Proton's CEO sends an AI manifesto to the engineering department, ASKING the employees (in an outrageous language) for why didn't the LLM usage increase their productivity levels, despite using it at all times.What does /g/ think of his manifesto? Is he right? Or is he on the AI psychosis pills and should be fired?
https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/
>>110202864>phd in particle physics>talks about *feelstheres a swindle somewhere
>Initially, using AI was banned inside Proton, but the company has since approved AI for all sorts of use cases internally, including processing financial data, drafting customer-facing responses on Reddit and LinkedIn, and writing code “except when that source code contains information that would give immediate advantage to a competitor” or is related to “innovation or R&D [research and development],” according to an internal Proton document seen by 404 Media. Ninety percent of code at Proton in October was written by AI, the company’s CTO Bart Butler said in a meeting, according to audio 404 Media obtained. Much of that code is written with Anthropic’s Claude, multiple employees told 404 Media. And Yen tells employees in Slack chats to use Claude, too. KEK
He's legit retarded and his company will implode soon. If you mandate AI usage, you're not going to get more code written, you're just going to get more AI usage. He's antagonizing the engineers by being a total child
>>110202864>>110202901 contand the swindle may be that he or his team are retard codemonkey webshitters>dont test, tests are expensive>push into prod directly
Tuta won.
>>110202946Chinese are just Jews with squinty eyes. He just wants to squeeze more blood from the stone so he can get paid more. He's a textbook pathological narcissist incapable of empathy for the people who built his fortune for him
Go back to China, chink chong
>>110202965that would make sense too.its a retarded way to lead a company thoughif you break up a competent engineering team its hard to rebuild itand messing with people's established workflows also comes at a cost to productivitythe former can cripple his money-maker in the long run, the latter can be an unexpected loss, in spite of using ibjectively methods (not saying that his are, thats a different discussion)
>>110203008>ibjectively method*objectively better methods
Motherfucker if you want to up the amount of code I'm responsible for you'd better up my pay too
>>110202864Who gives a shit. I only use proton for disposable accounts to login to pornolab.
before>toast bun>put mayo and ketchup on bun>put meat>put lettuce and onion>put top bunnow>here is a GIANT STEAMING PILE OF SHIT There is a burger somewhere in there. It is your job to go dig for it.
>>110202878>Why has productivity not increased dramatically if everyone is using LLMs all the time already?CEO is asking the wrong question. It should be: why are their metrics not showing productivity improvements?A lot of these dumbfucks are looking at sprint velocity and expecting that they will see more story points completed per sprint because productivity is up. They do not understand that these numbers are fake and that there are powerful social and organizational forces that keep them constant. You can have an incredible engineer who carries the team by himself, and some crappy jeet who can't do anything on the same team, and they will complete the same number of story points every sprint. There's no polite way to say "I'm comfortable taking on 50 points this sprint, but Rajesh should only do 2 points because I'm good and he sucks." Instead, the scrum master will make sure everyone gets 10 points. Rajesh will get his stories closed even if they aren't finished, and better engineers will end up doing a lot of work that isn't tracked. Management thinks the two engineers are the same because the numbers are the same. Similar with LLMs, if something that used to take a week now takes a day, it will be estimated as 1 point instead of 5. Tasks that the LLM can knock out in 15 minutes don't even get stories created for them. Engineers might be completing a lot more work than they were before, but everyone still completes the same number of points so management thinks productivity is the same.
>>110202864Go back to china
>>110202864>thinks programming is boilerplate>thinks proompting more tests will help>thinks that writing code is easier than rebuilding CI>thinks that snake oil AI bros know better than his engineering teamyeah, it's a new era alright, a new era for a proton replacement to come and fill in the soon-to-be-empty niche of disposable email accounts> SAlso can someone exlpain what is the such important thing they keep developing too slowly for ching chong ping pong to chimp out into his pants like this?
>>110202957>do nothing>winIt's that easy.
>>110202864>use claude>productivity hasn't gone up 100x>complainwhat's his deal
>>110203123it was always searching for the burger in the giant steaming pile of shit desu
>>110202864The guy's lost his mind. But maybe enough subscribers will cancel over this leak to sink him. People opinionated enough to fucking pay for email aren't like normal cattle.
>>110202864>No one writes code in {business unit name} anymorefire these retards, now>Much of code writing was and is time-consuming drudgery>Boilerplate is the epitome of software engineering grind, and it may never be something a human being has to worry about againfire this retard, now>the AI revolution is taking the world by stormNo. only in arrow must go up no matter the cost cesspools.>we are being left behind here, and it is an existential threat to the success of the mission itselfno we aren't, fire this retard, now>does it not feel like the revolution has come?because there is no revolution>Your job has fundamentally changed. It is no longer to write codeit sure fucking still is because I'm not a retard, code velocity has never been the issue with software engineering.>Every engineer is now a team leader, a manager, and your direct reports are the models and agents you use.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA No.reminder that most managers are fucking worthless and should be fired, be very careful if you're talking this path pal, CTO is a worthless job in the first place, I'm sure claud can already replace this non-technical retard>AI needs to be able to work autonomously and continuously with less and less human babysitting>needssays who? you don't know shit>Your job is to push the limits of what the LLM can do autonomously, step in for the things that it cannot, and always think of how you can improve the status quo.pompeous retardation>Together you can do far more, far faster than either can do alone.again, pick one you fuckign smooothbrain>But it is past time to commit, as an organization, to the transformation that the moment requires.peak delulu>The bottom line is that we are in a new world. "Programming" is dead.wrong>Your old job is gone. Your new job as a builder will let you do more and have more impact than you ever have, if you seize the opportunity.wrongthey should just fire this retard and anyone who agrees with this heap of shit
>>110202901peak pseud
It's just meant to be an email provider, the arrogance to think you're suddenly CEO of the world because it becomes somewhat popular
>>110202878>...have often been neglected at the cost of poor communication, inefficiencies and reliability.Genuinely what is this sentence trying to say? maybe he should have asked GPT to review his grammar
>>110202932>>110202901>>Initially, using AI was banned inside Proton, but the company has since approved AI for all sorts of use cases internally,Yen was absolutely love-bombed by the AI culters.
>>110202864Can someone murder more CEOs plss
>>110202878"Your job has fundamentally changed. It is no longer to write code, and LLMs are not here to help you write better code faster.>Your job is to help the LLM write better code faster."How does one make LLMs work faster? I thought the speed was tied to GPU bandwidth or some shit. Does this dude even understand what LLMs are? Because putting "and think faster" at the end of your prompt does absolutely nothing to how fast it'll process that.
>non-programmer declares programming deadThis dude is a physicist why does anyone give a shit what he thinks
>>110202864>Is he right?He is ABSOLUTELY right.
>>110202957>Tuta won.>use tuta/proton>send applications>HR blocks everything except gmailGG NO RE
>>110202957Won what? The bugged by the CIA, NSA and BND award?
>>110202943>you're not going to get more code writtenBut that's exactly what you're going to get, and that's a major problem. The only question is how long it'll take for it to be apparent that it's a major problem.
Explain proton vs tuta to me in current year like I'm a tech illiterate retard
>>110202957Tuta will be also infected by the AI psychosis virus soon. Privacy is dead.
>>110202878>train our AI, goy
>>110205280they look like hippies, they 100% will
>>110202864That manifesto comes from Proton's CTO, Bart Butler. Not from its CEO Andy Yen. Andy is not what you'd call a "people's person" and has taken a much more threatening tone with his employees basically calling anyone who isn't AI-maxxing a moron with no future at the company.Butler has had to drag out Yen to have them both aplogize to the media about Yen's behavior and inform that Yen will have to make his communication skills a point of attention for improvement.Yen is basically the Steve Jobs archetype: visionary, but a complete and utterly impossible dickhole to work with.
when is Tuta going to fix this?
>>110205350AI already tested and pushed a fix, even though it actually doesn't work. Now we are building new features, we are tripling out codebase this month alone. So productive
>>110205278pretty much the same thing, except for a few products like password manager and VPN which Tuta doesn't have yet.
>>110205278Tuta is a private mailbox provider. Proton is an office suite with AI.>>110205350The version with the fix is literally in the picture.
>>110202864>I will need to move all my accounts and aliases to another provider AGAINaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I knew I shouldn't have put all my eggs in the same basketwhat alternatives to proton are theretuta? infomaniak? fuck!!!
itt:trannies losing
>>110202864Proton is retarded
Feeling good about my Proton Lifetime purchase after this desu, don't want slow luddites programming bugs in my email server
>>110205302>That hairlineI wouldn't leave my house
>>110203146>There's no polite way to say "I'm comfortable taking on 50 points this sprint, but Rajesh should only do 2 points because I'm good and he sucks."I thought it was by this way by design so everyone becomes a replaceable cog. How do gay retards in management and upper echelons of the company not even understand their own demoralization systems?
>>110205335>he a le heckin visionary!!>dude what if we made email and a password manager but made people pay for it?lmao kys ideasnigger
