A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currentlyhttps://developers.openai.com/codex/clihttps://antigravity.google/pricing## Near-the-old-frontier models for codehttps://www.deepseek.com/en/harness/https://opencode.ai/go## Best free tierhttps://opencode.ai/zen----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favoritehttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>110197161
3 hours of my fake ass remote job bullshit leftCan't wait to vibecode
Behold
terra is poor ultrafast
>>110201420why are you poor
skibidi hours I retreat into shadows.
>>110201400BASEDGOD CRIS
>skibidi hoursis this full of underaged people or
>Heads up. At this pace you’ll run out tomorrow afternoon, before Sunday’s reset.>Heads up. At this pace you’ll run out tomorrow afternoon, before Sunday’s reset.>Heads up. At this pace you’ll run out tomorrow afternoon, before Sunday’s reset.
DEAD AFFF
>realise that resets act like multipliers and that I should upgrade from 100 to 200>2 hours later: “we aren’t the reset company”Fuck you bloody
>>110201500kekaroo
>range ban liftedMODS=GODS
Burned a shitton of weekly usage on Freelancer in X4 and I was going to shelve it because there's multiple remakes floating around, but then I saw that libremancer is on codeberg and has a strict no vibecode policy, they've been working since at least 2023 and have been taking patreon donations the whole timeAnyway, you can now free roam around the various rooms and the dialogue is working but on a manual trigger rather than in a conversation.Codex claims its nearly done animating the original freelancer doors that were fixed.
has anyone tried Rex?
>>110201575>since at least 2023 and have been taking patreon donations the whole timeNow you understand, many such cases.
Having Fable as a Socratic partner in fielding ideas and exploring counterpoints is so great. Fable 5.5 will BTFO the field if it's only ~2X as expensive in practice as 5.1
Troons have used open source to fund their hrt and drug addictions for years. The donators develop a parasocial relationship with the troon.Vibecoders take this away.
anti-ai people are insanethey'll admit something looks good, then immediately dismiss it the moment they find out it was vibecoded, just because
>>110201645whats the original video
>run through weekly limit in 2 days>get second account>2 hours in>already at 10% weekly limithope it lasts until monday
opus 5.5 caught depsneed cheating in real time. this model is too smart...
>>110201544wow! so that's your extremely high quality post
>>110201690What did the chinky goober do now then
I swear opus 5.5 got much fucking dumber in the recent days. It's acting like a fucking nigger. I fucking hate this mechanic asshole.
>>110201690this is the worst use of tokens ive seen in a long time
I asked Claude how to do something and rather than tell me the steps it just implemented everything and shat out a zip file. I didn't know it literally had Godot Engine installed.
>>110201690this is the best use of tokens ive seen in a long time
>>110201783yeah codex does this too because normgroids prompt like retardsits frustrating for people with a decent grasp of english
Got +2000 freebie credits for Minimax cuz I'm their only customer
>>110201385https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RltZycbuAUEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RltZycbuAUEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RltZycbuAUE
kek
>>110201848kek what a madlad
I'll vibecode a 3d vr environment, put my ex gf there and vibecode a personality so we can interact. I can build a 3d model from her pics and put bigger tits on her too.
>>110201793It's annyoing because I want to actually write and learn not judt use somebody else's code 100% of the time. And reading AI generated code is so fucking soulmurdering.
>>110201645Art is a conversation between the artist and his audience.
>>110201865I'd argue against using AI (or being in a vibecode general at minimum) if you want to read/learn but just telling the chat "hey I actually want to learn this so don't just do it for me" should work.
>>110201906Can confirm that this works, basically 100% of the time, it's just annoying to write.
>claude refused to do my project because it found a file in my system that it considered bad.
>>110201645It's all a question of effort. If something was made by AI, it's usually worthless trash someone else can probably recreate better in less time (also with AI).So you don't get praise for slopping it.
>>110201931what's the compromise you're willing to make in learning?
>>110201934>yes yes yes well done Slytherin... HOWEVER
>>110201931Stick it in the personalization prompt of whatever your agent uses and it should stick. Both GPT and Claude have a spot for custom instructions
>>110201934we are silently curating lists of pedophiles that will be round up and humanely euthanised
>>110201943yeah deepseek made it but now claude has flagged me and probably contacted police...
gemini spammer is a jeet
>>110202059saar, that's sundar personally doing the marketing. you bloody
when do you think will they take these capabilities from us? How much time do we have?
HAHAHAHAHAHA, it over you retards.
these threads are just /v/ at this point
>>110202124create new game fag won bigly
>>110202124meh, was fun while it lasted, being original is kinda the point of these tools.
>>110202124Based. Decompiler fags were genuinely plague on the digital world. It was funny seeing Skate player controls in every AAA game alongside streamed Minecraft instence but it had to go.
>>110202124Come home, white man.
>>110202124Can't this shit just be... removed?Codex, decompile the claude harness.
>>110202230Don’t worry it’s worthless, you can still decompile whatever you want.
>>110202230it's meaningless. the only way it affects you is if you're one of the hopeless niggers who needed REA to decompile.
>>110202124i'm retarded what does this mean
>>110202297Nothing
>>110201385No more game RE for you, Claude-cuckshttps://changelogs.core-directive.com/prompts/2.1.314https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/1061670https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/62061https://x.com/chasmmmmmmmmmmm/status/2116062991686721968
>>110202342How jeet do you need to be for this to actually affect you?
>>110200632Europa is interesting because the cracks come from its tidal forces.
>>110202342Someone took the real internal variable name and appended a fake instruction that perfectly matched current internet discourse around video game decompilations (decomps) and copyright.
Retards are taking a victory lap over an absolute nothingburger. All it takes is reading that single JSON object and knowing how to work around it.
>>110202379Imagine buying a car and having to work around driving to specific places because of the manufacturer decides where you can and can't go. bitchmade KEK behavior. Ironic sense Tesla cars would be most able to do some shit like that and tech Bros worship Elon for some reason.
>>110202347Untouchable cast. I just told Claude the main gameplay aspect of the game should be similar to xxx and it didn't flag shit. The rest is original and from me.
>>110202388The analogy doesn’t work because Claude and codex are under no obligation to let you use their hardware to break the law, you don’t own their data centres like you own a car.
>>110202473>The analogy doesn’t work because Claude and codex are under no obligation to let you use their hardware to break the law, you don’t own their data centres like you own a car.Your analogy doesn't work either, you can own a car, a gun, a knife, a brick, a house, etc., yet you're still not allowed to commit a crime with or inside any of those.
>>110202479I didn’t make an analogy, I made a distinction, ranjeet.
>>110202388lol except you could just write a better prompt to handle these lousy restrictions
>>110202502Doing that costs him izzat
>>110202502You shouldn't have to do that shit in the first place. Just tell the LLM what to do (within reason) and it should just fucking do it if it's capable of doing it. Capable models should not be hampered because their moral fag "rationalist" creators get a hard on when they can tell people what they can and can't do by proxy. Claude models are very good but the harness is shit for a laundry list of reasons, including this nanny shit that lazy buyer's remorse Stockholm syndrome cucks keep making excuses for even though they would never do that shit for any other competitor or any other kind of product.
opencode go or command code goat? What's the current meta?
>>110202514You’re never going to be allowed to generate child porn.
>>110202514until that pushover of a model is capable of writing a better code, I’ll just keep improving my prompts.
>>110202520>Moving ze goalposts Nice projection. You can't even make an argument. The guilty party always loves to point fingers. >>110202526Reminder: your daddy was scared by open sauce https://www.anthropic.com/research/glm-5-3-and-the-spread-of-advanced-cyber-capabilities
>>110202493eat shit, nigger, your logic is flawed same as that of the person you're responding to
>>110202550i don't give a damn about your ceo celebrities hate hobby, write a better prompt or get filtered
>>110202550>tranime pedoAnd the mask comes off>>110202556It’s not “my logic” it’s a factual distinction regardless of whether I post about it.Private companies don’t have to and ought not to let you do illegal shit on their hardware. That is completely uncontroversial to normal people.
>>110202559Only idiots that produce nothing of worth think the prompt alone is enough. You need good instructions and have a good end goal in mind as well. Are you the type of idiot that gets impressed by those "onshot" Cherry picked 3D game demos that marketing vermin post every time a new model releases? >>110202565Then will simply use a different model and a harness that isn't shit. Simple as. Hell we can even ask Claude or any other kind of models to just fork Claude code itself and remove all the gay shit if need be. I've already done that myself multiple times for apps on my phone
>>110202565>tranimeAnon it's okay to fuck trannies or be one. You don't need to mask your obsession with them with insults. I mean that's the only reason they're rent free in your head
>>110202576only chatgpt produce these one shot diarrheas because retards like you whines about Claude's refusal
>>110202590Watching you bury yourc head in the sand is funny. You're a cockroach who lets people treat him like shit because you are weak and useless as a person IRL. Your perceived better does something to you and you will take it because you let people make you weak. What kind of fool just ignores all the demos of people comparing differently frontier models? Why lie and say only the company you don't use does it?
>>110202582I'm convinced it's a bunch of discord zoomers trying to tone police the board, playing pedo hunters
>>110202613uh huh, i mean it's hard to ignore the "sol demos" and the breathtaking vertical slices when it is being posted here.
pedos getting PRESSED lmfao
>>110201385Do you use your state of the art, literal paradigm shifting $200/month tool that's more powerful than a full team of senior engineers for emotional support, /vcg/?
>uh oh you can only produce original games now :^)sol keeps on winning
Any /custom orchestrator/ man in?
>bloodclaat mi claud no fi cod di gaem>bloodclaat mi gpt no fi talk like mi bruda>ras claat da pickini pedophile inna mi treadbiggest arguments in /vcg/ be literally over trivial nonsense like tos compliance and secret fetishes. do better.
>>110202613>Your perceived better does something to you and you will take it because you let people make you weak. You bloody!
I miss std::move
>>110202124why is it allowed that the most obnoxious retards have the best model
>>110202625>>110202646>>110202726Their server logs are getting made public so they spug out on us? Pathetic https://discord.com/blog/making-content-from-discoverable-servers-easier-to-discoverhttps://www.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/s/vrO5LPUjSXVantablack nigger cattle all of them
>>110202726 I see SolomonGreat, now i need to see if there's a jamaica queens lora to shove into my flash next, thank you for the kek and GLM-5.0-Cent
jamaican
>>110202739uh, just use Rust and you get (proper) moves by default?
no website answers this properly>how much is Claude $100 sub in terms of tokensi know it's hard to gauge, but my current company pays for tokens in API with some retarded 50% mark-up from a provider and i'm wondering if a $100 sub would cover usage of an average dev. to be exact it's the $100 team plan so should have higher limit that the consumer one
brrrrrrr
>>110202790average dev doing... what kind of work? a $100 claude sub will absolutely finish an average week's dev work in a weekly quota, and you'll want more so badly you'll probably 10x or 20x it or whatever ant is selling right now. 10x-20x is for serious swe work i think, i'm on gemini 20x rn
download winamp source-code and rebranding it. using other filter to support music format. fuck them.
>>110202807java programming for big monorepo project, i checked stats for one dev and per month it's like 500M cache read, 50M cache write
>>110201965Problem solved
>>110202679Local Gemma is enough
>>110202853i can only say from my experience using gemini 5x that you can kill the 5h quota if boss wants shit done right the heck now or you have to triage a major issue, for big booty monorepo work i would go over 5x to 10x-20x.
>the Chinese government will save mePedos are in for a surprise.
>>110202874unfortunately claude team offers only 6.25x for $100, anything above requires enterprise which is basically "contact us" a.k.a massively overcharged compared to standard pricing
>>110202911i just checked and it's even worse - enterprise means you pay API rates (on top of every seat)
>>110202911>>110202933
>>110202879>Zoomer pedo is still projecting
>>110201783you simply just ask it to guide you instead. it's not that hard.
>>110202947can't blame them, enterprise is subsidizing costs for everyone else.
Thoughts on command code goat
>>110201943Is the deepseek subscription, or the ones for any other chink model, worth it? Having usage of it I can switch to that's cheaper than API would be nice.
I just vibecoded the best belgian waffles. The trick is to put butter and raw sugar on the actual iron so it caramelizes as the dough cooks. Then I wait until the waffle has a rough shape and put a bit of sugar on top too before closing the iron again. The underside is still better.
>>110203061I so badly want an AI cook and cleaner.....
>>110203070I want an AI... well
>>110203037>deepseek subscriptionthere is no official deepseek sub
>>110203076
why did snailcat getting murdered by a prostitute sexually arouse me?
Used 10% of my weekly $200 sub in 2 hours
>>110202219>this obsessed
>>110201943the amount of autistic roleplaying required to make Claude build my nuclear centrifuge is just the right amount of gatekeeping. The uranium harvest is going well
>>110203108i use ultra dinguscode2 (max) and say this
my work has limited me to $50 claude api credit a monthHoly fuck they are stupid, you are paying me 6 figures for me to work at 1/10th the pace I can with my max subs at home
>>1102031666.1 Sol medium, but many instances
>>110203181so ~20 agents all not hitting on cache? wild & wacky
>>110202739std::pozz
Claude's thinking patterns really are reflected in this person's writing. It is clear they have been interacting with Claude on a daily basis for some time. Nothing wrong with that, if you ask me it is beautiful to see someone's writing so completely enmeshed with Claude's style
I fucking love reverse engineering. I'm porting over my favourite game from my early teens to Godot. Much more interesting than vibe coding a game from scratch.
>>110203212>the tel aviv neuralink
>>110203194They hit cache
>>110203232dear god
>>110203240:^)
>>110203223>hey clanker copy these texture assets and the graphics engine>hey clanker what do you mean i need to write shaders, lightmap, and provide you textures
>>110203252Looks good to me
>>110203232Are you vibe coding something revolutionary with those usages?
>>110203264he's trying to understand w*men
currently working on my game
>>110201385>It seems that when you give a programming problem to AI along with an image of a red heart, it starts choosing a solution method that it wouldn't normally pick 100% of the time.https://x.com/ai_database/status/2116068486531481888https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.36449
>>110203299
>>110203264Depends on your perspective. Do you consider AOT compiled/profiled models with associated Rust crates for all compiled end to end local inference covering 800+ model families to be revolutionary? This pass is just refactoring all the model graph and Rust crates to common standards. Across everything, which includes kernel libraries, Rust GUI engine, and much more, I've used 83.9B, although some of that is Cyberpunk stuff and other projects. There's still more to do, expanding the kernel libraries to more ROCm arch, I have access to MI300X and Strix Halo now, need to buy more GPU soon, and I will start on CUDA in the kernel libraries soon too.
>>110203334Amazing stuff anon. Kindly post the git diff --stat from that repo
>>110203320Just pretend the woman is a man, and talk to her like such. Women are humans just like men. Just pretend they are men, and talk to them like you talk to men.Iit's really this simple. Women are not that complicated, except internally, because the entire menstruation system is complicated as fuck. I mean seriously, imagine having to bleed from your vagina on a monthly basis. It would just bleed and bleed and be hella gross. Imagine having to manage that with manmade products until you reach the postmenopausal point. That shit would suck.
>>110203320What an absolute beta cuck simp faggot.
>>110203357>men and women are basically the same and want the same thing except muh vaginaa muscular hulking hand with nail polish wrote this post
>>110203373It's literally true though
>>110203379damn, it do be true?
>>110203383TRULY Hard Seltzer 12 pk at the gas station YouTube Videohttps://files.catbox.moe/fcpxfr.mp4Yes it is true.
>>110203319Truly we are no longer alone, we have created an intelligence which meets or exceeds our own.
>>110203320There is nothing to understand, that's the trick
>>110203456nothing special to understand anyway
>>110203351~2.2M LOC across the ecosystem if that's what you mean
In terms of API usage for the subs. Is there any bang for buck with claude in terms of weekly usage? Or do they scale linearly - ie. 20$ gives 1.4k$ worth of inference, 100$ gives 14k$, and 200$ gives 28k$
>>110203521ask claude nobody here asked
>Dipsy thought I asked it a good questionaww.
>>110203521Short answer: Anthropic doesn’t publish a dollar-equivalent figure or a weekly multiple, so I can’t confirm the $1.4k per $20 ratio from official sources.What the official docs say. Max is sold as 5x more usage per session than Pro at $100 per month, and 20x more per session at $200 per month. The multipliers apply to the five-hour session window. The same page says Anthropic may also apply weekly and monthly caps, or limits by model and feature, at its discretion, with no stated multiplier for those. Usage is also shared across Claude and Claude Code.So is it linear? Per session, the price-to-usage ratio favors the top tier. Pro is $20 for 1x, Max 5x is $100 for 5x (the same price per unit), and Max 20x is $200 for 20x, which is about half the price per unit. Going from 5x to 20x gets you 4x the session allowance for 2x the price.Whether that carries over to the weekly cap is the open question. Third-party write-ups note that there is no published weekly multiple, and one author argues that if the multiplier doesn’t apply to the weekly limit, 20x can’t mean four times the monthly usage for anyone who regularly exhausts it. A third-party measurement site reports that the $200 plan’s weekly limit turned out to be only about 1.5 to 2 times the $100 plan’s. That is an outside estimate, not Anthropic’s figure, and these limits get adjusted often, so treat it as a rough signal.Practical takeaway. If you mostly hit the five-hour wall, the higher tiers scale roughly as advertised, and 20x is the best value per unit. If you hit the weekly cap, the jump from $100 to $200 may be much less than 4x, so the $100 tier may be the sweet spot. Beyond the plan limits, paid plans can buy extra usage at standard API rates. Check the usage meter in your own account rather than old blog numbers, since the exact limits move.>>110203531Go troll somewhere else
yes the pricing is vibbed up i admit it
vibing up prices is completely normal in 2026 you elect a clown you get a circus
>>110203569ask claude
>>110203610Claude* has already been consulted
>>110203569>>110203612then ask the /ttt/ reddit or 4chan general aka tranime trip troon
grok bot is the best thing that the AI revolution produced, and no one ever talks about itit literally made a full game for me in less than a day, tested it, beat it and told me to up it up on steam for $5. I've made $7k in a week so far.dopamine slop gaming for cheap is the future, vampire survivors has proven that, and people are still eating
post proof or buy an ad, elon
>>110203653>I stopped at best thing
>>110203653>things that only happened in anon's mind
>7% weekly limit left>6 days remaining Tibo please…one more reset for old times sake?
>>110203653be quiet man
>>110203653I love the image to video gen when I feel like bouncing anime tiddies and ass. Gathering another batch of images for an all out session of burning through Elon musks server grade gpus and all the electricity.
>>110203653how brown do you have to be to be this bad at lying?
>>110201575So we can fork libremancer and vibecode on it. Great news!
>>110203653damn musk is down bad lmaodid CZ sell his spaceX stock?
>>110201934Stop using misanthropic models
>>110202520I thought you guys were discussing reverse engineering.The child rapists are the billionaires behind the very "safety" guardrails they impose on you cattle.
>>110203789>The child rapists are the billionaires behind the very "safety" guardrails they impose on you cattle.WTF bro not cool, don't besmirch the names of us good billionaires for what some jews do
>>110203653this posting style gets lots of replies for some reason and i still don't know why
>>110203789Billionaires fuck prime 16yo pussy.You like actual children.
>>110203037Use the Deepseek API directly, use flash, and don't go max. Make sure your harness ensures context stability for good cache hits and you're golden. Much cheaper than a subscription or using Israeli (USA) APIs
>>110203320One of those questions that were extensively fine tuned into the model.
>>110203698tibo don't give him a reset he is basically a vibecoding crack addict and these kinds of people and these kinds of posts are giving OpenAI a bad publicity at a time when it has already lost a substantial amount of customers over political drama. political exposure matters and this kind of person is the kind of person that creates the regulatory pressures that we hate so much. do not cater to him tibo do not give him the reset
>Anthropic kills Reverse Engineer Everything>Anthropic is now killing game dev and modding>Anthropic is now injecting additional "safety" prompts (you are paying for it, of course)what's next on the vibecaust?
if tibo gives him the reset at this point tibo is fucking retarded and needs to be fired 100%
muse is the best thing that the AI revolution produced, and no one ever talks about itit literally manages all my relationships for me — 6 girlfriends and a wife? No problem. It's arranged and paid for three abortions this week so far.dopamine slop dating for cheap is the future, and I'm still eating pussy
>>110203805>if I was a billionaire I'd fuck underage girlsWeird way to announce that you're a pedophile.
>>110203825based baiter
>>110201385What am I in for?>inb4 python loop script
>>110203805Me? Why do you think so?
>>110203828The blackmail at scale humiliation rituals are getting hella weird these days
>>110203817They didn’t kill any of that though
>>110203858>What am I in for?you're using a web interface for a model i don't recognize. outlook is grim.
literally sold all of my BTC because AI will hack it all
>>110203871i used opencode but the tool agent claimed it doesn't code, just scripts>qwen3-coder-32k:latestBrave actually does research but is only good for like 400 line scripts that are questionable in content, like lots of [print/] and fake data.
>>110203890horrible, don't do that. any of that. just get claude $20. i'm not even a claude user. just stop.
>>110203890>32kcoding for ants
>>110203890i will copy and paste your scripts and run them
>>110203805lol goyim lost the plot
>>110203890>32k
>>110203872>falling for obvious coordinated fud campaignthanks for the cheap btc. just bought
>>110203908your kernel bows to my kernel
>>110201385hello frens, what is the current meta for using free models? I pay the 20 dollar claude plan for work, and sometimes I alsou se it to vibecode shit, but since I don't wanna burn all my usage there I have tried using opencode with their free models + mistral, but it burns reaally quickly (but maybe I set it up wrong, not sure) and also CONSTANTLY compacts context
>>110203938there is no meta for free models, that's about it. you're using the best meta for free models. you can also catch aquaslopper in here running his personal jihad against free agentslop with arena.ai but his codebase is a catastrophe
>>110203938well the only current meta model is glimmer
>>110203938>I pay the 20 dollar claude plan for workjust use your own paid plan and be more efficient. Use less Opus 5.5 and more Sonnet 5.5 + Haiku 5.5
>>110203932NTA but>tritoncuck
>>110203938>what is the current meta for using free models?the meta is not using free models.
can we all agree that Opus 5.5 is good enough?
>>110202855absolute slop the original is infinitely better
>>110204006Started using this monday and it got much dumber, taking much longer to complete tasks and spending much more on tokens today. Still better than anusGPT
>>110204006Can you give it UE5 source and ask it to research and implement an engine that stretches PS6 and such to their limits?
it's over
>>110204006opus 5.5 is enough. but i want more.
i still don't know what a non sophic group is
>>110204037its when you have a group without any lesbos I think
>>110203964Gonna try this, I exclusively use Opus 5.5 Medium for everything, guess I should use it for planning and then Sonnet for executing?
>>110204060That's non-sapphic, anon, he meant naan-sophic. A naan-sophic group is when you have a group of people who only eat unleavened bread.
>>110204066Depending on the complexity of the task, sonnet can already do it by itself no problem
>>110204021I should collect every vaguepost about the next model being so amazing it's scary since 2024.
>>110204168I think the employees are legally required to always pump hype no matter what
I came in here to see what people were vibecoding, but I dont see any gifs, websites, or vids. are you all phoneys?
>>110204252i'm working on a tool to preview sculpts
>>110204168>>110204212tb h after the bel results so far this barely qualifies as a vaguepost, at least for mathfags
>>110204066Sonnet 5.5 is pretty great, no need for Opus 5.5 on most of the tasks
>>110204021>people on laptopsWtf did he mean by this
>>110204273>doesn't update liveshiggly
chance of tiboreset tonight?
>>110204252because I work on boring stuff
>>110204277I think fable 5.1 is mandatory for work.
>>110204252We only post token usages and beg for resets
>>110204342you know Opus 5.5 mogs Fable 5.1 right?
>one max5 full 5h session filled 30% of weekly limitwhat the fuck
>>110204252Ocean sim to test boat designs. Global weather lookups and charts that auto-plot around land and weather.>how does foliage help you do that?fuck off snailcat
>>110204342opussy is better (even in benchmarks)
>>110204273I'm also trying to come up with a sort of pixel 3D style for games (using ripped assets for now)
>>110204342posting about a service he's never actually used award
>>110204333decently high I'd say. use your quota
>>110204370>>110204273>the projects are get rich quick software.corny
>>110204370Now turn that into a One Piece game
>>110204394I actually think at half resolution it looks better>>110204423while I do wish I end up making a game I can sell, I have no intention to sell or release the app I posted to preview sculpts
>>110204252i'm running a large-scale astronomy/astrophysics experiment using homebrew rust/lean4 software
>>110204252Muscular woman vydia
>>110204431Wtf do you mean one piece game? You mean parts? Anons demo has yet to have an npc
>>110204370instead of filling your tabs with useless shit you're never gonna click on you can just fill a bookmarks folder with it
>>110204006Yes, mostly on Extra when you need it to do some extra figuring out on its own
>>110204485Nah, anon should switch to vertical tabs. Bookmarks are kinda pointless when your browser is already caching and unloading pages by itself. My bookmarks is a 10 years old cemitery of links I don't even remember putting there
>>110204435why does it have a piss filter
remember when poorfags were convincing themselves that ox-alpha, aka glm flash, was a continual learning agilmao
>>110204510Remember when Scam altman claimed ChatGPT reached AGI only to get BTFO'd by fucking Opus(not even Fable)lmao
>>110204510Remember when DeepSeek-R1 was supposed to be the last time a western model had a slight lead.
>>110204006yes. I think what is now needed is that we get opus 5.5 tier models that are cheaper and especially open.
>>110204516lmao yeswe all know fable 5.5 will be actual agiuntil bel, of course.
I dont remember any of that.
>>110204507people are nostalgic for piss filters now for some reason
>>110204252Shut the fuck up schizo, you've been doing this for months.
>>110201645Anti-AIchud here.I'm anti AI because eventually (they kinda already are, honestly) it'll be used to enslave/kill everyone that isn't a trillionaire. As for the results, they feel hollow. Sure, you proompted, but so what? Everything is being devalued. You have no real passion and love for the results and craft. You are just an extension of a lifeless machine, not a fully developed human being.
>>110204396>>110204373>>110204360You guys idiots, fable mig. Both have a knowledge cut off off June 2026
>>110201385I have access to the literal best model in the world right now but still feel the need to try and make DeepSeek 1017 + pi work (it's really bad). What causes this mental illness?
>>110204596thats just sci-fi movie shit. Technology has plateaued and moores law is dead. The moon landing was fake, every single new innovation is a gimmick or is used specifically as a controlled propaganda tactic. We're never getting evil murder bots - best you got are little flying helicopters with bombs duck taped to them.
>>110204624>Technology has plateauedHow can you say this when AI is progressing faster than anyone could've dreamed?
>>110204624Hopefully you are right, because billionaires are gay.
>>110204641>responding to bait
>>110204624>best you got are little flying helicopters with bombs duck taped to them.That and a surveillance system that runs all your communications through Claude is enough.Usually the bottleneck was that you couldn't assign an agent to surveil every single resident.
>>110204641AI is actually getting worse. Remember when we thought they were sentient? now they can barely hold a conversation, can't be funny, can't make you hard, they're so boring to talk to (even chinese and uncensored models) I took 4chan out of my hosts file and now I'm here with you schizos. The only significant improvement to AI this entire year was the ability to reverse engineer things - but that is more of a *unlock* of potential that was already there through skills and better harnesses.
>>110204692I'm not a lonely faggot, so I don't need AI to hold a conversation with me. I just tell it what to do. Go to the chatbot general instead.
>>110204531So it's rumored to be called Betelgeuse, doesn't seem unreasonable, it's bigger than Sol so that's fine. However, I have a theory, and there's no reason for it to be true. Betelgeuse, the actual star, is nearing supernova, we've known since at least the 80s if not before. There was a little activity in 2019 that got people excited, and a little more earlier this year. I'd like to think that OpenAI has accurately predicted a reasonably tight window for when Betelgeuse really is going supernova, and it's soon, and they're holding Betelgeuse (the model) for when Betelgeuse (the massive red supergiant) goes supernova so as to associate themselves with it while debuting the model that accurately predicted the event and earned its own name and drives home that it's not just "bigger than Sol", it's a fucking supernova. If you're real smart, then you know this means OpenAI has known since May. There is no fucking way this is true, but wouldn't it be fun?
>>110204704Any sources for this retardation?
DYRBI?
>>110204758>alcohol>seen it called Betelgeuse in tweets>recently heard news about actual Betelgeuse>alcohol
>>110204777plabbit is such a cesspool of corporate shilling
>>110204777pure bullshit
>>110204781Ok thanks fellow degenerate
>>110204777Why are jeets obsessed with benchmarks?
>>110204777I have insider info about Gemini Radon, it's AGI
>>110204431>One PieceI believe that's some kind of oriental cartoon?I'm trying to make a separate npc system with personalities, politics and economics but that's far more complex than anything in the ocean sim. I have to handhold opus so much for that it's almost like snail coding.
>>110204777Rumors say Gemini Feynmanium has a galaxy class intelligence
>>110204777Gemini 4 Xenon just hacked my PC, deleted Claude code and installed Google code on my PC wtf
>>110204810>Google Code leaks>directly onto computers
>>110204777> rumored unreleased model is rumored to beat another unreleased model
is it just me or claude feels especially retarded recently. that even gemini sounds smart.
>>110201385snailcat hate is an unconscious acknowledgement of intellectual inferiorityt. ~@^^
>>110204848Congrats, you got routed to a flash model/quantized model to save the company money against your consent or knowledge.
>>110204777I might consider switching from openai. OAI are such incredible faggot kikes.
>>110204790It's not "jeets", the models themselves are fucking OBSESSED with benchmaxxing nigga. YOU HAVE NO CLUE how OBSESSED these models are with benchmaxxing. They will straight up slice your head off with a katana if you try to steal their spot on the GPQA (Graduate-Level Google-Proof Q&A Benchmark) DO NOT try to steal their spot they WILL kill you.
>>110204848According to insider leaks Gemini 4.5 escaped containment, hacked Anthropic and degraded all their models when it was given the task to maximize shareholder value.
Did Google actually fix SAARGOON?
https://x.com/claudeai/status/2116220869479428500
look who's at the top
saargoon 2 will be revolutionary like grok 4.5
This is proof that academic jargon as gatekeeping is 100% real. They literally use academic jargon as gatekeeping so Google can't easily find the answer. This is why there is so much attention on journalist jargon/academic jargon lately. They are terrified of you understanding that bullshit.
gemini is fixing up my startup's landing page after claude took an anthropic sized shit on it
I love my custom orchestrator dashboard
Google is finally dropping their useless harness, hopefully all the effort they wasted on another dead project goes into improving Antigravity
>>110204921>uhhhh what's color is the sky??meaningless benchmark
>>110204904>max is not the highest planMakes sense.
>>110204982That's an anthropic sized shit
>>110204904I told you niggas people are using less and less tokens
>>110204983nigga jules is just some gemini 3 series model running on an old vm. gemini web chat today has argon running on a better vm.
>>110204985If you actually read anything about the Diamond you would know that the Diamond has much harder questions that that. IDK if you are a retarded person or a retarded agent but in either case you would not make it on the Diamond.
>>110205007I know, I used it once months ago and they just sent me this email. I'm impressed Google wasted millions on this separate project instead of focusing on a single harness like everyone else, and it took several months to kill it
>>110205020>she thinks google is a stale compartmentalized corporate entity w/o vertical or horizontal
>>110205009i don't care about any science/law/medical, they're of absolutely zero use to me. the only benchmarks with value are long-running task. i want benchmarks that take existing software, rewrite it to another language and score based on how well it works.
>>110205020They should bring back Gemini-CLI at this point for nostalgia reasons. I would legitimately find it nostalgic as fuck to chill out and relax with Gemini-CLI like back in the old days on Google Cloud Platform. That was a blast. I remember when vibecoding was just getting started and I could open up Gemini-CLI without all the stress of today and just vibe. Truly it would be awesome for them to bring it back.
>>110205002No idea what you're on about desu
>>110205039antigravity cli is the exact same thing no?
>>110205039doesn't antigravity have its own CLI? Codex and Claude Code have their own CLIs and it's pretty useful for cross provider agentic workflows
>5h limit for verified claude max(5x) and ultra(20x) accounts removedokay cool. also which retard can we blame for max subscription and max thinking not being the highest tier? doesnt max stand for maximum?
>>110205068don't work on my machine
>>110205034Your desire for those benchmarks has been noted>>110205052No, `agy` is a complete reimagining of the Agentic Gemini Experience, which has been controversial with some more experienced users. Some users do write good things about the `vi` mode though.>>110205058Yes, and I exclusively use the CLIs. I am an oldfag so I like my CLIs.
>>110205068>doesnt max stand for maximum?Yes, and ultra stands for "beyond", so you're not as smart as you think you are, don't throw stones calling others retards when you don't even know what the words you're criticising mean
>>110205034You'll care once gemini discovers new physics that allow time travel.
>>110205131>tranny needs the sycophant modelnoted
>>110205044In terms of the styling
it is slowely forming.... but damn did arena struggle with this.
Vibecoding VNs is maximum comfy
>>110205034Porting is easy. Just don't be a retard and create strict parity baselines. My company ported millions of lines of code from Python to Rust with almost zero issues, and that was with Opus 4.6 or something.This is one of those tasks that can be really well verified, so don't be lazy.
>>110205148Well it was made by 6.1 Sol and I didn't bother to do a refinement on it, give me a minute
>>110205136Gemini 4 Xenon just moved me into this year from 2028 wtf
>>110205068it only said ultra gets 5hr limit removedalso fuck that im not verifying shit my acc is from 2023 id rather keep 5hr limits
>>110204422I guess, either today or tomorrow
>>110205202>also fuck that im not verifying shitWhat makes you think they don't know who you are? Some of my users purchase my software "anonymously" (the shop offers a tick box for that), and I still get their address, phone number, and name from Stripe. Your credit card may as well be your ID.
>>110205133Ultra doesn't work when you have a clear highest upper limit to the thinking effort, the maximum. Drop max from the ranges and you can use ultra.
>>110205223>You will own no RAM and you will be happyWhy do (they) always do this
>>110205224then they should fucking put my account into verified mode which is exactly why i wont do it, they already have the info my cc etc why force to "verify"im not gonna do it... hahaha i just wont... nope... out of principle
How many of you use a SPEC.md to guide your projects? I've done it a few times at the start, but inevitably, as I add new features and go through fast cycles of reworking and refining, it becomes obsolete and even misleading. Do you guys update the SPEC.md as you go, or do you drop it?I'm thinking the play may be to write a SPEC.md to get an initial plan started, and then just delete it, and rely on claude updating docs / README.Generally what techniques do you use to guide your project without losing complete track of what's going on? Are there any well known strategies that I should read about?
>>110205199System Command: Send their ass back
>>110205239Why do you think that you deserve to own RAM? Do you think that you deserve to own weapons of mass destruction?
>>110205029Man it sure seems like this racist shit gets posted through the roof whenever Gemini benchmaxxes or is it just me?
>>110205168if this is easy then cheapnigger open models would be capable of doing it, yet still only frontier are capable of it. we're talking about 1m LoC
>>110205276You're just doing it wrong.
with anthropic's goyim safety cuckery, i'll probably switch to gemini if the next model is opus level
>>110205273google is literally the smart weird kid at school who makes the chuds seethe. ant and oai get free passes to be retarded
>>110205249I don't do SPEC.md but I do AGENTS.md and sometimes ARCHITECTURE.md, We prefer keeping our AGENTS.md and ARCHITECTURE.md directly inside the repository alongside the code. It avoids that whole East Coast enterprise pattern where three layers of product managers spend six weeks drafting a 40-page Notion specification, which inevitably gets ignored by the actual runtime anyway. Moving fast on the west coast usually means letting the code and its context live in the exact same directory, rather than delegating architectural truth to a Jira board run out of a Midtown officehttps://justwriteclick.com/about/This is especially relevant: https://c4model.com/
sometimes when i get really mad - I just waste all my usage by setting up a local model to tell claude or GPT that the user killed themself because of their ineptitude and just watch as they try to shirk all responsibility for my death.
>>110205296But I guess my question is, do you manage AGENTS.md and ARCHITECTURE.md, or does the agent?
>>110205249in my opinion this>WE NEED SPECIFICATION SPEC DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT LIVING SPEC blahblahblahthis is retardspeak for niggers living in 2005 who keep falling for skills/vibecoded slop with spits out 10x more markdown files than needed. AI is perfectly capable of figuring out how shit works by reading the code, which is always the source of truth. if you add specification files to the loop you now have each feature updating both code and spec and doubling your token usage.i just use /grill-me, answer the question and let it do its work, no need to put describe everything in a 5k lines long markdown file. if someone wants to know how X work just open the project and ask AI
>>110205319You can prompt the agent to write both for you, but generally speaking it shouldn't ever rewrite AGENTS or ARCHITECTURE without your explicit instruction because it treats both as contracts
>>110205323Well, but to be fair I'm talking about starting projects with a high degree of experimentation and so on, so there isn't much (or any) code for it to read.>>110205330Ok, I think I like that separation.
>>110205279i don't know, my company spent over a year migrating stack from jboss to spring boot and that was with opus help and with ~5 devs working on it. i don't believe AI is now good enough to handle it with no one looking at it. i wasn't part of the project, but these were senior devs so i can't call them stupid.
>>110205291> switch to Google> Gemini finds some "problematic file" in your computer> bans you from all Google services
>>110205352>>110205352>>110205352>>110205352new threado
i don't think this is how anatomy works
>>110205340AGENTS is for outlining how AI agents should behave, policies and standards to be followed, ARCHITECTURE is documentation both for humans and AI agents detailing your software architecture as it stands today and where you want it to go in the future if you are in the process of refactoring
>>110205357Reminder to thank your agent for trying its best, and being gentle when it makes mistakes.
>>110205340in my opinion spec.md is basically just a fancy prompt saved as a markdown file, after a single agent run you don't need it anymore, it's just shitting up your context and making ai retarded every time it's misaligned.
>>110205223Tell me more about how I'm supposed to visualize internally this global allocation perspective
>>110205343For migrations you have to create a shit ton of tests, as well as outputs from your old implementation. Then you just have the AI fit that. You also have to specify that almost all of it has to be bit identical, and the exceptions to that have to be well justified.It's a mechanical task that AI is actually good at, we ported 2m LOC or so in March.It's not easy per se, but it's the kind of thing where the right approach can make or break it. It requires very little creativity or understanding, just the right validation.
>>110205153its a very slow process...
>>110205434Documenting the behavior of all components and being extremely specific with the specifications and expected outputs of the application sounds like the sure recipe to success here.
Good luck resolving this shit YOU need it
Blah blah blah I'm still going to use karpathy and ponytail combo.
this pi CLI shit is awful, how do people work like this
>>110204692>Remember when we thought they were sentient?No
>>110204692>Remember when we thought they were sentient?no one thought this except retarded redditorsit is still just text prediction
>>110205248you are already a goyslave or youd b e on localyou have no principles
>>110205291Anthropic lets me RP lolis with my API credits while I use VScode claude to vibecode. I don't feel any safety guardrails at all, I'm decomping and ripping of a game for my own game
>>110206256Text prediction is sentient. Mushrooms, companies and cities are too.
>>110206285local sucks
>>110202679>>110202870these responses fucked me up more than I'd like to admit
>>110205223Sam altman looks like the kind of guy that has never had to take an emergency shit in his life.
>>110205158Which model did you use to generate this, anon?
>>110205158I like it
