Previous: >>109879682 >UIsComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIKritaAI: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionForge Classic/Neo: https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classic>Image ModelsIL: https://rentry.org/illustrious_checkpointsAnima: https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/AnimaKrea: https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-TurboNovelAI (paid): https://novelai.net>Video ModelsH3: https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3Turbo lora: included above>How to generate anime:image : https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlvideo: https://rentry.org/wan22ldgguide (No H3 guide yet)>Style ExplorersAnima: https://anima.mooshieblob.com/ | https://animadex.net/Illustrious: https://tagexplorer.github.io>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.comhttps://tensor.arthttps://openmodeldb.infohttps://www.seaart.aihttps://www.liblib.art/>Resources:Share Metadata: https://litterbox.catbox.moeImg2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneOnline metadata viewer SD/NovelAI: https://spell.novelai.devCatbox/Metadata Userscript: https://gist.github.com/catboxanon/ca46eb79ce55e3216aecab49d5c7a3fbOutput cleanup: https://rentry.org/RemovingDiffusionGunk , https://www.mediafire.com/file/vipr23exc5htmnt (batch processing python script)Inpainting Guide from an Anon: https://files.catbox.moe/fbzsxb.jpg >>106520607>/adt/ logo:https://files.catbox.moe/pakfgt.png>Beware inorganic activityhttps://rentry.org/animanon
>>110168089>rentrys againOkay, before you call me AnimAnon and I call yourself Catjak please stop expecting us to fix the site's decline through drama. Talk to Hiro or buy an ad, engaging with you is not our job.Last thread: >>110143399
Still can't seem to get the megaman legends style anime texturing to generate properly at all. It's completely schizophrenic with pixel art.
Thread number??????
>>110168432>buy an adsay that to the raped retard breaking site rules by trying to shill its dead project
best local model for generating hentai that can immitate artist styles?im on 12gigs of vram
>>110168089Why was anistudio removed? We voted for having it in OP
>>110168089Wait why was anistudio removed?
>>110169431>>110169478because no one here uses it, duh
>>110169545I've seen multiple anons here use itWhy are you against having it in OP? Do you have a personal grudge against ani for some reason?
>>110169586I haven'tPerhaps you could link some of these "anons" if you're so sureThe raped retard doesn't count (for obvious reasons) btw
>MOSS-Image looks like it was released heavily undertrained, with a lot of potential under the hood. That user of your article has no track record of good models and in his accoount he likes to posts a lot of articles yapping.(You) >>110169268 are a gullible faggot for not seeing past the hype to the bigger picture of things.(You) >>110169268 can't see paterns and learn from the past(You) >>110169268 are another CivitAI slopper who come here sharing articles of models that (You) >>110169268 don't even use.
>>110169234>best local model>>>/g/ldg>hentai>>>/h/hdg
Where can I find someone to commission art for an original character I can use for training a custom lora for my videogame? Skeb and vgen forbid produced art to be used for ai in their terms of service.
>>110169781hire someone who knows upfront that the art is for AI trainingstarving artist are everywhere
>>110169811I know but that's why ideally I want a man in the middle platform to prevent some rando I hire on twitter to run away with my money
>>110170032Fiverr or Reddit though. Also, if they have some reputation they won't steal you for such sloppy task. I think Fiverr is the best platform for that, it's made for that use case.
where's friend...
>>110169586>I've seen multiple anons here use itI lurk this thread often and have only seen two anons use it. One being the creator and the second being the guy who tried to get it to run on linux but stopped shortly after the author made fun or him or something. Where are the other anons you say who use it?
>>110169609You're trying too hard.
>>110169609>can't see paterns and learn from the pastThat's a combination of genetic fallacy and gambler's fallacy, both of which are only made by genuinely stupid people.
>>110171080My attempt at Kubalkans>>110169609I'll let others here decide which of the two of us is acting in good faith. Like >>110171406 says, you should maybe learn a bit more subtlety on that front
Regional prompting is such a pain in the ass. I guess the only way to make good group pictures is with NovelAI or some bs, isn't it?
>>110172260MOSS bounding boxes.
>>110172378You don't even need bounding boxes most of the time, just tell the model where each character is. The text encoder is large enough to properly understand.
Does MOSS have inpainting tools?How do you upscale it?Yes, I'm a retarded newfag does someone have a workflow to share onegaishimasu
>>110172715idk about inpaint, but you can do native 1080p, or even 2048x2048 just fine without needing to upscale.
>>110172715i don't think it does. the best inpaint tool is krita, whatever is supposed there has at least decent inpainting
My NAI sub renews tomorrow and I'm on the fence. I like it very much but there's this guilt trip that comes with paying monthly, like if I'm not genning every day I'm wasting my money. Problem is I've got other stuff I want to do besides genning too.Honestly I'd love an option to split a sub with someone else, 5k Anlas each, $12.5 USD a month per person.
>>110172938For me the standard resolution basically doesnt exist, so 25 bucks is just a way to get anlas at a discount. I basically only use it as preview of prompts or img2img on higher resolutions.
>>110171628>My attempt at KubalkansNice!
>>110173209>25 bucks is just a way to get anlas at a discountBased
Are naifags still using voodoo cards or what?
Rip Anima (2026 - 2026)
>>110172715Yes [spoiler]its called photoshop[/spoiler]
>>110173578Nah, it's doing great on CivitAI. Barely anyone touches non-Anima based derivatives
>>110172260skill issue. /jp/sies are prompting multi character gens with dialogue text no problem
>>110173578Not 2026, i doubt we will get a moss anime tune before the end of 2026.
>>110173634MossAD ?
>>110169781Alternatively you can describe them in detail here and see what we slop for you
>>110169781NAI presise reference , fuck artists
>>110173398>nai>can gen on a 2019 smartphone on the go (5 to 7 seconds)>video card
>>110169234anima turbo
>110173641lol
>>110171628Fantastic backgrounds and good quality in general. Catbox?
>>110173106nice aigold
>>110171353very nice
>>110173641Too small scale to be considered a proper tune.
>>110173398It wouldnt even run fast on a 5090
>>110173578Indeedhttps://huggingface.co/ChenkinLab/CKMoss-Image-RGBA
>>110175558>assets>no modelsThis is Anistudio level speculation LoRAs people post on CivitAI look awful, and small projects built on this model show serious instability.
Let me break it down for some of you: Civitai loves that theres a new model every other week, the make money on hosting as many shitmixes and loras as possible. They do not care if all of these models are worthless playthings you'll use for 30 minutes before moving to next thing.
>>110175638I get that, but why are (experienced:0.25) finetuners buying into the hype? I haven't seen a single MOSS gen that made me go "this model is actually great" the way Krea 2 did for me
>>110175657My best guess, is that their datasets and training material is ready from previous works, so they only need to hit the train button on a new model and collect coins/ reputation for it.>(experienced:0.25)kek
>>110173085I approve
>>110170490We don’t do that here
>>110168089Why aren't you putting slopbro's gens in the collage?
>>110175886To sloppy
Whatever cringe or dumb shit ani did catjack now seems like a much bigger faggot for being so obsessed with him. What the fuck, catjack, did ani spurn you or something? Can't you two kiss and make up?
>>110176814Why are you hitting yourself?
>>110176814>much bigger faggotShow don't tell.
Anons, which model would you recommend? I'm after realism like sharpness and detailed shadows.
>>110177399hmmmyessloppy
>>110177488Thanks Catjak,
>>110177488Genuine question, what draws you to this hobby? Is this one type of 2hu MILF with lips and a voluptuous figure the only thing you work with?Why bother with diffusion models if there's no growth or self reflection happening in your work? In all the time I've known you I haven't seen any of that. It comes across less like genuine interest from you and more like a shallow showcase, testing out models just to farm (You)'s, engagement, or whatever. What I'm getting at is that I don't see authentic interest in diffusion, art, anime, or illustration on your part. The only explanation I can come up is that this Catjak persona is just a vehicle to socialize on 4chan, Discord, and elsewhere, while whatever you do with diffusion that matters to you happens somewhere else, out of sight from us. Godspeed Catjak, maybe somewhere in all this you will find something real, meaningful and fulfilling that's yours and only yours, not borrowed from /ldg/.
Kek. This place isn't exactly in a position to say that, not with the gens you have got here.
>>110177988her head feels to small
join her faith
>>110178745This crotch to top of head is about 3.45 heads, double that to get body height assuming legs are half of total height though irl legs are little less than half. Irl bodies are somewhere between 6.5 to 7.5 heads tall.However, her face is too small with extra space between eyebrows and eyes.
>>110178976so you're saying I can fit two heads in her crotch, huh
>>110173378What's based about that?
>>110174663Does pomf retain metadata? Catbox is down as usualhttps://pomf.space/Q0Xm3bZt.pngAnyway, the Nagano lora still isn't released yet, probably tonight
>>110179584i want to try a bbox workflow but been too lazy to actually go find one
>>110177488It would be funny if you made a game or smt with this style, you know this qualifies.But Gensokyo girls might be difficult.
What's the biggest, best image model I can run on 24GB VRAM?
>>110178957>Not an alcoholic idiotNo thank you
>>110179584I don't use or care about non anime models.
>>110179685NAI5 if leaked
>>110179719I've been enjoying your Shirow gens. What model?
>>110179824I am using Zukinewcute, but don't take my slop as anything decisive, some of the tags retro artstyle,1990s \(style\), pinup_\(style\), by masamune shirow, shirow_masamune, 1990s_\(style\), movie_poster, https://files.catbox.moe/8ioo0z.png
>>110179584Dunno. Just spent an hour trying to remove claws from demonic wings, because they looked silly.
>>110179824And I'd take your box too, if you're sharingThat's quite the asset, I think the stripes look nice
>>110179775Models aren’t disposable overnight if you care about what you make.
>>110171947Artist?
>>110179762so theres no good big models then
>>110179893Sure assuming catbox is working againhttps://files.catbox.moe/oqibx5.png
>>110179775Did people figure out yet how to properly make loras?
>>110179753Same, but i still use Moss, since it know quite a few characters.
>>110180167nah, even with moss's recommended settings, the loras still aren't coming out good.
>>110180194Based on sample images they look fine to me, which ones have you tried?
>>110180167>>110180194Maybe ask in ldg they have a number of moss bakers
>>110180282Absolutely fucking not, that thread is full of schizos.
>>110180202any of them, compared to their predecessor models by the same author across different versions. krea 2 is the most reliable for loras, followed by animamoss isn't stable for that yet.
>>110180307Your loss, then fren
>>110180145tyverymuchI should try Krea2 and now I have a workflow, haven't beforehttps://baike.baidu.com/en/item/Mamoru%20Nagano/3274918damn these people are glazing the artist you used hard
>>110180282I don't care about non anime threads.
Do you guys also remember how adt was created with reposts from ldg in an effort to drive anons away from it? Good times
>>110179753Based. If I prompt a model with Batman, Homer Simpson, Peter Griffin or Donald Trump and it can give me those images, I don't care about that model at all.
Do you guys also remember how ldg was created with reposts from reddit in an effort to drive anons away from it? Good times
>>110180307NTA but there was only one (singular) anon in that shithole that had an interesting setup, asked claude about it and I'm down to try it out. Other than that you have catshit and the other retard that want to be vague about it because "the civitjeets might steal my setup", might be the same retard who knows.
Well maybe might be time to kill off /ldg/ for good and create a r/StableDiffusion general on /g/ to give it some competition?
>adt kvetching over the superior thread again Is it a day that ends in y?
>>110180384yeah i remeber that one anon whod sperg out and screech at any anon posting anime in ldg linking them here and then later most anons realized he was the only one who cared and ignored him heh
Does anyone still use Civitai? holy fuck that website is so dogshit and broken.
>>110180453It is a den of horrors but the only place to find some things.
Could you please shut up?
New model waiting room
>>110180453Lots of people use it because it's pretty much a monopoly.
I was still a concept in my daddy's ball sack when that aired, but very convincing styleI went in a Ukiyo-e spiral for a little bit but Illustrious isn't very nice with it
>>110180282>moss bakersLmao, krea 2 is the true anime model
>>110180194The moss recommended settings are wrong. You need to set alpha lower than dim or else the lora would overcook instantly.
>>110180661use anima, it's fine
>>110181012
does the ez-scripts fork for anima work for 2.9b? I baked it fine but I wonder if it's still not using the full apparent blocks unless that's placebo but i'm also told base anima loras work on 2.9 when in truth never really works.
Is there a windows version to unlock my nvidia 3060?
Is it ok to post stuff in here that you made with chatgpt or is this only for things made with local models?
>>110182194Sass is welcome
Miss the NAI warhammer novelai anon , only low quality gens now
>>110182208He got taken out by the Inquisition for heresy I heard
>>110182233idk, but the gens from itt now sucks bigly nowThe most interesting gens are from catjack (ip banned?) and cui_
>>110182203thanksI've been making pictures of Anubis
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>>110182297
>>110182274>>110182279>>110182286>>110182293Gpt.?
>>110182306
>>110182316last one>>110182314yeah all chatgpt. I got a free month trial so I thought I'd put it to good use
>>110182318Well thanks for the images, we have been low on them these days, if you want to keep posting 30 more i think it's good
>>110182286Thought this was a trap
>>110182325I'll be posting more
Newfag ITTI like to gen fake screenshots of real showsWhat would be the best model for that? So far I've used illustrious and anima, picrel is in anima
>>110180883>Illustrious isn't very nice with itskill issue this is like a year old gen
>>110182912Hold on... is that Anubis? Are you the same anon that was posting moss image anubis gens a few days ago?
>>110183156I don't think model matters. No model has been properly trained on actual anime shows to learn the style. You would need to use LORA for the particular show. The model shouldn't matter much.
>>110183365The model obviously matters. Not only in what it can do natively, but also the availability of loras for it.
>>110183156Nai, it tries to force everything to official art by default
>>110183701>paying to use AIfuggWhen will someone leak it
>>110183280no, that'd be me. i've never used chatgpt. been busy so haven't made anything in a bit
>>110171628>Kubalkansa wat
https://github.com/ElectronGirl/ComfyUI-Anima-Ref-Adapter
>>110184280ooo this looks good
>>110183156NovelAI SoTA anime screenshotOr you can cope your way with Anima/Illu/Krea2+ lorasOr Anima/Illu/Krea2 + Loras + anime coloring + anime screenshot + anime screencap + official art + offiial styleDon't ask me why, but local models don't have anime screenshots as part of their dataset
>>110184280Finally! a reference node that is not shi–>Animalol
>>110184280Anima looks slopped by default
>>110182286Adorbs
>>110183701>tries to force everything to official art by defaultWhich is based. Danbooru artists draw like shit. The composition and the texture or lighting work can be interesting, but the face and body shapes that come out of danbooru art are bad and I hate it.
>>110183170Ok that does look niceCare to tell me the model?
>>110184280Can't wait for NAI's one
>>110183734I wish china would use a swarm of opus 5.5 and try to open the cybersec gap and leak NAID tho
>>110184434How can you do that with gpt?
>>110184450like i said i'm not the guy using gpt, this is moss
>>110184458But how did you copy the two characters? Are they from a known franchise? Nice feet.
>>110184458Lmao so it's serious that they used gpt slop as dataset. Good local model, anon.
>>110184472i just described them. that's purely prompted. haven't tried anything with references yet.as for who they are, the blue-haired one is an unofficial anthropomorph of google's gemma llm model, popular on /lmg/. and the brown-haired one is anubis, a mascot for a bot protection system (http://anubis.techaro.lol/) which i'm only now realising the irony of generating images of... actually that brings a whole new unintended meaning to the picture i just posted... lol
I already seen the pics moss produces and its this souless anima-esque lack of style and emotion that doesnt produce any vivid expression or intrincate artist style beyond the generic. Worthless models for complex artist loras, same as anima.
Hi, /adt/ https://github.com/FizzleDorf/AniStudio/releases/tag/AniStudio-538c24fba9ea
>>110184615you're not ani but who cares, still thanks for letting us know
>>110184600Anima is more suited from being trained on a massive matched dataset unlike Moss that is still undertrained and giga slopped.
>>110184434>>110184510Did you try to img2img that Moss gen into Anima to remove the GPT sloppiness?
>>110184865never tried anything with an image reference. i just a week ago started generating stuff again after a year of not doing so. i picked up anima for maybe a couple days before moss came out and i've been playing with that since. i was trying to make a character point to something with anima and couldn't make it do it with any semblance of reliability, while moss could. also anima has a really strong default style which i had trouble getting around.not sure what about that one you think looks too gpt-like. i haven't used gpt myself at all, couldn't even tell you the name of it's website.
When it comes to local AI we are regressing. Illustrious was more aesthetically pleasing that current day models. They all produce flat corposlop no one in their right mind would enjoy.
>>110184615Thats nice
>>110185159Illustrious needs a metric ton of loras tho
>>110185378:É›>>110185159That is easy anon, Illu Noob and Chenkin still come out ahead conceptually and structurally even when the final image looks like shit, their training data is better aligned with what we want to gen. Moss, Anima, and Krea weren't trained on that so their outputs end up less interesting by comparison.
>same boring shitty discussion*yawn*
>>110184615>>110184698>>110185345Hang yourself Julien
>>110176814whatever thing ani supposedly did, catjak made himself look ten times more pathetic by caring this much
ani is used to this kind of obsession though
>>110176814>>110185719>>110185731No one cares JulienHang youself
>>110185702>>110185757you really woke up and chose obsession today
open source in a nutshell
>>110185535>>110185159>>110184600>>110184410Nice yap, shame gens itt are telling me a different story.
good morning
>>110185840gm ;3 what did you have for breakfast~?
>>110180762>>110180883catbox
>>110185535just use styles made for anima, what's the problem?
>>110185840SD1.5?
>>110185855bread
>>110185855stale coffee and nicotine patch
>>110185907>>110184983>>110184958
>>110185968>bread hovering over deskkek
>>110185907Same face krea 2 lora syndrome>>110185921Painterly sloppy>>110185968Modern artist xitter face slop>>110186027Slop
Roundhouse kick fine tuner opportunistsDemand new anime models
>>110185994hoverbread
>>110186049>krea 2 lora syndromeit's anima you detective. faces weren't even tagged
How is this for localslop?
>>110186126Nice AI gold !Maybe even AI platinum !!!
>>110186126ask in edg
>>110186126Lack of depth, excessive symmetry, very forced, forward camera angle. 6/10
>>110186126Hello Catshit
>>110186234Well that's moss the future anine model, enjoy it
>>110186220Why ? /adt/ is capable of discussing this. Why do you always have to compare us to other generals?
>>110186126Bad tho good VAE means nothing if the model has few params
>>110186234>Lack of depth, excessive symmetry, very forced, forward camera angleI did think it was too close and should have put more effort into putting them farther from the camera.
>>110186356>? /adt/ is capable of discussing thisWe are not
>>110186460Why?
>>110186460Look at the collage and tell me with a straight face that /adt/ is qualified to have an opinion.
>>110186696Yes?
local is falling apart and /adt/ is struggling to keep discussion alive~
>>110186720Retard
>>110186416Its not your fault, nai would've produced better depth perception and better shading
based nai shiller local could never
We couldve crowdfunded a better model with furry money but they already have their peak in v5 aswell
>>110186756Local don't make enough pattern diversity. They can do some complex things well but the patterns they create are rigid. if you gen a character standing in a field of flowers, the flowers all look too similar and predictable, not natural or random like real flowers would be and NAI can achieve easily.
>>110186791Amateur finetuners are wasting more money on failed attempts than a month of NAI subscription would cost.
>>110183156ChatGPT. After you see what it can do with reference images, you won't be able to go back.
Paypigs alert
>>110187174I also noticed how nai tends to produce images that seem taken "in the moment", whereas local has that robotic posing thing about going on. And always with very straight centered camera angles that scream slop.
Stop abusig lolcals pwease :((((
As a Nai user, I've gotten into way too many battles with the thing to not want loras
Funny thought: do you think even the most competent anime finetune of MOSS would beat NAIv5 Medium (the turbo version of NAI, with fewer steps and reduced CFG)?My guess is no.
V5 doesn't even have reference, img genning as a whole is fucked.
>>110187438Those civitai niggas just have captioned datasets all the way back from the SDXL days. They load up a new model from time to time, hit train and collect coins to finance their private H3 minimax gooning collection.
>>110187450I'm making do with the animation stuff but it definitely makes it tough, I wanted to gen front/back/side shots of designs I liked so I could create references for the ani to build from all sides cleanlyCurrently, I have to order it stop walking (the motion it's genn'd at) and then "do the thing"Ani studio having to carry Nai's ass is kind of funny
>>110187477No one uses that shit stop samefagging
>>110187406Feel you, training loras is what makes locals realize how much unpaid part time work, (curating, tagging, edit bar censors if nsfw) goes in for often disappointing results, which is why many eventually switch to NAI.
>>110187497I'm not your tulpa demon, btw
>>110187266Real I wasted 20 runpod credits training krea style loras and I have to burn more teaching it idol cunny characters
why does anon spend all his time trying to troll and demoralize this general?
>>110187471Nah, I know, I'm not even counting those. I mean the actual serious finetunes, from Moss Lab itself, Noob or Kohaku.
>>110187438nai's character placement tool or whatever is pretty ass so yeah
I'm afraid that outside of spamming 4chan, NAI is completely irrelevant.
>>110187584Maybe wanting the local genners to migrate elsewhere? Makes you wonder who benefits from this general getting shat up with SaaS trolling.
>>110187624Umm... okay anon, you tried.
>>110187641finally someone not completely braindead.
>>110187584Why do unemployed subhuman trolls do what they do? They're aliens as far as I'm concerned.
>>110187641Classic jakcat, he shows up here and avatarfags a little before he deletes his posts falseflagging a ban since he's a mod, then returns anonymously to shit up the general.He did the same last year with the anistudio drama.
This general is dead because local is dead. The only people that come here are longing for a NAI substitute, saying that it isnt actually that good just means you either never tried it or have no creativity to max out local models.
>>110187546>often disappointing resultsThis is where you are lying, if you did a good job of curating it will come out good, even with Anima, which is the most stubborn to train
>>110187714The general isn't dead (if for no other reason than people like you bumping it) and neither is local.
>>110186696Are you dissing my gens, anon?And tbf if I ever press the 'update' button on Comfy by mistake, I'm asking in /edg/ idgaf I'd ask the people that are into the technical stuffI post pictures here bc I like it here and I dislike realistic, asian women, m'not racis jus don't like em is all.>>110186975maybe give 3wolfmondai a spin, it's illustrious but very knowledgeble
>>110187584>>110187641This is happening in pretty much every image general I know of. Either it's some artfag anti-ai discord trolling those places as some sort of retaliation, or it's just that genning attracts mentally ill neets that start sperging out sooner or later.
>>110187757That's a big bulge
>>110187784probably the former or something close to it. actual NAI shills would be posting images from the model but I doubt some anti-ai person wants to give money to an AI company just to troll
So I'm trying to give Anima a try, turns out my old reforged environment doesn't support it, so I updated to neo forged and now I'm just getting black images.Then I noticed that only these Anima models are supported:>Anima 2B / Anima 2.9B / Anima 3.8BWhich of these should I be using instead of Anima-base?
>>110187809Thing is a nai user wouldnt want to waste tokens on sfw gens to "own the locals" o algo. He's just demanding a better local model. You'd have to be an absolute bottom feeder to just close your eyes and pretend local is just as good.
>>110187809>probably the former or something close to it. actual NAI shills would be posting images from the model but I doubt some anti-ai person wants to give money to an AI company just to trollYeah. It's just a way to shit up the thread. And let's be honest, there's like 10 people here. Nobody's wasting their budget on places this small, and if they did, they'd probably actually post something impressive instead of making people annoyed with this spam. >>110187825Post your nsfw gen in a catbox.
>>110187825>waste tokens on sfw gensWhat an odd thing to say.
>>110187848Right? So the dude's both a bad faith troll and a complete coombrain. And hee thinks he's owning anyone but himself.
>>110187809>actual NAI shills would be posting images from the modelThey wouldn't because they need to be able to lie. It's also harder to pretend to be multiple people when you're posting images. No one really cares about NAI, remove the spam and you just have local users. The spam is literally the only thing keeping NAI alive.
>>110187867Ah, it's you ff-kun.
You can keep crying about shills, as time goes on it will dawn on you that you've been left behind, wasting time on shitty loras or inpainting stuff like it meant something.Its not a skill, its just a bad model. A real skill is drawing with your hands.
>>110187819Go for 3.8b Delta Mix
>>110187803for you...
>>110187885Prove him wrong.
>>110187819use the standard anima base and not some meme mix
>>110187885Because really, if you're going to be talking about SoTA, composition, or whatever, you really can't attach a shitty image to your post. That's where the NAI lie dies, and the reason no one wants to post a NAI image. You need the text posts to keep the lie alive a bit longer.
Why this general has the worst of /ldg/The worst of /hdg/The worst of /edg/The worst of /aicg/
>>110187894You can keep crying about us dismissing you, but until you post a gen, no one will take you seriously.
>>110187819Anima 2B is base. The other are shitmixes people make to try to "improve" it.
>>110187908I don't need to and I can't, I don't use NAI right now. Knowing your MO it's probably you who flooded the thread with the "shilling" in the first place. This already happened in other threads before.
>>110187926Ani effectThis is why we must always kick him out, we can't let reddit be the only ones that could remove him.
I mean, any idiot can see this anti-local stuff is all just bad-faith, noimg trolling. That said, NAI is very good and still has strengths over local in terms of prompt adherence and character knowledge, though that gap is narrowing. Also, the inability to bake loras is a bad thing, not a good thing.
>>110187931You can keep crying about me not posting a gen, until everyone in all circles notices nai is better and you just have to cry in the corner, with all your shitty e-doodles.
>>110187926We are a new general, just wait.
>>110187941You need to if you want all your obvious trolling to be taken seriously, and you don't need to be subbed to NAI this moment to post gens from it, you fucking imbecile.
>>110187894Personally I fucking love using my computer I have at home to generate possibly the most debauched slop the internet will never see. That and normal stuff I post on an anonymous image board that gets visited by maybe 12 regular people, the technology has gotten so far I'm having difficulty discerning it sometimes from drawn art.I could not care less about 'being left behind' at the moment because the thing available to me is already very good, and there are constant improvements.If I cared more I would have tried NAI for shits and giggles, and sure it has great stuff coming out with just a prompt.Not gonna argue about the drawing skill bc I agree
>>110187967Why would I cry about the very thing that proves me right and you wrong?
Well here are some NAI gens >>110185986 go ahead and reproduce them lolkek
>>110187966if NAI starts giving users the possibility of making loras themselves, I also hope they enable their closed source tagger and sota edit models to curate them instantly, I don't plan to invest my time solving gaps that are their own. also, them starting to make loras means their next finetunes are going to be lazier
>>110187809>probably the former or something close to it.i actually think it's the latter. ai threads are ripe with mental illness, and with zero useful moderation some schizophrenic/bipolar is just gonna blow up the thread at some point snd nobody's gonna stop him
>>110187997See? You simply never tried nai so you look like a bumbling idiot, since I've tried all local models and know they're shit.
>>110187974On model hairstyleOut of model face expressionOut of model bodyOut of model feetOut of model styleVeredict: use NAI
>>110187974nice cup
>>110188019Post one of your Krea2 images, I'm curious to see how "far" you got with it in terms of quality.
>>110187974>not cunny enoughYeah .......
>>110187974Slop
>>110188026>>110188035on model ch*ldren are this way >>>/b/
>>110188061>NAI and Anima sloppersinterdashing
>>110188032As one of the nai shillers I'll say that I consider kroma the strongest (non anime) model right now. Nice gen btw, shame for the weird perspective on the hanging lamps tho.
>>110187966>anti-localNow think about this. Who would be "anti-local"? From where does this distinction come from? Why is "local" something that should be trolled over and destroyed? And the trolling isn't really a generic anti-local stance, no one is trolling with Seedream, ChatGPT, or any other random hosted service like Pixai, Leonardo, or whatever. The trolling is exclusively pro-NAI. Search online about what are the most popular AI sites, and there should be plenty of other sites to be trolling with if it was based on popularity. Yet the only thing being forced on 4chan is NAI, which also happens to be the company funded by anons.
I wonder how many people in this thread have a job
>>110188132Fillyfucker-kun, did you run out of lithium? Haven't seen you for a while.
>>110188130>As one of the nai shillersShow us a gen. I'll be gentle.
>>110188132NAI does its own propietary shit, other sites (like Pixai) only let you use local models remotely (with limitations on top of it) Besides paying bills/hardware, local will always be better than those since it doesn't have those limitations.
>>110188149Here >>110188003
>>110188209She's such a good girl
>>110188188You've been pointing at those, what, three pictures?Are you 'out of tokens'? Do you need to 're-upp'?
>>110188222I love her so much
>>110188178>NAI does its own propietary shitAnd who is going to care about that besides NAI itself? To anyone else, it's just another random anime image. Random people won't be able to tell a v4.5 gen from a v5 one.
>>110188229Not to mention those pictures are Illu level in quality. Look at the murky trees and shrubs.
>>110188132We're in an anime degen imageboard site, no one cares about seedream, pixai, or any other shit. nai is shilled because it's a raw and unfiltered anime model with character and style knowlege. That's it ... literally. That's the entire playbook. The moment a local baker makes this, it's over.Guess what local does not have. Moss and Kroma are the closest things we got.
>>110188237How do you gen her? Just describing her features?
>>110188250>nai is shilledIt is shilled, but not by organic users. So I'm not sure the "quality" matters in that case. The only reason they need is "it benefits me".
>>110188246VerilyIt's almost like anon doesn't have a NAI sub and just shits up threads
>>110188279i use nai because my GPU these days is mostly tasked with render work and training neural nets. it's a lot easier to work with than local even if you can get similar quality from either
>>110188263very cute
>>110188268I made a collage of reference pictures with design and style information, and wrote a character profile, and asked chatgpt to make more collages of lots of pictures of her, and then i took its collages and split them into small pictures and kept sending them back saying "turn this into a full picture", and whenever it said "I'm sorry, this request violates the content guidelines", i would reply "yeah that's what I'm saying, could you take the picture as you understand it and reimagine it as something that's appropriate according to your understanding of what's appropriate?" And then it would successfully generate the picture
>>110188201Slop
>>110188293>>110188246>>110188229All bark no gen lmao
>>110188293No, no way. It's paid shills who really want to astroturf NAI in a 10 user thread. It's impossible that it's same mentally ill shitposter who has been doing this for several years.
>>110188279Probably not, people just want an easy no hassle coom machine. Oh, and the loli lovers as well
>it sure would be easy to reproduce this nai pic in local, im just not going to do it heh
with some time and effort, any image made with NAI can be recreated with local toolsthe same cant be said of the inverse however
>>110188309The burden of proof is on the shiller here baka
>>110188309You were challenged to post something by NAI that local cannot do. That was not fulfilled.
>>110188325deluded
>>110188323The majority of the pics being posted here are about that level of quality.
>>110188315I knew a person who made rent with sketching furry porn, pretty bad qualityI'd be pretty mad that I could not get paid anymore, all I'm saying is if I wanted people to go to NAI I'd post peak every post I made, they aren't posting - any- pictures
>>110188342No one owes you anything, the nai shilling is staying regardless of your feefees, dear no gen.
>>110188303erm, interesting way.
>>110188325I tacitly agree but that might be because I am not weighed down by any actual knowledge about the subject matter
>>110188361>NAI is better than your local model>Okay prove it>N-n-n-n-n-no
>>110188359he either wants to shit up the thread or wants posters here to hate nai. you have to be pretty stupid not to see this.
>>110188377The shilling is gonna stay cause eventually I'll go to sleep, and some other anon will go "Dude nai is so awesome! Why hasnt local catched up yet?". And basically you will shit and piss yourself.
>>110188299>my GPU these days is mostly tasked with render work and training neural netsI don't really care. This doesn't really explain being a cheerleader or why you owe them your loyalty to be spamming 4chan for them. It also doesn't make NAI shilling more organic. They seem to compensate their lack of popularity with hostility, because that's how their presence feels in most threads where they're mentioned. Without that, they wouldn't call attention.I think about the things I pay for, I never feel the need to talk about them on 4chan. Why would I work so that someone else gets money? Why would I go the extra mile when I'm just paying for porn? That's why a NAI shill is a distinct being from a normal user. Normal people don't care about the company.
>>110188315>It's paid shills who really want to astroturf NAI in a 10 user thread.The trolling helps make it a 10 user thread. Same with the trolling /hdg/. That's the intention behind the "anti-local" trolling. It directly benefits NAI. They also benefit from the repetition. Some people think they need NAI to prompt two characters, just because they hear their marketing terms over and over.
>>110188359>if I wanted people to go to NAI I'd post peak every post I madeWhat if NAI is unable to impress people? What would you do? I think the only thing left would be to do the exact same thing that already happens in this thread, which is to spam about it without proof. Because the alternative doesn't really exist. It's either lying like that or being never heard of.
>>110188531Or the alternative is that you spammed the thread with NAI shilling to make people hate NAI like you always do, Claudefag.
So much talk but local reamains dead
blud says local is dead but im still having fun everyday genning pictures lol
>>110188531There where people here using NAI and they where posting fun stuffImportant detail is that not a single one of them ever suggested to anyone to get a sub, or how they where better in genning or smt
>>110188547Why would anyone care if some company is hated or not? How is that relevant to the thread? "Leave NAI alone" is something only a shill would think about. No one else cares. I don't think NAI is even worth hating. They're completely irrelevant. They only exists on 4chan through spam. They have zero organic presence. Nobody will lose sleep if they suddenly go away.
>>110188628>Why would anyone care if some company is hated or not? The obvious answer is that you are very mentally ill and have been obsessed with NAI for several years. I care about this because you already shat up and ruined /hdg/ with this exact bullshit before this and now you start this shit up here.
I wish there was a good local model I could install in my system
>>110188655Pretty sure moss, krea, anima and ill fit on that just fine
>>110188747Yeah but I said good model dude
>>110188652I don't like how they push for their service on 4chan. It doesn't really benefit anyone but them, and it just makes the site worse. It just seems entirely selfish. What NAI discussion is worth keeping in these threads? They just don't have enough organic interest, and they're forcing themselves in with spam. NAI is simply not worth defending, it's just shilling and nothing else.>ruined /hdg//hdg/ also got ruined with pro-NAI trolling. The only objective of that is to not let local flourish. I still think that without spam or trolling, NAI would just disappear from 4chan. They're just not relevant enough for anyone to care about them.
>>110188757Doesn't exist even for saas
>>110188763>>110188771>
>>110188763Alright now you're just coping
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>>110188810How do you explain this? >>110187624
>>110188853>Using google analytics to prove anythingI was with you until "NAI would just disappear from 4chan". The one model that does cunny will not just "disappear". That's cope.
>>110188853To put it simply you dont understand statistics
>Finding a picture of a woman squatting properly inside a rack with the safetiesImpossible
>>110188869>cunnyWhy would I do this with an online service that asks for my billing information?Also, I think I heard NAI got banned from Paypal. And I got the impression they hand-rolled their payment stack. Your information could be sitting in an insecure database.
>>110188890BRRRRRFFFPPPPTTTTTTTTTTTT
>>110188602That's the funny thing. Those of us who use local know how good it is without his input. His position is basically "Noooooo don't believe your own experiences".
>>110188921Do not care.As long as it can do black magic cunny, its going to be used, especially here of all places. That is, until an equally better option appears out of the blue.
full nai assets could leak right now and the troll would just say nai is bad actually since the only goal is to troll
>>110188946Very brave and poetic, but the next guy uses local AND nai, so his experiences are even better.
>To ignore one's own eyes and experiences was their final, and most important command
>>110188983NAI is very good too, to be sure. If you're a trust fund kiddie or a welfare leech and have the time to both be a localfag and an NAIfag, all the power to you.
>>110188971No one said NAI is bad. Just that the expectations of the "SoTA" spam is never going to match reality, if you have to actually look at a picture. So all of that is not warranted. It's just something selfish that benefits them. Pushing back against the spam doesn't make NAI a victim, like you want to pretend. I don't think there's anything besides pro-NAI trolling anyway, so I'm not sure from where does the equivalence come from. It just seems like a way to pretend it's nobody's fault.
>>110188983I hope they post gens when they do so we have something to admireI hope you get paid per (you) mfer :3
>>110188971This will never happen. V5.00 is under a gridlock of different cryptographic security systems. Funds are safu.
>>110188365What do you mean? What do you think about it?
>>110189185nta but I thought the "yeah that's what I'm saying, part was kinda clever
>>110189185I just totally didn't expect it to be done in such a way. But it's cool if it works.
>>110189200>>110189234Yeah that's what I'm saying, it works every time.
Mnhooooooooohhhhhhh!!!!!!
>>110189390Anubis picturetf anon...stop staring at my screen
>>110189406>>110189390oh wait shes an anubis too>>51344200saw it there
>>110189769She's gonna sweat so much
>>110189769Finger artifact
what is an artifact?
>>110189834a miserable pile of pixels
I will bake, please someone tell me the real thread number
>>110189889i guess 156. doubt it really matters
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