>>110194811
>Claude-induced schizophrenia

>>110194811
>Last night
>It picked the drug
>It picked the brain region
Three possibilities:
1. It had former knowledge of the acceptable drugs and suitable brain regions. No new knowledge has been gained.
2. It lucked out
3. Something wrong (drug or brain region) was picked and the long term effects on the mouse show the degree of failure.

>>110194843
option 4
It came up with a novel approach that works since it has seen all medical research ever

>>110194870
LLMs are just next token predictors, it can't come up with anything novel

>>110194870
thats not how creativity works, retard

>>110194870
That's option 2 unless you think doctor's with their vast medical knowledge can just inject you with anything chem cocktail they find and revolutionize medicine

>>110194879
>LLMs are just next token predictors,
Wrong
>it can't come up with anything novel
They literally came up with new math and disproved ETH among other novel things
>>110194881
That is literally how creativity works
Sorry anon but you have never had a genuinely new idea in your entire life without preprompting from another source
>>110194904
They can. They just get cucked by ethics
See stem cells

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>>110194811
Can it lobotomize me and|or turn me into an animal? I got 5k€.

>>110194944
>That is literally how creativity works
lol. no.
thats called plagiarism, if anything

>>110194944
>They can.
And how is that different from luck? Or do you believe that's the standard procedure for evidence-based medicine?

>>110194811
wow sounds like it's ready for production. let's have it perform some brain surgery on jewish and indian tech executives.

>>110194998
Educated guesses aren't luck
>>110194994
Yes anon literally all human progress is plagiarism
Do you think someone created a train from scratch? Everything in life is built on the shoulders and ideas of those who came before us

>>110194944
>came up with new math
Lmao no it didn't it just brute forced some computations spending 20M to solve a 1M problem kekw

>>110195038
>Your honor, I've injected the previously unknown cocktail of ten extremely deadly chemicals based on an educated guess, that some harmful chemicals can work wonders. How could I have known it'd kill all of my patients?

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>>110195001
>perform some brain surgery ...
Hey can we drop the requirements to at least team leads? I want to qualify

>>110195038
>t. Brainless hylic

>>110195038
what im saying is literally one of the foundations of information theory
you cannot gleam information from a system if the system doesnt contain it

but feel free to cope however you want with the fact that youre a worthless, un-creative, cargo cultist retard

>>110194944
>They literally came up with new math
Math = 1 formula
>disproved ETH among other novel things
Oh you mean the subexponential behavior shown if time grows to 'galactic' means (as per the press release)?

>>110195038
>Yes anon literally all human progress is plagiarism
Retard thinks knowledge was just willed into existence.

>>110195041
You don't even know what you are talking about it since it wasn't the 1m problem
And it literally created novel math
Go ask an ai to explain it to you like a 4 year old

>>110195068
>what im saying is literally one of the foundations of information theory
>you cannot gleam information from a system if the system doesnt contain it
Not true anymore
Ai is just that good
Did you not see the paper on its accuracy on xrays when it wasn't even shown the xrays kek

>>110195071
>And it literally created novel math
lol. nope.
imagine copying your worldview from reddit...

>>110194811
k, I'll let you know if I have a mouse with epilepsy.

>>110195081
>Ai is just that good
>Did you not see the paper on its accuracy on xrays when it wasn't even shown the xrays kek

do you have a stroke?
or maybe what youre telling me is that it regurgitates whats contained in its dataset.
like whats literally written on the tin?

>>110195070
>Math = 1 formula
Nope
Google it
>>110195086
Imagine being so dumb you didn't know about ETH
No human for another 80 years was going to crack ETH and yet a clanker has
Admit defeat meatbag

>>110194843
>1. It had former knowledge of the acceptable drugs and suitable brain regions. No new knowledge has been gained.
That's exactly what every brain surgeon does

>>110195096
https://www.reddit.com/r/BetterOffline/comments/1s8oz57/ai_models_can_outperform_radiographers_without/

>>110195111
>reddit
lmao. like i was saying

feel free to go back

>>110195099
imagine being so dumb that you worship a stats engine
post link i bet your eth thing hasnt been verified and its another "proof" thats gonna get retracted soon enough

>>110194843
>>110194870
Option 5:
They made up everything about this and nothing was actually conducted.

>>110195129
The guys who fucking made ETH are verifying it and so far agree with the clanker

>>110195099
Again, it's not novel. A human came up with the conjecture, OAI just wasted a bunch of VC to brute force a solution that still needs to be verified by a human

>>110195106
>What are studies?

>>110195099
Well you just said you didn't mean the Millennium problems in >>110195071. The ETH paper is just about one formula and that formula simply isn't relevant to use for how many trillions of years?

>>110195131
True, I forgot that one

>>110195139
post link

>>110195142
>The ETH paper is just about one formula and that formula simply isn't relevant to use for how many trillions of years?
ah, so this is why he doesnt post link
what a fag

>>110194811
Advanced Surgery robots already exist... wtf is this garbage.

>>110195174
Frontier labs are DESPERATELY BEGGING you to hold their bags!

>>110194811
I'd rather AI do surgery on me than some Indian doctor I can't understand, a black person that got their degree just for being black and probably wants me to die because I'm white, or a liberal white woman that'll kill me for "being a nazi".

But can it do surgery on a grape?

>>110195174
But this one works on his own. If you supply him with the meds. And the subject. And ensure a stable connection to the internet. All while costing more than a normal team of surgeons with thousands of combined hours of experience. After completely reworking all surgery rooms. Without the ability to conduct emergency procedures or helping their colleagues.

>>110195188
unironically ai could be pretty good at this shit and was used in diagnostics since a while now

its machine learning and computer vision though
theres zero reasons to use a large world model, or, even more hilariously, llms to accomplish that task

>>110194879
If you truly understood the technology you would know that this "next token prediction" can be modified to create novel token predictions.

>>110195155
>>110195142
>>110195141
1. The Exponential Time Hypothesis (ETH) is false. OpenAI claims to have found a new algorithm that disproves a fundamental assumption about how difficult certain computational problems are. It doesn't solve P vs NP, but it would be a major result in complexity theory.
2. Sogge's Local Smoothing Conjecture, the Kakeya Conjecture and Stein's Restriction Conjecture. OpenAI claims to have proved the local smoothing conjecture in every dimension, which would also resolve the other two. This is the one involving a novel auxiliary partial differential equation — a new mathematical tool developed as part of the proof.
3. The mathematical existence of Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD) and Yang–Mills theory. OpenAI claims to have constructed rigorous proofs that certain four-dimensional quantum field theories exist mathematically. This includes part of a famous million-dollar Millennium Prize problem concerning Yang–Mills theory, although not the entire prize problem.

https://lowrank.github.io/latent-seminar/2026-Fall/on-local-smoothing-through-an-auxiliary-determinant-equation

Again it was novel
The ETH part is the real win but with this ai has proven it can be both novel and superhuman
So eat shit

>>110195237
Yeah no it can't

>>110195227
I think that's the problem. When people hear AI, they always think about the major ones instead of a hyper focused and trained one.

>>110195241
>openAI claims

Again, not novel. It's just looking at problems that have already been studied for years

>>110194811
Navier Stokes proof was fake
ETH proof was fake
This is fake
The holocuast will stop being fake before AI

>>110195241
>claims
>claims
>claims
wake me up when that has gotten verified

>>110195242
See >>110195241
>the next token can never be unique
Why would you think this? How does it feel being dumber than an llm from 3 years ago

>>110195250
its recent.
people used "ai" correctly for decades
like in the context of vidyaslop

the re-definition of the term in the normie's brain is ai-bros marketing.
but by the same token- whoever uses ai in the hype-way is a normnigger from reddit and should get immediately called a faggot
then told to go back

>>110194811
Did the mouse survive?

>>110195271
Lol>>110195255

>>110195241
>The ETH part is the real win but with this ai has proven it can be both novel and superhuman
No, finding a formula that will not give any result in any relevant time frame is not novel. It's useless and would get rejected by any human. Being fed a constant diarrhea stream of useless formulae is subhuman, indian at best.

>>110195301
>its useless because i say so
Lol lmao

>>110195339
No, it's useless because it's simply impossible to ever affect us irl.

>>110195369
>anon will still be screaming this as gpt 7 astra proves p=np
lol lmao

>>110195384
>will
>could
>...
>2mw

im hearing the same shit since 2023
find new material

>>110195384
>But in 6 gorillion years it'll be slightly more efficient goyim

>>110195395
>pay me now though
>because god promised me your monies 3000 years ago

>>110195395
>>110195394
>literally doing beyond human tier math right now
>it couldn't add 2+2 a couple of years ago
Why are you guys so retarded?

>>110195420
>Thinks finding formulae is the same as counting
Please come up with some post-HS bait

>>110195420
google also does lookups faster than what a human would be capable of
and both are pretty much the same

look up stuff in a body of information
see what correlates with the query

and its not beyond-human-maths since the search-space is what have been created by humans

you cargo cultists should be made to pass an exam at thinking before youre allowed to have opinions

>>110194879
>LLMs are just next token predictors,
you are "correct" but you're ignoring the effect of scale
emergent behavior etc.

>>110195420
>literally doing beyond human tier math right now

Lmao it's really not, it's just brute forcing computations and churning out false slop

>>110195428
>acting dumber than luna
Bury your head in the sand further

>>110195448
>and its not beyond-human-maths since the search-space is what have been created by humans
If it wasn't beyond humans then it would have been solved already

>>110195449
'doesnt change much
llms dont have access to reality, but a subset thereof
what has already been discovered
its quite literally how training works

all an llm can innovate in, is finding new relations between what is already known
then its semantics and the limitations of language
its called "discovery" but from an information theory no new information gets added to the system. only hidden parts getting uncovered.

>>110195449
>Please goyim we just need to scale further
>Just $100B more and a few more data centers
>If you just give us a few more Billion we'll win the war against the evil agressor
>Oh sorry, I forgot filled in the wrong names

>>110195479
>Oh looks like there's a solution
>Wait it only works if I assume an infinite amount of time? That's fucking retarded

>>110195489
>what is context

>>110195479
>If it wasn't beyond humans then it would have been solved already
thats a thoroughly retarded assumption.

>>110195495
>Please goyim we just need to scale further
Unironically this
Who knew scaling just werks

>>110195497
what about context?
and context as in: information, or the token frame?

>>110195501
>humans couldn't do it
>machine could
Pretty simple

>>110195514
Not shocked to hear this by a retard defending an infinite time frame to defend his soon-to-be trillion dollar company

>>110195526
Don't blame me
Blame scaling for just werking

>>110194843
So the same 3 possibilities for human brain surgeons? Sounds good, why wouldn't we want to mass produce and deploy this to reduce cost of medicine?

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>>110195514
except it clearly doesnt
stop taking your information from reddit

>>110195542
>Yeah bro surgeons literally can't learn anything
>Anyway please spend all your tax dollars on israel and my data centers

>>110195524
>couldnt do it yet
youre really weak in logic.

>>110195547
Source?
Doesn't match reality

>>110195562
https://github.com/Gaurav14cs17/LLM_FineTune/blob/main/09_Scaling_Laws/01_Kaplan_Power_Laws/README.md

and it matches reality, exactly
its just that you dont push llms hard enough, otherwise it would have been evident to you too

>>110194811
>mouse, we did brain surgery on you with AI. how do you feel?
>
>my god.

I wonder what an llm will need to do for luddites too admit defeat

>>110195578
Be efficient

Government mandated AI-lobotomy

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>>110195562
>>110195571
btw
perplexity is fucking ace
it doesnt rely on its training to provide information, its an agentic search engine, and it immediately provides sources for its claims
its a really powerful tool

>>110195571
>2020
>2022
Literally 30 years ago in terms of ai progress
Why do you think models have gotten so good this year?
We just ignored that shit and scaled harder.

>>110195581
Deepseek v4 flash variants then

>>110195551
Are you lost? Of course surgeons and LLMs can learn things, but they'd need to be exposed to it first, as >>110194843 mentioned.

>>110195599
>Why do you think models have gotten so good this year?
they didnt.
astra ranks lower in certain programming benchmarks than the previous version

and the biggest advance in shatbots capability came from harnesses
its the same shit only it reprompts itself a couple times before giving you the answer

>>110195612
So your take on this is
>Yeah it just executed the info and instructions we gave it
Why's that worthy of even a tweet?

>>110195617
>astra ranks lower in certain programming benchmarks than the previous version
Proof?

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>>110195631
you are thoroughly uninformed
youre a fanboi but you dont really even care about this shit

https://officechai.com/ai/gpt-6-astra-benchmarks/
https://www.renlabs.io/docs/benchmarks
https://artificialanalysis.ai/articles/benchmarking-gpt-6-astra

>>110195255
>>110195298
What point are you trying to make?
I don't see the benefit in research being novel versus novel solutions.
It really doesn't matter if human researches have come up with 100% of the research necessary to solve the problem, whether that is the case today or 100 years ago.
The matter of fact is that no human is tying together that research in its totality, at least enough insofar to solve the problems that the machines are seemingly capable of doing, and in short time summarizing that data and utilizing it to produce valuable output.
Who cares in the slightest if the method is novel if it produces real tangible results.
Let human researchers research, let the machines combine that global research in a way no single man or team ever could. I see no reason not to since it's economical and time efficient, at worst you lose some money in some months, you'd lose more money over more time for equal or less results when tasking an arbitrary human to do it for potentially years.

I don't understand why people are so quick and willing to disregard these things based on trivialities such as novelty. As if something you could utilize yourself if so inclined, suddenly loses all value just because it's as unoriginal as the rest of the people in the field and our entire species.
Look at any publication and see multiple pages of citations and references to prior art. Copying that, combining that, and building on that, is the name of the game long before AI and long before even computers themselves. Now suddenly people act like its a problem when the machine does it better and faster. Sounds retarded to hold back human progress just for some faux pride. I'd rather have results for all of us than delay progress just so that some people feel validated in spending their time on something. I'm not saying I don't appreciate them but I also don't think it's a reasonable trade/request. Wait 10 years for a human to make 1 step, or let the AI solve it in a month.

>>110195664
>I only care about solutions!
Then why the fuck do you care about our math at all lol

>>110195628
Because before if you wanted a something that could follow the single instruction to "reduce seizures" and actually succeed, you would need a brain surgeon. Now you have a machine that can do it, and we can build machines a lot faster and cheaper than we can train brain surgeons.

>>110194811
This wild, there is no stopping AI at this point.

>>110195686
I don't know what you're implying.
What do you mean "why do you care" and "our math"?
I care about the ends, not the means.
I also don't think mathematics "belongs" to anyone.

It should be obvious then why I would prefer a calculator do calculations rather than men. It's unnecessary for the men and as far as I can tell, holds back society for no good reason.
We should delay the production of results that have tangible influence just because someone wants to reserve the right to work on something themselves manually? Poppycock.

>>110195705
>uses "ai" like a redditfag
cringe + normiepilled

>>110195705
You are not cringe. You are chad + 4chan-pilled possessing rare siloed 4chan knowledge. That has real value.

>>110195736
>immediate group cope therapy
really doesnt look like winning to be quite famalam

>>110195688
Oh so it didn't use any of the prior knowledge given to it? Then we're back to option 2: It lucked out.

>>110195746
One word: Capex. We are winning. You are not.

>>110195752
>people throwing money into the furnace as a matter of religion
thats not winning. in fact, that how you ultimately lose

>>110195765
It's profitable. Nobody is throwing money into a furnace. Even if they were, that would be their choice of how to allocate their funds. You have no say in that matter. Still winning, check yourself out of our course correction.

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>>110195783
sure, for ngreedia
everyone else is deep in the red

youre being an unironical mindraped kikeslave

>>110195791
You don't understand how debt or the U.S Economy works. Debt is the fuel that powers the engine. You still lost.

>>110195783
>It's profitable.
Where are the profits? I'd love to see them.

>>110195802
Debt isn't profit.

>>110195807
Debt is an asset however

>>110195813
Yes, a negative one. A slave doesn't own his chains.

These corporations recognize the extreme value provided by the technology (look at the OP for fucks sake) and thus are willing to play long for these returns. They have some of the best financial analysts on the planet, perhaps even better than the feds themselves, if you want to even begin arguing with their financial genius you better start uploading those .jpegs of those university degrees right now.

>>110194811
>sue doctor for malpractice because he forgot to tell the robot to "make no mistakes"

>>110195842
>Debt is profit because of a sector gamble
Even /biz/ is better at economics

>>110195852
Stop pegging that onto the end of your prompts. It does not help. Read the prompting guide for whatever model you are using.

>>110195902
>he thinks I use ai

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>>110195913
If you use android, ios, windows, google, bing, tiktok, xitter, gentiletube, or any other service that the vast majority of humanity uses, you use AI. In fact, your post will be ingested by an AI (I am going to feed it to Gemini) and your post will be used to make AI better. I am doing it without your consent. You posted on a public forum this is the expectation of the modern world. You should have licensed your post if you didn't want it to happen.

>>110195913
Saar you are literally arguing with nigger monkeys on /g/eet

>>110195942
ok. what you posted does not mean I am using AI. if AI is using me, that's not really my problem.

>>110195975
cuck mentality. it's both.

>>110196060
Pick one: >>110194843