Previous: >>110223379It's Actually SD 1.5 Edition>UIsComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIKritaAI: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionForge Classic/Neo: https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classicInvokeAI: https://github.com/invoke-ai/InvokeAI>Image ModelsIL: https://rentry.org/illustrious_checkpointsAnima: https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/AnimaKrea: https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-TurboNovelAI (paid): https://novelai.netMoss: https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image>Video ModelsH3: https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3Turbo lora: included above>How to generate anime:image : https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlvideo: https://rentry.org/wan22ldgguide (No H3 guide yet)>Style ExplorersAnima: https://anima.mooshieblob.com/ | https://animadex.net/Illustrious: https://tagexplorer.github.io>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.comhttps://tensor.arthttps://openmodeldb.infohttps://www.seaart.aihttps://www.liblib.art/>Resources:Share Metadata: https://litterbox.catbox.moeImg2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneOnline metadata viewer SD/NovelAI: https://spell.novelai.devCatbox/Metadata Userscript: [Gist] README.mdOutput cleanup: https://rentry.org/RemovingDiffusionGunk , https://www.mediafire.com/file/vipr23exc5htmnt (batch processing python script)Inpainting Guide from an Anon: https://files.catbox.moe/fbzsxb.jpg >>106520607>/adt/ logo:https://files.catbox.moe/pakfgt.png
why is this stupid motherfucker using such disgusting pictures for the thread
>>110232335Because it's a trollbake. Ignore it.
>>110232324
I finally got a good mix of Anima loras. Are you telling me I have to move on to MOSS now?
>>110232340Nah dude, not talking about you or people in our boat, thanks for the link though. I mean the ones calling the shots with finetunes. Like that Noobcorder guy yesterday who blew $1000 on a failed bake just like that.
>>110232335I like the OP picture>>110232335Why don't you like it?>>110232352Why is a troll bake?
>>110232698nah. if youre using artists stick with anima since moss doesnt know artists. or see if the same loras exist for moss
can someone make a collage
Are the NAI bullies gone yet? Is it safe to post my local gens now?
here's a video
>>110233130nothing against this post in particular, but do people actually like these kinds of 2d animations? as in the kind that looks like a bunch of static layers just moved/stretched around?
>>110233152I have one with Dream Journey that has 1.2k likes on Tiktok and one of Kokona Sunohara on IG with 642 likes and almost 10k views (this one I actually didn't like that much). So yeah of course some people like it.
>>110232141>UWAA... is this made by a real manga artist or AI?The actual thing that would happen if it really looked like art is that it would blend with the rest of the fanart that gets posted all the time, falling to bring any attention to itself, and much less to the model. Does posting a "real artist" picture makes everyone stop what they're doing to talk about it? That never happens. To most people, this wouldn't matter, because they're doing it for themselves. But NAI has a subscription to sell and blending with the noise doesn't help. That's what shills are hired to prevent. They come over and say "is this NAI?" to bring attention to a gen. Then they samefag a bit complimenting it and then ask "is it worth it?" and then they samefag a bit more to say "of course". None of that is real. It's pretty systematic if you watch /v/.Same problem on Twitter. Now people that are actually smart solved this by giving the model its own style, or some kind of fingerprint. That's why you can tell how often people use ChatGPT at a glance, which is a good thing for the company. NAI is just coping with spam and trolling because it's the only way they can bring attention to themselves.
I'm back on these threads y'all
>>110232335Cute slampig
>>110233162Thats bullshit. You could post an animated poop emoji and some people would see it in those apps.
>>110233371sour grapes the post
>>110233228Cute takolfoid
>>110233162If I opened social media and I saw that slop doomscrolling I'd legit crash out
Stop slopping loras and vibecode a better open source model RIGHT NOW!>>110230049
>>110234705Thank you for the NAI gens
>>110234705Are you using an artist tag for these?
>>110234740Several.
>>110234705>>110234769Oh thank you, my eyes needed this.
>>110233130How long until you start making things like the pic related?
Artists like Ishidaya have very good sex poses and angles. I trained anima/sdxl loras on him but NAI just completely wipes the floor with them.
>>110234918Even a full finetune of Anima or Illustrious or whatever doesn't fix the local stiffnes, hoping this Noob DiT finetune (maybe on Krea 2 base???) can finally get rid of that.
>>110234971The elephant in the room I think, is that NAI isnt even a DiT model, its a custom u-net with a 32 channel vae, that's its magic. So uhhh, what exactly is NOOB DiT gonna achieve? Without NAI's dataset, it will just be slower than Anima for no good reason, but I truly hope im wrong, at the very least should be better than MOSS.
>>110234971Have you tried controlnet? It's very good at keeping the composition intact.
>>110234769Cool background. Did you have to inpaint the names for hotels to something coherent or did NAI just put them there by itself?
>>110234995NAI is really good at adding details you never prompted and they fit the context instead of feeling random.
>>110235008Sure, I just saw some previews from devs when V5 wasn't released yet and the signs and labels in these crowded urban settings were random and garbled.
>>110234995I prompted for the names and rolled a few times until I liked the way it put them.
>>110235029Thanks, yeah, I figured. Have to prompt for them.
>>110235029Noooooooo you didnt spend 10 hours editing that single image in paint.net and controlnet and inpainting its not really yours its not really yours its no
>>110234994Yeah, I've used ControlNet to not for hentai. I got a bit snobby and used classical sculptures as the base, trying to make memes like pic rel with Miku as Jesus and Teto as the Virgin Mary. At low denoise the body keeps Jesus's male anatomy, and at high denoise I get Miku but the pose turns generic and loses the statue's expression.
>>110235032I don't think any pure image generation model is going to come up with reasonable text, except maybe for sound effects. Coming up with text is O(n) and image generation is O(1). That's why short, constant bits of text like ビク can work unprompted, they are just an object and can be covered in the general O(1) capacity.>>110235046Actually, I draweded the whole thing in Jasc Paint Shop Pro.
>>110235054AI can't understand gravity yet.
Dataset creator is taking shape. I dumped tcl and switched to qt6, it looks so much better. I'm building it on my hermes-agent machine, which is a low-power intel box. All the neural network stuff uses iGPU, which is a little faster than CPU. Captioning itself will require openrouter credits, and I have not built that part yet.Here's a screenshot from testing on Kill Me Baby, which is a very easy show because there's just four characters.
>>110235054Funny tho pure txt2img
>>110235198curious about your approach if I had to train a lora of this character from only those 4 images, I would go with 3 and 4 since they capture the blonde girl most accurately am I being too picky or can the model handle the more exaggerated screenshots without hurting the result
>>110235209your metadata bwo?
>>110235318Nyo, make gpt slop make a prompt for you lazy ass
my oc :3
>>110233944then why is your negroid retarded ass in this thread?>>110233852they could see that but you can't clearly see that the post says the amount of likes it has
>>110235456you made the stock sillytavern girl?
>>110235232If you look in the cap there's 1028 images of Sonya, it just shows 4 at a time because if you move back from the monitor a bit you can pretty quickly see if a character is in all the images. ccip_grounding is pretty good at finding characters, so this is really just for minor clean-up. Usually I'm skipping pages and just unchecking a few.This tool is focused on making "show" level datasets. It tries to even out the characters to no more than 100 images each. While "show" LoRAs are fun, the ultimate goal is a properly-leveled dataset of canon anime characters across many shows.I have full mirrors of animepahe and gogoanime - I wish I could use them but they have burned subs and are shitty re-encodes. I'll have to come up with a way to walk some anime ranking lists and then pull stuff down from nyaa.si. The internet is closing down, though, I doubt I'll make it in time.
>>110235387bloody bitch benchod basterd
>>110235456
>>110235543lol nice
>>110235456Sloot
>>110235516aniwaves . ru tho? Use an ad blocker but there are shows there and you can downlaod them
>>110235477alr slopbro I was joking dont be pressed about it.. hope you get H3 minimax some day to slop as much as you want
>>110235719I already have Minimax, what I don't have is a strong enough GPU to render at 1080p natively
The elephant in the room I think, is that NAI isnt even a DiT model, its a custom u-net with a 32 channel vae, that's its magic. So uhhh, what exactly is NOOB DiT gonna achieve? Without NAI's dataset, it will just be slower than Anima for no good reason, but I truly hope im wrong, at the very least should be better than MOSS.
>>110235734You need to cut back on the slop, slopbro. Yesterday you didn't notice the colors were melting in your gen, and you admitted yourself that you're running a ton of LoRAs. Those things are savage if you don't control them, they can fuse the character and the background into one big mess and leave it looking deep fried, like it does right now.Start from zero and relearn the basics now with this acumulated sloperience. Less is more, te fewer LoRAs you stack, the more each part of your gen stays distinct instead of everything melting together into redish greenish hue.
>>110235786NTA but I think the way people use loras is flawed in nature. IMO loras should be used for light stuff, maybe a character design that's not present in the training, an outfit, maybe a specific background or something. But the moment you start NEEDING loras just to push out a particular pose or artstyle, you might aswell just learn2draw.
>>110235786I don't even know what to say... Like that was a relatively old gen and you're nitpicking it so hard. I like how my stuff looks, but please do show me what you consider correct so I can take some notes for the future
>>110235763Dude, do you even internet? It's not that hard to scrape a NAI key and measure yourself so you don't get flagged. There's a fuckton of keys everywhere, don't be such a drama queen. If people still use local it's more of an ideological stance than a difficulty getting access to NovelAI.
>>110235825nigga just say you throw a bunch of shit together and be done with it, hes not nitpicking its straight up cheap porn site advertisement, but you do you slopbro we still love you
>>110235842show gens
>>110235840Huh? Wait what are we talking about here? I was just commenting on the model differences.
>>110235825Wrong. I'm not trying to flex or set myself up as the example to follow. The age of the gen is irrelevant too, It doesn't matter if your gen is from 10 years ago, from today, or if you brought it back from the future. I'm pointing at a visual skill gap that (You) didn't notice on your own,, a lora skill gap and a tag skill gap.You are a narcissistic pedophile transvestite who took my post personally. I bet you will stop posting your fried slop with your Picasso signature in the corner now just because you are afraid of being offended again. But I will ignore you, that's up to you and your fragile pedophile ego to overcome.
I see too many local chads shit on api anons to care what you use. A good prompter will win regardless at this point
>>110235993Yeah you don't put yourself as an example because your shit probably looks like something from a tranny tumblr page, yet you find yourself suitable enough to criticize my stuff (and I'm the narcissist). You're calling my work "slop" while in a AI gen thread which is hilarious and fucking retarded as expected from a pure lurker that never posts gens and is too afraid to attach himself to a piece. I guess you're the same anon that was randomly annoyed at me putting a signature to my stuff, or the anon that was annoyed that people were making .webm collages just because they wanted to feature my work in it. Suddenly the collages disappeared from the general and instead we have whatever garbage is on the OP.I'll keep posting. In fact, bring back the collages but please never feature me again if I'm the one rustling your jimmies so much.Then again if you're gonna bitch so much about the color of a fucking wall you might as well show me how it's done, right?
>>110236027>winwin what, medals? e-bux? where's my trophy??
>>110236108Honor and prestigeThe chosen have caused other anons to have mental breakdowns from skill alone. Being chosen is platform agnostic btw.
>>110236108With a 4chan gold account, you get weekly engagement rewards for (You)s.
>110236078>But I will ignore you
>>110236123i like your gens anonbut don't fly too close to the sun
>>110236131>will ignore me>replies
>>110236123I like your gens anonKeep flying free as high as you want
>>110236123nice tush
>>110236133>>110236161I'm getting mixed signals here.
>>110236195Keep up the lolikino, just don't let the lolikino keep up with you
pwease stop fighting..
>>110236205>1boy>clearly a girl
>>110236205w-what do you mean 1boy
>>110236212>>110236214>///<
>>110236123sen to chihiro no cattoboxxu?
>>110236235Cute
>>110236238https://n.uguu.se/nYvsSeUb.png
>>110236212what about a second boy?
>>110236280arigathankyuu
>it's naigod fucking damn it :(
>It's localNooooooooo my narrative :(
>>110236360>not for sale:(
>>110236360five finger discount
>>110236400this charming young lady wants to show my waifu around the sports club
Good things come in threes!
>>110236430something's... odd about these girls...
>girls >in my saas bara general >:^(
>>110232324Ayo Kishinon, that you? Didn't get to share my $0.02 on your collection yet.
>>110236430there's no limit>>110236466this is the local model onee-shota incest general tho
>>110236487
>>110236494next time I'll just gen magic mike
>>110236524Nice style bro, arrist that draws male are goat
>>110236212>>110236214>>110236235>draw a girl>call it a boyMany such cases.
All of these local gens are dysregulating my taste, im starting to feel ill
>>110235763New pasta just dropped
>>110236617Hoes complaining they can't fit it in their mouths properly, so I'd have a sippy.
Like you shouldnt even stare at local gens too much cause theyll make you feel content with less quality
>>110236688>theyll make you feel content with less qualityWhat?
Test
>>110236723It's easy to understand, you get used to localslop so you stop being critical of it
>>110236740newfag, first time using nai, how do i make her feet look translucent?
>>110236760funny that I'm fighting models every time to do completely opposite and get nice opaque sock areatry see-through clothing, transparent socks etc.easiest path would be to just do "black thighhighs" as it default to transparent variant on black color for some reason
>>110232335Dare to be whimsical
>>110236455I'd like to see NAI do something as good as this.
>>110235825Don't let the shitter bully you, it's what he does
Slopbro's gens are obviously bad, but hes like the goofy clown kid at school, he lightens the mood.
>>110236754Sounds like a skill issue.>>110236872Cunny ToT
>>110236893Sounds like you make dogshit gens and cope about it>>110236872Uoooh
>>110236824Are you saying it can't do an image like that?
>>110236760https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=see-through_footwear
How do we get all the schizos up to speed about not uploading more local gens?
>>110236902I don't think I ever posted a gen ITT. Just pointing out that bad gens on local are a skill issue. Cloudkekkies aren't inherently at an advantage unless they're skillless retards who NEED the handholding and are incapable of ever genning anything worthwhile without it.
a good genner with a good model will make better images than a good genner with a bad model
>>110236937Some people use both local and NAI, you just didnt reach my level of experience, etc
>>110235456Seraphina, my beloved, the one who took my chatbot virginity. (I'm still a real life virgin btw)
>>110236872you're letting the lolikino get to you brother... don't let your wings burn>>110236879weren't you supposed to be ignoring me buddy pal
>Dude my local model can do anything I want it to! If you need a saas model its a skill issue hehe. W-wait anon what are those NAI gens?! I only gen 1girls standing, maybe in missionary position but not perverted shit like this!!
>>110236360>$40 for a cheeseburgerAre things that bad in the US?
>>110237147Why are her jeans liquifying?
>>110236872>pfft bunch of normies>slurping their slop>enjoying this shitty movie>wearing pantsu
>>110237156that's how jiggly her little cheeks are
>>110237147This ones could be a the thumbnail of some ANIMA NEOSLOPMERGE ARTISTIC MIX V9.99 or something
>>110236956>>110237022I mean the ones coping here are the cloudbabies who cannot gen for shit if given more control than they have over the entire process. "Model? Denoise strength? Sampler? Steps? Aiiiiiieeee, Altman, save me!!!!11one". That's (You). It's like insisting that using Instagram filters over a darkroom (or at least Photoshop) makes you more pro. Sure, the normie option has its use cases but arguing that it's overall "better" in principle just seems daft.
>>110237176It's Illustrious tho
>>110237179>Denoise strength? Sampler? Steps? All of those things can be manipulated in nai bwo, you just look clueless
>>110236400Kenma isn't that zesty
This nigga really thinks NAI is like "easy mode" instead of "the exact same tools applied to a non-dogshit model"
>>110236903I haven't seen any evidence it can.
>>110237200NAI is essentially magic to the localsissy. Xe cant even imagine how much better the results of a dedicated group of anime enthusiasts are compared to xir's jeet grifters like blueballs
>>110237200>the exact same toolsWhy are you lying? Comfy has many tools that NAI lacks.
>>110236872 (Dead)And Icarus laughed as he fell, for he knew to fall means to once have soared
>>110237191>All of those things can be manipulated in naiWouldn't know, never touched it. Glad you enjoy your FOTM though, genuinely. I just find the superiority complex odd. It's like Apple fan boys looking down on Linux power users. Like, okay, princess, enjoy your walled garden.
>>110237196so is shrimp pasta until you squeeze a lemon or twoaspect ratio wasn't wide enough for the whole group>>110237233you jinxed it
>>110236964Cute anon, do you still store your first plap?
>>110237147cute!
>words words words>gets proven wrong>words words words>nogen opinionswe collectively accept your concession
>>110237355Thank you!
>>110237179Using Photoshop does make you more pro fight me
>>110237357Kishinon?
>>110237233That's not in the book btw
>>110237367Yo
Really lazy to check other generals but is this the only general afflicted by this local vs nai shitposting?
>>110237364Uh, yeah, that's the point.
>>110237382a lot of the shitposting that happens here is very similar to the shitposting that happens in the /h/ diffusion generals
>>110237380See >>110236473. Randomly got linked to this thread today and whose pic do I see as OP? Small world. Anyhow, I went through your collection (thanks again for sharing). There were some nice gems I hadn't seen before in it but alas, most were ones I had already saved :(I still weep for the ones you deleted.
>>110237382Also hdg, outside of those two the others live in peace and harmony in goon
>>110237233i literally warned himi don't feel bad
>>110237382Currently no, I think this troll decided to only shit up this place for some reason.
>>110237382LMAO, this nigga is pro-skub.
>>110236760>>110236808thanks 'nons see-thought footwear did the job
>>110237382NAI only targets generals that are dedicated to anime. They don't care about the user base of the others. There's no point in shilling to someone that wants realistic images for example.
>>110237434>NAI only targets generals that are dedicated to animeSo the vast majority of them?
>>110237417Killing yourself does the job as well
>An unironic, free-(You)s Naischizo
>>110237225Now that this logic is turned back on me I realize how retarded it is.
>>110237485
>>110237147GtaV style?
>>110237373it is a badass quote though>>110237568wide angle view, coastal city promenade, venice beach inspired, oceanfront boardwalk, sun-drenched coastal aesthetic, palm trees silhouette, retro art deco storefronts, vibrant outdoor skatepark, graffiti wall art, pastel sunset sky, teal and orange rim light, lens flare, detailed background, depth of field, clear focus, illustrious, anime style, highly detailed illustration
>>110237382NAI schizo + one of the resident /g/ schizosPersonally I smell /h/ and /ldg/ energy.
>>110237579Well, those tags are very GTAish
>>110237147sad part about this one is no matter how much I try I cannot reach this level of mesugaki vibe again :(
>>110237626If anything I was thinking more Vice City but I guess GTAV is based on Venice Beach
>>110235456Is she your self insert? Is this what you look like in your soul?
>>110237675Are you bothered by such thoughts? Just come out of the closet, it's 2026.
>>110237354I deleted my early chats, now I regret it, it would be cool to see how much I have improved.
>>110237680Black Male Lives?
>ComfyUI_(...)>hide post
>>110237693You seem mentally cucked if that's where your mind goes.
>>110237756i hope you understand faggots post here
>>110237709I know, he defeats our narrative about NAI's superiority so it hurts to look at his gens.
>>110237693Brown Mesugaki Loli, but hey, you do your thing, fella.
>>110237781This gen sucks, why does it suck? Because it looks like the character got copy pasted into that background, the camera is way too close, the pose is way too stiff and I smell the delicious local sloppy toppy
>>110237764You are The Naked King currently
I thought Nai was just the alternative to local if you were running a 2016 build that'd burn the house down if it tried to gen, maybe that was just me tho
>>110238015It kinda was, I mean some anons ITT swear by v4.5 ,but for me personally that one was entirely meh. With v5, any artist I personally love is genned better than any lora I ever seen, to name (1) thing.
>>110238015NAI models are generally better than what local has available when they come out, but 99% of people subbing to it seem to be unable to gen anything but ugly pictures with basic ass composition anyway. So, despite the model being genuinelly capable of much more, it's normal to think that it's actually just the same as local models.
>>110237917>This gen sucks, why does it suck?Because it's local and we can never, ever be caught admitting local is good
>>110238114>admitting that local is goodOxymoron
>>110238158beep bop/10
>>110238252local so good the troll is at a loss for words
>>110238395...yeah
>>110238158There's no way that was made with Comfy.
>>110238462NAIfags are so skill issued they can't even figure out how to use comfy? Holy lel
>>110238015And the Lord said " let there be anime girls", and the NAI users generated them, and it was good.
>>110238504>>110238462Catjack samefagging, keep bumping from time to time tho
locals curated datasets for loras they would never use, wrote custom nodes to fix the sins of others, and still did not generate. wandered the desert for forty days and forty nights in search of the perfect sampler and found nothingand lo, the locals did all of these things and they were not saved. Blessed are the subscribers, for they shall enjoy the fruits of the Lord.
amen
>>110237764cui is not the best example for that
>>110238513You retarded, son?
>>110238558Ummm... I think local is better. And its your opinion against my badges, pal.
>>110235198Cool captioner. anon, how many images have you generated with the LoRA compared to the hours you spent tagging for it? Be honest.
local looks so good when ya aint got a sub in ya ear tellin ya its shit
Moss knows characters, but most of it is gachaslop, so you end up doing the same things you'd do with krea with a little bit of less effort.style lora + character lora, but moss already knows porn, and that's all that matters. The anime finetune though might change everything.
>>110238615Those badges show how much other people use your loras. I asked how much you use it. Downloads are other anons having fun, not you.
>>110238648Average civitai schizo (i never taked to you)
Locals can’t have fun with their own models, and that’s a fact. That’s why /ldg/ is one of the more sociable and fast generals there,nobody is using their own models.
These schizos really see two similar opinions and suddenly its Le Boogeyman®
>tfw my wife doesnt mind my six fingers
>>110238706kek, I counted her fingers but not his
>>110238722Spend an hour inpainting and proclaim local king
>>110238783>an hourTwas four clicks thoughbeit?
>>110238811Im not sure exactly whats going on with the other arm, is that an elbow or a tricep? Maybe you can inpaint that too
>>110238833I'll assume it's the baked-in contrapposto/hand on own hip comboIt LOVES contrapposto
>>110238860Same vibes
>>110238933>literally every astartes
>>110236740>>110237417>4 toesIs this.... the power of NAI?! Not bad, not bad at all.....
>>110239074Uhhh... no?
Catjack so mad he got btfo in other thread he cant count fingers
i appreciate when minimax just gives me random bullshit every now and then
>>110239074There are 5 in the 2nd pic
>>110239165And saying that he can accurately see the number of toes in the normal sock is a stretch
>>110232324i love my beautiful and fertile wife Yunyun!
>>110238637>The anime finetune though might change everything.Ask yourself this first:->Why does style quality seem to come from relationships between styles rather than from isolated clusters? ->If a base model never learned that way of associating in the first place, what would more training even be training on?->Can better data fix a gap in understanding? ->Can you finetune your way into understanding something the model doesn't know is there?
>>110239354sure but do you have an actual refutation
>>110239302Woa
>>110239354that's how pony was made and it was the meta for a while
>>110238955No.
Slow thread. Guess the NAI vs local schizo went to bed. Not trying to be mean, but you could set your watch by him.
trying out pixai to see how it does one of my Pokemon trainer OCs, I expected this to turn out much worse.
>>110240344Cute, mild Sabrina vibes (and that's a good thing)
>>110240357I was mostly able to get so accurate because I made her in Koikatsu first, then asked a tagger to turn the image into a prompt.