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>>110222260
>software engineer
Is this real life?
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>>110222260
>they gave me a loot bag which validated my existence
how do these ,,people'' live
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>>110222260
>I also panicked because I forgot my keyboard and mouse at home
Work places like that don't expect you to be bringing your own peripherals what the fuck is this? Even a small sweat shop will supply you with peripherals and a laptop.
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>>110222260
If I cut off my dick can I also get paid six figures to eat slop and play vidya and pretend to "work"?
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>>110222326
I bring my own keyboard because I'm picky and they gave me some garbage rubber dome keyboard.
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>>110222369
You can do this without cutting your dick off but it's essentially the same.
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I just want to work a help desk job, why can’t I find any positions for this that don’t require 5 years of experience in help desk?
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>>110222591
They're all in India where every jeet fakes having 10 years of experience at the age of 16
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>>110222564
no you can't lol
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what do I do now that Front End development is basically dead?
Do I just migrate to fullStack development?
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>>110223205
You migrate to back-end, but even that profession is out the door thanks to AI.
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>>110222642
>He doesn't know that 10% of the workforce does all of the work while everyone else pretends
Anon did you just graduate college with this naiveté or were you born with it?
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>>110223492
so what now?
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>>110223575
that's for you to figure out
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I have an interview tomorrow.
I have been job hunting for 3 years at this point.
I'm so fucking burnt out I can't fucking bring myself to prepare.
I hate my life
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>>110223592
I'll pray for you friend.
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>>110223592
Unironically, how do you survive for 3 years without a job?
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>>110223939
mom and dad
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>>110222260
I should heat back from Amazon and one other place tomorrow. I expect rejection from Amazin and will be grinding Neetcode November
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>>110223893
Thanks.
>>110223939
My parents thankfully have been supporting me.
Still doesn't feel good to be useless at this age
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>>110223968
>Neetcode
the actual jeet version of leetcode
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>>110224127
I thought it was recommended over raw leetcode on /g/? I guess that doesn't make it less-jeet
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Why are there two threads?
Also reposting my question.
Since no one hires entry level devs anymore, how is QA doing? Somewhat safe from the AI apocalypse?
Would I pigeonhole myself into something that I won't be able to branch out later?
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>>110224133
I have no idea why you would think that. It's literally just leetcode but made by a jeet, with less problems, and only supports jeet languages like python and javascript.
the nigga that made the website is literally called navdeep singh.
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you guys are sleeping on leetcode, it's literally never been this easy to get hired
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>>110223975
>useless at this age
Don't leave us in the dark. What age? If you're under 27, I would say it's 100% fine in the current environment. If you're under 30, you should have sorted things out by now but some people still don't manage it. If you're over 30 and have never lived alone, I'm afraid I agree that you might be useless. But remember that it's never too late to turn things around.
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>>110224377
28.
Spent some time for a masters degree.
I'm just so tired at this point.
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m-maybe if I get a masters degree I'll get hired
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>>110224406
That's about perfect then. I think I was 27 or 28 when I got my first good job. The people who get good jobs when they're like 22 always turn into weirdos as they get older. The suffering of one's 20s is what makes us human.
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>>110224406
Tired from what? You have 62 years left to go
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>>110224438
nigga you're lucky if you live to 70
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>>110224428
That's good to hear I guess.
I feel like I've suffered enough though.
Pressure makes diamonds but also makes rubble or some shit.
>>110224438
I feel that if I get a job though I'll be able to succeed.
I'll have a direct task to focus all my energy on.
I'm bouncing between job description to job description reinventing myself every time to try and appeal to the specific one.
I feel like my energy is spread so thin around because its a pure numbers game as well these days.
Spend too much energy in one specific position? Filtered by AI.
Send out applications to everywhere? Filtered by 80%.
I'm sick of tailoring my answers, my resume my persona to every single company just to get nowhere.
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https://leetcode.com/problems/minimum-operations-to-sort-with-locked-indices/
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I did a post graduate course in front end engineering and now ill try doing one in A.I. really seems like the only thing people are hiring for.
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>>110224444
you can push it to 90 if you don't workout too much
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>>110222260
reminder: majority workers do very little actual contribution
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>>110224312
I don't want to work with a bunch of retards and help keep the shittiest companies on the planet going for even one more second.
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>>110222295
thats a cool webm but the captions are cancer.
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how do you unemployables feel about the ending of sunday?
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>>110225734
Even while unemployed, Sundays feel comfier than Mondays, sucks but it's not the end of the world.
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Everyone is always rooting for you. Your parents want you to be a great son. Your interviewer wants you to be a slam dunk hire. Every first date you’ve ever been on they’ve been rooting for you to get laid. Every time you started to tell a joke people hoped it would have a hilarious punch line. Your proximity to anyone is a reflection of themself, meaning the deck is never stacked against you, and your failures are completely your own.
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>>110226255
then how come you ended up spamming frogs on /g/ frognigger?
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>>110226255
L M A O
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>>110222260
I love going for lunch after accidentally deleting a production database
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>>110222260
I feel kinda weird seeing people work like this, getting top 3% income. Is USA the best place to work and live?
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>>110226624
~1/4 tech workers make ~350k or more TC. That TC is often not actually realistic because the equity is in a private company and it will likely be taken from you (<1y churn, very common scam tactic by fast growing startups, or you will be diluted so much the 200k of equity TC will turn into more like 20k by the time you can realize it). IPOs are also often a shitshow, typically the stable price level is about half the IPO start price, and there is a block to selling equity if you're a peon worker to between 6 months and a year after the IPO started. If you're lucky it slides back up slowly during that year before the employees can sell. In most cases it slides down a lot. If the company gets acquired and you have unvested shares, often they get nuked in the acquisition (but sometimes they instead convert to the other company).

For salary alone, "only" ~5% of tech workers make ~300k+ in salary.

And this is when accounting for ~1/5 workers live in the bay area (which effectively the only place these salaries or tc can be found).

The fact is most tech workers in the US don't make that much.

US is one of the worst places in the developed world to live in, but it's a fantastic place to get money, likely the single best. This includes if you want to start a company, or if you want a high salary, etc.
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>>110226624
It really depends on your income bracket. If you are into at least top 5% then there's no better country to work and live. Go down the ladder and your life experience starts to deteriorate fast. For the bottom 50% it's third world kind of conditions.
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>>110226705
All those high salaries go straight into the pockets of boomer landlords that hold the housing market by the balls.
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>>110226713
Yes, I should have been clearer when I tried to explain that these salaries or TC mean living in the bay area.

But even when accounting for this, you still come out ahead if you really are in the top 5% of all tech workers in the US.
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>>110222326
she is one of those morons who have a special keyboard because it gives them a sense of identity.
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>>110226716
Doubt.jpg those mongoloids all fall into the luxury trap taking out gigantic loans for their villas and lifestyles.
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>>110226730
I've never seen that. What usually happens is they live in a tiny shoebox or a slightly less tiny shoebox with a roommate and don't see the problem with living like that at age 35.

The meme lifestyle is usually the domain of young funded CEOs. They blow everything on a fat salary and company parties, go bankrupt, tell the next investors they learned their lesson, and do it all over again.

What I see with the debt is that they are paid, say, 100k salaries at 300k tc, so they take a loan against the 200k they can't actually sell, because they need it to pay the 60k yearly rent and 30k of basic life expense, cover tax and insurances, car costs, etc., and leave a bit to have a night out sometimes.
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>>110226761
Why do mongoloids actively choose to live like this tho? Might as well mooch off of mom in her basement.
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Any UK man in?

I got a solid offer and I thought things were finally coming together then they pulled it last second so now I'm back here.
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>>110226808
Most people don't comprehend expenses, only top-line TC numbers, and get blinded by it. The single most common plan for people who do this is "I'll just work there 5-10 years then leave and retire". However, because they don't understand vesting schedules, cost of life, taxes, unforeseen expenses, market downturns, and other parts of real life, they end up either giving up with some decent savings, but not enough to retire, go broke and are forced to move back home, or stay 25 years with sunk cost fallacy, usually leading to stockholm syndrome-like effects ("I've lived all my adult life here, all my friends are here, I'm scared of leaving it all behind" and "it's not so bad after all, I've survived so far, I can live here a bit longer").


Furthermore, if you're young and you got an offer to try that out out of college or just a couple years in, it's a genuinely good opportunity to test this lifestyle. You have no dependents yet, you can still live dorm-style a while to get your footing, likely no pet, definitely no house, and hopefully this will open doors later in your career as you will have FAGMAN on your resume, or a startup that became a new brand name (even better than FAGMAN).

It is interesting that if you ignore house equity from tech boomers who bought before prices skyrocketed, the proportion of US tech millionaires by net worth to overall US population millionaires is about the same as the salary percentile - not TC percentile - of US tech workers to US population.
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>>110226846
>all my friends are here
Given turnover rates in the industry you'd be lucky to have friends that stay longer than two years let alone 25
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>>110226846
So basically former tech lead, former millionaire, former husband thing waiting to happen
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>>110226853
You're thinking of colleagues, not friends. By friends I mean "the weird guy you met at the bar 25 years ago and you ended up hanging out every weekend since".

The turnover is a major reason for the alignment of millionaire status to salary percentile and not tc percentile: the little non-salary tc that's captured is eaten up by higher COL, and only a fraction of the tc is captured as usual terms are 4y vest 1y cliff.

>>110226858
Yes, for most people, that's the reality of it.
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>>110222260
How do I start living like this if I have zero tech job experience?
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>>110227388
Be a white woman who will vote Democrat and never breed if sufficiently bribed (this fake daycare job is the bribe)
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>>110227494
>who will vote Democrat
I don't even live in the US (or in any first world country for that matter)
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>>110227499
Consider kysing yourself
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>>110227506
No
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why is 4chan so dead these days? Did everyone get a job?
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>>110227596
I have a job, but it's shit.
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>>110223975
>>My parents thankfully have been supporting me.
>>110224406
>28.
Imagine being this big of a leech
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>>110224312
no serious employer is using leetcode in the hiring process anymore, anon.
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>>110224444
reminder that 35 is "middle age".
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>>110226713
False. I own my home, and almost all my money stays in pocket to reinvest in property upgrades :)
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>>110227958
great advice from the unemployed
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>>110227971
so you're still wasting money on housing, sadge
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>>110222319
you realize she is self-aware and is actually rage baiting right?
men think these women are just retarded but they're literally outflanking you, they're basically doing what you did on 4chan for the past 15 years just with 100x more effectiveness
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>>110228744
>simps actually believe this
Lol
Lmao even
Have you tried actually interacting with a real woman, not an instathot?
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>>110228761
what does this even mean?
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Thought I'd come up with a few creative ideas for solutions (half in jest).

>Learn a foreign language and move to foreign country to leverage near/offshoring
>Writing resume in Hebrew
>Claiming to be Hispanic
>Becoming one of those leftist loser people who gripe about everything
>Joining religious activities just for the networking
>Joining a religious monastery so you never have to worry about anything again
>Taking civil service exams
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>>110228628
Upgrading and improving things in and around my house isn't "wasting money."
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>>110226260
because frog poster =/= unemployed.
nigger.
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>>110222296
the first day, yes.
3 months later, no.
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>>110229553
if you think that customizing your house for you is an "investment" then indeed you are a boomer-tier retard. Enjoy the granite countertops.
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>>110226624
With globalisation being what it is, a handful of American companies are basically the entire global economy. They make profits that you should be making in your country. You cannot compete with the existing global behemoths, and if you can, they will buy up your company and shut you down. All the trillions in the roughly 200 national economies on the planet all end up in Silicon Valley, where investors send all their money because that's where all the other money already is. With that much money concentrated so mercilessly, is it really that surprising that Americans make 3-4 times what the rest of us do?

>>110226817
Yes. Was it the civil service tax job I told you to apply for?
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I bombed the Amazon OA but the fact I got to technicals for the first time in years means the market might be recovering. I think companies may be realizing if they kill off all junior hiring for AI, OpenAI/Antropic have them by the balls and will just kill them by raising token pricing when their current seniors are out.
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>>110223975
I think this proves how low the marginal cost of sustaining an extra person is.
Like you could have still lived with your parents and such just giving them some 100 dollars a week from a dead end job and everyone would be better off.
I don't know why people chose to be NEETs instead of working as a cashier on Walmart like everybody else. Not saying that's the case here tho.
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doing a master and i have to drop out of the ML course. I cannot be bothered, it's fucking boring stats and calculus. I mostly forgot that shit and don't feel like doing the math shit again.
I really am a code one trick it seems, I read these internship offers about more eletronic, or civil, or materials, or mechanical engineering, and they all sound dreadful. I only like software ones (no embedded). Those are extremely rare too compared to AI/ML/LLM postings

idk what to do
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>>110232974
NTA but I think people feel like if they're going to work, they want to be able to make progress.
Not saying you can't do that working a mcjob living at home, especially if you're stuck doing it for a hot minute like a lot of CSfags have currently been fucked.
People tend to think their rut will only last "a few more weeks" at a time though, and mcjobs don't pay enough for you to actually live on your own.
If McDonald's paid the $60k/yr you need to even just rent as a single adult here I'd put the fries in the bag, adult kids just don't want to go to work full time and still deal with the same "under your parent's roof" bullshit hat comes with being a NEET anyway.
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>>110233431
>>110232974
I misread that other part about giving them some money.
Yeah I think that's ideal, pitching in from time to time. I know a few remote workers that live with their parents because the housing market is just hyper-fucked, but I think helping out eases the friction as much as the situation allows, anyway. Like I replaced all the broken kitchen appliances and that let my folks go on vacation for their anniversary instead of shelling out that money replacing stuff that broke.
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>>110233128
>internship offers about more eletronic, or civil, or materials, or mechanical engineering, and they all sound dreadful
how is working with real things more dreadful than learning yet another FoM js framework?
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>>110226255
I want to believe
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>>110233760
Pays like ass, can't even survive alone in many places.
Some imply breaking your body.
Job stability depends a lot on what kind. Can be even worse than tech work.
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>>110233816
solve this nigga
https://leetcode.com/problems/minimum-moves-to-equal-array-elements-iii
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>>110233837
it's just the sum of the differences from all elements to the largest element....
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>>110222260
>set up dev app
>contributed to some projects
i hate my life
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i got a job
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>>110222260
Hi /g/!

Im off to one of my jobs that pays 1/2 a person. Fortunately this one is easy but loong. Not unlike my more regular fast food job. Which pays 1/2 a person and expects 2x a person work. Been doing this for 4months and have made no money! Hehehe well every dollar ive made has been spent. New iphone for mom + grok super plan = 4 months of literally back breaking work 0 days off no insurance. Tehehehe im gonna die like this.
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>>110234239
Get the FUCK out of here you swine
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>>110222260
I'm the precedent of a c corp of which i own 100%, so i'm not a neet by definition
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>>110234269
>>110234239
whats the commute like
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>>110222642
nobody will check if you have testicles brainiac, just wear skirts and makeup and follow current things
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>>110234559
I interpret this as cutting your dick off (i.e. in the metaphorical sense).
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>>110227958
no serious employer is employing anymore, so the leetcode trash is all that is left. if a shitty firm is the only one that employs you need to play their humiliation game of memorizing crap algorithms.
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>>110226624
>women in a daycare job
>trying to replicate that as a man
you failed the first step
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>24 poo in loo applications



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