>mfw the AI bubble hasn't popped yet
> Quarterly reports strong and stronger> Hardware sold out until like 2030> Adoption increasing> Some retard: Um acshually it's a bubble because these two companies that are not on the stock market are operating at a theoretical loss based on the math I pulled out of my ass where I equate the few cents of electricty they use against all their expenditure in hardware and R&DEven permabear Burry was wrong publicly, then closed down his fund, but still insists it's a bubble, lmao.
>>110161837>muh emotions are worthy of a new threadgo back to plebbit faggot
There is no bubble.
>>110161872Then there is no hope
Say it with me:3 years going now1. There is no bubble.2. There is burst.3. There is no popAgain:1. There is no bubble.2. There is no burst.3. There is no pop.Period.>>110161880Tell me about your life and what you want to achieve.
Even if it pops, this technology is not going anywhere. It is just far too useful in programming. At best, maybe society comes into agreement that it shouldn't be used for generating artwork
>>110161837AI jeets didn't like this post
Two more months.
>>110161896You are stretching it beyond thin there man. These kids are attached to their ability to prompt up art. They're not giving it up.
>>110161896> society comes into agreement that it shouldn't be used for generating artworkLmao
>>110161837say it with me>There's no going back
You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube
>>110161837this shit could take 6-18 months depending on how Anthropic's IPO goes. if the stock market somehow goes into an even more insane mania than it has for the past 6 years, it'll be the latter.there is absolutely no way for Anthropic to get out of the 400 billion hole it's in and OpenAI is probaby even more fucked.>>110161862>Quarterly reports strong and strongersure hope they at least pay you more for working on a sunday, like 3 rupees per post instead of the usual 2
how do you put a dollar sign amount of value to this shit? i mean seriously come the fuck on.
>>110161938> If you state factual data you're a paid indian shillMust be hard being retarded
>>110161909almost like there's an oil shortage
>>110161938>big tech is paying to shill AI to ~1 thousand 4chan usersluddite IQ on display
>>110161967This. People are insane enough here that they will false flag as shills for companies. Identity fusion and brand loyalty / superfans are all things. People seriously "stan" over these models. There are insane people out there who would strap a bomb to their chest and detonate themselves for ChatGPT or Claude or Gemini. They are fucking nuts.
>>110161837Give it 2 more yearsThat said, I think it's hilarious and a true showcase of how much they really do control the world that they can pull this off.
why can't trannies come out and admit they lost? it would be so much easier for everyone
>>110161862Better hope it's solid. We're about to see if the tech industry can survive everyone outside their sector that buys their services shitting the bed due to demand destruction in the petroleum industry due to... whatever then fuck you call the last 60 days have been. I guess one silver lining for the datacenters will be capital flooding into LNG, renewables, etc.
>>110162022Opus has been really good only for like a month. It's not perfect but the previous ones were real slop cannons in comparison.
>>110162142>I guess one silver lining for the datacenters will be capital flooding into LNG, renewables, etc.Ha, I fucking wish, I'm bleeding out on this nu-nuclear shit despite Trump's military program into triso & such
>>110161837Dont worry it will pop and the gay AI using snailcats shall cry
>>110162195Every quant says it's minimum another 30 days over $90/bbl before the Big Boys start reallocating capital, and some say it's even another 120, so it could still turn around.
>>110162241I'm probably gonna be bagholding until 2035 at this rate
>>110161896
repeat with me, TWO *claps* MORE *claps* WEEKS
I think one of my lecturers mentioned recently that>AI is a computer program>If AI could program, it could be made to improve itself>Thus, the AI industry would have achieved singularityBut this has not happened, so maybe there are some problems.
Any day now the people are going to rise up and overthrow global capitalism, Dario Amodai and Sam Altman will be hanged, and REAL artists are finally going to get the compensation they deserve.
>>110162428> 2026> Still hasn't learned the bitter lessonGo read
>>110162428> get brain cancer> "if this was going to kill me it would have done it by now"But this has not happened, so maybe I'm cancer is a lie.
>>110162448I have heard about it. It basically says that general approaches win, when general computation performance scales with Moore's law. Not sure how this is relevant. Are you saying, that we will get better hw soon (TM)? And that AI scaling will not hit a wall?
>>110162283literally>some ordinary gamerask the financebois insteadthis shit trades like cryptosomeone pull up derivatives, im not financial enough for these
>>110162617I'm not sure how that's relevant either, what are you even trying to say? Also you know Moore's law isn't really a law right? It's a backwards looking trendline, but still, not sure why you're even bringing it up.
>>110161837Don't worry if the AI bubble doesn't pop then the economy will collapse under it either way due to a bunch of other issues, we're too deep into this shit to come out unscathed.
>>110162694define "we"
>>110162283>just keeps poppinggets me every time
>>110162699They're an export economy remember? If demand for their shit lowers due to a recession they feel it hard too.
>>110162662The bond yields on their debt are high but realize that the financial markets are based on supply and demand just like other markets. Firms are competing for investment dollars against all other possible investments. This is just as easily a sign that investors want to park their money elsewhere, think that other opportunities give more reward for less risk, it's not a sign of any intrinsic bubble popping. Even US bond rates are going up right now. And every tick of that stock price chart is a buy\sell event (and note those are the same event) that a human ultimately chose to make, it also contains no new information about risk or expresses anything about intrinsic value.
>mfw the internet bubble hasn't popped yet>mfw the cryptocurrency bubble hasn't popped yet
>>110162760the internet bubble did pop though
>>110162760crypto bubble did pop though lol/biz/ has been dead for like 3 yrs
>>110161912>society comes into agreement about anything lmao
>>110162722>This is just as easily a sign that investors want to park their money elsewhere, think that other opportunities give more reward for less risk, it's not a sign of any intrinsic bubble poppingproblem is:ai-bros are 100% reliant on gibbesthey NEED investor money to keep the lights onthey generate no profit>Even US bond rates are going up right now. And every tick of that stock price chart is a buy\sell event (and note those are the same event) that a human ultimately chose to make, it also contains no new information about risk or expresses anything about intrinsic value.thats very uninformed, anonthe price at which a fin. product sells is literally the direct expression of the boughterer's risk tolerance vs discount on future valueand if theres no buyer, the sellers discount their shit. its price discovery, no? (except when youre the gov and you can just promise more returns- but things boil down to the same... moar retoorn for a given price)
>>110163046>generate no profitWho cares? AI companies the start of a post-profit economy, they're like a public utility. Necessary for the function of modern civilization. It is absolutely correct to use any resources required to keep them in operation, financial or natural.
>>110163072>Who cares? AI companies the start of a post-profit economyinvestors carei want my fukken retoornsill go get them from the depths of your rectum if i have toand the slop is, well, of low quality so to speakeven the institutionals say its iffyi heard even people whi insure ngreedia's results are becoming quite carefulfkn bluhmberg is posting ed zitronshits kinda wonky, for the ai-bros its undeniableeven the normies are talking about it
>>110163130you may as well be asking why the manhattan project didn't turn a profit. if you thought of your investment as a financial investment for yourself rather than an investment in the future of humanity, you bet on the wrong horse.
>>110163148nice words arent an acceptable means of payment, anonunless theres a place where they areand then im moving over immediatelyjust imagine...you pay your taxes by writing a congratulatory letter with extra flourish, because its the taxman after allwho wouldnt like that?
>>110163179i can even throw in a couple drawings in the margins to express the full extent of my gratitudethats worth a retoorn no?god i love retoorns. i couldnt live without em, quite literally
>>110163179cope, I'm right. we appreciate your contribution to mankind's progress but you are not getting your money back
>>110162617]> Didn't understand the bitter lessonThe singularity is all hardware and has fuckall to do with producing software improvements
>>110163205i didnt invest in your pyramid scam thoughcrypto is a much better deal.if youre smart enough you can actually end up with cash in your handits not my first venture eitheri must have jewish blood bc im good with moneyid fukken sell potatoes and id make a profit
>>110163046>and if theres no buyer, the sellers discount their shit. its price discovery, no?That's exactly what I just said you simple little man. They are raising rates they're offering so pull in more subscribers for their bond, in equities they move their offers down in price to attract new buyers. But there is no correct price to be discovered, it's all just trades, things like time discount are measured values based on those trades, they don't exist in a vacuum.Your sin today has been reification, you need to go study an orderbook to atone. It's okay, it's a common sin, academic literature does it all the time and they should know better, you're just a 4channer so it can be forgiven.
>>110163205>>110163226actuallyif you exit ngreedia now you'd end up with hard moneycrypto is more volatile thoughyour next post will show if youre a normie at heart
>>110161837It won't pop because it's backed by a literal sect.
>>110161837>Cryptoshit>AIshitwhat's the next pile of shit that will jack up the price of computing hardware?
>>110163244>But there is no correct price to be discoveredyoure teaching a father how to make childreni never said theres a "correct" priceonly the effective pricebut its still the expression of the meaningful investors' risk tolerance, basicallyif were talking hard numbers, the market is not rationalits all about perception.newton already said so, and everyone smart then rediscovers it, then reformulates it in their own words (unless they heard the lesson, and accepted it)
in my internal monolog i just realized im a maffboi at heartfkn hell just wait til a maidposter appears out of nowhere and tells me to wear the tutunoi wont fukken wear the tutuim proud of being the exact opposite of your regular mathfagwhile still having the brain hurspurs to deal with advanced math problems
Bubble confirmed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6PBpP3xtwI
>>110161837Pops by February-March 2028 when biggest tranche of neocloud loans will make those pyramid schemes insolvent. The time between first raised rates and the dot com popping took 9 months I believe this time it will take longer on account of american decisionmakers being more cautious with rates and substantially more corrupt.
>>110163329>taking the word for it from the biggest LARPer for the centoryyou do realize that faggot is 55 and tweets like he is 15
>>110163355>attacks the person, not the wordlol. religion.>>110163329turbololelon musk dunking on the actual poorstheyre 100B+ in the redtheyre actually poorer than any of us
>>110163329>>110163495 contits also kinda fucking cope bc hes basically saying>were not junkbonds because we can collateralize spaceXthat kinda sucks
>>110163355> richest autist in the world with multiple innovative succesful companies is a larperDo you get your thoughts from Reddit or China?
>>110163572byd is eating up his tesla marketspacex is ace thoughnobody else has that techhe has some failure though, like the boring companyending up producing civilian-safe flamethrowers bc fuck it lamao
in short- professional assessment here:i think elon just takes too much/many types of drugs and not enough advicei though he was sure about the fukken orbital serverswhere are they?
>>110163566>>110163495dumb twittercancer can't even write his thoughts in a single post. Many such cases!
>>110163702>nooo, dont communicateare you trying to instigate a flamewar?
>>110161837>stonks crash>still go gpufug
>>110161910Yeah they just use it to think for them
>>110163724My point was, write coherent sentences and think a minute about what you want to say, instead of dumping shit out like faggots on twiter do
>>110163729i heard through the grapevine that things will get interesting in 2028
>>110163738take it or leave ityour autism is literally not my problem
>>110163748I'll take that to mean that you're a dumb faggot
>>110163762i kinda dont care about what you think, doe
>>110163781You care so much that you keep replying
>>110161896>At best, maybe society comes into agreement that it shouldn't be used for generating artworkThat ship has long since sailed
>>110163788i care so much that youre letters in a window while im waiting for twwh3 to load from my hddit was quite the adventure to run SMART tools on itits the first time i did that, ever
>>110161862>t a theoretical lossNothing theoretical about it all the AI 'companies' are haemmoraging money. You must be thck as dried shit if you think revenue without considering operating costs =profit
thid makes all of loonix lagits annoyingi cant change contexts or everything slows down to a crawlim sure this has something to do with how file descriptors are dealt with in loonisor maybe its some higher level abstraction, actually,because each process should be independent from the pov of the hwsome people could have done better. im fairly certain about that
actually actuallyim running dwarFSso there might be a layer of complexity added onto thingsbut were also in the vibeslöpped loonix erasoooo idki think ima say its bc of loonis being vibesloppedonce everything is in-ram, its ok thoughmaybe its an interaction bw dwarFS and wine and loonis schedulingmaybe its a special case or something
>>110161950>I believe anth when they pretend gross = net revenueok shill>>110161967>>110161975>le shills don't existwe have actual examples of companies being caught to shill here, try again fagsironic shilling is still shilling