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>>110240653
>First for Alpine Linux

Reject GNU and embrace the glorious Musl libc

>>110240708
2 GB of RAM usage? What’s the minimum amount of RAM, KDE can use on a Linux distro?

Fedora KDE: Is there a way to summon a temporary terminal that kills itself when it's no longer focused? I just went on an adventure with the bot and it spit out some bash script that will probably kill the wrong process someday.

Usecase: temporary ncmpcpp instance I summon with a hotkey

>>110240708
An independent systemd-free distro sounds nice, but from what I can see there is no benefit to this OS unless your hardware is extremely underpowered. And even then your browser will use all your compute anyway. Lots of manual setup compared to Fedora.
>>110240946
There used to be a terminal (Konsole?) on KDE that opened with tilde (~) and maybe some modifier key.

>>110240744
ai slop

>>110240725
It uses about a gig with nothing but Konsole open so if you really had to push it then it can use less RAM.
https://pastebin.com/raw/kBsT7JTX

I don't know why I have some GNOME services here though. I think some of these can go.

>>110241044
>from what I can see there is no benefit to this OS unless your hardware is extremely underpowered
Pretty much. I ran Gentoo before but I don't actually use this laptop enough for Gentoo to be worthwhile. I was using my desktop as a binhost but still not really worth it.
With Alpine at least I can quickly update the packages with apk the few times I use it.

>>110241182
>I don't know why I have some GNOME services here though. I think some of these can go.
Or not. If I purge them it'll remove plasma-desktop-meta and I can't be fucked with manual dependencies.

I really don't know why the meta package pulled in evolution-data-server (used for calendars on GNOME) and GNOME keyring.

>>110241182
I didn't know pastebin was still a thing

>>110241232
It's full of spam from AI agents dumping their logs these days but still very much a thing.

>>110240653
>gay
no

>>110241044
>There used to be a terminal (Konsole?) on KDE that opened with tilde (~) and maybe some modifier key.
You're thinking of Yakuake. It has been a bit neglected since KDE switched fully to Wayland but still works even if it's a little glitchy/buggy sometimes.

>>110240946

>>110241333
Yeah that's the one. But don't newer Konsole versions have that built in now?

>>110240653
>picrel
>But I did it only one time with you!

Shouldn't that picture be of 2 guys?

How do I install the Hyprland operating system

>>110241566
It's just a window manager and you can check your package manager for it and likely swap from your desktop environment to the window manager from your login screen.

Noticed my swap folder is at max cap while I still got half of my physical ram still left (I like to leave 20 tabs of firefox open at all times)
Should more of the load go onto the remainder of the physical ram rather than capping out the swap space first?

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is openwrt hard to install and configure? i figure i just flash my existing router software, should be easy. but looking at configuring it it seems like linux from scratch.
i am just a apu with linux mint, will this be too hard for me? i just want a sensible updatable router

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>>110242101
most of the stuff you would configure on it can be done via it's gui.

>>110242105
oh nice, i thought it was just CLI.

>>110242101
Add Luci (it may not be in the default install but you can add it if it's not) and you can config it all from clicky buttons in web gooey

>>110242101
>but looking at configuring it it seems like linux from scratch.
I don't get it. The thing has a web console, right? As in you go to something like http://192.168.1.1 and click thru the settings in that site.
>>110242108
How did you figure that?
>>110240725
>>110241182
The big question is are your apps made for the desktop. If they are it's all irrelevant as the same libraries get used for those too.

>>110240653
Okay but i will use selinux

Is mirrors.kernel.org down over IPv6 for anyone else?

# ping -4 -c3 mirrors.kernel.org
PING mirrors.kernel.org (142.0.200.124) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from dfw.mirrors.kernel.org (142.0.200.124): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=120 ms                      
64 bytes from dfw.mirrors.kernel.org (142.0.200.124): icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=120 ms                      
64 bytes from dfw.mirrors.kernel.org (142.0.200.124): icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=120 ms

--- mirrors.kernel.org ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 120.056/120.152/120.277/0.092 ms
ping -6 -c3 mirrors.kernel.org
PING mirrors.kernel.org (2605:f480:58:1:0:1994:3:14) 56 data bytes                                       
                                                                                                         
--- mirrors.kernel.org ping statistics ---                                                               
3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2026ms    

This is breaking pacman:

# pacman -Syyyu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 cachyos-v3                                                                                        151.5 KiB   263 KiB/s 00:01 [] 100%
 cachyos-core-v3                                                                                   112.8 KiB   103 KiB/s 00:01 [] 100%
 cachyos-extra-v3                                                                                   4.4 MiB  3.55 MiB/s 00:01 [] 100%
 cachyos  510.9 KiB  1148 KiB/s 00:00 [] 100%
 core.db failed to download
 extra.db failed to download
error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from mirrors.kernel.org : Connection timed out after 10000 milliseconds
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from mirrors.kernel.org : Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds
error: failed to synchronize all databases (failed to retrieve some files)

It's a bit shit that pacman can't handle that properly.

>>110243230
Ah, for some reason my mirrorlist only has the kernel.org one, that explains it. There's a .pacnew one that has loads more entries. Not sure how that happened.

>>110243283
>for some reason
you mean the incompetence of the CachyOS team?

>>110243317
I don't think that's them. It's just the default that ships with pacman I imagine and there was a new / updated one I just hadn't merged the .pacnew file. You need to do that manually, Arch will never update config files for you.

>>110243328
Also there wasn't necessarily anything wrong with it either. It's a working mirror when it works. It's a bit funny that I didn't notice until now.

>>110243328
Just use reflector

>>110243352
I hear the tool rate-mirrors is actually better then reflector

>>110243328
>>110243338
>it's just the default
which CachyOS shouldn't rely on and spin up their own or use existing ones
>it's a working mirror when it works
the point of a mirrorlist is to be a list, not a single point of failure

>>110243373
They did update it. It's my fault for not merging the updated .pacnew file.

>>110243381
do they at the very least have more than one entry for core and extra now? otherwise you'll find yourself in the same situation again eventually

>>110243390
Yes. They're all commented out which seems deliberate too to get you to edit the file or use a tool to do it. I just enabled all the worldwide ones.

>>110243230
kernel.org has CachyOS mirrored? wtf
>>110243373
>the point of a mirrorlist is to be a list, not a single point of failure
Huh? People pick more or less arbitrary mirrors regardless their distribution.

>>110243414
It's the Archlinux mirror which I have enabled too (I think CachyOS repos take priority but if there were a newer package version in the Arch repos then pacman will happily use it)

>>110243414
Huh? Picking one mirror was never the acceptable nor advisable thing to do.

>>110243439
You are correct but selecting only one mirror falls into "picking arbitrary mirrors" category.
>>110243426
It's also surprising they mirror Arch.

>>110243457
Kernel.org is a massive mirror. They mirror all sorts of projects. Sometimes it's a bit wobbly like this though. I guess they have to handle a lot these days.

>>110243457
>You are correct but selecting only one mirror falls into "picking arbitrary mirrors" category.
Do you even have a point or did you just make up something I didn't say to respond to with your post?

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>>110243481
That's /fglt/ in a nutshell.
>>110243467
idk about all sorts but a handful, at least from what I can see from https://mirrors.kernel.org

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I am worried wayland (gnome-occupied organization or goo for short) will kill window managers that just werk without getting in your way and I hope xorg wont go away soon

What's the best Linux equivalent of the shift+windows+s snipping too? Something running in the background that I can invoke at any time.

>>110243547
xbindkeys to scrot -s
you might need scrot -s -d1 because the rectangle sometimes does not disappear before the screenshot is taken so you get a goofy negative-white border around the screenshot

>>110243547

slop | sed -E 's/([[:digit:]]{,4})x([[:digit:]]{,4})\+([[:digit:]]{,4})\+([[:digit:]]{,4})/\3,\4 \1x\2/' - | grim -g -

bind it to whatever key combo you want

>>110243581
>command
this looks like it produces mustard gas

>>110243545
Take the Mintypill. Despite fully implementing Wayland in 26, they will leave X11 option as it is.

>>110243545
lmao based wayland

>>110243584
It does for the average /fglt/ poster.

>>110243545
Don't worry. Even Red hat 9 is going to support xorg until 2032. The BSDs will probably support it even longer.

>>110243585
I am on gentoo so I think I am good for a while but still
it would benefit a lot of people if gnome devs all had bicycle accidents

>>110243596
X11 isn't going anywhere, even if Xorg stops development there is a Wayback:
https://wayback.freedesktop.org/

>>110243547
Spectacle can be configured to select a region and immediately copy it to the clipboard.

>>110243581
Does that actually work? Isn't slop X11 only and grim Wayland only?

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>On Debian, Ubuntu, and derivative Linux distributions, an on-path attacker who can manipulate the HTTP traffic (including a malicious mirror or proxy) between an APT client and an archive server triggered by a package install can trick the client into installing an attacker-controlled unverified package and achieve remote code execution with root privileges.

https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2026-109518

Apt high vulnerability in Debian 12 onwards and Debian-based distributions. Time to change your sources URIs to HTTPS. I'm done being told HTTP is fine because APT verifies them anyway.

>>110244830
debian sisters...

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>>110244830
Sysadmins have long relied on one assumption. Even if a Debian or Ubuntu mirror is served over plain HTTP, or reached across a hostile network, APT’s signature chain stops package tampering. The distribution’s offline OpenPGP keys sign the repository's InRelease metadata (or Release plus Release.gpg). That metadata binds the SHA-256 digests of the Packages indices, and those bind the SHA-256 checksum and byte length of every .deb archive. A man-in-the-middle (MitM) attacker or a malicious mirror should not be able to change a single byte of a package without APT aborting the transaction.

The cryptography is untouched here. The flaw sits in the stateful filesystem layer where APT’s worker processes manage files between the moment a checksum is computed and the moment dpkg unpacks the archive as root. By combining HTTP redirects, download retries (Acquire::Retries), HTTP Range resumption, and hard-link reuse inside /var/cache/apt/archives/, an on-path attacker can make two download items share one inode and overwrite a verified .deb with malicious bytes after verification has already succeeded.

>>110244845
We good sis. Updates gone out today:

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2026-109518

I wonder if https can really protect you there with the apt cve. Does it redirect? Wouldn't that cause a certificate issue? What if the mirror is pozzed?

>>110244981
Yes. Yes. Then you're fucked if you also haven't patched apt.

>>110244981
the https would protect you from mitm'ing the mirrors, but not from malicious or hacked mirrors.

>>110244981
As I understand is the issue is that trust is placed too early in the chain. https doesn't protect you from that.

>>110244830
Who uses malicious proxies for apt packages? Maybe someone in China. Everyone will probably use official mirrors.

>>110245121
Even if the mirrors were serving the wrong files, apt will notice it doesn't match the checksums in the release file (signed by the maintainer's key stored on the system). It's absolutely fine to use mirrors. You can only override the checks with Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories.

>>110245164
Most people will be but you should use third party mirrors on downstream distributions like Ubuntu and Linux Mint for load balancing and improved speeds. There is no security risk. Debian users should use deb.debian.org rather than a third party mirror because that's a cdn and works best.

>>110240653
>ubuntu
>top bar thing
is there a way to customize this? I remember in the past I had a build that basically deleted/integrated it into what ever was in focus (basically a window bar with the system shit like the time on the right). Is that still possible? Or, is there a place where I can find little widget things for it? Like a qbittorrent status bar or something?

>>110245436
Install Xubuntu instead.

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Buttons are too small. I want to make them bigger.

>>110245611
>claude take the wheel

>>110245436
you probably want to check out gnome shell-extensions and gnome-tweaks

>>110245611
That's a big reason why I still use ubuntu.
-all settings -displays -scale for menu and title bars
I keep mine at 75%
>>110245632
Thanks anon, will do. Thought the unity tweak tool had some options for it, but I can't seem to find it.

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>>110245611
buttons are too big. i want to make them smaller.

>always used windows
>decide to try cachy becasue I'm tired of all my shit being tied to onedrive with my name
>none of my peripherals are working the way I want

I may end up going back to windows.

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>>110245718
>mouse works
>keyboard works
>monitor works
>controller works

>>110245726
I use a razer naga and tartarus. I got the tartarus working but not the naga. I use custom profile in all the games I play (Rimworld and Transport Fever 3). I plugged in my swiftpoint mouse and that works fine but I don't think I like the mouse

>>110244830

sudo echo "Acquire::http::AllowRedirect "false";" >> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/apt.conf

>>110245743
>razor shit
you deserve it

>>110245743
>buy hardware that works only on windows
>switch to Linux
>wtf Linux kernel devs didn't work for free reverse engineering proprietary toys to support my hardware specifically
write your own driver/bitch at Razer/go back to Windows

>>110245748
deb.debian.org requires redirects so not sure how well that would work on some distros.

>>110245800
but everyone always says "linux can do everything windows can".

>>110245809
ok nvm it still works

>>110245832
It can. But someone has to do the work. Ideally, it would have been Razer.
Ultimately, it will be the end-user.

>>110245832
works for me. i buy good hardware from non shit companies.

>>110245832
everyone also says you need double digits iq to use linux

>>110245748
>sudo echo >>
You used AI for this you freak. It's so fucking retarded I swear to god.

>>110246153
AI would know the redirect part doesn't work with sudo.

>>110245718
I'm back on windows. I can definitely see the appeal of cachy and probably other distros but for my specific case I need my key binds to work across the few games I play. Thanks for asking

>>110243545
This could be solved by someone implementing a common wayland server with pluggable window management, but don't mind me.

>>110244830
apt is such a joke holy shit

>>110246480
It actually doesn't, which is why I said that. I had Gemini try to tell me to sudo echo > a /sys file the other day.

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Asked this before but need some guidance, I fixed it for now but I might have to completely reinstall my OS
There is this error I have on Fedora 44, kernel 7.2.12, where my 9070xt crashes, hard, where it actually starts to work after x% load, example
>detroit become human
>holocure
>old game
nothing
>use comfy AI image gen, instant crash
>new onimusha demo, crash durng a cutscene or too much action

error was as if I pulled the GPU manually from the pcle slot, cant remember how ti showed on the log and I forgot to take a pic
my solution was to boot on kernel 10 from a previous update mashing shoft key at start and ride it out some months

Now, with Nikke bs situation, my peace of mind would be just to fresh install, dont have much anyway, can back up my files easily on my external, and can have the new nstall running in under a hour, but dont want to get stuck with no gaems because of these errors, so I guess my question is if anyone knows if they have fixed these errors in these past 2 weeks or if thereś a way to update only up to that specific kernel 7.2.10, once i fresh install from my live usb i havent touched since fedora 44 release

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Sup /g/, VIBEGOD coming through.

Claude is my good little slave.

Wrong thread.

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Linux is FINALLY going to get a desktop OS thats not garbage. It just werks.

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It's on its way. In development

This looks like garbage.

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Proper 4K scaling, multimonitor, blazing fast rust based desktop built on wayland. No bloat, pure apps built in rust with no legacy or toolkit bloat. Everything is fast and instant with no lag or stutter. Full easy to use beginner friendly OS that can run on any PC. Desktop under 30mb. Fully featured.

Finally KDE and its bloat will be done in by a real desktop thats fast and bloat free and the zorin/KDE devs can finally get their funding cut for being lazy luddites and not making a viable alternative to windows.

What is the best and most capable live usb version of linux? for web and video preferably

I often travel for work so bring along a usb to use my work laptop out of hours, but the distro i normally use is live rolling so goes out of date and trying to install vlc or mpv doesn't work as ffmpeg is out of date, and doing a full system update on usb seems to kill it anyway

I don't want/need it to be persistent

>>110247329
ubuntu, has vlc and firefox built in, very quick and easy to customize the look prior to a presentation if needed.

>>110247337
oh shit of course, somehow i feel i should've already known that
>thanks anon

>>110247314
>No bloat, pure apps built in rust with no legacy or toolkit bloat.
even the post is vibed, it looks like a bootleg windows 10

>>110247182
>>110247239
>>110247260
>>110247314
Dios mio...

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All will be resolved, all will be fixed. Nothing is out of reach.

>>110247351
no problem, I did the exact same thing when I was traveling for work all the time. it's now my 'test' drive basically.
I'd recommend getting whatever the latest release is though instead of LTS, just because of all the bullshit recently

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>>110247182
>>110247239
>>110247260
>>110247314
>light mode
>(((search))) bar when super+typing works
>gigantic fucking panel
>rounded corners
Cancer.

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>>110247371
>titlebars

>>110247381
Yes yes we know you're a contrarian and need something to complain about because your life is bad. It's played out at this point, its not appealing either. Yet builders will continue and the weak will only know destruction and defeatism.

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>>110247390
KDE for cozy. Hyperland for speed. The world doesn't need yet another half-cocked desktop environment. But waste tokens on whatever you want senpai. People are just gonna use Cinnamon or XFCE anyway.

>>110247373
all sorted, thanks mate!

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Every day, more polish. Until it is whole.

I mean more power to you, do what you want that you like that suits your needs.
I think it looks awful.

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>>110247399
But tokens arent some finite thing doe, you have infinite amount of them and unless you're doing massive contexts youll never hit the limits especially in this context since it resets like 2 hours. Snailcats have gone delusional.

So I'm still trying to figure out how to disable monitor 2 (my second monitor, left side, identified as =1) at the login screen and when I lock my system. ChatGPT isn't entirely helpful here.
I'm using Arch with KDE Plasma (Wayland). Would anyone know how to set this up? Or should I use something like Hyprland instead?

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Dark mode sleek

post up the code and md files if you're going to share, otherwise stop avatar fagging, nobody cares here. post in the various desktop threads on the site, this isn't the place for it

nah

All aisloppers share the same behavior where they start vomiting their creations without wondering if anyone is actually interested in looking at them.

>>110247566
You just want to hate AI blindly, which is your ulterior motive, not to help or contribute to new tech or software. It wouldn't matter if the desktop did have everything you wanted. By the way what have you built or contributed to?

ai luddites are equivalent to cavemen. I cant wait until society leaves them behind.

>>110247479
Looks interesting, I'm thinking of installing gnome because nothing just werks on the other wayland desktops, so Im hoping for an alternative, what's this de called

>>110247102
okay so I was not aware that fedora 45 is out now
you guys think its a good idea to fresh install it?

For gaming CachyOS is best?

Mostly want a plug and play I keep hearing for my all AMD build it is much better.

Also how is Wabbajack and modding Bethesda games these days?

Is it just as convenient than windows?

>>110247913
It's a good choice. Based on Arch and with optimised repos and kernel.

No idea if those mods will work though. It can be pain, sometimes mods are fine but other times the devs like to use really esoteric Windows stuff that doesn't necessarily always translate well to Wine/Proton.

>>110247913
If it works, it works
I personally have no issues on Fedora KDE, except lately they fucked up something with the AMD drivers and had to roll back on a update, dunno if the new Fedora 45 fixed it

>>110247756
There is a problem with an rpmfusion package but I don't know if it would affect you using a fresh install, check if people are having bugs with 45

>>110247756
no, wait for ultramarine linux so you know rpmfusion and terra work fine

>>110248025
all maintained fedora versions share the same kernel. so latest kernel would break amd drivers everywhere.

https://openai.com/index/a-thousand-fewer-paths-to-root/
>In a run in mid-October 2026, our pipeline using an upcoming cyber model dynamically reproduced 1,724 vulnerabilities and generated PoCs for 291 information leak vulnerabilities and 948 working local privilege escalation (LPE) exploits for a commonly used Linux distribution. The total run cost $1,213,430 in API credits, or $1,279 per LPE exploit.
>The Linux maintainers and security community are working hard to rapidly discover and fix vulnerabilities. Within 10 days while the scan was running, we observed over 100 Linux LPEs had been patched or had staging patches from other contributors, with ~300 more being publicly discussed.

>>110247913
On Linux you can use Jackify for the Wabbajack mod packs.

>>110248025
It didn't, for some retarded reason trying to run at resolutions above 1152p causes the driver to crash into no signal on my 4k tv.

Fucking linus and his vibeslopped kernels

>>110248102
You do know Linus doesn't develop AMDGPU, right?

He doesn't touch the DRM/GPU stack ever. I think he may have contributed some small fixes to Intel in the past (he uses an Intel Arc GPU in his desktop) but besides that it's not him fucking your GPU driver.

>>110248025
CachyOS is Arch Linux not Fedora so the AMD driver problem is not an issue there.

Linus personally fucked my GPU drivers using one of the many Linux backdoors.

>>110248111
99% of the kernel IS drivers retard

>>110248122
both arch and fedora use latest vanilla kernels

>>110248130
Exactly. Linus and vibecoding has nothing to do with it.

>>110248133
It has EVERYTHING to do with it. He's the one pushing out this broken shit with his system architect larp

>>110248122
I've been using Fedora kde for over a year now and these problems appeared in the last month, I was hoping to just stay on the kernel where I have no issues for a good while but the Nikke hack situation, might have compromised my pc,

how different is cachy OS? any problems using comfy UI?

>>110248132
yeah the problem seems to be with fedora in the end, its causing problems is what it seems a wrong volt/power signal or something

>>110248102
>no signal
do you have to manually turn off as well?
because for me its a sudden white screen, I can even hear the game for some more seconds, then it stops as it was frozen, have to turn off manually

>>110248143
Moron. He's just the guy that pushes the "Merge branch drm/amdgpu into torvalds/linux master branch" button.

You act like AMDGPU has never broken before. I remember when I first got my 5700 XT and 6700 XT and it was so unstable. There was no reset mechanism at the time and the GPU could wedge or hang resulting in needing to reboot the entire machine.
It's so much better now with my 9070 XT I have now it's not even funny.

>>110248132
>>110248122
Both dumb.
Arch Linux uses the Vanilla Kernel yes.

CachyOC does not. Or well it does but it’s custom. It’s usually a heavily patched performance tuned kernel compiled with Clang, ThinLTO, AutoFDO profiles and sched-ext/BORE scheduler improvements.
Cachy also does pre emtive cherrypicking too. Like it picks hardware patches and bug fixes before they reach mainline kernels. If an upstream kernel breaks AMD drivers Cachy can and will patch it directly or delay the patch .
The problem with fedora was the amd-gpu-firmware package and how it generated its initramfs.
Cachy uses linux-firmware-amdgpu and its own update pipeline and has already resolved that regression.

>>110248060
RPMfusion has been synced up since some time yesterday not sure about terra.

>>110248158
>He's just the guy that pushes the "Merge branch drm/amdgpu into torvalds/linux master branch" button.
Not even that even because all the GPU drivers go into a single DRM repo and that's the one he merges. He doesn't see or scrutinise individual AMDGPU driver code most of the time. He ain't got time for that.

>>110248173
most of the gpu driver is in the gpu's firmware, not in the kernel anyway

>>110240653
i just discovered noctalia
wtf where has this been all my life? this is much higher quality than the abomination i was stitching together with waybar

>>110248173
Quit making excuses for that uppity raging retard you moron he gets payed for that shit, you don't

Shit's broken

>>110248188
It's not his responsibility and whatever vibecoding he does in his own time certainly has no bearing on the quality of individual drivers.

Just stick to the LTS kernel branch if you don't want to roll the dice on whether or not the latest code is working correctly or not.

>>110248196
Fuck you retard, I had to jump through hoops to make sure the last working 7.1 kernel didn't get purged during upgrade from fedora 44 to 45

>>110248205
Maybe you should take that up with Fedora?
Other distros make it easy to install an LTS kernel (on Arch It's just

pacman - S linux-LTS

) but Fedora has always been about pushing the bleeding edge even if it's broken.

>>110248205
that's worse than sticking to a longterm kernel
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kwizart/kernel-longterm-6.18/

>>110248214
You don't get it do ya? I want latest features and optimizations for AI workloads

>>110248218
Fedora 45 is on 7.2 which is when linus the raging tard started vibeslopping

>>110248220
>I want the latest features
>I want stability
Pick one.

>>110248214
like fedora said

https://lwn.net/Articles/1071949/
>Fedora had a single kernel maintainer who is "massively overworked and isn't able to engage on Fedora kernel bugs". It did not matter what kernels Fedora had because Fedora does not have people to fix the problems that users discover: "it doesn't matter if the problem is in 7.0-rc6, 6.19-stable, or 6.18-longterm. They are still not getting fixed". The additional complexity of the packaging, installation, and bootloader infrastructure for multiple kernels did not make sense

>>110248229
I pick raping your ass

>>110248233
That's fair. Maybe they should consider delegating more responsibility to other people. It doesn't sound like a good idea for a single guy to be the one person holding up your entire distro.

>>110248233
ALL of the 7.2 vibelopped kernels have this issue on my rig, you think I haven't tested? It's a consistent issue.

>>110248247
Learn to bisect the kernel and file a bug report:
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/bug-bisect.html

You want the latest and greatest features then you should contribute back bug reports when the shit breaks.

With LLMs this is even easier than ever before, they will help you file a proper bug report.

>>110248259
>>110248247
Although, first grab the 7.4.0-rc1 kernel RPM from Rawhide and see if it's been fixed:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/kernel

>>110248259
I'm just gonna end up writing rants full of rage.

>>110248266
>*Claude make this sound nicer*

>>110248228
fedora itself has been vibeslopped long before

https://lwn.net/Articles/1039623/
>Fedora floats AI-assisted contributions policy
>October 1, 2025

>>110248265
Why would I want to larp like a kernel maintainer? I have no interest or brainpower for that

>>110248274
Because if you don't report issues then they stay dormant in the kernel until somebody else discovers them.

>>110248278
issues probably already have been reported

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/AMDGPU#Freezes_with_%22[drm]_IP_block:gmc_v8_0_is_hung!%22_kernel_error

>>110248278
It's already been reported according to chatGPT and as usual ignored

>>110248290
>rages on about vibeslop
>uses chatgpt

>>110248312
AI have AI installed on my PC dumbass, I am raging at linus being an incompetent shit

Besides GNOME and KDE which desktop environments have acceptable display scaling?

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why does linux have so many?

>linux is literally unusable now
aite im finna go back to 11 pro, suck ma dick yall

>>110248409
Glowie kernel devs.

>>110248409
local privilege escalation is not a priority. it's best-practice to run every micro service in its own vm.

>>110248409
spooks seething over AI finding all the backdoors they've planted into linux over the years. I sure hope some autist is digging into who introduced these vulnerabilities so we can maybe get a laugh out of most of them coming from the same group of people.

>>110248602
>just-asking-questions conspiracy spiel
>but knows that ai exists
>ai could dispel her conspiracy immediately

>>110248640
Ur right it must all have been accident :)

That’s it.

I’m installing CachyOS.

>>110248640
>her

>>110248698
welcome home, white man

>>110248849
Excited to do some AI generation on my 7900XTX 24GB without having to go through like 40 fucking hoops.

>>110248909
Lol, cachy isn't meant for that. You need either ubantu or fedora

>>110248909
>boughted ayymd and wants sloppa
lo l

>>110248948
Just install rocm that's literally packaged in the repos and have at it. You don't need Ubongo or Memedora

>>110248956
Rocm has no official support on arch, have fun frying your system

>>110248968
ROCm is just a custom fork of LLVM and some additional libraries.
Where is this idea that it has to specifically support specific GNU/Linux distributions and cannot possibly work anywhere else coming from?
It's not even limited to Linux, people are trying to get ROCm ported to FreeBSD.
https://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~s23adhik/myPosts/ROCmFreeBSD_pt1and2.html

>>110248975
Because I haven't found any official documentation on other distros on their page. It's either some ancient Ubantu LTS or Red Hat

>>110248986
Just follow official documentation and substitute "apt install" for your distros package manager.

>>110248988
Nuh huh, I ain't risking frying my system with hackslop

>>110248968
Yeah, half right half dramatic.
AMD doesn’t officially support Arch or CachyOS, that’s fair. Their docs are all Ubuntu/RHEL focused.

But the “have fun frying your system” bit is just pure nonsense.

The main ROCm packages are literally in the official Arch repos and get updated regularly. People run AMD GPUs on CachyOS with ComfyUI and the rest every day without their GPUs melting. Worst that usually happens is the normal Arch rolling update drama where something breaks for a few days and you pin a package or jump on an LTS kernel for a bit. Same as any other complicated GPU stack on Arch.

So no official AMD hand-holding if it goes wrong, sure.
But it’s not some fragile experimental setup that’s going to brick your card either.

If you want the safest, most hand-held experience then stick with Ubuntu. If you’re already on CachyOS and can deal with the occasional hiccup, ROCm works fine on AMDGPUs

>>110248998
It would fry either way. You still don't seem to understand that there's nothing fundamentally different about the ROCm in Arch versus the ROCm in Fedora or Ubuntu.

It is the exact same source code.

>>110249003
I'm not being dramatic, you do you bro, but don't deny that AI gen is not in constant flux and trying to mainatin a stable install on top of that is just asking to get your shit pushed in.

>>110249029
You can just use official AMD ROCm Docker containers if you really want something stable. They are pinned to specific versions of the whole stack and won't get any updates (unless you update them) so there's nothing to break.

>>110249029
Retarded nigga they’re the exact same source code you fucking plebeian.

>>110249035
Fuck off arch fag, your butthurt is showing

>>110248561
>it's best-practice to run every micro service in its own vm
yeah which is why qubes is one of the most popular distros

>>110249042
How am I butthurt when I get the exact same ComfyUI as you with the exact same performance.

>>110249049
Then why hurl insults like a preschooler? Retard

Have fun

>>110249062
Oh your a keyboard nazi too, fuck off to /pol/

So why is Fedora kde having so much AMD problems out of nowhere?

>>110249113
and by this I meant the gpu

>>110249113
There's reports that similar shit is happening on cachy, linus vibeslopped kernels are the main issue

>>110249113
Probably just driver bugs, it happens. On my Gentoo install the other day I brought up the window overlay with Super+W and the whole screen briefly turned into a pink acid trip with the colours looking all weird. It fixed itself but was pretty funny.

>>110249121
your gpu is dying, boo

>>110249137
Don't utter such cursed words in these trying times

>>110249137
It's not. Go away. I can't have a component failure yet.

>Epic Games Launcher
>.deb
>.appimage
>EAC isn't ready yet
>no fortnite support as a result

>>110249137
nah it doesn't happen on older distros

>>110249222
>no fortnite support as a result
And nothing of value was lost. Hopefully, the EAC they're working on will provide some incentive for other anti-cheat vendors to develop support for Linux too, but Epic as a company could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care.

>>110248186
What about it are you preferring over waybar? In the past week I've installed gentoo for the first time and got waybar set up. I'm interested in hearing about other potentially better options.

>>110249239
>provide some incentive for other anti-cheat vendors
Let's hope so
>could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care
I have too much time invested into that game at this point.

Help me Anons, I'm looking for a lightweight distribution for learning Linux. Only CLI (sadly it eliminates most live distributions), bash, awk, grep, sed, python, C, Fortran, Emacs, man. That's all.
PS: Is there any spreadsheet software working in text mode?

>>110249288
Can't you just install a headless version of any OS to a flash drive and then boot to said flash drive? Or better yet, just get raspberry pi os lite and toss it into a vm.

>>110249288
>ubuntu server
>debian
>arch
I'm sure there a plenty of others. Emacs has org-mode, and someone probably has made it work with excel files too.

>>110248968
>what is open source
why are ubuntu/fedora users so ignorant?

>>110249250
nothing wrong with waybar desu but it does take a bit of tinkering to make it feel "polished"

noctalia comes with everything out of the box, a bar, an app launcher, screenshots, widgets (with a visual editor!) bluetooth and network manager, lock screen, notification system etc

you can just download it and see how it feels, personally i like it
>>110249288
any headless would do but you might as well go all in and use arch (btw)

>>110249575
That does actually sound really nice. My current setup feels pretty hacked together, which was neat to do initially but having something more cohesive for continued use would be preferred.

I'll give it a shot. Thanks.

>>110240653
This happened to me when my wife snapped and was finally fed up with Windows and told me to "just install Fedora on my laptop".

She never looked back. She says she wouldn't use Windows even at gunpoint.

Which distribution is most important to the entire Linux ecosystem, like if it died over the night, which one would in that hypothetical scenario cause the most trouble and issues if it goes missing.
>Debian
>Ubuntu
>Fedora
>RHEL
>openSUSE
>SLE
>Arch
>SteamOS
>Gentoo
>ChromeOS

>Slackware
>Gnome OS
>KDE Linux
>Pop_OS
>Alpine
>Guix
>Mint
>Zorin
>Nobara
>CachyOS
>PikaOS
>EndeavourOS

Does any distro or it's maintainers even matter all that much, is Linux simply too independant and fragmented for any distro to ever be able to matter much in the entire Linux space?

>Debian
>Ubuntu
Ubuntu is forked from Debian so if Debian disappeared, so would Ubuntu.

>Fedora
>RHEL
Aren't these two the same ecosystem?

>Gentoo
>ChromeOS
ChromeOS is built using Gentoo so if Gentoo disappeared, so would ChromeOS.

>Pop_OS
>Mint
These are just Ubuntu. Like not even forks or anything.

>EndeavourOS
Endeavour is just Arch but with a nice installer and it installs a desktop for you. But it's 100% Arch.

>>110249288
>Only CLI (sadly it eliminates most live distributions)
You can have any distro as a minimal base system, even Ubuntu. What distro are you looking for? I can give you tips on how to bootstrap it minimally.

>>110250004
Fedora by a mile

>>110250067
>>110250004
Definitely Fedora, but also RHEL as well, the two together really. Life would move on without them but Red Hat employs a lot of developers to actually work on shit, especially important things like the toolchain and glibc, etc. Fedora Rawhide is really the testing ground for them to make sure they didn't break any shit and regularly gets major toolchain or glibc updates coming through to test them in a distribution properly.

>>110250004
all the new stuff that makes linux better for desktop use comes from valve (whos software runs on basically every distro) and red hat who do most of their development and testing on fedora.
most community project distros don't have any funding to create anything new. they simply adopt the new stuff or maintain their old stuff.
most non web facing servers (who make up the majority) run either ubuntu server or rhel (or one of it's forks)

>>110250004
debian and debian derived distros are the most widely used by a mile so thats a no brainer

Ghana/Linus won.

>>110250172
...by cloudjeets. If you use Linux you live in the house RedHat built. If God pulled the chain and flushed the entire .deb faecalsystem tomorrow, Linux would keep moving as if nothing had happened. Because nothing of value has happened on Debian in over 25 years.

>>110250603
Trvuth nvke

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>>110250603
this. linux would probably become better.

>>110250619
trvuth nvke?

>i can use my yubikey to authenticate sudo

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>using Fedora KDE for around a year now
>longest time using a single linux distribution or linux at all
>Radeon GPU
>recent updates completely fucked over gaming
>wine preloader and Proton are completely shafted
>all online sources say Wayland is at fault
>trying to launch with options or using gamescope dont work or dont work properly
>even the controller gets fucked over by it
>thinking about just installing a second Desktop Environment to be rid of it
Will it work? Which one should I use? I hate GNOME or anything that has that ugly thin abr at the top you cant get rid of.

>>110251577
works on my machine

>>110251577
Have you tried rolling back the kernel? Hold shift at startup and select the oldest one

>>110251577
I also had some Wayland issues with vidya, but then I just switched back to X11 since I'm on Mint.

>>110251659
I dont even get the option for X11 anymore and trying to dnf install plasma-workspace-x11 it says "nothing to do". apparently it's been discontinued with 6.8 or something

>>110251577
>SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 %command%
had to use it exactly one time for one game (beamng) because my steam controller doesn't work well on wayland

any distros worth a shit on a tablet other than the google one? basically want to use a phone screen or tablet screen to open simple apps like a music player, or a radio, navigation, or run a script. basically want an android auto replacement that I can run off of an HTPC to use for all the typical car shit and some war driving rf recon etc.

>>110251916
That actually works halfway descent.
On MHWilds, it works like the gamescope launch option I used so far: allows the game to launch and play, but my controller still doesnt work.
On HD2, it works better, because it DOESNT disable half my keyboard buttons while allowing the controller to work 100%. but I dont know if it prevents the constant crashes I had until i test further (freeze, then force quit)
I fucking ahte this fuckass wayland shit.
And I know my controller works fine, btw. I also tried enabling/forcing steam controller input

>>110252041
prolly either ubuntu or a minimalist ubuntu fork with GNOME. They run with everything and the user interface is basically already fisher price level.

>>110251659
I did the same thing. For Nvidia, you have to use their proprietary drivers and they don't play well with the wayland and it's Nvidia's fault.

I've been using X11 forever, but wondering how well it's going to play with VR virtual screens. I want multiple displays.

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>>110252041
just get kde plasma

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>>110245718
>>110246508
>went back to windows
>this actually kinda feel like shit in comparison (may be my imagination)
>wasn't happy with how the cachy test turned out
>I can't just let shit go, I have to get it working once I try it even if I have no plans to use it
>reinstall cachy
>reinstall all my games
>get everything working as it was before
>gamepad works via synapse web
>plug in g502 instead of wireless
>works as expected with piper
>reconfigure mpv (WASAPI to pipewire)
>get my few other normal apps set up
>everything just works
>there's not 800 processes in task manager

Hm.....I'm not sure about this bros. I haven't done any major tweaking or w/e it's called yet but this definitely feels good and desu it would be nice to mostly get away from synapse since that app is complete fucking dog shit. I can use synapse web for my tartarus, the g502 works with piper, I can go back to my wooting KB adn I'm all set there. My 780 mod list works flawless, Transport Fever 3 works flawlessly and so does Crimson desert. outside of that I only really watch shows and youtube. I'm gonna have to give this more time.

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Long time arch Linux user. I thought I would try another distro that does a lot of pre-set up for you this time. I tried Manjaro because it's based on arch. That was a mistake. I spent a lot of time unpicking a lot of the bullshit that it installs and configures.

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Does anyone try NYXOS? I'm tempted to give it a go because it looks like infrastructure as code type shit, and that sounds pretty cool. But I really like the vast adoption and support that arch Linux has. I'm not sure if I would run into any gaps in support or missing packages

>>110252361
I think Cachyos or Endeavour are the go to for Arch based, nobody uses Manjaro anymore

>>110252384
I think I learned my lesson by installing anything, quote unquote, arch-based. I don't know why I would do that in the future rather than just installing arch. It kind of doesn't make any sense.

>>110251203
You can use it for anything that uses PAM for authentication. That's the beauty of the Pluggable Authentication Module. An application just has to use PAM and you get the support for free. Same deal with fingerprint authentication, Google 2FA, etc. PAM is kind of bloated and more minimal distros don't always use it but it allows for powerful things like that.

>>110251577
Boot the previous kernel like other Anon said, or roll back to a the last root snapshot if that doesn't fix it. There are zero excuses not to have one. Trying to fix upstream regressions by changing GUI is retard behavior.

>>110252460
CachyOS at least tried to do something different. Endeavour, not much point now that Archinstall exists
Manjaro, how about Manjarno. Too stupid, bad track record and holds back packages for no reason whilst not testing the packages so bugs/issues hit the repos anyway.

CachyOS is the only one actually doing something different by focusing on performance optimisations.

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>>110252379
Here are some things I don't like about NixOS
The documentation is ass. You can solve every problem in 10 different ways and fragments of documentation for every solution are scattered over the entire internet.
NixOS has a huge development overhead. They have to maintain their own config modules + patches for a lot of software to make it work on Nix. This can be pretty fragile.
Because of the previous point, running the unstable branch is actually unstable while also not being as up-to-date as the regular Arch repos. I encountered broken packages during an update multiple times. It can be fixed by pinning the package to an old version but it's annoying. Running stable + a selection of unstable packages is probably a better idea.
The updates are huge. Fox example a minor update of glibc (that doesn't even have to break compatibility, it's enough for the hash to change) will cause the entire system to update.
Running random dynamically linked software from the internet/npm/pip, etc. doesn't work out of the box.
The binary cache doesn't cache unfree software. You have to compile these packages locally which can be a pain in the dick depending on the package.

On the plus side, nixpkgs is bigger than the AUR and it had all programs I need. Managing mutiple machines is a breeze, rollbacks are cool. You can boot the live usb, and install your config directly from github. The ability to mix and match package versions is cool. Also, unlike other distros they keep EVERY built package version in the binary cache forever which is nuts.

>>110252795
these are valid and interesting points thank you for this effort post

borne again korn

>>110247479
Give me frosted glass or give me death. But I do like it. I basically do this with gnome tweaks and it works great.

Make sure you can make certain things transparent independently. Sometimes I want my taskbar to be transparent but nothing else. Or maybe only my window decorations, etc.

>>110251203
>>110252483
Tried to configure that on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed but it seems they really don't want you to, not to mention that PAM configuration is arcane to me, at least the way it's set up on Tumbleweed

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>>110253282
i just asked ai to set it up for me.

sudo dnf install -y pam-u2f pamu2fcfg

mkdir -p ~/.config/Yubico
pamu2fcfg > ~/.config/Yubico/u2f_keys

sudo nano /etc/pam.d/sudo

auth       sufficient   pam_u2f.so cue [cue_prompt="Please touch your YubiKey: "]

>>110253422
Well that's easy but opensuse tumbleweed does some including/generic profiles for different scenarios.

>>110253422
>

Please touch your YubiKey

*unzips*

>>110252498
>previous kernel
booting the oldestkernel version (7.2.9-200) available via GRUB doesnt change a thing.
>root snapshot
Never heard of using that to fix a problem.
>Trying to fix upstream regressions by changing GUI is retard behavior.
People keep whining about Wayland on here every single thread and then when I think about ditching wayland because it keeps causing problems due to poor support of Radeon GPUs it's retard behaviour? How? I thought the advantage of Linux is that you can swap things out when it isnt to my liking?

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Should I run Fedora or Arch?
The only thing keeping me on Fedora is SELinux protections, official Google Chrome repo, and generally being a high quality, well supported OS. I don't want to run Flatpak Chrome or deal with AUR busywork and maintenance overhead. But Arch Extra repo has lots of desktop-relevant packages. To do the same on Fedora requires COPR which is untrustworthy.

>>110254043
Arch

>>110254043
fedora has some recent shenanigans with amd gpu hard crashes, but thats about it

>>110254043
>But Arch Extra repo has lots of desktop-relevant packages. To do the same on Fedora requires COPR which is untrustworthy.
name those packages? why aren't they in rpmfusion or terra?

>>110254043
arch is a diy distro, you can configure and harden it to be better than any fedora defaults if you know what you're doing. but also all the maintenance of burden and control and testing falls onto you. for most people fedora is a better option, but they're honestly really lazy too, there's no excuse for how complicated they make it to get multimedia codecs or nvidia drivers setup, especially secureboot with nvidia, it should be a one click gui thing and the user should never have to do anything in the terminal. And fedora can often be very heavy for some reason, there's a crosseyed old chud on youtube that does testing of distros in terms of ssd speeds and basic benchmarks and fedora out of the box is often times pretty heavy in terms of ram/cpu/ssd, probably because of some background auto update or filesystem or security/selinux configurations. But there's no perfect distro.

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>>110250004
RHEL/Fedora is most certainly the golden child. They pay professionals to contribute. Plus Oracle is actively contributing too with their Oracle Linux spin of RHEL.
If you don't want Fedora (who would) but you want the benefit of all that dev time, you use Rocky Linux like a normal person.
I don't think anyone else can come close. Not anymore at least.

>>110254359
>arch is a diy distro, you can configure and harden it to be better than any fedora defaults
Nonsense. You can't get anywhere close to parity for SEL and certainly nothing quite like atomic.

>>110254403
atomic is not even a official edition of fedora, only workstation and kde plasma are. and there are many unofficial arch forks that are atomic like arkane linux. but im not trying to overhype arch, its not that great, and i honestly wouldnt suggest it to home users, even if you do a fresh install properly and configure everything which is very difficult, its a burden to keep up with news of whats going on in linux world and changing your config and adding/removing stuff to keep up, while fedora team would do that for you, or opensuse or ubuntu, etc.

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>>110250004
Ubuntu

https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology#most-popular-technologies-op-sys-op-sys

>>110254436
Atomic isn't an edition, it is a project for a true immutable distro and a new patch system that fixes the insane shit wrong with linux patching as a core concept. Something even Windows does better these days.
And SEL, there really is no argument, it is better in RHEL/Fedora/Oracle/Rocky. Just a fact. It is the go-to platform for security.

>>110253532
>>root snapshot
>Never heard of using that to fix a problem.
So your performance went bad after a software update, and you don't see how reverting the system to before the update could fix this?

>>110254359
>multimedia codecs
just download VLC player from flatphub, after enabling third party on discovery, thats it
I also went through a lot the first time i used fedora, but this was basically the one step to just get codecs, even mp4

>>110254475
>Atomic isn't an edition, it is a project for a true immutable distro and a new patch system that fixes the insane shit wrong with linux patching as a core concept.
wrong, that's not how fedora is organized.
coreos, which is an edition, is immutable, too. atomic desktops, done by a lowly special-interest-group, not working-group, just try to bring coreos to the desktop.

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>always laughed at people "customizing their desktop/OS"
>always said that's all linux is good for
>been trying out linux (cachy)
>everything works
>start customizing my stuff
>haven't been this happy with my desktop in years

How could I have been so wrong about everything.

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gonna upgrade my Fedora 43 on X270 straight to 45. Usually I just do fresh install every 12 months, wish me luck bros...

>>110254841
why would you make fun of people personalizing their personal computer, genuinely how old are you that used to be the norm

>>110254841
i've been using linux for a few years now and i still think it's cringe to customize.

>>110254504
>you don't see how reverting the system to before the update could fix this?
No that is wrong.
I never heard of this as a way to fix a problem.
To be more precise: I never heard of this outside of people messing with stuff they shouldnt be messing with and then taking a step back. i.e. stuff I usually dont mess with anyway.

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>>110254328
>terra
I forgot about this. I might stick with Fedora for now and try migrating my system from RPM Fusion to Terra after I upgrade to 45.
>name those packages
I can't remember all of them now, but things like Yazi and Ghostty.
>>110254359
>you can configure and harden it to be better than any fedora defaults
As >>110254403 implied, getting SELinux properly configured on anything but Red Hat is just not worth it. I was considering foregoing this but I'm going to try Terra now as mentioned above.
>but they're honestly really lazy too
I've done the Arch thing before. It's not being lazy, it's that I have better things to do and like my OS to be cohesive and take care of itself as much as possible.
>fedora can often be very heavy
I noticed this many years ago compared to Debian but it seems fine now.
>there's no perfect distro
So true.

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>>110254841
I slapped on a shitty Win XP theme with garish mismatched faggier aero icons and and a FF turned Netscape browser that autostarts with liquid dnb music with animu girls dancing and I couldn't be fucking happier

>>110254932
Regressions happen from updates. Especially on fast release distros like Fedora and Arch. Now you've heard of it.

>>110254879
It was more like people only posted pictures of their desktop or konsole and literally nothing else so it became kinda of a meme (at least in my head) that's all linux was good for.

>>110254871
why wouldn't that work?

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/
>System upgrade is only officially supported and tested over 2 releases at most (e.g. from 43 to 45).

>>110255319
fedora is not a fast release distro. it's a stable distro with new distro releases cut every 6 months. within a stable release there should be no regressions.
only a few packages get an exception for non-stable updates:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#_exceptions
>KDE
>LXQt
>kernel package
>Rust -devel packages
>golang package

>>110255581
It gets GNOME releases faster than Arch retard. You're literally on the bleeding edge. Long time Fedora users upgraded to 44 last month because we know how this shit works.

>GNOME
The second and third letters in GNOME are the answer to whether you should use it or not.

>>110255978
You should be 1325 letters in GNOME.

>>110255970
Arch got GNOME 51 before Fedora.

>>110255506
it wasn't like this before, they only supported step by step upgrade one release at the time. Fedora only changed their upgrade policy very recently

>>110255970
>>110255581
Point release doesn't mean lagging behind, especially when a new release comes every 6 months. Also rolling release doesn't mean bleeding edge (arch has a separate release of packages for the bleeding edge part).
But then, if you updoot to a new point release every six months you are kind of a rolling release user anyway. Don't the point release system lose its purpose at that point?
>>110254841
Now do a custom kernel.

>>110254841
hello zei

>>110254359
Arch is a binary distro just like Fedora, what's there to "DIY"?

>>110256287
Is that some fag streamer or something

>>110255581
It’s actually much more than that, just not advertised.

>>110256308
by DIY the anon obviously means you are left with the bare minimum and you install the programs you want to install instead of leaving it up to the distro. i don't get why everytime someone explains arch as a DIY distro some faggot with hyper autism needs to act retarded and pretend like they don't understand what this means.

Why are repos better than getting the software directly from the developer? For example Godot and Blender both have the compressed software on their websites, why use a middleman to get it?

>>110256844
imagine setting a server and having to download every package from various sources when you can just write a script that reproduces the same setup for any machine