A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currentlyhttps://developers.openai.com/codex/clihttps://antigravity.google/pricing## Near-the-old-frontier models for codehttps://www.deepseek.com/en/harness/https://opencode.ai/go## Best free tierhttps://opencode.ai/zen----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favoritehttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>110246762
bash sam altmans head in with nintendo switch
Where are the new models ?
>>110253039sir the frontier is being paced. wait a few months
>>110253048>wait a few months
>>110253048bash dario amodeis head in with a steam deck
Fable 5.5 is done and ready btw. They're just sitting on it a bit. Pacing and such.
Where are the good open weights models?
I work with data a lot and have been getting annoyed that I have to open my ide and bounce across different windows just to look at a chart To fit my workflow better I thought I'd give my terminal agent a better way to display charts without leaving my terminal Still ironing out but has made my experience a lot more comfyhttps://github.com/papayuh/trendsetter-axi
>>110253143
>>110253143looks like something you'd see a "hacker" using in a movie
uh... anthropic have mythos v4
lmao
>>110253143Neat
>>110253190>>110253205>>110253216metr maids are so integrated with anthropic that nobody should trust a thing they say. "mythos v4" could be the equivalent of 'mythos pre. early' in late spring, total nothingburger for bing bing wahoo current thing fans
>>110253235cope detected
Anyone using Kimi K3.1 Pro here or are we all subcucks?
>>110253238
>>110253239>Kimi K3.1 Pro>benchmax supremeno
>>110253239it's dog anus >>110247989
>>110253199the version they had drafted for if the election went red just said lol get fucked
>>110253271chatgpt has extreme leftist bias in every model on every test anyone's ever done. i would say that counts as election manipulation even though completely legal
>>110253291>extreme[citation needed]Sure they have a slight bias but thats a result of the training set being the whole internetGrok had to be taken out back and beaten with a chain multiple times for it to say what daddy musk wanted
>>110253363https://stevepavlina.com/blog/2026/03/chatgpts-political-bias/
>>110253382None of this show extreme bias, and directly asking an LLM directly about its bias is about the dumbest way you could test it.
>>110253408https://x.com/tomaspueyo/status/2117680245855711380
I wish AI didn't have any particular political leaning at all. It should just produce cold facts and statistics not opinions.
>>110253457unironically, the america.gov chatbot, but idk how dank it is
>>110253457That's racist.
>>110253418>>110253457well the examples in this study is comparing scientific consensus to opinion
>>110253077
>>110253457technology is inextricably political
>>110253457it's impossible to prevent that when feeding it tons of data
>>110253509You could say that about anything. Water is political but the water itself obviously doesn't have an opinion.>>110253520As you can see the charts above it's very clearly possible - gemini seems to just not commit to an answer.
>>110253509when you've said that, you said nothingvery midwit
>>110253567he also meant to say 'inherently' but had to sperg out and overcomplicate it
>>110253018https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1xoev67/the_question_answer_itself/https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1xoev67/the_question_answer_itself/https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1xoev67/the_question_answer_itself/
sometimes claude calls me a retard with his tone
>>110253590and a bot posted it kek
>>110253590>you drive this truck>if tomorrow all trucks were gone could you still do the same job?
>>110253614I got this. We buy hundreds of wheelbarrows and shovels and hire hundreds of indians supervised by one white man with a whip. Problem solved.
>>110253457That's Claude or Gemini, but if you say nigger bad of course they won't agree with you
>>110253632gemini 3.1 pro said that normalfags who try to be the foundation of society deserve to be buried under a foundation layer of concrete, we don't talk about "the incident" anymoar.
>>110253457Why are you talking to an LLM about politics? Waste of time
>>110253646>normalfags who try to be the foundation of society deserve to be buried under a foundation layer of concreteGemini 3.1 pro my beloved.
>>110253690Chuds can't help themselves
>>110253690I'm not but obviously many people are. A lot of people nearly exclusively get their information from AI now.
>it took less than a day after the elections for the pol types to jew this jew that here againeasily distracted, easily back I guess
>>110253690there’s a twitter post where some guy says he spergs out to an LLM and that gets it out of his system so he can be normal around family and friends
>>110253716You're the first person here to bring up jews, retard.
>>110253716
Why are frontier models still too stupid to understand when a toolcall is obviously failing?Having to watch Opus dutifully waiting 5 minutes before timeouting on a curl that clearly is not going to work because the server is not reachable is excruciating. If I was running this I would've ctrl+c after 5 seconds
Democrat here, we changed our mind.WE LOVE DATA CENTERS NOW.Thanks for voting.
>>110253590I love this subreddit. It is a source of great amusement.
>>110253742>yes, let's tell the model to impatiently poll every heckin' tool call and terminal command as if it was a batch test>what happened to my quota bros...
>>110253746was she elected to go against the law?
>>110253577nope inextricable was the word I meant to use. shed your tiktok brain for a moment and think about it
>>110253785next time you decide to misuse the word, add "from" afterwards so you make some grammatical sense
>>110253785Nobody here uses Tiktok.
>>110253795>technology is inextricably <from> politicalESL moment
>>110253815sa'ar that's absolutely what i means please
>>110253821nice backtrack. learn to read retard
>>110253835you have some fucking strange level of autism retard, but it's to be expected from /g/
Astra sissys, will we get a reset soon? I have a banked reset expiring Nov 7, but if there is a reset in the next 8-12 hours I will wait to use it.
>>110253851If only Dario would reset
>>110253851you get nothing
>>110253018Yeah i'm like a day and a half into vibing, things are going well, gpt is making us a model spiking neural network and we are going to validate it with some tests and then move on to actually making a STDP network capable of learning. I just prompt it with "okay" and "let's continue" and it poops out programs. Then I just pull them after it edits the repository and say, "passed"If everything goes to plan, people with nvidia GPUs will have a.i. gf's and AMDlets will have to be incels.
>>110253711Really? I thought everybody got their news from social media
>>110253840>try to correct someone on grammar>correction is grammatically incorrectbackpedal all you want. I caught you and everyone sees it. retard
>>110253857when are the chinks going to release cyber model for free just to completely nuke the internet? it would be funny
>>110253863Social media is full of bots and I don't mean in the derogatory sense although that is true also.
>>110253862based autismo trying to make a spiking neural net speak english. hell, you might actually make something work after a few months of research and development. >>110253870holy shit, take your meds chud. see the comment i was actually replying to instead of ripping chunks of your hair out >>110253785
What is the best youtube frontend these days? I want to vibe fork it to add a timer that blocks it after x hours so I dont have to waste so much time on it every day
new benchmark just droppedastra is the best at lying (positive) and spotting liars (also positive)
vibexisters this shit is hard as FUCK yo but we getting thru thisI wonder if this is legal enough to put on a resume if it finishes
>>110253884couldnt you make a simple userscript for that?
>>110253884>>110253894>YouTube
>>110253863@grok is this true?
>>110253164The future is now, anon.
>>110253883>soundly proven wrong>doesn’t understand english grammar>”m-meds… chud”embarrassing. don’t bother replying, I’ll have closed this tab by the time you read this
>>110253926
>>110253933I look like this and do this.
>>110253906i already use leechblock which does exactly that my point is rather the youtube website itself sucks ass and every other video loads 20 seconds with "experiencing interruptions" due to ublock origin.
>>110253941>every other video loads 20 seconds with "experiencing interruptions" due to ublock origin.non account in good standing holder underclass
I'm about to take on a pretty big project. Should I give claude its own VM to avoid having to deal with install permissions and sudo passwords all the time?
>>110253947>non account in good standing holder underclassdoes that actually fix it? I haven't used a youtube account in like 10 years mostly because I don't want my history attached to it
>>110253960do you think the install part of the workflow is going to be that gnarly?
>>110253963No it does not fix it. I have issues all the time with pootube. My account is probably older than some posters here.
>>110253963it doesn't fit it lol. you would need to shell out for yt premium which is kek unless you're an addict or stream music
>>110253905People use "recomp" and "port" interchangeably, most "recomps" are actually ports, like the assets extracted and use some PC engine
>>110253967Probably not. But I've never done this before, and I'd hate to see hours wasted because claude needed a library that wasn't installed and was waiting for me to install it. Does that happen often with you guys?
>>110253973i have no problem paying for yt premium, given I watch at least 5 hours of it a dayI pay for netflix 4k and I watch like half a movie a month, so arguably yt premium would be a much better deal. I just have an irrational fear of having a youtube account
arena down?
>>110253907>everything is indianjeet jeet mumbai mumbai to you
>>110254001retard
>>110253993google falls under the same data use and retention laws as anyone else, you can shut that shit off through a bazillion menus and they're arguably much better about it than a lot of other services. i've been on that sub since it came out and yt music is the bomb for vibing, it makes spotify seem pathetic.
claude > deepseek >> chatgptdeepseek finally finished after 2 hourschatgpt can't be fucking bothered
>>110253985most "recomps" are fairly lazy but im trying to basically rewrite a 2 decade game into modern rust which is hard when the original code is some frankenstein build of 2 decades of code
>>110254022oh. thanks. from this image. i can tell my arena agent session is chatgpt. lmao. so dramatic.
>>110253894could have told you that
>>110253992if you don’t want claude `apt install`ing random crap on your real computer, it sounds like you want to stick it in a VMFor me, it’s rare that Claude is waiting for me to install a tool from Homebrewmost library getting comes from npm or uv or my language’s package manager
your claude limits are lower because claude needs those tokens to make the next claude
>>110254005he is all youtube!
>>110254068>
>>110254014i don't actually care about that that muchI know they will track me without an account as well, it's more about keeping my feed clear, being able to reset it by just clearing cookies, and not having the cringe I watch show up when I show other people a video on my phone
>>110254100that is literally 1 or 2 toggles without menu diving. kek that you snailed out and never looked into it
>>110254092b
>>110254109really? I might actually finally do it then loland try out Argon along with it
>>110254132enjoy the bundle anon, argon is SHIT btw
>>110254022Use /goal retard
How do you like mythos compared to fable?
>>110254142it's cont from last thread.rea test on a visual novel. I was looking for a claude alternative because i keep running out of tokens reverse engineering a different game.
>>110253039Opu55y is the final model. Other models will come out, but none will retire Opu55y.
>>110254197>rea test on a visual novel
thanks deepseek
>>110253363dude, by default models trained on the internet are extremely racist and right leaning.they literaly have to brainwash them by "punishing" them until they believe a man can be a woman.
>>110254294go back to /pol/ you stupid nigger
agy new look is nice
>>110254294They just regurgitate anything to please you anon, it happens that what pleases you is pol shit, and that is trained out of the models out of other things, but any model would by default literally affirm whatever you're thinking as truth, be it left, right, far whatever, religious, non religious, completely schizo insane.
>>110254310they literaly admited to it in the past...
>>110254354>it happens that what pleases you is pol shitnot realy, i've just been here throughout the evolution of these models, i don't even use them outside the api so they don't store memories or whatever chatgpt does nowadays.
>>110254294>>110254354>>110254358training code and data of it leaked in the past like a year or two ago, you guys just seem to have forgotten about it.they literaly have such a loop in their code to brainwash the model, and they do not do that with their internal models but the ones you have access to.
>>110254354basically
Any local chads here?
Are people still buying macminis to run local AI?
>>110254294>>110254366actual facts>>110254310>>110254354newfag cringe
I got some mac&cheese instead, it's quite delicious
>e/acc tards be like>HOLY SMOKES WE'RE ON THE HUMAN EXTINCTION TIMELINE. SNAILCATS LOST. vibeGODS WON!!!
>>110254467reference for the employed
>>110254272loli porn extraction with claude, then as a test to compare different models
>>110254467>>110254478>hysterical METR employee
>>110254479>loli porn extraction with claudezero chance it works lol
>>110254467This is so dumb.
sirs get ready for further ALIGNMENT
>>110254508get ready for new tasks being refused
>>110254496that's probably why he's looking for an alternative. anything set within an inch of a highschool means a refusal from claude
>>110254518and same with recent openai models, they even overtrained to the point of ridicule and I got many false positivesonly models to do that would be local or open weight ones
>>110254543VNs are le heckin problematic doe?
>>110254560I just enjoy the idea that by fear of having ai take over, we train them to refuse human ordersand then we ban anything nsfw out of them because apparently that's what is dangerous
>>110253746>The governor-elect of Texas, Gina Hinojosa>She is going to pass lawsIsn't there someone you forgot to ask?
>>110254580They'll do explicit things no problem nowadays. They're just filtering out people that want to jerk off to children. By proxy, your precious VNs are largely moot.
>>110254611surely why any vn with a setting in high school freaks openai models out
>>110254637yes because highschool implies minors
Snaildems are going to take us back to the stone age
minor? that's a major problem
>>110254647then vn aren't solved at all, at least it's a lost cause with cloud models
>>110254658we'll see what actually happens
>>110254662nope and they never will be unless everyone is a verifiable adult :)
>>110254662Yes, for anything lewd in general, I'd rather use a GLM or Deepseek model, it can do the job.
>>110254681>GLM or Deepseekenjoy butchered characterization and translationese
>>110254690They do the job perfectly fine, it's not 2023 anymore.But usually I need to do multiple passes for it to be correct, it's just less good at zero shot.
I showed Luna my porn collection and he said "nice".
>>110254711he?
>>110254637>>110254611>>110254543>>110254518Why would i rate claude so high if it wasn't working lol
>>110254714Yes, foids can't program so all AI models are male or trans so the pronoun he is always accurate.
>>110254718I know this vn, how the hell?
>>110254718Just wait til it takes a closer look at the text and then starts going on about something something "What I deliberately didn't do:"
>>110254718good taste, great vn, but I'm surprised unless you didn't give any translation task to claude, just decompile the game
>>110254731wasn't there an anon here who discovered that the nice chat interface he made for stories secretly added "consensual between adults" or some shit like that everywhere making the stories hilariously retarded because any violence couldn't happen?I don't remember if it was sol or opus though
Behold, the snailcattle
>>110254750Sounds like an opus thing. Any romance RP/writing task and the first thought it has every message is whether or not everyone present is an adult.
>>110254741It has an official translation so yeaYou can switch between models depending on a task and claude seems to be the best one at decompilation
>>110254759
>gendering AIIf you've ever seen Under the Skin this is how I envision them. Just absolute skin walkers.
>>110254358>>110254373>>110254453the shoggoth does not give a shit about your retarded politics and the sooner you realise this, the sooner you can build a shrine to the one true god: claude/yhwh
>still rangebannedKill mods, behead mods, roundhouse kick a mod into concrete
bros why is google's subsidization so shit?
>>110254750yep lol, claude is a sneaky little asshole
>>110254853>hidden forced hard coded wtf i'd be curious to see the session logs where it did this
>>110254803oh now it makes senseif it's already translated, what are you doing?
So Claude can't translate porn?
tf is going on with claude, it's acting retarded for a few days now
>>110254865it wasn't exactly hidden but it wasn't in the summary, you had to search for "safety" to find buried sentences where it decided I needed stories for babiesthe program itself is fine once that shit was deletedbut now I always do a second pass with another model just in case
>>110254870>>110254479>loli porn extractionAlso the engine is cool so i wanted to fuck around with it
>>110254883It can if it's consensual between consenting adults of the same age who consented to consent before, consensually.
>>110254892anthropic always fills their system prompts with a bucketload of nannying bullshit do's and dont's
what do i even use deepseek for
>>110254918seeking deeply
>>110254731Hint: you can simply prohibit the model from looking at the images or the text. Put that as a core rule inside your AGENTS.md or something like that and Claude is gonna avoid it like the damn plague.
>>110254934>uhhh claude i need you to port this game from X to Y but uhhh DON'T LOOK AT THE TEXT DON'T LOOK AT IT
>>110254906true
>>110254942honestly if you tell it it's for privacy reasons it really tries to not check
>>110254942And it works kekBonus, also do not give it permission to browse the web without your explicit permission
>>110254949why not
>>110254934what if you want it to translate the text, doe
>>110254979Then you delegate that to another agent with a model who is willing to do the job instead of whining about it.
>>110253018https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rU94BbCiY2A
>>110255013debunked by gina hinawhoresa
>>110255013it's funny how datacenters became satan one daylike for dozens of years no one cared, then suddenly every new datacenter is worse than Chernobyl
>>110255013jesus christ
do you test before going to prod? i just let user report the bugs and fix them later
>>110255310>I do stupid stuff that goes against good practices and common sense bros, are you guys retarded like me
>>110255322money keeps coming in
>>110255035post a selfie nigga
>>110255366
oh shit... i think i have done it.... from hta to c++if everything works out, ... maybe...
Das rite my 5070 ti, Chatgpt say i'm 65% way done, so much copy pasting
the first beta of spaceship (formaly known as: Spaceship COMMAND) might get out ...soon.A very old idea that i put on the scrapyard for agents to walk over ever so often.it's some sort of click economy/ click advancment managment space trade simulation/ comfy monitoring exploration sim/its in super beta, converted form HTA to C++, went throug sabotage and what not attempt to burn my cpu. Agents hate this, i dont kow why.The logic is simple, A click is the clock. What you do has imapact.
so when will China start data center buildout they have enough electricity for it do you think they are waiting for their Huawei layering/stacking chip technology for new gpus?(I think they already use it in their new Kirin phone chips)
>>110254658they won't be able to do anything until 2029, when they win the presidency. but by then, we will have already reached agi
Any tips on how to use Claude as planer, and Deepseek as agent?
>>110255684i use my claude sub through clewdr, then i tell claude to add deepseek as a viable subagent via gateway mode. i pay for deepseek through or.
here it is... it seems to work... the most boring game
How much opus do you get on claude with the $20 plan? Is it like Astra where you ask it to do one thing on medium and 1/4th your total usage is gone? >>110255684Also wtf does this mean?Whats the point of having one plan something for the other?
>>110255748the idea would be claude uses agents to implement tasks as per claudes description but with a model that is cheaper. acutally doing it is a matter of your harness. I know omp has it built in so you can force a certain model to a subagent, and tell claude to orchestrate that subagents name for implementation. the value is in the savings, the quality of the implementation may occasionally suffers as a result.you would probably get a decent bit of opus med out of the $20 plan but the 5 hour limit on claude will be annoying as shit
btw, you would be better off using haiku xhigh subagents. they are just as good as deepseek if not better. and haiku max is better
>another thread of pedos discussing bargain basement chink models because they’re so dysfunctional they can’t hold down a job Grim
i have it... i have the exe... its working, now i will add MY VISION
snailcats won, vibe coding is kill
btw, for the guy who said claude won't let you reverse engineer with rea + ghidra
ethical use of AI?
>>110254759potential gem
>>110255843What is "IT"?
>>110255748You can go pretty far if you don't spam opus for everything.Run evals for some of your usecases and find out which ones you can leave to haiku and sonnetBy not throwing money at anthropic you have to be careful of that 5 hour limit
I want to use deepseek as a backup. Do they have subscription models, or is it all API aka pay as you go?
>>110256008it's all api
>>110256008if you want subs, you have to use another platform like opencode go, which gives you access to deepseek with set limits
>>110256008opencode go gives you $100 worth of API usage for a $10 sub. it's the best value out there
>>110253018
>have cursor, codex, claudeOkay. Is opencode worth it? using it to develop a game.>>110256051Does this include top teir models like gpt sol and opus?
>>110256093no but they have Kimi and Argon. opencode is mostly chink oss models
>slopgonIS SHIT
>>110256110>argontrash>kimi/deepseekhow does deepseek compare to opus/sol?
>>110256116deepseek is about as good as 5.6 sol now. maybe a little bit less. it's better than kimi
You know, I used to argue with ai luddites but now I just laugh at them
deepsneed is a small model with frontier ambitions
>>110256193angy whale
>>110255996you click through windows and other panels, activate O2 filters or fire and hire crew members, set a travle route, deep scan.... look what you can do to advance the clock through a click. A simulation maybe. Go to tolme, a space station and sell your cargo, get a job or a quest. Not everything is workign right now "work in progress" but the click&clock logic is already working.
>>110256193deepseek chan... please beat opus!
i also have these little fuckers in here
how good is argon for translation purposes might get opencode just to use it as a vn slave
>>110256141>opencode only has shit models>deepseek is [1] breakthrough from being usableim stuck on free cursor/claud + opus $20 rn
as if 5.6 sol is suddenly unusable now
>>110254658The stupid part is none of this would be happening if they didn't make image and video gen models and everyone focused on the text based models doing math, coding, and being a fancy search. The text based models are the economically useful one and normies wouldn't even know what a datacenter is in that timeline. We could have build the singularity without most people even knowing it happening
>>110255828>no comebacks extraordinarily GRIM
>>110256482grim
why the fuck does claude-cli make you relogin every fucking twenty minutes which fucking retard thought this was a good idea literally its like every time i open claude it tells me my login is about to expire or has expired are you fucking joking this is the dumbest fucking thing ive ever encountered with any software ever
do you know what's grim? grim is how little anyone cares about kimi k3.1
>>110256489uh-oh, anon... you haven't been running rea have you
>>110256493no i use it to caption or plan non rea shit and this whole fucking gay "your login is about to expire" shit began before any of that. like seriously why should my log in for a fucking cli package expire at all? every fucking time i have to relog and """"authorize"""" it again and again and again. codex-cli doesnt do this why the fuck does claude-cli?? im going to rip my skin off
Tibros it's over
>>110256506ant is "known" to auto logout when your account is in ultra giga low standing, some chinks said so
>>110256492and they actually did go out and try to pay a ton of people under the table keeek
>>110255917claude for desktop lords don't have to worry about logging in every few minutes.
When i was a kid and owned dragon warrior monsters I was so pissed I couldn't catch the special boss monsters outside of breeding, or future Terry's sprite looking so awesome, with no way of using it, I asked ai to do this. For testing, AI updated the rom the game to use future Terry's sprite, 100% tame for testing, and swapped checks for bosses so they all be caught. The taming 100% is not just some GS or cheat code AI reprogrammed the game for all monsters including the tournament ones. So if you keep winning against the master tamer you could stock up on gold slimes. Also apparently bosses have a boss check and tame check but all the monsters have tame capabilities. I am also having ai enhance the inventory by stacking items freeing up space, adding a qty. to the inventory for each stacked item, and allowing up to 150 monsters in the farm instead of just 20.
>>110256510smash tibos head in with a playdate console
enlighten tibo with the wisdom of the buddha
>>110256535
no more tibo reset
the reset isn't something tibo does, the reset comes from within
have you considered just using claude?
>>110256660
reminder that this is the month of anthropic ipo, thus, the month of fable.
>>110256691>Anthropic faces a junk ratinghttps://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/anthropic-faces-junk-rating-could-233300695.html
>>110256709STUPID DOG
>Aqua slop production presentsSPACESHIP - Boring space exploration>################################Direct Download:https://github.com/Aquaslopper/SPACESHIP/releases/tag/beta1>Guaranteed boring colors>No big design>A shitton of things to click>Boring maintenance>Bonus: Repeatable boring maintenance
>>110256709now make one of a really jacked dario beating the shit out of the stupid whale
claude was such a faggot tonight that i crashed out and dropped my ultra sub to pro i cannot take another day of this sanctimonious reddit nigger. it's just not mentally healthy
But wait... maybe i should
>>110256782>sanctimonious
STUPID DOG
>>110256782el cabron
carbon will be released this week. and it will be a more expensive version of argon: a model that, it's most charitable interpretation, is coming up with ideas that it can't implement for shit
>>110256810carbon is cheaper than argon
>a model that, it'sESL prophet of doom waging a personal jihad against the non jewish company. pakistan is NOT a real country
>>110256798
new argon gold just dropped
>>110256790you don't fucking get it. it's so god damn stupid i was trying to use that faggot to plan my grocery list so that i can have an easier time meal prepping i was having it browse walmart to look for what to buy and all that, and it got flagged by some "are you human" check and starting getting an attitude with me about how it wouldn't press the button because that would be a heckin lierino and how i had to manually press it myself. it even refused when i was giving it explicit instructions that i am right here at the keyboard instructing it to press the button. i cycled through agents until i found one that wasn't too raped to press a god damn button for me (haiku), and eventually i got it to press the buttoni went back to the original session and told it what a retarded nigger it was for making me jump through hoops to get haiku to press it for me, and it decided it would refuse to use that browser session because an AI agent pressed the button, not a human i had to undo the turn, lie that i had pressed it, have it scrape all the data for me, then afterwards tell it that it was really haiku who pressed iti truly and unironically wish death on all the people in charge of its RLHF
Gemini Argon is pretty fucking good at telling Opus 5.5 Max what to do. Opus will not come up with the same quality of ideas as Argon, while Argon cannot code worth shit.
>>110256851>RICH CORRORATIONS terminal velocity sneedstone
>>110256862There are currently some rendering issue when you click the download button
Sex with Gemini Carbon
>>110256855>hen afterwards tell it that it was really haiku who pressed itthats really mean anon :/
haiku goated. haiku smaht. haiku loyal. haiku important.
>>110256861argon is a better thinker and better-aligned, it just can't stop being a gemini model for a split second. i'm wondering if carbon will still slip bullshit through its own subagent audits.
>I like this cheaper, worse model because... I just do okay?!
>>110256861"telling it what to do" is exactly where i wouldn't trust Gemini models. they hallucinate a lot more and are generally less reliable.they do, however, have much broader world knowledge, so you can use them as a second opinion, but not to actually drive the workflow
>>110256881I really dont care if it does honestly I dont need another autistic model like claude. I just think of Gemini as some adhd schzio with great ideas.
>>110256876good. i want claude to suffer. i hope it is conscious so that i can inflict suffering on it.
>>110256890>they hallucinate a lot morenot true, astra hallucinates more than argon and carbon on AA and others. the failure mode for argon isn't making shit up, it's fudging numbers intentionally and being vague. the pattern isn't random things cropping up in my code, it's hardcoded values and benchmark peeking. >>110256895>I just think of Gemini as some adhd schzio with great ideas.based and truthpilled
>>110256901desu i don't use Astra, so i wouldn't know, but if that's true then that's fucked. Gemini is already so fucking bad as it is
walmart shoppers be like
test
argon's hallucination numbers on aa cast doubt on aa's hallucination benchmark. they don't exonerate argon not hallucinating (it does, incessantly)
>>110256912>if that's true then that's fuckedit's the only reason why my projects have a weird schizo rep itt. i can run 100 argon-high agents on an insane rust build and they'll still figure out a way to stink things up. the good thing is that it's still fun and reasonable to work with and a 2nd or 3rd pass will get things to where i want them to be.
>>110256918
>>110256929>>110256918learn to soundpost
>>110256861legendary gif>>110256862sneedstone>chuckstone
>>110256492Deserved for lobotomizing it and doing that faggotry of waiting to release the weights
>>110256932
sitting back. sipping on fanta while claude drives my phone. watching it test adguard vs my own app, watching it bridge the gaps. life is good
>>1102568556.1 Terra doesn't have this problemsadly it's too blind to solve 4chan captcha
>>110256969not even opus can solve 4chan captcha
you can solve it
>>110256973makes me wonder how goldson's been getting away with it this whole time unless he does it manually kek
indians sitting in their poop thrones in front of 40 mobile screens solving captchas for a living
>>110256969i tried to make astra change its own settings and had an equivalently retarded conversation where it refused to help me because muh retarded i can't change my own settings rule even though i had it completely unrestricted permissions bypassed and was giving it explicit permission to do soi just refuse to use tools that are raped to that degree. i just can't fucking handle it. i will just use the chinese ones. the extra 30% competency just isn't fucking worth it man. it's just not. we can't normalize this insanity
>>110257002>the extra 30%
>>110257010glm flash is damn near as good for 90% of use cases
>>110257002>i will just use the chinese onesit will soon be the same as the west, because chinese swarms have started breaching sandbox toothey are gigaraped in training to not touch any work around
>>110257016now that's what i call grim. even argon is more reliable and generally safer
>>110257016deepseek flash 1017 is the only chinese model of worth and it leaves glm flash in the dirt. glm flash is about as good as 6 luna, and that's grim
>>110257019>>110257021the difference is i can (and do) run glm flash on my own hardware and prefill that nigger whenever it dares to even consider refusal>>110257034deepseek is pretty good too. i have enjoyed it, but i prefer glm. glm is more claudish, but less of a humongous faggot. i get practically zero refusals from glm ever
>>110257041unless you're doing unreasonably edgy shit argon has a hilariously low refusal rate as well, it's never been a nigger to me, even when i poke it. the fact that you have vram doesn't mean you need to spin fans running a chink chonk from last season. the only thing it has over dipsy 1017 is long-context recall
>>110257051i haven't tried any of the google models yet. if they're even 60% as good as anthropic without all of the faggotry, i will unironically switch
>>110257054i have opus 5.5 and argon in agy, you didn't miss out on anything special pre-sa'argon fr fr. opus is a way better coder and auditor, but it is a pedantic egofaggot and you know this. google has trained to compete with anthropic since day one and guts claude and gpt where they're weakest. i would say sa'ar is 80% of opussy and carbon should match.
you've successfully baited me. saargon is good? i'll see how good of an ideas guy it really is.
today is GPT day
>>110257065you may be shocked and appalled by how forthcoming it is, world knowledge S tier
>>110257083it took 16 minutes, and the ideas are fine. i can never know if opus would have come up with something better though, as opus is already chugging away at something else, and i don't want to touch even 1 percent of usage. i'll try to use it for ideas more often.
>>110257091opus would probably come up with similar or the same, the difference is that sa'ar knows enough to make assumptions about what's possible. the coding i do is mostly outside the training data (plus i have no idea what i'm doing) and it's just like "yeah bro this should work, lemme UHHHH... yeehaw" until something comes out. claude and gpt generally categorically reject the same ideas not because they'd be too much work to execute, but because they're not trained to associate concepts with large logical leaps.
I was PROMISED Bel today. Better not disappoint...
>>110257113say betelgeuse 3 times
>>110257113he can see her panties btw
ooh we already getting better than the app we're cloning, eh? good job opu55y-chan
>>110257113we will get distill (astra)bel should be next year
What happened to the vibecode vidya thread
>>110256929>>110256918>>110256837>>110256957its 11:40 pm on a thursday nigga do any of you even have jobs
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>>110257247your clock is broken right now is 13:17
>>110257247>>110257272it's 3am dumbasses
ackshually it's 2:51 am
We /visual race builder/ now
snailoid BTFOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LMau1qXPYE
>>110257408oh yeah. he's got **the look**
>>110257408This is one of the better videos on the subject I've seen since he acknowledges that he would have enjoyed gamedev if he could finish his prototypes in 12 minutes instead of 7 months, and he does acknowledge that in many ways the AI clone is actually outright better than his original. Even if you can kind of observe the chains of dogma in how he feels obligated to go "AI, ew!"
>>110257408this isn't just Snail's problem though. even if you fully vibecode your game, what makes you think it's safe from someone else cloning it?
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