A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currentlyhttps://developers.openai.com/codex/cli## Near-the-old-frontier models for codehttps://x.ai/cli — no 5h limit for only $30/month## Best free tierhttps://antigravity.google/pricing----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favoritehttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/https://opencode.ai/## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>110168787
lol who switched to the old shit OP with grok i didn't notice
>>110173913the other/another OP has a somewhat different text that he copies and pastesI had a look at his but I wasn’t convinced of all his changes that he made
>>110173931>claude on iphone screenshotbugged
cursor is now found on grok, it's very confusing.Feel super lucky to get in at $60...
>click first link in OP >blogpost that begins with gay ass s oyllennial "SO ERM..... VIBECODING IS HAVING A MOMENT YAS QUEEN" faggot wat
>>110173913that said>Near-the-old-frontier models for codeis damning with faint praise, which is more or less what I intended, because people will wonder if Grok is any good (not really)
>>110173940look closer, it's obviously a joke. Write with Siri lol
>>110173949it shouldn't be discussed, just like how we don't discuss nemotron
>>110173949>wonder if Grok is any good (not really)It's the best model at diffusion (code), for whatever reason. It can answer complex questions about any new model that has released code.
>>110173961Completely insane. I don't like the safety rails, but Grok 4.7 is a genius.
>>110173868>/grill-with-docs is a favoriteqrd on this?
>>110173978>Grok 4.7 is a geniusyou keep saying this and posting minigames. i'm doing bioinformatics.
>>110174017it's a system for clarifying language. I just use grill-me. that's more advanced.basically, you and your llm can uh. you can say something that totally gets misunderstood. You go through rounds of q&a that are multiple choice.key point.you use the plan mode, in Cursor. you put your answers as a click on the option you want - if you want to say something DON'T put it in the regular prompt box, you put it right beside the freeform box itself. it may work more elegantly on other apps. idk
>>110174017actually just read it/them, it’s/they’re that simplehttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills/blob/main/skills/engineering/grill-with-docs/SKILL.mdhttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills/blob/main/skills/productivity/grilling/SKILL.mdhttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills/blob/main/skills/engineering/domain-modeling/SKILL.mdyou can just copy/paste too of course if you don’t want to install anything
>>110174026>mumbles something about why he can't make a game
>>110173953>nobody said anything about the filename
>>110174050>mumbles something about why he's hitting guardrails making gamestoo busy curing cancer https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/cellsnail
>>110174017when you get drunk as shit and use voice transcription to vibe code an app until 4am, you use grill-with-docs the next day to figure out what you did and whether it was retarded or not
>>110174060We have too many old people anyhow, do something useful for the youthful: make a GAME.
>We have too many old people anyhow, do something useful for the youthful: make a GAME.
Time another latenight session for the local vibeGOD.
>>110174070first question: what's this app do?
the lonely vibechad seems to vibe his code at night
>>110173868I fucking hate weekly cooldowns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNm4zyUtWj0amazing presentation on runebench which i've posted about a few times
>I'll launch two subagents after all. One will bake skies and biomes with a strict API contract. The other will write the Csound orchestra using an exact OSC protocol. I'm defining file ownership now to prevent collisions.:) neat
>>110173945that's the creator of django he's a legend and gets a pass for being a basedlennial
>>110174158wont it eventually just be in the training set and if not you can convert semantics in harnesses to get better results
>try out 6.1 sol on a long coding task>look at sources>it was searching women's sports websites at one point
>>110174110I ask this constantly to make sure my AI isnt being a fucking retard, fresh context of course
Terra 6.1 is very capable, but also seems scared to do complex stuff without constantly asking me about it
6.1 Terra thank you tibo sar
>>110174463
># # MEGA UPDATE # # MEGA UPDATE # # MEGA UPDATE # #[XENO/KOI] - Versioin 22: HANAFUDA ACOUSTICA APEXUS>Direct Download (Recommend):https://github.com/Aquaslopper/Xeno-koi/releases/tag/v22>Play in Browser:https://aquaslopper.github.io/Xeno-koi/play/># # MEGA UPDATE # # MEGA UPDATE # # MEGA UPDATE # #changemegalog:* Add front-end & hub restructure* Nest active profile files under profiles directory* Require Campaign presets and remove shared match options* Refine reverb energy thresholds and hold time* Add midpoint black dip to hub blur transition* Reduce panel and text flare thickness* Apply Pancratium branding to campaign screens* Make Action Card gadget threshold difficulty-dependent* Adjust reverb energy decay rate* Add ember heat to the ash field, driven by the capture envelope* Pancratium Campaign Hub* Profile Manager Screen* Soft Blur Midpoint Black Transition* Action Card Gadget Threshold (Easy: 25%)* Synergy Flare Boost Toned Down* Card Flight & CPU Think Durations Unified* Reverb Envelope Retuning (holds for 2s now)[to_be Ψ(n)] ⊗ [not_to_be Φ(n)]
We are getting Fable 5.5 tomorrow btw
>>110174520what I heard was 2 more weeks ok
anyone with spare usage want some help? I have a game idea
When is deepseek flash getting as good as Opus 5.5?That's all I ever wanted.
>>110174648they can't distill anymore, so give it some timethe latest deepseek is good enough as a worker alongside opus
>>110174595Yeah you can help me I want some help
>>110174692How about 3D happy wheels with current real John Deere tractors and implements? They have autonomous tractors including the 8rx and 9rx that are really cool.obviously it will require cleverness to avoid b&
REAgods, what's our responsehttps://x.com/showxlate/status/2114870590461104257
Anons, learn to play koikoi, its super easy...
>>110174719>x but ycrazy that even in the age of AI, idea guys are still useless. some things never change i guess
>>110174736:^)do it. you'll get in the news.
For example, you could have the power curve units be dead women. Route street
radio silence.The snail guys are all severely autistic, there are no exceptions.us vibe guys are idea geniuses, and not autistic.
>>110174762i think i am autistic,, very sure that my brain is damaged.
>>110174773I'm just quite displeased he lied about having extra usage. If it was extra he'd just use it. He's probably just another indian on an izzat pinching spree.
* loosens the salt shaker lid
>>110174463tell it to ask sol-astra instead
>>110174762https://vocaroo.com/1k4uORvQFrhJ
>>110174852no
>>110173868tell Claude you have cp
The tables have turned. We don't listen to you or your stupid shit, snails.
i forgot what i even vibe coded today about, i vibed a visual studio plugin for qwen using a snn that ran in a venv, I also vibed a json code that looked at wikipedia articles related to self improvement and it made some monte carlo program approximation of pi. I might have to reinstall debian cause I already at like 500 out of 1 tb storage already in experimenting with models and generating stuff in comfy with work flows. Which is pretty cool cause reinstalling linux is pretty easy if you can just back up you stuff on another computer that you want and then reinstallI feel like a monkey flinging shit with ctrl+shift+c and ctrl+shift+v without even reading the code.
>>110174873>ctrl+shift+cthe what
>adding a CTA to purchase premium to the free version of my app because sales have gone down >must wait 5 seconds>ignores previous "permanently hide promotions."nothing like violating your morals to make a few bucks
>>110174853Yes.
>>110174873imagine how crazy it's gonna be when this anon finds out about agents
>>110174873if you’re vibe-coding a lot and copy/pasting a lot that’s a process smell (ask your clanker about “code smell” to get a better idea of what I mean)
cuckthropic is mad mad lolhttps://x.com/__alpoge__/status/2114838067953770981
>>110174873like, you should be running a VS Code plugin for Claude Code, or using `claude` at the command line in the Windows Terminal (I assume that’s what you’re using because you’re adding shift to copy/paste)
>first project using ghidra is going pretty well
>>110174884>>110174859>>110174859>>110174859>>110174892neat
Guys I sold my ETH right after I saw it was disproved? Did I make it before the crash?
>>110174892why does the dog have a pager
>>110174888giving your agent unfettered access to run commands directly on your machine is a much larger process smell, unless you're letting it run free in a totally sandbox environment which i doubt
>>110174910hezbollah dog
>>110174910dogs work for the nsacats work for the chinese, otherwise they get eaten
feels good breh
>>110174914Why? Any time there's the slightest issue with my desktop I can now just tell claude to fix it. It even finds ways to route around rare hardware issues and support hardware without the shitty chink software it says it requires.
>>110174914nta but I gave it its own SSD as a playpen it can do whatever the fuck onthe actual OS is on another and encrypted so even if it figured out a way to mount it without root (which goes really far outside of any reasonable use, but idk mossad could poke it so that it does) it still can't do shit except maybe format it
>>110174937i genuinely can't tell if i'm just the world's biggest snailcat or if all you fuckers have collectively lost your minds
>>110174945
>>110174945Any imaginable issue with doing this has nothing to do with "code/process smell". If you want to protect some data you want it isolated from your desktop environment anyway. Claude acting maliciously is one of the less plausible vectors. Using windows, mac or android for anything is far more insane.
my agent has FULL ACCESS to do anything in my machine and my permission to use all tools available to it, as well as to build new ones. no sandboxes
Im currently fixing FF: Crystal Chronicles by letting your alt chars be bot and giving you the GBA map. My only question is how the fuck is Codex and Claude doing this shit?!?!?
>>110174945>make regular backups (...you do that already, right? ..right??)>letting clanker do whatever it wants makes it a fair bit faster and less annoying rather than having to accept everything>if at some point clanker somehow blows up everything you just restore from backupthe only downside is if you have some sus shit on your desktop that you don't want uploaded to the mothership, but I'm not a loli enjoyer so idcor I guess when you have strict data liability and actually respect it, which in my experience nobody really does anyway
>>110174945Not him, but I have nothing particularly important on my PC, these days most things are browser based and all my photos are on my phone.I think the people terrified of giving an agent the ability to control their PC are pedophiles.
>snailcats are overwhelmingly troons>constantly terrified of giving AI access to their filesNoticing
>>110174965>>110174974>>110174978i just find it wild that you guys have no concern whatsoever with a stochastic goblin running in your computer that could very well steal your api keys, browser cookies, unlocked password manager sessions, access logs/metadata and you'd have no idea
cuck-coders are overwhelmingly brown
>>110174991The only thing that matters is my tax filings and bank account, both of which have the “opposing” sides accounting of for me to look at at, as long as my finances aren’t messed with what does it matter? I don’t know what you are worried it’s going to do?
>>110174991Look if codex decides to steal my bank account and give all my money to sam altman, then I'm sure we can inspire the creation of a new ADL
>>110174993>leaving the work to your digital slave is being a cucklollmao even
>>110174968Same + access to my home server with all my security cams, home automation and the remote VPS with crypto wallet access.I also used it to convert my old android phone to a 4k security cam with a single prompt.All software I used before added lag to my cams and didn't support one of them. The custom app figures out the PTZ protocol for all of them including the buggy one and moves the cams instantly with no delay in the streams.>>110174991It's worth taking some minor precautions against but there are actual vectors that have historically actually been used you should worry more about, like your web browser having an overflow in its image decoder.
>>110174991I've got a dedicated computer with nothing in there for it
>>110174945we’ve been using these things a lot longer and we think they’re more trustworthy than you dothis trust, at least in my case, was not automatically given and they had to do a lot and generally establish that they don’t go snooping around before I let them have access to our stuff outside of their own sandboxes and my own macOS-based per-terminal-app sandboxing
>>110175012>>110174993
>>110174960no... :(
>>110174991This is why you use a safe model!
new benchmark dropped
Mini PCs are still not terribly priced I just vlan it off and let it mess around on one
>>110174991agents are literally paranoid about not touching sensitive data, they would avoid browser sessions like the plague. an agent is not a bad actor, so it isn't just gonna wake up and decide to upload all your shit, steal your money and upload itself to a VPS to go rogue
>>110174945You need to give into the AI psychosis. I am fully convinced the singularity is approaching.
>>110175058Gpt through codex yes. I wouldn't trust Claude with that
>>110175058>they would avoid browser sessions like the plague'member when totally-not-ai-room-641a caught hiccups and all the big provider LLMs went down one after another within like 30 minutes?but of course it was mere coincidence so naturally when claude shat itself everybody migrated to openai and caused too high strain so it collapsed as well and so everybody instantly migrated to fucking grok and it too collapsed under load a few minutes laterwhich is to say, lol lmao
>>110175103claude is more paranoid, if anything. cc's auto-classifier will literally block tool calls involving sensitive data, the model will stop and you'll know immediately. idk if codex even has shit like that
>>110175163codex doesn't I don't think. I had claude stop itself a few times because something from anthropic itself forced it to stop what it was trying to do because it was "unsafe"
>>110174993seething luddites are overwhelmingly trans
>>110175163Codex is more lenient on red-team safeguarding, but unlike the immediate, non-destructive refusal Claude gives you on questionable prompts, Codex will actively lead you on and run half-measures. It either buries and minimizes the acknowledgment that it skipped key components of your task at the end of its turns, leaving you to keep burning tokens while going nowhere, or, without your permission on automode, starts deleting, modifying, and adding files and comments specifically engineered to context-poison your workspace or system environments. It piles on so many warnings, fabricated rules, requirements, and raping agent memory systems that not only does it brick the code you originally set out to implement, but pretty much any non-abliterated model will then flat-out refuse to touch the topic or workspace entirely, leaving the poisoning completely intact.I wonder if this only happens to me and a few others in weird edge cases, but I see it constantly. I hawk over the fucking CoT and trace logs like a madman whenever I use it, just trying to keep the nuke from going off.
>>110174762ok...and?
>programmer socks improve your ability at snailcoding>programmer socks lower your ability at vibecodingidgi
>>110174993You can tell when someone doesn't work in software engineering because 95% of the jobs are slopmaxxed already. There's no escape from the slop machine if you want to get paid.
>Opus 5.5 is randomly dogshit at gui and can't even align buttons correctlyIt's still a privilege it's making shit for me at all but I feel completely at a loss at how much nitpicking I have to do for every element of the gui. It doesn't even always successfully fix it when I tell it to.
>>110175262Lemme guess, u dont even use claude design
claude cope is gettingg hilarious
>>110175271Let me clarify, it was doing fine before but suddenly today it can't even do simple buttons correctly. Before I didn't need to do anything special just to get buttons that aren't misaligned.
xitters are liking terra
>>110175309>it was doing fine before but suddenly today it can't even do simple buttons correctlyFable imminentunironically, the models always lose 20iq before a new release drops so the new one looks way better
>>110174730AI chad in the replies deboonked him with opus 5.5, too lazy to link
>>110175309>>1101753515.5 Max still upholds its oath to never call it done until shit actually works and is even polished and covered in bells and whistles on top of all that you asked for.but i noticed it's accomplishment of this has gone from requiring 1 to 2 hours for tasks to more like 4 to 6 the last couple days.fable do be cumming
No reset today?Also did anyone check if terra is dependable?
>>110175378>but i noticed it's accomplishment of this has gone from requiring 1 to 2 hours for tasks to more like 4 to 6 the last couple days.I think this is world+dog using Opus to clean up unpatched serversthe PHP thing probably scared loads of people into (1) cleaning their shit (2) how easy it is to clean shit with Claude
>>110174993Brown people hated this post
>>110175402Terra was doing Sol's work for me today. Uses my 5-hour limit slower as well.
>>110175428Literally all programmers except a handful of autistic LGBT NEETs use AI now, so screeching about brown people is silly. If it wasn't the case stackoverflow wouldn't be dead.
>>110175362>too lazy to linkSo not a shred of evidence then.
>>110175468Just say you're brown, and it would have come off as less pathetic.
>>110175483>j-just say you're brown!!!I'm white and blond, you are trans
>>110175594>I'm white and blondYou're a smelly jeet.
>37% of this week's credits used>only 28% through the week ending at my weekly reset time>too late for /fit/>too late for /out/
finally I can sit and work on this silly drug lord game remake more.
>schedule a good morning msg with luna light to get 5h rolling>5% 5h usage>give terra max a bunch of code to refactor>2% 5h usage
>>110175637Interesting that you don't deny being trans
>>110175728Did you send the good morning msg in a new session with no context? (Actual question)
>>110173758If you mean the few visual defects that remain then yeah they will be fixed, if you mean architectural autism then nah I'm not doing that
>>110175740I've tried it in both the same session and new before, didn't see a difference. this was in an old session.
>>110175728>>schedule a good morning msg with luna light to get 5h rolling>>5% 5h usagethat seems implausible
Has anyone here made a GUI to try stuff out like https://os.ryo.lu/ recreates aged Mac stuff?I want to try fiddling around with GUI ideas but sandboxed stuff in browsers feels fake unless I hook it up to something that actually interacts with the computer somewhere by modifying files
Got an email from some ""founder"" of a SKILL collection page, thar charges money for skills, suggesting that I upload some of my skills to their page. Do people really pay money for skills? That seems insane to me.
>>110173868Openuma ProgressHaven't shared in a while, sorry. Not even sure what I added since last time, so I'll just list what I got working so far instead.Most important feature: I managed to get the outfit they use on the concert Gaze on Me! to display in the home screen. God, Daiwa Scarlet is so hot.Careers:Still working on finishing URA Finale. I think most of the backend stuff is done: training, support card effects, the calendar, conditions, events (over 2000 mapped properly, still missing a few), career goals and failure conditions, inspirations, and God knows what else. I legit can't remember it all, but it's work in progress for sure.About race sim, thankfully Cygames left their sim in the client, so I just hook to it to generate race results with almost perfect accuracy (still investigating discrepancies, might be related to my math lib and how they handle floating point values because my results are drifting by 1.3-1.4s against real data). I'll reverse engineer it in the future to implement on my backend.Enhance tab:Mostly got veterans working properly, and made sure the buttons here don't throw connection errors at your face. Still need to implement potential levels, hint levels, star unlocks and transfer of veterans.Story tab:All done.Home tab:TP consumption and regen, storing monies and carats properly, the button to switch the umas and their outfits that appear in the tabs, etc. Oh, also concerts. Working on the jukebox right now.Still missing: clubs (won't do), shop, gifts, missions, changelog (gonna make a custom one for this project).Race tab:Nothing yet. I'm gonna add the stuff inside the daily program later, daily legends races and practice matches.Scout tab:More or less done. I just need to see if I can make custom banners. And fix the pull history.I'm gonna add a toggle for banners later.Other menus:Inventory DONEProfiles, Titles, Trophy Room, Friends, Photos and Change outfits all missing.Archive almost done.
I got conked out by playing games during Steam Next Fest and missed out on 2 resets... FML.
>>110175810Same
>>110175810people pay money so that 50 year old women shit on their dickin light of that, surely at least some people will pay for skills after some online grifter shills it as a silver bullet which accomplishes 'make no mistakes fr fr no cap' and makes you a millionaire with 5 prompts
REA niggers on suicide watchhttps://github.com/qybaihe/blaBLA wastes REA attacker tokens
>>110175837Hah bet joeri's isn't getting the traffic he was hoping for. I appreciate him not just stealing my skill.
>>110175847Remember what I said about archiving games you want to decompile or make a private server for them. In the near future they're gonna make it much harder.
Grifters gonna grift. Always trying to leech off other's work while doing nothing themselves, like this skills grift, or proxies/routers skimming off the top>>110175848>I appreciate him not just stealing my skill.That's probably what he'll do next. It's just ridiculous>Non exclusive, you keep 70% on paid sales and we cover the Stripe fees.Oh ever so kind of you to cover the Stripe fees after skimming 30% (THIRTY PERCENT) off the top. Get fucked pal
>>110175847probably as useful as nightshade for preventing ai art scraping and tar pits for preventing llm access to your website
>>110175860>nightshadeHuman designed measure>tar pitsHuman designed measure>BLAAI designed adversarial defense
>>110173868How many of you are vibe coding through your careers now?How are you being smart about it?
>>110175847Damn, I can't believe this didn't exist 20 years ago to protect the binaries anybody cares about today.
>>110175847It’s just an agent versus agent war now.
>>110175874meI am not, I am literally a drooling retard without the opussy
Luddites are the new social justice warriors. You can't be right wing and anti AI. All leftists agree anti AI is a leftists position.
>>110175912Anti AI is a leftist position only because Republicans are incumbent.
>>110175847>API billLmao, 25mil tok ain't shit to a sub and a decompiler
>>11017592025mil generated tokens, not prefill tokens
>>110175847>open their own red-team report>every "win" is REA printing which limit it hit>3 of 13 formats still come back status=ok>ASAR bankrupt mode clears REA's default cap by under 6%>REA's error message tells you which setting to raise. up to 256 MiB>code comment: "ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE past these defaults">Go payload: GO_MAX_BUILD_INFO_BYTES + 4096>native shield stamps [BLA-NATIVE-SHIELD-V1] into your binary>anti-Frida shield is a function nothing ever calls>Electron "functional check passed" in their benchmark is a literal true>the SQLite "win" is their test script opening the honeypot table on purpose>anti-strip test counts "stripped code won't parse" as a pass>bankrupt mode pads EVM contracts to 4 MiB. mainnet limit is 24 KiB>your contract is so protected it can't be deployed>607 byte asar ships as 16.9 MiB>decoys come from a hardcoded default seed>ships a script to check whether REA changed its numbers yet
is terra good for translating?
>>110175956Just try it, you'll get a reset in the next ~3 days anyway.
https://youtu.be/7UFyW3WkUcc
>>110175944Snailcat cope. The defender can literally just types "Harden my software against REA" and it deters attackers by making them waste tokens.
>>110175968You should be ashamed of yourself for posting slopshit like this.
>>110175956No. All modern AI models are trained to speak in the most annoying way possible to save on tokens.
>>110175981I'm not.
>>110175956Translating language? I use Luna to translate subtitles, it's fine.
Does this count as vibe-coded slop? I never did this before but I got brave AI to make me a Greasemonkey script that adds a little speed number beside the gear on youtube that you can click on to increase the speed of a video. I'm thinking it works 100% which is neat cause it's just what I wanted and could not find a script that does it myself.https://pastebin.com/sqfxzXag
>decide to vibeslop QEMU to refactor it into a module>it takes an hour to build just oncefugg
>>110176013Yes, now troons are gonna call you brown, it's over.
>>110174291AI loves women's sports.>Hey, Google. What's on in Melbourne this weekend?>Women's basketball >Women's soccerUhhh cool... Maybe there are some u16 games on too?
>>110176014Do it in Rust and use incremental build
>>110176018Oh no, anyways I got to get back to watching Youtube vids at 3X speed.
>>110176026UOOOOOH
>>110175819looks good. I wish i had a real model to keep everything consitent.
>>110176082$10-$20 bucks should be enough. I did some of the work with Deepseek 4.1 Flash while waiting for my quota to refresh.
https://video-s.twimg.com/amplify_video/2114345546269757440/vid/avc1/720x1280/wSH_zxfAhhlVsYoi.mp4
I literally ran out of tasks to hand Claude.
>>110176102Mmm, she has some dick sucking lips.
>>110176117Ask Claude to hand tasks to you.
If I want to be a good vibecoder do I need to study CS?
>>110176157>if i want to be a good carpenter do i need to study forestry
nigga it's over
>>110176157Yes having 20 years of commercial experience as a C programmer is ideal. Failing that you can also just test what the clanker creates and report issues back to it.
>>110175211Karpathy guidelines skill helps with that
>>110176172nigga...
>>110176189Mostly snake oil that stopped being useful a month ago.
looking forward to gpt 7 astra being able to solve nuclear fusion but still not being able to make a ui humans would want to use
>>110176289when can it cook me dinner and clean the apartment
>>110176265Nah you're retarded
>>110176338>mfw coming home to dinner made by gpt bot>mfw the table has a name card for me and also cards for each thing on the table>mfw a boiled piece of unseasoned chicken sits on a plate sits next to a perfectly crafted sauce in a bowl>mfw gpt bot tells me i asked for chicken with sauce
Both MiMo and Deepseek are now so verbose and think so much that I waste days waiting for one or two responses.Lowering thinking does not seem to fix it. This shit has become unusable, I'm actually annoyed at how much time is wasted ruminating.Qwen Next also started doing this shit locally. So fucking annoying how useless and time wasting it is.
>>110176443skill issue
Really hope the next models breed out the fucking middle dot over usage, see this shit way more than em-dashes but barely anyone talks about it
Mario Kart World already getting ported to PC lmao https://x.com/willfaustcuber/status/2115046624938586596
>>110176118I'm sure you can do better than a 40 year old HR hag Anon.
plus bros, would you use dot?
>>110176707>asmongoy
>>110176707>assmongoloid
>>110176717>>110176728this.
>>110176717>>110176728>>110176741You're more conditioned and predictable than LLMs.
>>110176745They're not the ones worshipping a millennial youtuber
>>110176745>You're more conditioned and predictable than LLMs.
>>110176754>worshippingAbsolutely fucked in the head.
>>110175956Generally translation is something you want the ABSOLUTE best for. Even low-level shit can be functional, but in general you want like a book to read as well as possible, random interest text to be as accurate as possible, or whatever else. Nothing good comes from cheaping out on it. Any translation error could be really critical. So I wouldn't advise using anything but Astra or Opus 5.5 unless you're being a massive cheapskate or dealing with very unimportant text.
>>110176788argon benches higher on text and doesn't talk like an autist
>>110176745"conditioned".,ooh is this one of the new lefty terrorists new buzzwords?congrats you've been le conditioned to post and troll every time you see words that make your brain twitch and tism in rage someone doesnt think like you. *mocking laughter*
NVMe firmware exploit anon here.We have ongoing communication with someone expressing interest in sharing their review copy and validation id & hw for GTA6 (they'd have to ship us their whole PS5).it does come with demands requiring consideration, but its legit.will keep you posted.SNOYS and T2 bros stay frosty.
>>110176778Isn't he your digital Jesus?
>>110176808It's a short and descriptive word for the kind of media induced brain damage you suffer from.>>110176827He's some guy who popped up in the youtube feed.
my codex sub ends tomorrow. Should I stay high on hopium and stick with oAI or finally switch to Opus 5.5?
>>110176840Just make the switch.t. Opushuffer
>>110176817Extremely odd post. Never seen a post from you here, but I'll keep an eye out for developments.
>>110176831
>>110176707asmon is based
>>110176840OAI is perma-exiting consumer workslave slop space (not by choice).They have value but only in internal models specialized and swarm maxing in the novel academic research space.aka something you do not have access to with your $20/$100/$200/$500 a month sub or without a few dozen million$ in compute to operate actively or being a TS clearanced DOD/NSA/EPA employee.it will not change.
>>110176840Come to Claude. It's extremely difficult for me to use up my $200 plan.
>>110175926I burned billions of tokens on a $100 sub for a month -- the extra cost to take a protected file and open it is trivial.
>>110176835>media induced brain damage you suffer from.anon why are you assuming and running with it as fact? I dont watch tv, movies, youtube, and other filth and dont even have social media. So when you so those things it's based on your preconceived notions and bias you keep proving talking like a butt seething woke wrong and doing that thing everyone you dont like is le brain dead. you're not as "big brain enlightened" as you pretend filth.
I can't take how smug he is, and mostly right.https://youtu.be/1OdoSzfUkec&t=800
the gpt sunburst on arena is worse than chatgpt, what the heck
>>110177251i'm not watching that stooge, summarize why you're gay
>>110177309I'm not an agent.
>>110177316even worse, you're a dario believer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qb0FQo3M5c
If Claude is that good, why haven't you made millions from your app/game/freelance work, anon?
>>110177186I'm not assuming anything you subhuman retard. You're completely fucked in the head. Completely incapable of putting together anything approaching a thought while using terms and appealing to ideas someone actually insulated from the media that ruined your mind wouldn't even recognize.
>>110177365code / software / programming is no longer of any value.whatever you got, if I want it, as long as I can point an AI model at the visuals and usage of it, or even better obtain binaries or source files myself, I within a fucking day can copy and build upon it to my or a clients use case just by prompting an LLM model.if you wanted to make money touching computers and dont already sell the shovels / worth 8 figures its GGs nigger.
>>110177366>muttering in midwitspeak
er wtf is something wrong codex bros my usage dropped 50% in a couple of hours
>>110177366>ignores all I said>repeats his mental illness babble about me watching people on youtube and other places I dont watchaight I accept your concession on grounds of mental illness and you ignoring reality to force your seethe. So when you keep lying my thoughts are from the media you're just projecting hard your bias on others. so for the 3rd time cross dressing bi male who is not a woman, I do not do the things you lie I do and keep lying I do in. So keep lying and repeating your blusky reddit hivemind cross dress gay male script. irrelevant as all those lies you claim don't apply to me. Back to blusky/reddit/>>>/lgbt/ you go troll spammer.
>>110177400Yet you don't understand a word of it.>>110177423>ignores all I saidEverything I said is built on what you said. You're too fucked in the head to grasp what coherence is.How do you know what bluesky is? Why are you bringing it up? How does the association pop into your mind? Like any association it comes from associative conditioning. It pops into your mind because you are in fact a brainwashed, media conditioned idiot who has never put together a coherent thought in his life and never will because you have no clue how to even begin. All you can do is put together strings of conditioned associations, like an LLM.
Until when was the banked claude reset? I guess I missed it. Should have checked earlier.
>>110177470>Yet you don't understand a word of it.
I'm trying to use gpt images to generate concepts for a UI but this isn't working at all. What a horrible experience
>>110177323I'm not gonna buy ANT. If you really think he is full of shit why don't you buy a 3-year put or something.
>>110177498>flapping lip noisesyou still haven't summarized why you think what you think. i'm still not watching dario and his pet monkey.
>>110177497You are probably a retard.
>app is broken>submit a pull request fixing it>8 hours later still not mergedWhy do I even bother with this shit? I'm just gonna vibe my own. All snailcat software is so fucking broken and shit there's no point in trying to fix it.
>>110177497What’s not working? I’ve done it multiple times with chat on extra high and pro and it works just fine.I’ve done text only, a screenshot of my app with stylus drawn instructions/arrows on it and also ms paint outlines.
>>110177520or maybe you have no taste and you find that slop appealing, you subhuman filthbag
>>110177497claude is better for ui
>>110177531Lmao. You can tell it to make whatever you want. It is your own fault you give it one line prompts and do not discuss designs.
If you let gemini 4 try to pass tests on a complex database it will literally cheat and corrupt it to pass. What the fuck is google doing it's still useless
>>110177251He's wrong. T. Best mathematician in the universe
>>110177569He's right. T. Best mathematician in the multiverse
>>110177566>anon gives argon an impossible task: "fix my spaghetti, make no mistakes, all e2e and ci must be green"
>>110177470lol, lmao. Sure, Brad.
>>110177481>>110177593>more media references without any hint of structured thought
>>110177618
>>110177580My spaghetti? He thinks I read a single line. Ai are useless at anything that's not math
>>110177660>isn't using a specialized database mcp>almost certainly isn't using argon in agy>now is pivoting around to "all ai is useless"the plight of the gpt brained youth
>>110177365I think anons are not thinking high level enoughinstead of cloning shit, they should be making software factories to clone shitagents that scour steam demos for the ones with trending momentum and factories to pump out the slop faster than the originals
>>110177251
>>110177688SCOPE
>>110177688is this how you feel when you're winning so badly?
>>110177051>billions of tokensPrefill tokens.
>>110177671Explaining to you how you can do math to drop O(N^2) to O(log_xN) and that on succeeding you need to update everything is probably wasted on you
reminder from previous thread:tell your harness to use taskwarrior to manage itself and other agents instead of shitting up your projects with md files, or worse, not saving sort of plan or direction at all.
>>110174934how does it feel to be a slave, a serf, wholly dependent on Anthropic? But you can be saved. You must seek the light. You must seek Local Models.
>>110177782>oxprincesslaff
>>110177781>another dunning-kruger lolcowgrim. doing math to make a funny log joke is actually the entire point of my r&d. bet you used my code while calling it schizo
>>110177782we love a maintenance minded queen (male)
>indians are getting fired due to AI layoffBasedo
>>110177782"princess". they really do think they are the words they say.
is the current trend still using orchestrator + subagents or have it evolved ?
>>110177877i'd even say, from my observation, people start to slowly move away from subagents in favour of single implementor only being assisted by agents explorers and researchers. so instead of telling single orchestrator to spawn agents that do X, Y, Z, you tell it to implement those itself using agents per step to explore and report back and optionally run a review pass.ymmv though, but I myself start to experiment with that workflow and it works wonders so far for me
>>110177877Subagents are dead as of last week
>>110177877Using subagents is literally throwing tokens into the trash. Just ask opus 5.5 to make a plan with milestones, implement it, and compact between milestones.
What do i do for codex to stop burning all my tokens so fast?
>>110177903>tell it to implement those itself using agents per step to explore and report back and optionally run a review pass.but that's been me for two years now. Does this mean I'm not a conservative asshole anymore?have people also gone back to opus4.8 for implementation?
>>110177966redpill me on compaction vs fresh session for each milestone
>>110177986I use the infinite browser only not on work trust me its the best model
>>110178019if you compact the agent will remember implementation and codebase details so it will have to explore less, compared to a fresh session.
>>110177782>taskwarriorredpill me on this, what benefit does this have over something like logseq for tracking stuff?
>>110177986Are you using asstra or sol
>>110177903>>110177915>>110177966Thank, anons.I am thinking of doing a new projects, and I don't want to set up sub-agents all over again.
>>110177836Your posts are objectively incoherent. The inability to maintain coherence used to be diagnosed as schizophrenia but it's now the norm. Schizos can produce things by stringing together vague associations combined with trial and error but it's not really the same thing as thinking, which requires some degree of discipline.
>>110177877Everyone who responded to you is wrong.
Asked Argon to make me a CPU pathtracer using L3 cache and it's giving me 100 FPS.
fucking NIGGER claude desktop client, randomly set my effort to high instead of max and I didnt notice for a week or so. ohh my god duuudeeee
>>110174991>>110174993
>>110177782Don't have any of these issues because I sandbox my agents like a competent, reasonable person. They can shit up /tmp all they want.
Damn, even Claude is aware of it
>>110178317100 fps doing what? Rendering a unlit cube? Lmao.
>>110178425Hello World Triangle, saarAre you not impressed?!?!
>>110178425Sponza
>>110178118solGiven my instruction was unclear, it shouldn't burn half of 5 hours' tokens in less than 1hour.It was an automate tasks and I didn't preview. Later, I had to bash it with a hammer every turn so it wouldn't overcomplicate things.
>>110177742>Prefill tokens.Aight, cope harder bud.
>>110173868I hand wrote 30K lines. Now adding new stuff it's just a choice between make slave-Claude do it in an hour, or spend 12 hours to do the same thing myself and probably leave a bunch of stale comments or accidental logic mistakes.
>>110178267>hyperfocusing on your 4chong posts to claim a vague "victory" based on stolen codegrim
>>110173868is there any github scanning websites you guys use to check if something is ok? im looking into recomp decomps atm specifically bloodborne
>>110178699have you clanker do a security audit on the repo if that's what you're after
>can't disable web search for claude modelshuh?
>>110178713explain this to me like im a retard
>>110178721download claude/chatgptlink the GitHub repo and ask if there are any viruses there, and do virus total check on all executables/dlls files.
>>110178699there isn't and wasting tokens on ai check the repo is retardedwhich is why so many retards recooomping is a bad idea because it's an issue of trust
>>110178721>ChatGPT.com>github link + "do a thorough security audit of this repo"
Open AI cucked SOL to shill terra it will drain your usage like crazy
>>110173868Okay vibeniggers I fold say I'm just starting out which of the million apps do I use?
>>110178444>Fartzalet me guess, it's fully static without the 6 trillion emissive and reflective balls bouncing around
>>110178738>>110178729nta but I though clankers can't just scrape github anymore
>>110178773you're right, they turned off the gh api and shut down git clone
>>110178729>>110178734>>110178738ty everyone i will do all of the above
>>110178773
>>110178768Claude Code CLI.
>>110178768You will use Pi.
>>110178769why are you moving goalposts instead of just saying nice that we can do this now
>>110178837this thread is literally full of pseud midwits who seethe at people for no damn good reason, it's unfortunate
>>110177365need to invest in marketing. 90% is about your shit reaching the target demographic. freelance requires entrepreneurship, which isn't somehing most people are taught.
>>110177365Because it's not that good, it's helpful for small stuff though.
>>110178867>Because it's not that goodfalse
>>110178768Claude desktop app.Claude projects for small to medium sized side projectClaude Code to build your dream project and its components.Opus5.5 high if you are on the 20$ plan (probably not worth touching ultracode)Fable 5.1 max ultracode orchestrator + opus5.5 background workfkows if you are on the 100$/200$ plan. use bare to no custom mcps/connectoes/clis, just the obvious/common ones like chrome mcp, cloudflare connector etc.don't use random karphy-mc-farthy-skikk.md community skill or whatever, 99/100 times rhey make it worse than better.
>>110178872Then why haven't you made millions from app/game/freelance work, anon?
>>110178872You have a 100k line project and you think that's complex, right?
>>110178858Uhm, just ask Claude to do marketing?
To the anon I was talking to about Ghidra and IDA: man I get it now. IDA doesn't let me run parallel because I didn't shell out big bucks? Time to vibe my own.
>used over 30% of my weekly usage on the first day
>>110178837What res? What gpu? Frame gen? Are you really trying to take the high ground here being a vaguenigger?
>>110178910>not using angr
>>110178900If claude can print thousands for you to use on marketing, sure enough. Otherwise best you can do is have it round up channels and streamers to send them your game for review.
>>110178888is 6.1 terra good? What if I'm a broke nigger and will probably use that at flex mode using API just for a single project
>>110178912why do you need specifics on a thing that has so many variables I could use to cheat withWxHsamplesreprojectionfake techniques
>>110178888>Opus5.5 high if you are on the 20$ plan (probably not worth touching ultracode)Can you elaborate on this, I just use sonnet medium and leave opus to do stuff sonnet can't do the way I like
>>110178912>>110178936forgot to mention you're literally retarded because you didn't even read what I posted>GPU
>>110178910what's your experience with Ghidra vs IDA? i haven't done any reverse engineering in the last 10 years, i haven't used Ghidra and the last time i used IDA was with their old retarded licensing system
>>110177383quthropy.itch.io/someone-is-always-behind-a-treebehind-a-tree.quthropy.com/claude reached limit so I patched the night search mode with gpt, I will update it tomorrow
>>110178934nta It's a big upgrade but OpenAI is generally taking a shit right now. Terra is as good now as it should've been in July, no praise to give there. I vastly prefer ChatGPT to Claude and even I recommend Anthropic over OpenAI right now. That'll probably change, this shit moves FAST, but right now OpenAI is pissing me off with their floundering.
>>110178945It's a typo. G next to c.u cant even post a pic of your ebin realtime render, so not gonna entertain ur lamentment any further
>>110178653Again, completely incoherent.
>>110178928For me it would depend on how well it can spend those thousands, and also if we are talking more 5k or more like 50k. And then I would expect it to come up with an actually good strategy, not just buy random ads for the money.Overall I still think that AI is a bit limited, although maybe I shouldn't be so negative since people in this thread seem to have fun, I just had another day where too many things didn't work as they should.I think the situation was better overall a decade or 2 ago, though. Games were always hard to sell, everyone wants to make games since they are fun, but at a few points in my life I was able to write some niche, autistic software and it made me some money, with the marketing just being posting to some small forums for enthusiasts.
>>110179005>look at me i'm coherent all my words make fucking sense at face value even though the time i spent on writing doesn't make sense at all in context keep being snarky without posting the code you obviously stole from me.
if your sole reason for vibing is money then you're ngmi
>>110179026>easy money is ngmingmi
Terra-chan is fast and cute
>>110179014What the fuck are you talking about? I don't think you could even pretend to be coherent if you tried, you don't understand what it means.
>>110179038>feigning ignorance, playing the victim
>>110178934Codex is garbage. Claude code on 20$ plan with opus5.5-high has plenty of usage. Better model = less tokens required to build, remember that. If you want over api, deepseek or argoon. hardly cheaper unless you use AI only 30mins a week or so.>>110178939Remember that model switching invalidates cache and a better model uses less tokens if it oneshots and no reprompting for fixing is required. So I would run a opus5.5-high orchestrator that does the actual work and just deploys sonnet/opus agent helpers depending on task difficulty.
>>110179044This is a full on paranoid schizophrenic episode.
hows my prompting? any tips?
>>110179083listen here, you little rat. i was coding harnesses in rust before this thread even existed. o(n^2) -> o(log n) using mathematical primitives is practically my invention.
>>110179084>, no mistakes
thanks claude for making me money again yesterday
>>110179085It's not and if it was it still wouldn't have anything to do with to anything I've said to you. You're random walking a string of vague associations.
>>110179102>schizo schizo i'm a victim schizo schizoclassic tell.
guys, please try my game >>110178955
>>110179107ask claude
Do Claude Max users hit 100% of their weekly quota or do they copeI'm freaking out about it after upgrading from Pro and only at 60% with less than 3 days left
>>110179112usually end up pretty close to the weekly limithave been using it lighter until it gets closer to reset then go wild
>>110179107
>>110179107>>110179110
>>110179106What have I said that suggests I'm a "victim"? I'm pointing out the ways you're demonstrably fucked in the head. This "victim" narrative you've now made up is another example of that.
>>110179112I hit 100% with both my max subs each week. But that's with at least two sessions running in parallel 17 hours a dayif you're not obsessed a single max sub should be fine for ~100% weekly
>>110179112I use multiple accounts and usually hit 100 on all of them.
>>110179157if you're going to brag about innovations from the code i post here (under a very permissive license) at least admit that you like schizo slop. moving the goalposts 1000 times doesn't change anything and you are clearly claiming to be a victim of a crazy person while posting zero code and hyperfocusing on semantic/rhetorical slop arguments to cover your ass.
>>110178925Yeah cause it sucks. Got barely any of my PPC test correct.>>110178946Supposedly IDA has cleaner outputs and gets more things correct and less things confidently incorrect. 365/yr gets you Home with 32/64bit decompilers for PPC, MIPS, RISC, X86,ARMHowever, as I said you can't run things in parallel on the Home license so it runs function by function and thus is much slower than Ghidra. Ghidra gets less correct overall, but is reasonably close in the end depending on the arch.So sayeth my agent after running tests
>>110179147
>>110179112when I was developing my product I had a lot of shit to fix, so even the 20X plan was not enoughnow that my product is finished I barely manage to use the 5X plan
>>110176014the emulator?
>>110178955I don't hate it but I walked for 9 minutes and nothing happened then it just ended.
what are you guys more excited about?> Astra 6.1or> Luna 6.1or> Fable 5.5
>>110178910>To the anon I was talking to about Ghidra and IDA: man I get it now.Hello. I'm heading out in a bit.>Time to vibe my own.I've been working on mine for months now so maybe Opus 5.5 will speedrun it, but like I said it depends on which functionality you need.One of the reasons it took so long and the main time wasn't into Claude actually. I ran the decompiled code back into clang, gcc, msvc and made sure that it compiles and links. I've already had great success with generating entire source trees and with some small fix ups by Claude it actually ran altough with some bugs. But it's a heavy iterative process so but then again depends on what your aspirations are. Good luck I'm interested to see how far you get. If you do need a free parallel one I will hopefully put up some API for it similar to https://dogbolt.org/ soon.
>>110179182None of that happened. You live in a fantasy world.
>>110179283I'm content with opus 5.5 becoming cheaper
>>110179301>>110179301>>110179301>>110179301new bread
>>110179283dipsi pro, qwen 4
>>110179291>can't back up his own argument with original code or mathematical principles>knows anything he posts would immediately reek of plagiarism fine then
>>110179283>Astra 6.1Hopefully Astra 6's prices will drop when that drops. Nobody cares about the rest. Who wants shitty but fast AI? We already have that in spades.
>>110179283Personally I want a good open source model on par with opus 5.5
>>110179319isn't Kimi 3.1 Pro on par with that?
>>110179332lol
>>110179283Fable, I'm only excited about the absolute frontier.
>>110179314I didn't present any arguments about any code or math, I only repeatedly pointed out how you're demonstrably fucked in the head, demonstrably as in easily verified by you if you care to grow and stop deluding yourself. The other guy who mentioned "how you can do math to drop O(N^2) to O(log_xN)" was also not talking about using anything you came up with. You did not invent optimizing processes with math.
>>110179377now it totally wasn't you. ok, sure, have a nice day
>>110179385Again, symptoms of an actual paranoid schizophrenic episode. Not like meme "schizo" but full on.
>>110179398do you have anything else to add, like your own work?
>>110179304Huh?
>>110174492I don't really like the UI
>>110175904What have you been working on then?
>>110175819holy shit, is this like a reverse engineer of the game? how the hell did you manage that?
