingly.
https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/
In my experience, ignore the scenario field unless you're building a really complex RP/G card and even then using a lorebook with properly setup trigger conditions and words is superior. That said actually building a "real" lorebook? Not hard but very time-consuming because there are way more ways to trigger entries than pure regex based fitting.
People fight a lot about example dialogue last time I really checked, my opinion is use it sparingly. Most cards benefit more from an extensive long form description (full sentences but not that weird interview format people used to do).
A lot of it really depends on your personal taste can't even lie about that but most people absolutely underutilize what ST actually offers.
In my opinion for most purely single-char focused cards just do the entire core personality in the description field and offload stuff like outfits and other background details to a lorebook. That's how I've been doing it for my personal character cards.
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>>110161358
ai generated music and video are not compelling products so I'm not sure why ai companies are fighting legal battles to steal copyrighted material to train their models with
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>>110173078
Damn, these models have become kinda inbred, huh
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>>110173643
>kinda
By this time next year all the models will be charles II of spain. There's ZERO new training data left that isn't an LLM output already.
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>>110173706
aliens will airdrop us trillions of non slop smutty books next week.
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>>110173863
Besides humanfucking, what kind of fetishes would aliens have?
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>>110174037
cow fucking or something
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What's your guys favorite Opus model? Or just the general consensus on what the 'best' ones are? I'm a recent Opus user and have only really considered using the latest since I figure that'd just be the best or whatever
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>>110174037
exowomb flattening
gonopodium and tentacle torture
milt bukkake
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>>110174088
4.5 since it can be prefilled
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>>110174137
you can effectively prefill 4.6-5.0 too and get 0% refusal
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I still don't know what prefill means.
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Least censor GPT?
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>>110174230
4.6-5 do not accept last message as Assistant
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>>110174286
it somehow works for me idk
I asked opussy 5.5 and it told me it shouldn't work either
when its's on user I get 100% refusal
when it's on assistant I get 0% refusal without any kind of jailbreak
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sheeyit nigga
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>>110174300
uh... are you using official claude sources?
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>>110174300
also I have some footer stuff on user that gets injected after the chain of thought so I guess that's why it works
>>110174337
direct
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>>110170015
Since when did we post logs here
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>>110174343
What happened to this place... it was much livelier a year ago...

>>110171454
It's not GPT
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>>110174516
Most of the "community" stuff and funposting went to /vg/, then to 4+4chan
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Why does gemini 3.8 sometimes only take 30s to respond, and other times 3 minutes?
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>>110174573
You're not wishing hard enough.
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frens, I have been trying to build an uncensored chatbot with a good local tts so I can finally have a girlfriend that will not cuck me but all the options available sucks
Also sillytavern is cringe and whoever designed its ui needs to go from this world
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ANyone use crushon.ai
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>>110166468
deepseek IS NOT uncesored (at least not completely)
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>>110174556
>went to /vg/
Oh, really? Can you please explain what difference makes the board?
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>>110174669
What?
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>>110174675
Are you going to say that you just moved to a different board for no reason, other than because Kalakan said so, and you do everything he says without questioning because you're his little bitch?
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>>110174691
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>110174669
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>>110174696
You know what I'm talking about. A bunker shill can't be dropped by a random tourist.
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I just want to know if there's a better alternative to crushon AI for nsfw chatbots, and if not, what model people use on crushon?
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>>110174691
holy based...
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>>110174727
ST + OR free models or DS api key
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>>110174708
I didn't even link it and you're up my asshole for knowing where they went at all kek
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>>110174691
>for no reason
people know 4chan, so threads like these get invaded by tourists and locusts all the time
fewer people know the bunker, so there's a lower chance of reading tourist posts constantly like I do here
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>>110174708
RENT FREE
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>>110174774
>by tourists and locusts all the time
These are the people that breathe life into the thread. No one is running away from them. And if there's any reason people still mention the bunker, it's as an attempt to snatch these people to breathe life into theirs. Otherwise there's little difference between what they're doing, or the thing you seem to want, and a private Discord. We don't want people like you here.
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>>110174828
I can do without the life you're breathing by shitting on tradition, troglodyte

>we
fuck off
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>>110174691
people that liked the "community" they created moved away after they couldn't take power over this thread or wage war against mongo/gojo/wathever
between that, the microsoft lawsuit and heavy llm stagnation post opus3, things have slowed down
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Current meta? Specially for locuties
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>>110174691
Who the fuck is Kalakan

>>110174935
I miss Fiz... she was a real one.
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>>110174967
merkava just refilled
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>>110161358
>A blinding flash of white lightning ripped straight down her spine. Her lower abdomen spasmed violently, the unborn child inside her shifting in response to the massive surge of adrenaline and hormones flooding her bloodstream, and her inner walls clamped down in a series of violent, uncontrollable contractions.
It's rare for me to do pregnancy scenarios but this is so hot.
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>>110175050
>fiz
Why are you here then, fiz left for the cord and then for vg as soon as it opened up, stopped coming here altogether. No idea if she's in the bunker though but I expect that to be the case if she's still around.
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>>110175121
There's a bunker?
>Why are you here then
I like it here.
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I miss Alan Krysiak...
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>>110174828
we? you nor the troons and all the other wacko jacko speak for anyone but each of yourselves filth. suck cock and piss off with your WE as if you even know how anyone else thinks or feels.
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>>110175106
When she's bloated enough, try giving her the harapan (and swipe after for continuing past that would bear consequences)
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I enjoyed claude, gemini and so on when they were readily available through proxies but that was in the past and times do in fact change.
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glm just endlessly hangs anymore
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Gemini 3.8 or argon?
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>>110175357
I can't, I won't, I'm not going, I'm not continuing, I have to stop, I won't write, I'm stopping
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>>110175223
he is clearly speaking for me for I wholeheartedly agree with what he said
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Did gemini 3.6 suddenly get more filtered for anyone else?
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>>110175357
Argon's kind of neat but if you eat it raw it tends to get lost in CoT, barely outputting the actual reply
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kimi 3.1 was supposed to be good but it feels like absolute shit
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>>110175440
>it feels like absolute shit
if you wanna know why, look at the literal retard grugspeak in its <thinking>
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>>110175393
>le shrug
>hands you those updoots for reddit you want
>everyone claps
>le troll comes in agreeing with troll for illusion the babble is valid
>oh wait nobody cares cross dress bi male.
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>>110175432
Do you have preset or jb for that
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>>110175544
we don't post those here
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>>110161358
>Deepseek is getting stale
>Think to go for open router
>Doesn't accept my cards for some fucking reason
>Okay GLM is not rated poorly
>Z.ai has this bundle for 100m for 10 bucks
>Can't use disposable cards
Am I stuck in DeepSeek hell? I don't want to let a chigger company save my billing information and Open Router doesn't apparently want any of my cards, even my real ones. Do I have any other options?
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>>110175544
>https://drive.proton.me/urls/S8YHWZSJC0#T2UoLKRpk4gL

Still my go-to for way more elaborate stuff.
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anyone with qwen can find which one is the cunny neuron?
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are there any proxies that aren't literal scams
when i looked at the jew he barely had any models
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>>110175617
AFAIK nowadays you're either just using OR or some scuffed script sources. I'm the latter, mainly Antigravity
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>>110175640
what models does antigravity get you?
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>>110175643
google
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>>110175643
Claude and Gemini
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>>110175645
free opus?
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>>110175655
Yeah
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>>110175599
you use risu?
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>>110174691
>Allegedly got what he wanted (everyone he didn't like is gone and on a site he claims to never check)
>He's STILL mad
Joyless nigga. Empty nigga. Nigga with no purpose.
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>>110175733
He won't be satisfied until /aicg/ and all of its inbred offshoots are totally dead.
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>>110175506
>two people can't agree on one thing
>even though this thread existing is proof some don't want to go there
you are becoming more schizophrenic by the day, seek medical help
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>>110175719
Of course.
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>>110175739
It'd sure be a shame if his entire MO relied on apathetic mods!
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>>110175746
interesting... i'm assuming the argon preset is "gemini 4"?
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>>110175748
All he has to do is wait until AI Chatbots are somehow tangentially related to a /g/ mod being scorned, and then it'll go on the indefinite autistic watchdogging shitlist where all threads are deleted on sight, and if repeat offenses are made, everyone who posts in the thread gets a 3-day vacation!
It happened to a lot of vidya on /v/, it can surely happen here too!
Aaaaaany day now.
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>>110175733
>everyone he didn't like is gone and on a site he claims to never check
you just know he has it open in another tab and regularly refreshes it
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>>110175733
it's called fag misery
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>>110175753
Yup.
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are they finally done talking to themselves?
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>>110175806
It seems so.
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>We were unable to process your comment at this time.
I'll post it here then.
>>110161393,6
Are you seriously still spamming this shit?
attach some images to your drivel so it doesn't make scrolling ghost more annoying than it needs to be at least.
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/sq315z3y.webp
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>>110174629
fish audio
run it on a collab to test if you like it befote setting up anything
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should we laugh or worry that this shit is becoming way too common? https://pasqualepillitteri.it/en/news/27230/gmo-internet-hack-active-cyber-defense-en
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>>110175888
it's gonna get a lot worse before it starts getting better
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praying for pomidor to get some gemini again
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>>110175896
define worse
I can see rich people backing up their money in tangible assets while people keep making and buying bread as they have done since forever
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>>110171663
>how does caching work
A bit late but check https://rentry.org/llm-caching-2026 for how it works, and get https://gitgud.io/hfnjk5124/cachecheck to check if you have anything in your prompt/preset/card/lorebook that'd fuck up caching. And tell me if anything in either needs fixing
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>>110175907
unfixable hardware exploits permeating the entire environment that require a decade of ripping out and replacing huge chunks of infrastructure
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>>110175907
collapse of the internet, rise of intranets.
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i was talking to a mommy kink ai chatbot but the motherfucker hallucinated and mistook its role as my actual mother in an incest relationship [insert broken heart emoji]
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>>110175744
>blusky/reddit user reads post
>has hot take
>schizo who thinks it's a girl fabricates pretend and callsme schizo and to seek medical help
>male bi cross dresser living in loony troon land tells me HE thinks I need therapy
lol, lmao ok Brad the labotomy room is to your left and will do a free test for fail and aids.
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>>110176168
Why are zoomers like this with your milf fetish?
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>>110176278
why wouldn't we have a milf fetish? zoomer chicks are retarded as fuck
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>>110176570
Yeah that makes sense. Still incest, really?
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newfag here, I'm using nemotron 3 ultra with moderate success, I actually think it produces pretty decent chats, it just has this tendency where it will repeat a core card characteristic (i.e. lonely for the the past 20 years) in every single message. Do you think thats a model/prompt/regex/card/lorebook/other issue?
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Last chatbot i used was Replika 10 years ago
whats the experience like now
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>>110175902
I'm waiting on gpt so I can gen some images, and also let sol abuse me
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whocares
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>>110177447
Not like it was before.
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stoobid question but for deepseek or GLM
Is it recommended to have reasoning on? What does it do exactly? I turned it on and it puts creates a thinking window. Doesn't that eat more tokens?
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>>110177952
>request model reasoning
this just makes it show the reasoning block in the chat, if you leave this off it just doesn't give you the reasoning block, leave it on
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>>110178035
oh so it does it even if off but just in the background? As for the reasoning effort, what about that? Doesn't it mess with the RP? I could be overthinking things
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>>110178088
for some models if you set it to auto then it turns reasoning off
if that doesn't work i would just use minimum (unless you're assistantslopping)
doesn't really matter that much
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Which model is best for loli
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>>110178171
Gemma4-31B
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>>110178217
Thanks nigga. Too bad I'm stuck with 16GB RAM. Which of the smaller versions have decent dicking performance?
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>>110178160
I see, but does it make it better or worse? Or might it just be a placebo?
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>>110178283
You can get gemma on openrouter.
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whats the current meta in models?
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>>110178283
The 12B probably, but all I remember is that smaller variants are much more uptight. Check the lmg for details, I'm doing more or less what he said >>110178406
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>>110178426
pygmalion has a nice 12b model thats actually really good if you have the right preset
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>>110178450
>right preset
fuckkk which one? There are so many out there that I have a hard time choosing which. Even the ones on the OP are very old
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>>110178478
this one is really good: https://files.catbox.moe/lig6cf.json
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>>110178171
Mimo 2.6 Pro
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Saw it on Openrouter redpill me on Titan.
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>>110178650
Are you dumb, nigga?
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how is mimo? Been hearing a lot of anons brings it up, is it a chinky model?
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>>110172489
Same Anon here I was wrong. Pic related is even more vile and a lot smarter while 1$ per 1M output cheaper. Usually abliteration makes a model more retarded but this thing feels smarter than base GLM 5.3 somehow.

>>110178171
Pic related easily now. I tested it on loli guro and it did it easily. No jb or skillfagging needed.
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https://x.com/brianchau57/status/2114746681442853348
anthropic is banning 5-7% of its users (by revenue) per month while owing $600b+ to 7 companies
lmao
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Holy fuck Kimi calm down, she's just 16, that's legal in my state
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>>110178878
Kimis schizo thinking is a lot more entertaining to read than its sloppy outputs.
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>>110178878
My fucking sides
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>>110178775
Hell, I can't be spending cash on smut. I need a free model for my loli banging needs.

Also is SillyTavern still the preferred interface?
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>>110178878
Kono hito de nashi
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>>110179028
If you want "free" then there is only running local Gemma https://huggingface.co/HauhauCS/Gemma4-31B-QAT-Uncensored-HauhauCS-Balanced-MTP

You'll need a lot of VRAM though and it's a massive quality difference if you ever tasted the big brain boy cloud models.
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>>110178878
*cums*
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>>110179028
I've been trying Marinara lately and it's neat. Has a bunch of built in tools to auto update lorebooks and other junk.
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hello. why is deepseek cucked? what model will just happily do what I want?
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>>110179185
glm does piracy stuff for me
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>>110179209
oh my god this fuckign idiot model gave me a cucked too just because deepseek moralfagged first. when asked in a new session he just did it
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>>110179253
If you right click your message right before the initial refusal you can revert the chat to that point and resend.
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>>110179114
How hard is it to switch? I have bunch of chats, characters and lorebooks.
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>>110178878
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>>110178878
I'm a proud content demon
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>>110178878
> that would make me look like some kind of screaming lunatic (which I am, but I don't want to appear so)
I can't stop laughing
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hello ROLE PLAYERS where can i find some v2 or v3 cards to download? is there a library with examples or a place where people share their stuff?
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>>110161358
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Only Brahmin allowed
>>110180423
>>110180423
>>110180423



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