Literally the only slop-free text editor left.
i like vim motions
>>110211829> Muh vim motionsWhy do vimtards still use this as an argument. On emacs you literally have the most freedom in terms of motions: You can use default bindings, evil mode, meow and a lot more
Emacs is not a "text-editor".
>>110211824Why is the logo a coiled turd?
>>110211824I'm using a version of neovim from like two years ago.
>>110211824No wonder this thing is still slower than vscode
>>110211824Have they fixed the wrist pain problem?
VSCode users and neovimmers don't understand. I look at my coworkers using vsc and that default color scheme with the blue colored variables in disgust. They don't know the keyboard shortcuts and strictly use mouse to click on stuff. Its disgusting!
literally the origin of all slopful plugin garbage, still using vim with only two plugins and none of them are important
I'm surprised editors/IDEs would sloppify themselves since most vibecoders don't even use them and see them as "obsolete".
>>110211970skill issue
I use vi
Reminder that Cudatext exists
>>110211824i use the white man's text editor: elvis
i prefer Geany
>>110212957the other alternative is to die
>>110211970Vicodin solves this
Write by hand and make the compiler scan the paper
>>110214035Since vibecoders don't care, shouldn't it be better to try to appeal to the anti-LLM people who are autistic about this?If you sloppify then you're still not getting the vibecoders and now not even the hand-coders.
>>110211824Glorious
>>110211824vis is slop-freehttps://github.com/martanne/vishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y41MyOrPt8Q
>>110211882It is and then some!
>>110211824> eight megabytes and constantly swapping
>>110217244These days, 8MB isn't that bad.
>>110217254Hogging 8MB for your own personal computer is insane and antiseptic.
>>110211829This >>110211874 and also you are retarded cattle redditor. Vim motion (and related memes like """"emacs pinky"""") come from nigger redditors that wanted to feel like l33t hax0r in the terminal and that couldn't use emacs to save their lives because they're too low iq, while most emacs users can use vim in their sleep. Modal editing is a meme coming from obsoleted hardware anywhere. Reminder that pic related is the ONLY reason vim is modal.Reminder that Bill Joy admitted that he would make vi non-modal if he were to redesign it today and that modal is inferior to non-modal.
>>110211829They are vi motions, not vim.>>110211874>evil modeEmacs has viper-mode built in.>>110217836No more brother wars. Both keybindings are far removed from their original context, but keybindings are kind of besides the point of vi vs Emacs. vi is minimal, Emacs is maximalist. Only a vimtard thinks it's only about keybindings, because vim (and the other meme editors like it) is just a shittier Emacs thinking it's an "improved vi". elvis is improved vi.>Bill Joy admitted that he would make vi non-modal if he were to redesign it todayI wouldn't listen to old farts past their prime. They tend to undersell and second guess their previous achievements. Dudes probably frying his brain on LLMs now.
>>110211824I wish I could just boot straight to emacs. The only things I wish for a nicer 3D GUI and have some JS rendering engine to browse the web.
>>110211824https://vim-classic.org/
>>110218144Buy an ad.https://web.archive.org/web/20261016115151/https://dmpwn.info/
>>110211824https://martanne.github.io/vis/
>>110218144>HELP CHILDREN IN UGANDA>trans and palestine flagswhy do tech people do this?
>>110211824Just spent a weekend slopifying my init.el, solving a long list of issues, prohibitively time consuming to do myself, by needlessly convoluted jerry-rigging. Emacs is surprisingly well-suited for the AI age with how moldable it is.
>>110211829>>110211824vim-classic by Drew Devault
>>110218144I kinda tolerated kids in Uganda for being a standard charity, but what in the politics is this shit?
>>110218393drew is a lolcow but vim-classic is a legitimately good idea. vim is more or less finished software. maybe there are a couple bugs to fix but what new features do people actually need?
>>110213883Looks great on the surface. But literally who is Alexey T?, is he russian??
>>110212991goo goo gaa gaa
>>110218144dropped
>>110219795I'm in with the Palestine one desu.
emacs is the definition of slop and bloatware since the 80s
>>110220089I still get a chuckle that emacs ships stuff like M-x tetris and M-x spookKinda sovl desu
>>110213802I use mg
>>110217237Emacs is _not_ a text-editor.
>>110220257Don't forget M-x doctor. That's the original clanker
>>110218567>Drew Devaultfaggot
>>110211882yes, it is.
>>110211824It's literally designed to be slop and has always been designed to be slop. It's the bells and whistles editor. It's the editor that's supposed to replace everything else you use your machine for. Like, running qutebrowser within an emacs frame. Running an e-mail client in emacs. Perl scripting for all of it. Muscle memory you've refined for a decade or more. That is emacs.emacs is meant to be slop, and that is okay, it is what makes it emacs
>>110223516Emacs is NOT a text-editor.
>>110223795It's a text editor and so much more.
>>110223640trvke
>>110223795cope
learning curve is too high. vim is easier to use.
>>110211989>he doesnt use the mousecringelord
>>110227386lulwut
>>110217173Seconding this
>>110213883Hi, so far everything is great, very fast and easy to use, looks like a great alternative to Notepad++. It's amazing to see someone who also cares about old systems and hardware.
>>110230566>Notepad++wasnt this hacked
Kwrite
>>110211989i use vscode at work with default settingsi simply dont care enough to customize
>>110213883I wish i wasn't lazy i'd write a couple of little plugin integrations with KDE/Plasma for this>>110214185You can't squeeze value from luddites, they don't buy your plugins or services, they write them themselves or never needed them in the first place. AI goycoders may eat the bait and buy your totally necessary antrophic/Claude integration/use the respective referal code. Besides, for the Emacs autists, they actually want to use this shit, too.
>>110232597Bullshit
>>110232553no the executable itself wasn't the update process was this has since been fixed
>>110211824Why do text editors even matter anymore? As long as they can browse code, they should be good enough nowadays. Like, who even writes code manually anymore lmao?
>>110234970The anti ai coper will never be able to answer this.
>>110211824lite-xl
>>110211824for nowhttps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2026-10/msg00508.htmlresponses to this letter make me feel some emacs devs really itch to start vibecoding and can't wait for llm embargo to end
>>110227386emacs was easier to pick up for me than vim. vim is pretty bad at answering the question what actions are available for me right now. I had to constantly refer to stackexchange for how to do something and manuals very not very helpful.In emacs I was good to go after I figured C-h keys and M-x customize
>>110211874why would i sit there and nigger rig every atom of emacs to control like vim when i could just use vim?
