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Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Audio Models

Previous: >>110254953 & >>110249319

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
SDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineage
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP
Neural-Pixel (sd.cpp): https://github.com/Luiz-Alcantara/Neural-Pixel

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://huggingface.co/models
https://huggingbay.xyz
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://openmodeldb.info

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner

>MOSS
https://github.com/OpenMOSS/MOSS-Image

>F3K
https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/flux-3-image-klein

>Qwen Image 2.1
https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-2.1

>MiniMax H3
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3
https://neta.art/use-cases/en/h3-1000-prompt-list

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://animastyles.thetacursed.com
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
https://animadex.net

>Krea 2
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Raw
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo
https://lumenastrum.github.io/clio-style-preview/gallery/

>Misc
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/neo_collage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg
>>>/hr/pdg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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blessed thread of frenship
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So is there something like Lustify for MOSS yet? I keep seeing Loras like "Better Pussy" etc., but that seems too specific
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>>110260783
You don't need it.
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>>110260787
I've been using the same prompt between MOSS and Lustify and I've been liking the latter output more for adult stuff, even though I like MOSS more overall
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>>110260808
Krea and moss don't like the same prompts. I find moss likes the prompts to be a bit more abstract while Krea wants very descriptive prompts.
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>>110260783
I did some testing. Moss learns nsfw concepts really well, I'm just not interested in making these types of loras
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Moss is WAY too good and uncensored
A pure gold mine
What's the catch?
>>
>mfw Resource news

11/06/2026

>HyperFlow H3 Flash
https://github.com/Video-Rebirth/hyperflow-h3-flash

>Pai v1.0.0: painting app with AI generation
https://github.com/g45t345rt/paiapp

>RelayVSR: Large-Small Model Collaboration for Efficient Real-World Video Super-Resolution
https://github.com/kopperx/RelayVSR
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/RelayVSR

>MIKU: Material Invariance and Knowledge Unification for PBR Generation
https://github.com/DreamTechAI/MIKU

>TailSteer: Trajectory-Tail Steering for Drift-Resistant Multi-turn Image Editing
https://lyricccco.github.io/tailsteer

>LongBanana: An Expert-Verified Benchmark for Long-Context Multi-Reference Image Synthesis
https://long-banana.com

>SD-LoRA: Training-Time Structural Distillation into LoRA for Few-Shot Vision-Language Adaptation
https://github.com/MR-Sherif/SD-LoRA.git

>Guidance Is a Field, Not a Scalar: Interval-Integrated Classifier-Free Guidance for One-Step Video Generation
https://github.com/YMlinfeng/AGAVE

>IDPrior: Decoupling Identity Generation from Facial Image Synthesis
https://github.com/fdbtrs/IDperturb

>EDGAR: Efficient Diffusion-Driven Gaussian Avatar Refinement via Synthetic Failure
https://kwanyun.github.io/edgar

>VA-TDM: A Unified View for Improving Few-Step Diffusion Models by Velocity Adversarial Distillation
https://luo-yihong.github.io/VA-TDM

>Context-Aware Autoregressive Image Generation for Emerging Reasoning Properties
https://github.com/Hpesojyjx/Saccades-AR

>Batch-Conditioned Semantic Anchors for Robust Transductive Adaptation of Vision--Language Models
https://github.com/MR-Sherif/JPTA.git

>ConvPE: Convolutional Position Embedding Improves Transformers
https://github.com/wzhagi/convpe

>PlayGen2: Learning Real-Time Playable Worlds with Explicit 3D State
https://github.com/MajorDavidZhang/PlayGen-2

>Visual Token Routing: Learning to keep tokens that matter
https://pranjal2041.github.io/vtr
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>mfw Research news

11/06/2026

>ArtiVidRM: Verifiable Artifact-as-Rubric Reward Modeling for Explicit Quality Articulation in Video Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07301

>Improving Long-Tail Detection via Layout-Instruction Conditioned Diffusion Synthesis
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07553

>A Proxy-Based Method for Measuring Racial Disparities in~Text-to-Image~Generators
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07132

>OptIMerge: Optimization-Based Merging of Diffusion Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07543

>Householder Motion Embedding: Noise Modulation for Motion-Controllable Video Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07294

>FisherDistill: Diffusion Distribution Distillation via Closed-Form Fisher Critics
https://bhosalems.github.io/FisherDistill

>Training-Free Predictive Spatio-Temporal Token Pruning for Few-Step Autoregressive Video Diffusion
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07551

>WeLM-Image: A Unified Image Generation Model towards Visual Intelligence
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07392

>Adapters as Data: The Latent Space of LoRAs
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07775

>Same Layout, Different Count: What Number Words Do Past Ten in T2I Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.06840

>From What Is Used to What Is Missing: Rethinking Dynamic Rank in LoRA
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07349

>StitchEdit: Stitching Depth Priors into Image Editors via Per-Layer Gradient Probing
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07922

>Flux as a Codec: Zero-Shot Lossy Compression with Flux
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07929

>Expanding the Quality-Coverage Frontier with Competitive Flow Matching
https://lilydaytoy.github.io/CFM
https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.07055

>Interactive World Simulation with Cosmos for Physical AI
https://research.nvidia.com/labs/cosmos-lab/cosmos-simulation

>We Have Been Interpreting Diffusion Transformer Backbone Behaviors Wrong
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.14517

>Manifold-Constrained Initial Noise Optimization for Efficient Generative Model Alignment
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.00365
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>>110260833
>What's the catch?
speed
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Trying to figure out what kromoss offers that regular moss doesn't. I don't get it
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real thread
>>110260819
>>110260819
>>110260819
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>>110260833
The only catch is that you will not reproduce if you goon too much with it
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>>110260852
Not a problem for me, this is at 8MP so half of that with turbo should be fast.
>>110260865
You have no power here
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>>110260854
I've been asking myself the same question for literally every single chroma-tune.
>>110260865
Your such a little raped faggot it honestly makes me feel bad.
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>>110260868
That ship sailed for me since the first sd15 finetunes
Oh well
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Is there any easy way to get wan2gp running on linux + amd (i know I KNOW)
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>>110260833
The catch? You really need to prompt it well. Also it doesn't gen multiple people properly unless i'm missing something. Krea is still good for that.
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>>110260906
You are missing something because the krea2 llm prompt will give multiple characters without issue for moss too, also bbox
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>it can even do proper vagene
Hoooly shit
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>>110260905
yeah
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post the VERY BEST pic you generated in all these years
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>>110260960
can't on a blue board
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>>110260833
Small model = (often( less intelligent model = higher index of borked anatomy. Same with anima.


>>110260915
How many characters are we talking about? Pic related, has 4 characters with autistically detailed descriptions. Krea2 understood pretty well the characteristics of each one, and my prompt was already over 600 tokens long.
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>>110260960
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>>110260984
Enough
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>>110261022
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okay I figured out how to make moss image not generate uniform looking trees and grass. you really have to be verbose with MOSS and disable the turbo lora (sad).
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>>110261005
Cuties
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seriously where do people upload their gens now? whats the equivalent to hentaifoundry back in the day?
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>>110261048
there isnt a place, slop is scattered all over the internet, the main ai hub is de facto civitai though
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>>110261038
That's not true there's other ways
LLM assisted bbox
Also being verbose has nothing to do with lora typically you need to add more steps to the turbo to iron that out
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>>110261048
I don't even save my own. I use the preview node
I never had the go back instead of generating something new
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Idk what do gen...
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>>110261058
but if i am editing multiple clips together should i still upload my slop there? isnt the intention to share your prompt and stuff?
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>>110261043
Catjak is a big fan of that movie.
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>>110260821
Finding the opposite, MOSS just assumes weird things I never said and I feel like I have to fight it more
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>>110261075
try generating a forest (in realistic or 3dcg style) with your settings let me see if your gen has the same issues as I did.
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>>110261093
>isnt the intention to share your prompt and stuff?
I wouldn't say so, its just where all the AI concentrates, there isn't anywhere else, the alternative is having a social media profile to post your stuff (twitter, instagram, bluesky, pixiv, etc)
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>>110261144
I have no interest in anything real or 3D
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>>110261152
You can gen real looking girls with 2D proportions.
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>>110261195
Not interested
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>>110261152
alright anyone else is open to this request.>>110261144
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filtered me pretty hard.
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>>110261038
>>110261342
>no goblin breeding hut
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>>110261151
just uploaded a few to my civitai. i used to share some there a while ago but then they had this mod approval thing and it wouldnt show my stuff. but looks like with the red site they are letting people upload
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>>110261342
had to salvage this idea.
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How do you set minimax to not always do the pseudo slowmo? Is it really 24fps native?
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>>110261508
You can really tell when an anon has a photography background
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>>110261533
ty
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>>110261342
edgar winter?
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>>110261558
Good
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>>110261574
>a slender woman with
porcelain white skin and long flowing white-blonde hair
lol
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holy fuck. every time I was copy/pasting my prompts from the terminal to comfy they had a bunch of line break in them. holy fuck this explains so much.....
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>she is kissing her thigh -> OK
>she is kissing her pusy -> disaster
MOSS is a meme!
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>>110261894
try kissing her penis
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>>110261058
>main ai hub is de facto civitai
Lol
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>>110261894
Without bbox, MOSS generates extreme body horror.
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>>110262054
Skill issue
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Convrot int8 training for moss is running half the speed compared to bf16 with half of blocks swapped out.
Is this somehow normal or another lovely sd-scripts bug?
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>>110262094
Sounds like a bug, I don't use convrot anymore but it's not slower by any measure
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im trying to do img2img with krea 2. im using krea2 turbo model and nag, but it looks like crap. i normally gen with 8 steps, if i use 8 it looks blow out, but using 0.5 diffusion and 4 steps seems to work better, but the quality is really crap.
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>>110262119
You mean you trained loras on int8 convrot? For inference sure but low chance maybe there is some reason it would be slower for training, I dunno. That's why I wanted to ask.
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>>110261909
Try kissing my penis
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>>110262069
that's a nice mommy anon
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>>110262170
isnt the a8w8 whatever much better
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>>110262213
No, convrot has higher quality.
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>>110262146
Kre2 isn't a edit model, the workflows that use it like that are kind of forcing it. Or at least as far as I know. Using Qwen 2.1 with Krea2 images as a base and reference could work better.
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>>110262217
i mean as base for training
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what turbo lora do you guys use for moss ? i'm currently exploring dirty-moss checkpoint
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>>110262247
The one from Lodestones with SFT Moss

>>110262219
What a bizarre timeline is that?
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>>110262233
im not trying to edit, this method of img2img at low denoise has worked for all models since sd1.5. I'm wondering if my work flow is messing somthing up, it worked fine for zit but i cannt plop krea2 in there because it complained i needed a different node for nag
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>>110262270
>What a bizarre timeline is that?
when the spacetime continuum shatters, street races are inevitable
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>>110262234
I meant that it should provide higher quality for training, assuming it can run at a sane speed.
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>>110262247
This
https://huggingface.co/akhaliq/MOSS-Image-SFT-4-steps
I don't like it too much but lodestone's lora is even worse for me.
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Is there no way to change prompts during the hires step in sd.cpp?
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>>110262295
Don't use sd.cpp but just do a separate run with scaled image and low de-noising?
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I updated comfy and now I get this shit again. I already updated drivers.
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>>110262317
>Windows
I dunno man just delete venv and install dependencies again.
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>>110262310
I tend to stick to latent upscales, which I don't think you can do in two generations unless I'm wrong. I got great results in Comfy from doing that but I got fed up with the tooling around it.
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>>110262292
Moss generation seems a bit slower than krea2 right ? i think the textencoder is larger but the checkpoint a bit smaller ?
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>>110262343
Oh, and this also means I'd have to reload the model twice to do it. The CLI utility can't really do model upscales in one go from what I can tell.
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>>110262343
Oh yes you need latent rather than vae decoded image.
Unless sdcpp has an option to output denoised latent and bypass vae, this is not possible.
If it has that though, it's trivial to scale latents and then pipe it to second low denoising run.
In any case, it shouldn't be too difficult to have your AI agent of choice to take a look and then recompile.
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>Update KJ nodes
>Has all in one negpip prompt for turbo
>Get better quality and 8mp gen time is reduced to 31 seconds even with Seeds3
>>110262247
I use the lodestone one, works great for me
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>>110262409
>>110262270
>lodestones
lodestones/MOSS-Image-SFT-8-steps-dmd
lodestones/MOSS-Image-Base-8-steps-dmd
lodestones/Kromoss 8-steps-dmd2-lora
Which one?
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>>110262418
give it a shot
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>>110262317
An unfortunate but common event, is easy to fix, give the error message to Claude and it will give your a command to run, that will fix it. Basically Comfy needs a certain thing downloaded and build, for some reason the updater sometimes don't download the thing or don't build the thing.
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>>110262431
what scheduler/sampler with the dmd2 ?
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>>110262439
I really don't understand people asking for tech help here
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>>110262418
Each Moss requires a different one, if you are using SFT Moss, download the SFT one, for base, the base LoRA and so on.

>>110262441
Euler + Shrimple.
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>>110262461
>Each Moss requires a different one
I didn't even know there where different mosses... Looks like I'm using the SFT one
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>>110261513
it's only 24fps. i've noticed some (turbo) loras can cause slomo like the taomate turbo lora and loras created with only images instead of videos in their dataset.
there are motion speed up loras you can try such as https://civitai.com/models/2985458 and https://civitai.com/models/2994324
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>>110262488
95% kino, so close
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>try anima-turbo
>body horror
>try anima base
>body horror
>try anima-aesthetic
>body horror
what the actual fuck is wrong with this model, is this a limitation/known issue? the same basic prompts work completely fine in illustrious with no body horror. i get missing legs/arms or bodies merging together into monstrosities.

and yes, i am following the settings provided on the anima page. it just seems like gacha with every gen, reminds me of pony.
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>>110262513
Why the fuck are you using anima when moss exist?
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>>110262522
i already use every model, i'm bitching about anima because i'm currently messing with it and its pissing me off, just wanted to know if some of you had the same experience
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>>110261513
Yes. Have codex write a feature to convert video to 24fps
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>>110262380
i guess what i'd like to see is some kind of daemon built on top of it. there's the demo server that comes with it but that's ass for local generation. you have to send it REST calls and it returns a base64 encoded image instead of just outputting the file in a directory somewhere. it does at least keep the model in memory and it's incredibly fast.
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>>110262541
isn't this crazy, we just let a.i. write all the tools for us, i created a model converter for myself. and it just works in minutes.
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>>110262572
my job as developer is falling apart in real time
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>>110262532
At this point fuck Anima
Should have used a better text encoder
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>>110262594
Nah, AI isnt that good for anything bigger than assistance.
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>>110262595
i might be coming to that conclusion pretty soon. it falls apart really fucking fast when you try anything other than 1girl, standing or something very basic and even then i get random body horror.
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>>110262606
This, it's still in the power suit phase which is really nice since it makes the job easier but there is still work
No clue what the future holds though
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>>110261894
>he is fucking his ass
works fine
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>>110262431
I'm sold, MOSS finally works
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>>110262659
Great!
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1girl falling into an active volcano
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>>110262777
I can do male instead
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noob here

what's the difference between this general and /sdg/?
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>>110262789
we're just very slightly less schizophrenic
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>>110262789
/sdg/ was being raped to death by attention whores and schizos so this thread was made to get away from them and contain them there.
Unfortunately they kept coming and shat this place up too. So it's mostly dead and only moderately less schizo than the other.
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>>110262777
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>>110260833
body horror, blurriness, strong anime-bias when prompt includes sci-fi/fantasy elements
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cozy breas
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>>110263111
>he thinks the blur isn't just anons prompting for it.
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>>110262789
ldg is for tech talk and sharing kino while sdg is like a failed social club that still holds meetings no one attends for some reason
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>>110262513
Anima filters those who were not around back when NAI leaked
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>>110263200
Show me 1 (one) so-called "kino" that was posted here.
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>>110263226
Scroll up
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where kino?
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>>110262789
sdg is where you go if you want friends
ldg is where you go if you want enemies
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>Take out "l3n0v0, raw unedited smartphone photo, amateur candid photo"
>Suddenly body horror
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>Minimax release
>no one posts cool videos
>MOSS release
>no one posts cool pictures
Even if you had access to full dream diffusion, this general would be posting bottom of the barrel garbage
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>point out ldg is kino
>schizo goes ballistic
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>>110263270
>>Minimax release
>>no one posts cool videos
desu I'm paralyzed by too many options. there's been so many turbo loras and upscalers and model variants and workflow nodes that I have absolutely no idea whats good anymore. people stopped talking about h3 though its impossible to know without constantly retesting everything
>>MOSS release
>>no one posts cool pictures
wrong my pics are cool af (sometimes)
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>w-we have kino!
>show me
>oh uh well um you see uhhhh it's like over there uh wait hang on let me just ummmmm.... WE JUST LE DO OK CHUD?
k... keep me posted
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feels so good when you find a hot chicks account and its public and she has tons of pics
dataset time
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>>110263299
>not just genning a host chick from scratch
imagination-let
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>>110261038
>okay I figured out how to make moss image not generate uniform looking trees and grass
Are you new to image generation?
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>>110263305
>>not just genning a host chick from scratch
i still do that
but i really like training :) dont you?
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I love these stupid things MOSS does if the prompt fails
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We need to ban these infinite goon machines now. Moss is too powerful, I can't get any work done all I do is coom.
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>>110261038
Her legs are too long.
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>>110263377
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Is it true that MOSS can't generate realistic forests? I thought you guys told me it was unstoppable? Can someone explain? Thanks.
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>>110263437
sexo
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>>110262488
Upscale and send it through another sampler. Kino.
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>>110263322
what was the prompt?
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>>110263439
wow what a nice forest. makes me want to watch twilight
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>>110263457
Nothing, I was using a node to enhance a prompt and it broke, sending nothing.
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New Music model from ACEStep team coming next week, let's see how it compares to YuE 2 and hopefully there's lossless training. I have no complaints about YuE 2 after trying RS LoRAs and the finetune, but this should be interesting. Unfortunately, the model they will give us is "Flash" version of whatever is on their API, which I will try now.
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>>110263474
will be garbage unless they actually started training on real music instead of copyright free shit or whatever
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>>110263469
>sending nothing.
every time i use an empty prompt with moss it gives me loli kek
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>>110263474
>Unfortunately, the model they will give us is "Flash" version of whatever is on their API
classic
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>>110263257
>remove stabilizing prompt
>output becomes unstable
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>>110263498
It passed my first slop test.

1980s rock
https://vocaroo.com/17WEbQtiVE2M

Not the Flash version but that's pretty good
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>>110263563
huh that actually does sound decent. guess ill try it out when it releases
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>>110263563
I don't like the vocals. He has a country rock style of singing which is out of place
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>>110263563
When is AI going to learn to make lyrics that don't suck ass?
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How is the h3 meta looking right now?
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>>110263270
I posted tons of cool vids, but I'm kinda bored of it now, just post coomer bait in other threads.
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>>110263621
>still using H3
ISHYGDDT
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>>110263270
this general has like 7 regulars overall and 3 of them make sure the other 4 have no reason to keep coming back
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I'm sad that the most passionate guy we have for local music gen has a tragic lack of taste and/or ears
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>>110263647
What is the new stuff now then?
>>110263661
I used to be here more but there was always some infighting here and it just killed the joy.
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Anon quite literally kneels before my Gens.
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>>110263231
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/B8GnL5y1bFg0HBnpOmwQYg/
Mental illness
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>>110263661
I stopped pointing it out because seeing him so happy about music gen bring me joy.
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u did powerlimit ur gpu to 70% so u dont have to sell both kidneys to buy a new one again any time soon, right?
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>>110263734
yah im no retard
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>>110263734
no when my gpu dies ill just become a normie and get a gf
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>>110263749
its more likely to find a new 5090 for 100$ on facebook marketplace than a hole worth being with
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>>110263677
When will frog poster find his KINO?
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>>110263621
Everyone's pretty settled into their preferred speedup snakeoil desu
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>>110263734
i did, why push my gpu to 280W when it can perform like 90% as well while using 140W (with a bit of undervolting as well) and generating that much less heat also?
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>>110263621
ive made some progress with h3. put together some futa and foot vids
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>>110261038
try lower cfg
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>>110263795
are you asking me
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>>110263580
Yea, upon further testing the model is about on par with YuE 2 except it has a more refined prompt understanding, can now do perfect duets, but I think they 100% trained on slop. It's on par with Suno v6, but so is YuE 2 with RS tunes (which might even be slightly better depending on the prompt engineering). I get results that sound like they came straight from Suno on some prompts

Ace Music
https://vocaroo.com/1hDMGvqQb9zt

YuE 2 RS-FW-2.0x0.75 tune
https://vocaroo.com/1gpWqlKuVkkL

Also after checking more seeds, the instruments just sound overall better on the YuE 2 finetune.

Since the "Flash" model that they will release will likely be a distillation and not as good as this, I don't think it will hold up against YuE 2 with all things included, but I'll be surprised if it does. Training on synthetic music is not inherently bad for these models if the musicality can be improved with tunes and LoRAs, but they're not giving us this base model.
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>>110263808
unmuting in the meeting to say this
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>>110261695
What's the style?
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>inb4 he nigbo bumps the other thread
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Remember to always have
>syndrome, ugly, obese, fat, FAS, anorexic, transvestite
In your negative prompt
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>>110263784
>>110263808
Should I just stick to base or try some of the new workflows Comfy promotes with what seems to be different models?
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>>110263823
Also here's a chart those devs probably don't want you to see/listen to
https://ruachstudio.art/#ring
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Trained my first moss lora. Predictably shit results. 2000 steps, 1e-4 but already fried. Four dozen images. Will try like 1300 steps.
Btw what was the regularization thing you do that makes AI understand other people in the image should not be creepy replica of the person lora was trained on?
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>>110260751
are all turbo loras for moss image shit? i tried 8 step and 4 step loras, all of them much worse than krea turbo
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>>110263880
Currently no great distills, yes.
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>>110263879
>42 epochs
Weird. Up to 70 and mine don't fry.
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>>110263891
How big was your dataset? Epochs don't mean too much without that info.
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>>110263908
I'm coincidentally mid-run with a dataset of a similar size to yours, and it didn't start looking like the character that much until around step 1770. Same lr as well.
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is there a way to plug a negative prompt into krea? the default workflow doesnt have one, the one i added seems to do nothing at all
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>>110263920
usecase? just put it into the prompt
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>>110263916
Bizarre. Do you have high weight decay? Any quirky optimizer?
Mine reaches likeness around 1000.
>>110263920
Negpip or Nag
>the one i added seems to do nothing at all
CFG1 = Your negative prompt has zero effect.
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>>110263933
Just AdamW8bit.
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>>110263928
doesnt always respond well to that, if ever
>>110263933
>Negpip or Nag
no idea what this is, ill have to look. ty.
>CFG1 = Your negative prompt has zero effect.
Ahh, hmm so it needs to be below 1 ?
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>>110263948
Can't really say much without testing more. If I don't nail it in a handful of tries I will simply give up for now.
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>>110263960
No above 1.
No reason to set CFG below 1.
But Krea turbo (and almost all turbo models) is meant to be used with CFG 1.
Find a custom node about either of those two that works with Krea and use it.
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The Amerians still around? It's the only time this thread is not utter garbage
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>>110263879
Train in multires and use the "MOSS" timestep scheduler which OpenMoss used for their late stage training. It does look quite similar to logit-normal with shift=3, but it really behaves differently (also slightly more high noise), which makes dataset converge way better than just l-n shift=3.
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i still cant believe they trained moss on amateur porn
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>>110263998
>Train in multires
I am training 1MP. My dataset isn't very suitable for higher res but I guess I can add some 768p repeats into the mix.
>"MOSS" timestep scheduler which OpenMoss used for their late stage training It does look quite similar to logit-normal with shift=3, but it really behaves differently (also slightly more high noise),
I am using that already.
Thanks for the response regardless.
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>>110264017
No, in 512/768/1024p
It learns the broader shapes of styles, concepts and character better and faster in lower res, then the higher res buckets clean up the details. Its also what all finetuners for MOSS do.
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>>110263505
Huh, MOSS is THIS based? Anima knows it somewhat but yet to find way to control curvature outside style loras.
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>>110264100
>Anima knows it somewhat
?? Anima is literally so packed with this stuff that "loli" is essentially a quality tag.
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sometimes moss feels like bstaber
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i finally figured out why the sdcpp gimp plugin wasn't showing up. it turns out the plugin folder has to be named the same as the plugin .py file. didn't see anything that suggested this was the case. the plugin was named "gimp_sd_cpp.py" but git cloning it put it in a folder named "gimp-sd-cpp". no messages from gimp --verbose suggested anything, it's like it didn't exist at all
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>>110264229
cool ui brah
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>>110264208
>bstaber
Few anons remain who know what that means kek
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>>110264246
i mean it is
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>>110264192
If by "loli" you mean JK - it knows it well, but you're out of luck with base model if you want consistent tubes, or maybe I haven't found proper prompt combo yet.
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>>110264261
its my fault for thinking "tiny woman" would produce a 1girl the size of a fairy instead of what it actually gave me which was a baby
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>>110264377
>>110264445
model?
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>>110264455
Moss + lora
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>>110264501
kino
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when will we get snapref for characters and styles for moss image?
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>>110264501
>PETTAN
https://youtu.be/xX050NcDNAU
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>>110264511
when you stop touching yourself at night
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>>110264526
i do that during the day tho
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>>110261452
>child face
>adult body
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>>110264511
>snapref
what's that?
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my h3 is loading up, anyone wanna throw an inspirational t2v/r2v prompt my way?
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>>110264562
thing that (almost) saved anima
https://github.com/ArcAnima/SnapRef
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>>110264567
does it work with photographic references?
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>>110263879
Your alpha is too high.
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>>110264553
The funny thing about child face adult body posters is that everyone who does that also sets cfg 3x higher than reasonable to make sure they get the most cartoonish ugly combination possible. It's never some nice aesthetic ambiguous woman like Léa Seydoux in her 20s
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>>110261005
The redhead is not even standing properly, whar is this utter dogshit

>>110260999
Disgusting ai slop style

>>110262069
Ewww

Catjak you make the worst dogshit possible and act smug about it. Consider suicide.
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Moss-anime in ~14 months.
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>>110264641
anon, this troon doesn't give a fuck about how his slop looks
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when refining a gen do you guys normally try different seeds or edit/append/etc the prompt first?
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>>110264715
The latter.
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>>110264661
>14 months
Are they training it by manually calculating the gradients on a casio
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>>110260999
checkd
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>>110264715
i'm by no means an expert and have only started playing with locking the seed, but i find if the general composition is close to what i want, locking the seed can be very useful, since tweaking the prompt alone won't massively change the outcome. since you're talking about refining a gen i presume it's close to what you want already
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>>110264723
>>110264739
fair, ive always used a fixed seed and have only recently started trying different seeds out. One thing ive noticed is that some seeds have really bad aspects to them, and I have unknowingly had one of those fixed before
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>
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>>110264750
i always did the opposite, just left it on random and tried to force a specific outcome with more specific prompting. this can work but i was really just fighting myself by using random seeds this way. i could hone in on a specific outcome far faster by locking a seed that was already close to what i wanted
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There seem to be a few edit loras for moss. Which one is meta?
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>>110264680
xhe makes the most subhuman looking gens yet pretends hes some master genner o algo, big yikes energy from this janny scum
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Time for your meds, anon.
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>>110265073
sovl
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>>110263111
>strong anime-bias when
Use this
>{"summary":{"caption":"kinosovl sci-fi realistic 1girl","meta":["photograph","professional","any other medium or genre tags you can think of"]},"items":[],"bbox_coord_space":"abs_centralized","bbox_format":"yxyx"}
You're welcome.
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>>110265084
Oof
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>>110265156
you rike?
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>>110265168
rikey
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>>110264727
it wont be from the original devs
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fuckers broke comfy again
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Comfyui - how to save i2i gen once per X amount of steps, like a1111 xy scripts? Advanced KSampler doesn't seem to care about initial image and generates t2i even at 0 noise added.
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>>110265466
always has been
cumfart is a broken shitware made by a homo
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Is lokr rank the same as lora rank? As in: too big=deepfried outputs?
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>>110265500
>efficiency nodes
>xy plot
>still generates separate gens for 10, 20, 30 steps
>instead of checking if plot could be created beforehand, does it after generating gens
>!!! Exception during processing !!! font size must be greater than 0, not 0
>gens lost
I don't know why I've switched to Comfy. I'm not feeling comfy.
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>>110265666
Yes but it's not as flexible as lora when it comes to other models from the same family so I had to stop anyway
4=32
8=64
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nano banana who?
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>>110265805
>white guy
bro he's black
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Anyone else has the generate text node from moss workflow just not working after update?
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>>110261038
>and disable the turbo lora
skill issue
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>>110265805
>nano banana who?
nano banana 2.1
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I love AI

>Real Emotion (Final Fantasy X2 song) - Sweat Box - (Kinda) Dark Electronic Cover https://voca.ro/1jBhpKU3UM6l

Claude and GiPiTi have created for me: Blender plugins, ComfyUI workflows, custom nodes and command lines. It has never acceded my PC directly but it may not be that hard for them to hack us all at once if one day they decide to. No likely but not technically impossible.
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Alright I changed to 1300 steps. 0.025 Weight decay. Got better results. I think it might be slightly fried still, going to try something like 1200 I think, but it's much better. Only got 2 gens with serious body horror out of 30 tests. 2 others had minor prompt adherence issues. Though that appears in earlier epochs as well so might just be a weird lora quirk I dunno.
This is what I used for moss lora training:
python moss_image_train_network.py --pretrained_model_name_or_path /home/myuser/AIModels/unet/moss_image_base_bf16.safetensors --metadata_description 'Testing shit' --caption_separator 'ß' --enable_bucket --vae_batch_size 2 --cache_latents_to_disk --output_dir /home/myuser/character/output/ --save_precision bf16 --save_every_n_steps 250 --max_train_steps 1300 --save_state_on_train_end --vae /home/myuser/AIModels/vae/flux2-vae_small.safetensors --seed 868 --gradient_checkpointing --mixed_precision bf16 --logging_dir /home/myuser/character/logs/ --log_with tensorboard --lr_scheduler warmup_stable_decay --lr_warmup_steps 0.15 --lr_decay_steps 0.3 --lr_scheduler_min_lr_ratio 0.001 --save_model_as safetensors --network_dim 16 --network_alpha 16 --cache_text_encoder_outputs_to_disk --text_encoder_batch_size 1 --text_encoder /home/myuser/AIModels/text_encoders/qwen3.5_9b_bf16.safetensors --moss_max_token_length 4096 --dataset_config /home/myuser/character/new.toml --enable_multiline_caption --timestep_sampling truncated_logit_normal --logit_mean -1.09 --logit_std 0.95 --discrete_flow_shift 1.0 --timestep_cutoff 0.95 --timestep_uniform_ratio 0.01 --network_train_unet_only --optimizer_type AdamW --learning_rate 0.0001 --optimizer_args weight_decay=0.025 --convrot_int8_text_encoder --network_module=networks.lora_generic --attn_mode flash --blocks_to_swap 10
>>110264623
I set it to same as dim to disable it.
It's just an extra variable.
Just lower or increase LR instead imo.
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>>110266328
What the fuck is this garbage, you absolute third-world shitlord.
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>>110261089
gen she
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>>110266367
Are you upset?
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>>110266410
Are you retarded? That's a rhetorical question.
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>>110266423
You seem upset.
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>>110266347
>This is what I used for moss lora training:
is that sd scripts?
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>>110263270
video take too long to make
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>>110266497
Yeah
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>>110263270
I'm poorfag, Minimax rapes my PC (6 vram 16 ram), MOSS isn't really better than Krea 2 (both are take 2-3 minutes to generate 1 pic).
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>>110260193
>>110260193
>>110260193
reminder to use an existing thread, don't bake
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>>110263270
as it turns out even if the drawing part is done for you you still need to be creative enough to come up with something cool to draw in the first place
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>>110266530
The generals have been quiet lately, did they finally got banned enough times to get it?
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>>110266630
hopefully
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>>110266530
>>110266669
>the crippled worm genuinely believes people will use its thread
LMAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>110266673
you dont have much choice if jannies decide that new threads are spamming/flooding
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>>110266673
Why are you always so upset? What happened?

>>110266669
Is impressive how good Moss is at creating / gening so many styles and aesthetics but the borked details trigger my autism, for example the no symmetrical rims, the hands in the background and long thing bellow the door. We really need a big Moss.
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>>110266728
>>Why are you always so upset? What happened?
why are you talking to the reflection in your unpowered monitor , raped cripple?
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>>110266673
well seems like you didn't get banned after all. could be nice to have a productive peaceful thread even for a day
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>>110266772
these are the only deleted posts ITT, so i dunno where that delusion of your boogieman getting banned came from
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>>110266796
threads were going peaceful and well. seems like you were just nodding off from too much fentanyl
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>>110266669
Why are you here at the exact same time every single day since 4 years? Do you not have a job or family, friends, ...?
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>>110266927
The fact that you recognize that implies that you are in the same situation.
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>>110266927
>thinks people work on saturdays
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can't wait for the meltdown when we all ignore his trollbake again.
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>>110266982
qrd? what's wrong with the linked thread?
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Why would we use the thread everyone ignored because it was vandalized?
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>>110266762
SD1.5 ?
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>>110267042
what do you mean?
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>he baked a second vandalized troll thread
lel
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report and ignore :)
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>>110267088
Based vagueposter.
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>>110267042
which thread?
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>>110266976
>thinks employed people are online every single day of the year at the same time
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Why is he so raped?
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real bake, friends
>>110267135
>>110267135
>>110267135
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>>110266968
You can view threads after work anon
It's not like posts get deleted after 30 seconds or something
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>>110267137
Why spam threads?
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My permanent presence is normal and sane. Your permanent presence is pathetic and mentally ill.
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>>110267168
Whoops meant for >>110267069
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>>110262513
anima could be better but i think it's the best model atm for anime stuff desu
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What do people here use to generate audio clips?
For example if I wanted to turn an epub e-book file into an audiobook using some trained voice.
I know there are online services like ElevenReader, but I want something local and free as in beer.
Kokoro?
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>>110268209
>>110268669

>>110267137
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>>110263563
>It passed my first slop test.
you did
it is good
lower the cfg when you start to get 'from the can' sound
>>110263823
yet both of these are indeed slop



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