STOP USING DECADE+ OLD THINKPADS IN 2026!If you are STILL using a Thinkpad T420/T430/X220/X230 or anything from that era, than WTF are you doing?The ABSOLUTE OLDEST Thinkpad that is acceptable in 2026 is a Thinkpad T14 gen2 or anything with at least an 11th gen Intel CPU.If you are still using a T420... just let it fucking go already. It's a useless hunk of plastic now.
>>110234728>If you are still using a T420i'm using an x200
>>110234742>can't do hardware h264 decodeenjoy your ewaste then
my t400 still works. what are you going to do about it?
>>110234751can you play back 1080p jewtube without the fan maxing out?
>>110234728>WTF are you doing?Just hanging around
>>110234749gma 4500mhd can decode h264
>>110234755yep. it's a really quiet machine
>>110234798can you do it without using a frontend?
>>110234802it'd be slower, but why would i do that? i don't use the stock youtube website on my main desktop, either
>>110234809to prove that you can play jewtube without frontends or extensions
>>110234819is that some kind of benchmark?here's a clip i recorded a couple years ago, but youtube hasn't gotten any fatter since then (i hope), this one is using just plain youtube.com
still using my w520this thing could unironically run four independent 1080p displays so why the FUCK do i stop using it
>>110234825>720p
STOP BEING SATISFIED WITH WHAT YOU HAVEYOUR W541 HAS A 3K IPS SCREEN BUT IT SAYS 2014 SO THROW IT AWAY
>>110234828it's a 1280x800 screen. also that's VP9 and 60fps video. it can do 1080p with other videos, even AV1 (only the above clip i made using the youtube website itself).if you really really want me to check something now i can get out
>>110234834>ipsobsoleted by oled
>person furious that someone else has a project which has retained its valueI bought this Thinkpad t440p in 2022. It has been the best computer I've ever owned and I've owned much more powerful computers. Through thick and thin, the hardest times of my life, it has been with me. It really is my best friend. BTW if you even have to ask about the 1080p youtube performance you are a newfag
>>110234835fine i take back what i said about jewtube support but everyelse i said still stands
>>110234842enjoy you heavy af machine then
>>110234850I use it with an external display and external mouse + keyboardI bought it specifically because I wanted to have a machine with libreboot over the long term and I'm very glad I did get it
>>110234728Why? I have a T440p and it still works great.
>>110234844>everything elsewhat else did you say?- stop using it- what are you doing?- you need an 11th gen intel cpu (unspecified reason)- let it go- it contains plastic
>>110234853>libreboot>not canoeboot
>>110234858you can literally get a 11th gen intel thinkpad for 200 dollars that is better in every way.
>>110234860I've reversed the microcode (not completely, obviously) in k3it's fine, it's literally just fixes for the haswelll architecture. there is no backdoor in the intel microcode and the intel microcode literally just makes the platform more secure. the management engine, yeah it is stupid, and I'm glad it's destroyed on my bios chip lmaoI did use to use canoeboot, actually. I've gone between the 2 and at one point even had skulls on this laptop. I learned a lot about coreboot with it. Still have more to learn with it probably, but I just don't see anything else bios wise it needs beyond the EC. I would have to get a JTAG and actually probably solder it to the EC to work on such a thing but AI could probably liberate it.
>>110234873i can keep using this one for $0
>>110234873Have you considered that not everyone feels the urgency for shiny new shit that you do? Have you considered that this is a really hard time for basically everyone right now economically and maybe spending $200 on a thinkpad would be unwise? The entire premise of the OP is tone deaf.
>>110234876>0$not including the cost to upgrade the laptop in the first place, while the 11th gen thinkpad will work ootb
>>110234873>that is better in every way.No sturdy metal frame. We have gone from a sturdy tank that falls down a flight of stairs and comes out with only some scrapes on the outside, to just another flimsy creakbook.
>>110234881just saying that if you're getting a thinkpad there's no reason to go for a decade+ model in $currentyear
>>110234889new thinkpads have magnesium for the bottom cover so that's a non issue
>>110234891There are actually lots of reasons;-The parts are cheaper-They're easier to work on-They're quality computers-The parts are plentiful, there is no shortage, entire pallets of these things exist all over America, lenovo built them for the entire country-They are supported by coreboot and libreboot which matter for privacy, especially to journalists and especially right nowSo many other reasons. Lots of valid reasons to buy an old thinkpad someone else had than to rush and prove your loyalty to the 11th generation of thinkpads specifically for some unknown reason
I use a T480 daily and it's fine. I used an X220 for years until the battery connection became faulty and turned off half the time I picked it up. The bigger problem is honestly that they're old and things like the hinges and plastics break rather than performance. On my X220 the hinges were loose, one of the battery latches was busted, etc. I do actually want a T420/T430 since I kind of want a laptop with a DVD drive so I could buy DVDs. Also I like the way the old ones look.
>>110234898Part of what made the old ones so sturdy was that it's the frame inside it, not just the shell.
>>110234771kinda not really. good luck getting HD H.264 acceleration working on that particular chipset on linux specifically (it was never that well supported). it's not necessary however, the cpu is more than powerful enough on its' own
>>110234900>The parts are cheaperyou're looking at spendinf 100$ minimal to make old thinkpads usable >They're easier to work onnope on newer think all you have to do is take off the back cover and you upgrade/repair what ever you want, while on old thinkpads you need to do a full system disassembly just to access the cpu>They're quality computersand so are new ones>The parts are plentiful, there is no shortage, entire pallets of these things exist all over America, lenovo built them for the entire countrysee my first point>They are supported by coreboot and libreboot which matter for privacy, especially to journalists and especially right nowok i'll give you that one but t480 also supports libreboot and is modern by comparison
>>110234771>>110234910(and yes, i have tried. researching it you'll find it can do it with the windows driver, but that nobody really finished it for linux. this chipset predates decent intel video support in linux)
>>110234728everything from that era is hackproof, got it
libreboot and also it works for me so i don't care
>>110234951only if you flash canoeboot in them
>>110234925And yet you still found it necessary to demonstrate your loyalty to the 11th generation of thinkpads, specifically. You are an interesting character. I think you are someone who I would date. Are you single by chance?
>>110234964sorry but I'm not a fag, so no
>>110234969I'm literally nixiepixel. You could've fucked me but now you missed out. Assume less
>>110234745It's not about what you like, it's about not computing like a faggot retard.
>>110234874>I've reversed the microcode (not completely, obviously) in k3Link?
>>110234997Nah I don't give my work out for free anymore
You can hop on IRC #libreboot on Libera, wait until Leah Rowe comes online and you can ask her exactly what the microcode does
>>110235011>her
>>110234903What DVDs would you buy? I have one and havent used the dvd drive for anything
>>110234974>I'm literally nixiepixel.Who?
>>110234728>Just stop doing things that give you enjoyment!No, jewcunt jeet, I will do whatever the fuck I want.
>>110235013Yes, her. That woman has contributed more to the free software community than 99% of this board. I will always respect her.
>>110235021>woman
>>110235024Go greentext her instead of me
>>110235031sorry but i don't talk to menially ill men
>>110235034Do you have an internal monologue?
>>110235015Realistically it's more of a thought than something I'd actually do. But if I did I would buy Japanese media I can't find shared online. I could just buy a USB DVD drive for my desktop if I really wanted to.
>>110235039you don't?
I think people who use old tech are very cool
>>110235048I do. I'm going with: You are implying that you do have an internal monologue.In that case, in all of your internal self-talk, you are yourself speaking to a mentally ill man (yourself) and you do it on a literal daily basis
>>110234728fuck you sam altman, you're not getting my ddr3 ram sticks.
>>110235056i'm not the one who has his balls chopped off
>>110235066I'm not the boogeyman you have in your head but I do know everything about you and your entire family.
>>110235074ok then what's my mother's name
>>110235042It feels really snappy and nice. I was thinking of just buying a bunch of bulk dvd and burning my pirated shit onto them for storgage
>>110235066>>110235074okay now kiss
>>110235094I'm not really up for reenacting childhood on the 4chan technology boardYou know, if we were on fetlife or /trash/ or /d/ I might just take you up on that, but not on /g/.
>STOP USING OLD THINGS
>>110235137>not wanting a machine that cooks your thighs is bad
>>110235078my bitch
>>110235093Yeah that's a fun idea, I'd probably burn my own versions of movies and TV shows too just for fun. It's less practical and economical compared to hard drives though.
>>110234728I refuse to get a CPU with 2 digit generation number. For fucks sake, invent a new product line already.
>>110234728What about a T470p?
>>110234728Or else what? You get the ick and wont offer me your aging bussy? I dont have an old thinkpad but my cisgender female wife does.
>>110235156anons in an old thread couldn't believe how cool my thiccpad ran being maxed out playing av1 video
>>110234910>>110234929i haven't updated this machine in ages. my kernel is still on 5.2 from 2020, decoding 720p h264 with vaapi works fine here
It just works.
>>110235460>it just burnsfify
I'm daily driving a x230t and I couldn't be happier with it. I just wish it could run more games without cooking itself, but eh.
>>110234728>It's a useless hunk of plastic now.still works on my machine
>>110234728Why does discussing old comfy laptops generate such monumental hatred within the heart of certain users of the 4channel board /g/ - technology?
>>110235639ya if all you do is post on 4chan
>>110234728feel free to send me a free laptop desu
My T14s Gen1 is still absolutely fine, aside from the sof-firmware fsckery
>>110235653what discussion lol? Shit's been talked to death for a decade, it's just schizo regurgitation
>>110234809What front end do you use?
>>110236032https://github.com/user234683/youtube-local(generally open the videos in mpv)
>>110236053cheers
>>110234728there's a what i called it a chinese-project. they install new processor on very old thinkpad. i'm just hoping they could do it on x220/230 i definitely will buy it. kek
>>110234760>unironically using german localizationWhy would one ever do this? It makes no sense
>>110234728shut up and polish my shoes
>>110234728>STOP USING DECADE+ OLD THINKPADS IN 2026!If your happy with what you have and enjoy your own computers speeds what's stopping someone from running the same PC offline for decades? A decade is usually the limit for most business models these days, but older machines are far more repairable than new ones. If you can save a laptop from the landfill, play retro videa, make FM chiptune and write documents then I say have fun. >>110234755>can you play back 1080p jewtube What's stopping you from just not using the internet on an older model? I've seen devices from the 1990's run with rapid loading times offline. Some people have a hobby machine and a daily driver. If your dead set on using the internet, you easily keep up on a second machine and use the offline one as an air gapped work or DOS gaming machine.
>>110234728>The ABSOLUTE OLDEST Thinkpad that is acceptable in 2026 is a Thinkpad T14 gen2 or anything with at least an 11th gen Intel CPU.my T480 and A485 just werk and can even play games
>>110234728>The ABSOLUTE OLDEST Thinkpad that is acceptable in 2026 is a Thinkpad T14 gen2Troll thread
>>110236415>File: Screenshot_20261014-08101(...).png (2.35 MB, 1080x1436)
Afk installing Fedora 45, that was just released today, on my x220 now and will use it for at least one month as my daily driver.Fuck uoy, OP
It's simpleUse whatever the fuck you want, just don't cry about newer software. If you're happy don't pretend otherwise by moaning
>>110234981Hardware performance and internet speeds have grown tenfold yet the latency and the lagginess of the modern web has gotten tenfold worse.
>>110236337I'm german, that's why.
>>110236899Me too. Yet I have every single digital device set to english, because german translations are just horrendous
>>110234728you sound like a mad 10-year-old little pissbaby pissboy. grow up.
>>110236500>can't do hardware av1 decodesure thing bud
>>110237344nobody unironically uses AV1
>>110237353jewtube does
>>110234728>with at least an 11th gen Intel CPUthis post was made by a shill, 4th gen intel is fast enough, sandy bridge is good, amd fx still works well enough to be usable
>>110237372https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/h264ify/just use this nigga
>>110237381>just cope with thisno
>>110235011they're using they/them pronouns for 5 years now assholehttps://vimuser.org/nonbinary.html
>>110237378>4th gen intel is fast enoughquad-core machines are filling up landfills>sandy bridge is goodhas no pci-e gen 4 let alone gen 3>amd fx still works well enough to be usablefaildoser was garbage at launch, it also almost bankrupted amd
>>110237998We flux on this shit so much too we really don't care just don't call me he and we're good
>>110234728Fuck you . Sent from my T60.
>>110234728>acceptableAccording to who, an anonymous 4chan poster? LMAOt. posted from my x230
>>110238101how's the temps, you put your laptop on a cooling pad?
>>110238154No, it works fine even on a bed. 36C idle rn. 55C if watching YT (RIP hw decoding). If I really stress it, temps can go to 100C, but the CPU is rated for more than that iirc.
>>110238094why not Debian 13?
>>110238181does the bottom of your laptop feel hot when using it?
>>110238200A bit warm during normal use, why
