why people buy this overpriced piece of shit?Do they think that they are cool or something?I truly dont get it. Remember the $999 screen stand?
it just works
>>110244603So does my pc. It should have a 'just' price too.
>>110244625crApple users really think every other piece of hardware and OS is stuck somewhere around 15-20 years in the past. And you need to be an IT guy with a STEM degree to be able to operate those other, inferior devices.
>>110244592they know little about computers and get their info from influencers that are payed to shill
What's wrong with it?
>>110244592>why people buy this overpriced piece of shit?want a desktopdon't want windowstoo employed for linux desktop
>>110244592the system and the gpu share a memory pool so you can get a lot of mem for ai models for the price
>>110244592Being overpriced is the only reason I can think of for these retards buying it.
>>110244770You can stack rtx 3080 or even rtx3090 in a motherboard with many pci slots and have much more faster memory and infinitely more computer power to run ai models for the same price.
>>110244787see >>110244603 people who buy macs are not going to research which motherboard to get and troll ebay for good deals on graphics cards
This thread is /g/tards incapable of theory of mind being confused by normal people and normal people needs
>>110244592It wasn’t so overpriced when you could get an M4 Max with 196 GB of unified RAM at 8000 MT/s and a 2Tb SSD for $2500.Thats what I paid for mine.Money isn’t real btw
>>110244787the memory doesn't pool like you are implying it does4 32gb cards does not equal a single 128gb space fit for models
>>110244867Dont try to argue with that retard because she is poor and stupid and she will never understand
>>110244867You can put 128gb of ddr5 cheaper on a normal pc than in that cuntbox with an apple.
>>110244906Yes but it will be half as slow. You really do not understand what you are talking about. You can buy laptops right now that use the same memory architecture as Mac and the speed is incredible. But it is soldered on like mac
Unified memory, no intelligent person is doing AI at home on some faggot GPU with its own memory in 2026 lol. Get with the times, thirdies.
Why can't Intel and AMD just compete with unified memory? Why do we have to endure all these faux-confused shill threads? Is the strategy to just... pretend to be confused forever and not actually compete?Until AMD and Intel get their shit together, Apple's king of home / small business AI.
>>110244932Well, Nvidia is trying to compete with DGX Spark/RTX Spark, but they're missing the mark. Performance-wise on DGX and price-wise on RTX.
>>110244941NVIDIA doesn't want to cannibalize its own markets, is what I figure.
Once you have a job overpaying slightly for some appliance has no incidence on your life
>>110244668Win11 is worse than 20 year old stuffLinux you pick between krashes and use case?Pretty much leaves macos
>>110244932What do you mean? Apple gets killed in time to first token and prompt processing prefill right now and that is where most of the important tasks are like for ingesting large documents and code bases for analysis and etc. If you want it to just chat interactively, sure, maybe it's worth it but vs DGX Spark or Strix/Medusa Halo which is Nvidia and AMD's unified memory solutions? They are well competing with Apple and blow it the fuck out.
>>110244906desktop memory that you can replace will never be as fast as soldered memory. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>110245035yes but look at the price the mac has. Is insane.Even with a multiple gpus vs the unified memory advantage, a stack of rtx gpus murders the mac for the same price. And i am talking about performance related to AI. If we talk about fp32 scientific computing there is not even a point of comparing them.
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>>110244592>comparing a screen stand with a mini pc which have been a thing since foreverget out newfaggot
>>110245160i am comparing overpriced shit with overpriced shit.go to dilate and take your hormones
>>110245189NoYou are a comparing a piece of furniture (albeit a shitty one) with a computing stationAnd then you faggots have the nerve of asking why this board keeps being shittier by tanking the quality of board with retarded engagementbait like yoursGo fuck yourself all of you
>>110245189>go to dilate and take your hormoneslmao saar!
>>110245226what did apple do to your brain for you to become such fanboy zombies?
>>110245249Is your brain the size of a peanut? where did you see me endorse apple retardo?make an actual thread or fuck off
>>110245276do you have an apple dildo or an i-dilate too?the $999 apple stand is an obscene overpriced piece of aluminum, and the Macstudio is overpriced as fuck too when compared with a stack of used gpus that will do the same.What cant you understand you dumbuckerino?
>>110245276You're arguing with a jeet, dude.
>>110244592they have relatively good performance/memory for their priceapples architecture of shared CPU/GPU memory means you can run relatively big LLMs on em and they have good networking to connect a few together
>>110245354dont get emotional Timmy, you can go and jack off to your pretty apple now
>>110245398definitely a jeet
>>110245368So what gives a better performance? One cpu/gpu with a ton of unified memory or 4x incredibly faster gpus but with faster memory divided in 4 cards?
>>110245509idk I have 256 gigs ddr4 machine with big xeon, it's slow as fuck especially for first prompt but running models in less memory comes with too much cognitive hit so idk what people are even doing with 128 gb macs, like yeah it's fast but it's also stupid.
>>110245509performance? you cannot even run a big model when it doesn't fit in memory.
>>110245650you can run a single model across multiple gpus
>>110245685it does not scale linearly.128+128=/=256
>>110245509it dependsGPUs are way faster they just dont have the memory for big models
>>110245509a mac will not use its cpu for anything. it's all run on the tensorcores.
>>110245737well, they are much slower than the gpus anyway. The mac advantage is the memory package.So this comes to 1 big memory pack and slow computing vs multiple memory packs and fast computing.
>>110245758outdated knowledge.apple silicon has tensor cores now. there's no big disadvantage in compute anymore.
>>110244592>why people buy this overpriced piece of shit?because they amazon account get banned if they try and buy this overpriced piece of shit instead
>>110244592no bully mac mini and studio they're actually decent value unlike the apple laptops for coffee shop hoppers
>>110245137You are a stupid fuck.That image shows a 1 oz silver dollarThen a silver dollar bank noteThen the non-silver redeemable Fed Reserve Banknote for $1Do you know the current spot price of silver?$52 fucking dollarsThere is your inflation.Decoupling the dollar from precious metals allowed the Federal Reserve bank Jews to print money until it is literally nearly worthless
>>110245005that's a copie small amount of memory sars. Real chads run the real studios>>110244592good morning sars, apple is very expensive sars, but AMD and android are a very good value!
>>110244592>escape Windows without giving up your pro apps for the most part>much higher possible GPU-accessible memory capacity (512 GB) than the RTX 5090 (32 GB) and even the RTX Pro 6000 (96 GB)>cheaper than the current market price of the RTX Pro 6000 for most configurations>highest-end Mac Studio GPU beats out the 5090 at path traced rendering in the Blender benchmarks
