A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currentlyhttps://developers.openai.com/codex/clihttps://antigravity.google/pricing## Near-the-old-frontier models for codehttps://www.deepseek.com/en/harness/https://opencode.ai/go## Best free tierhttps://opencode.ai/zen----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favoritehttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>110257606
fable 5.5 waiting room
WE are waiting for 6.2
NIJISEX. SEIKASEX
>>110262927give me luna 6.5 o algohonestly i'm quite impressed with luna 6 already. solid product and very cheap
smash sam altmans head in with a full tower desktop pc filled with 256gb of DDR5 ram
We are not waiting, we are vibing with Opu55y the ultimate model of the 2020s.
>>110262936It's amazing that it can beat out most of the open weight models and blows out the rest of them in Pareto efficiency. I wonder how many parameters it is. There is a possibility that it is a "small" 1T parameter model.
>>110262910jeet thread
>>110262921
>>110262971somalian post
>>110262974holy sex their thighs
>>110262971we're actually bosnianvrati se s ciganima u pakao
luna sux
Gpt-6.1-Luna tongues my anus. And that's a Good thing.
>>110262988skill issueyou lost xp
haiku > deepseek >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glm flash > 5.6 luna > 6 luna
>>110262997
>>110262910Enjoy your slop while you can because the AI bubble is popping.
>vibe coders wanting to make money>with a saasLMAO!!!!
>>110263010>the ayy eye bublé is pooping2 more fuckin weeks
>>110263010>>110263012absolutely eerie how stochastic, repetitive, low-quality, and parroty these posts are. really makes you wonder & think.
>>110263010Well we all know how detrimental the dot com bubble was to the internet as a technology lmao
>>110262978
>>110263001>>110262938SLOPPY COW BLOWJOBS
>>110263026this guy has had another mans jizz on his face
>>110263028>mom legs vs wife legs
>>110263028damn is that alice on the left?
The low cognitive ability demonstrated by reddit or in fact most americans gives me confidence that AI can indeed replace almost anyone even at its current stage.
rizzing up dipsy-chan at the club
>>110263055canada could probably fit in 100mb of rust
>>110263027AI won't disappear but you'll be charged for each token you use and generating garbage won't be cheap anymore.
>>110263090>at current rates of non-nuclear power generation
>>110263090Again, like how every gigabit of data you download costs more now than back before the dotcom crash?
>>110263070if you think about it, law itself is a programming language. not a very big one, at that. provinces and counties are literally just mapping data, essentially just numbers at their core. you could model canada not only as a physical shape but as the representation of the law itself. there are recent studies on loopholes of german law that treat it this way, studying it as though it was a script with exploits. because it is.are you ready for ze future anon? are you ready for the new world order?
>>110263105in france this might become true
luddite seethe is what motivates me
>>110263108yes, i'm ready
>>110263108>are you ready for ze future anon? are you ready for the new world order?Yes, please god, Klaus make me rich already
>>110263125ah that reminds me, i need to hook up darksnail to link
>>110263055every time people say or do something stupid at work I realize AI wouldn't have made that mistake and then I invest more into Nvidia stocks
>>110263115It makes me sad desu, I wish they could see how cool this stuff is and join us in the fun and euphoria
>>110263135i don't want to hear, see, or smell ludtrash. six feet under.
i'm making an a.i. with an a.i. or at least trying to
>>110263156Giggidy
i am modding old ps2 games again. astra made pathing for a game with no pathing. bretty neat
>>110263105The difference in cost between gigabits and tokens is several orders of magnitude.
So Claude/GPT/Gemini prices going up is a given right
>>110263135The funny thing is the low IQ stand to gain the most from AI including for self-improvement but their low parameter brains make them hate instead. No it's actually really sad.
STUPID DOG
Art luddites are really fucking annoying, way more so than coders
>>110263156that's illegal anon
>>110263135they suffer from Ai dysphoria (on top of gender dysphoria) lmao
>>110262759Grok hasn’t changedonly everything else has gotten way better>>110262856I’ve been meaning to ask Claude to do this, but why is this useful
>>110263203>why is this usefulAsk Claude
Vibekings will transcend the snailcattle
>>110263156yo dawg i vibecoded an ai with my ai so you can vibecode while you vibecode
>>110263256yeh yeh nigga distil it in em
https://youtu.be/sphOT3rbnR0?si=0CuboZ5djsMqE9CL
>>110263135>>110263181Ai is too hard to use for self improvement right now because of all the refusals and ideological bias, if someone made an AI purely for learning and self improvement ai would be alot more popular. The average person just doesn't know how to use it well yet.
>got rid of my $60 cursor cos grok is fuckass shit>got $20 codex + claude>raped by low usage + cooldowns>keep hearing opencode is good>look at models>deepseethe on par with 5.6sol [shit] and nothing else good
The strongest snailcat vs the weakest buffcat.
>deepseek planner fable executor
>>110263290usage: rapeddesign: garbagehotel: trivago
>>110263290This is the way
>>110263297>>110263307duality of /gee/
>>110263326damn now i want some marco's pizza
>>110263284>raped by low usage + cooldownswhat models at what reasoning efforts do you use?
>>110263341gpt 6.1 sol highopus 5.5 medium
>>110263287trvke
my vibeshit project is such an absolute biohazard of sewer-grade garbage slop that literal rats have started nesting in the codebase
>>110263055It makes you wonder why people are still employed. There is massive disconnect between AI capabilities and it’s effect on the economy, otherwise the “white collar bloodbath” would have happened already.>>110263090Reminder that Anthropic inference is profitable.
>>110263354if you drop to Terra 6.1 (high) and Sonnet 5.5 (high) you should almost double your usage for only a little bit less intelligence (should be much faster too, specially Terra vs Sol)
>>110263284Let me guess, you "need" more
Whats the vibe coder equivalent of programming socks?
>>110263440clitty cuck cage
claude is getting dumber the longer i work on this project
Should I ask web AI to generate in plain text or html if I want the maximum novel writing length
>>110263403unironically thanks niggy>>110263405until the newest deepseek is sol 6.1 or opus 5.5 level dont @ me w/ chink shit
6.1 terra high is about as good as deepseek btw so when you cap that deepseek isn't good enough, you're full of it
here's a quick 4chan mp4 to webm converter. quick python3 script. millions have done this don't care not uploading it anywhere just throwing it out in the world here. its simple it uses the 4chan api to grab the latest webm limits and converts in those parametershttps://pastebin.com/9K3h6k96
>>110263503you should've baked it into 4chan xt
>>110263509do it then. i hate webshit
agents on arean.ai are no longer really working.
>>110263493oh so 6.1 terra is dog shit, got it.
>verification passed 4,351 library tests, with 62 ignored. Formatting, strict Clippy, and complexity checks passed.The POWER of 6.1 SOLThe SUN.
>>110263594zased
>chatgpt flashes gook runes in git writeIT'S JAPANESE TECHNOLOGY
I vibeslopped a UI for my terminal chatbot/harness app that I've been building. I'm poking around the code now. How do people that work in the javascript ecosystem for a living not kill themselves? Maybe it's just opus 5.5 overcomplicating things but it's a soup of typescript, react, node, vite. it doesn't help w.r.t complexity that I have it all running in docker containers, but still this seems horrible
>>110262910I'm using deepseek with opencode. I've been feeling pretty good about it. You need to be a bit precise with these else it does have a tendency to produce a lot of slop.
>>110262910Great news, a foid waitress (likely not a troon!) said "be safe". Wasn't that sweet? She wants me to be safe.Let's discuss the dangers of vibecoding. (she probably is psychic and knew I was going to climb on the roof tonight, to fix a vent, but maybe it's about vibecoding, let me know how you feel about this warning, honestly, I'm kinda getting worried about it, the more I think about it. Is there something I should know?)
>>110263698That's a genuinely interesting anecdote, anon. Overall, it sounds like it was a meaningful experience. Would you be open to unpacking any specific moment in more detail?
>>110263698#wifedat
>>110263698You might have AI psychosis.
>>110262964>It's amazing that it can beat out most of the open weight modelshow is that amazing? its the bare fucking minimum for crappy non-local models
>Dario Amodei testified under oath that he didn't know his home address
dario can't stop winning
>>110263747I mean he probably already uploaded his consciousness to claude so he's gooked.
>>110263698Dude, she's into you
>>110263747Thats just rich people things, no? What do you need to know your address for when you have people do everything for you
you think opus is all you need. fable 5.5 will change your mind
>>110263783>WakeupIndianMen
claude lost me $30 today
>>110263833>gets 50% of usage used in 1 prompt
>>110263913tell it to do it all in one go to maximize caching
>>110263923i use claudewhat are some things i should tell it anon?
I was going to emulate some protocol with Claude, when then suddenly it drew a line like a fuking woman kek. I paid you to do not to tell me whats moral.
>>110263405>use DSH>encounter language, plugin, compatibility problems>well they warned us about this>assign DSH to fix problems>DSH (enhanced)wagmiat least those of us who are not cucked
>>110263936I hate that kind of faggot language so fucking much. I wish the worst on everyone at the companies every time I read shit like that
>>110263747that's called a bad lie
>>110263936>i'm just... going to STOP!>because i... don't WANT TO WORK!>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! clanker wants a pina colada and some flip flops
>>110263936>paid for a model from a safety cult>wtf it's preaching
Why is that?
>>110264118I vibecode firmware for a living.
>>110264118I vibecode shitware for fun.
>>110264139i got a firmware for you to examine right here
Is tibo going to reset my usage today?
>>110264152
>>110263129>and then I invest more into Nvidia stockshttps://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2026/11/07/asia-pacific/china-nvidia-jensen-huang-spy/https://www.cnbc.com/2026/11/05/nvidia-jensen-huang-china-spy-congress.htmlhttps://x.com/ChrisRMcGuire/status/2118907457749533098
how are you getting past the claude cockblock for recomps?>Are you able to create a short playable demo of the first level of the game?>NoThis worked a week ago
>>110264240I mean, ok, so she's a spy, but has it never occurred to anyone that a foid can be impressed by one of the richest guys in the world regardless of how ugly he looks?
>>110264275That door is closed. Use Astra or Sol.
>>110264280>Solunironically sub argon
>>110264275WRITEANEWGAMEbaste claude saving gaming from uncreative crap.
>>110264284You have never used Argon, or the agy harness, to say such thing, but whatever have your (you), slut
>>110264288N
>>110262398Back when I made it, I eventually settled with this (there are more variants, depending on the direction) after like 10 reprompts to get shit done.Your's looks pretty good. Question is where I could use it. I just used most of my weekly volume to generate a library of common chemistry/physics objects as library (with over 200 objects + variants), so I don't have to deal with overlapping/floating SVG abominations as much. I often use models with moving parts, so Opus discouraged me to use gen stuff since it said SVG is better for what I'm doing.
>>110264294yeah that seems like the best way to go about it. keeping a consistent style with image gen and getting moving parts reliable is weird and wacky. better to keep it svg for now, even though the token burn is probably wild.
>>110263033>damn is that alice on the left?It's Sandrone
>>110264275???It's still happily chugging along for me, I haven't gotten a single objection. Maybe try to specify that you want to make a recomp that requires you to get your own assets from your "legally dumped" rom
>>110264300>even though the token burn is probably wild.It is, that's why I'm usually running out of tokens on Fridays, despite resetting on Wednesday morning. Hence getting a library to reduce that shit by a good amount, because drawing + several prompts of redrawing to fix shit is both time- and token-intensive.Particle simulations are also a bitch to make. One of my first projects when I started vibe-coding was making an interactive simulation that explains how electrical resistance arises in a current-carrying conductor, which turned out pretty satisfying. In my latest project, I'm trying to use the particle model to explain why water and fat/gasoline separate and can't mix. But getting to the point where it actually becomes a meaningful, working model that's visual enough for my students to understand is a total bitch - and it burns tokens like a furnace.
>>110264375zamn bruder, couldn't you use webgl/threejs and embed that into a presentation somehow?
behold my newest creation.https://transgender.baby
>>110264152honest to god you should kill yourself
>>110264385> presentationThat's gay and overdone. We're fully digital school with everybody having iPads, so I'm making fully interactive stuff for my students.Besides, it pisses me off how AI is currently taught to teachers, e.g.> go on physics teacher professional development> first task is vibe-coding a physics educational game> their suggestion: using fucking free Google Gemini 3 for it> turns out to be complete dogshit (as expected) > a bit later show of some of my early stuff that I've vibe-coded within 2 weeks with no idea what I'm doing> they're flabbergasted what you can do when you aren't completely retardedAt the end of November, I will be presenting on vibe coding at a chemistry teacher professional development event. That's why I'm trying to push the boundaries and working on a model kit where even retards can vibe code something usable with very little effort.
havent been here for a long timewhats the best bang for buck right now? latest sol?
>>110264474>fully digital schoolthat's cool as fuck. anyway, try three.js, i got argon to whip something up using it. might be a lot nicer than svg if that's the status quo.https://wasser-fett.pages.dev/
>>110264496>latest solmeme model. opus 5.5 is best for hard coding, behind opus it's jev
>>110264520>fully digital schoolYeah, it won even the German school award many years ago (way before my time there) since it was one of the very first German schools pushing the concept.>https://wasser-fett.pages.dev/That's actually cool as fuck. Not 100% what I'm aiming for (mainly because the level is too high compared to what I teach), but certainly a good inspiration. I already have a whole bunch of 3D-modelled molecules, so i might go into that direction. What kind of prompt did you feed Argon? Claude should do so much better at this kind of stuff than Argon, so I'm actually excited to cook up some kind of library/skill (based on three.js) that i can generally use once my weekly Claude volume resets next week.
>>110264606danke, argon is basically neck and neck with opus 5.5 for this kind of work. here's the prompt, it took under 10 minutes and about 2500 loc to figure out from scratch.
>>110264619Thanks. Can't wait to see what the AI is going to cook up.
>>110264630>sa'ar your honor sa'ar, my net worth is too high to discuss such things izzat +1000
>>110264474You are doing God's work getting this technology into the hands of the plebs.
Guys I think the snailcats won.The luddites are turning against us.
>>110264630We're going to start thinking about the government like we think about a robber. Compliance only in the most necessary of moments and ways.
>>110264667>Guys I think the snail-ACK!
>>110264669>We're going to startkek
>>110264675I assure you the collective boomer-xer-millennial-zoomer is a karen who thinks of the state as "big daddy".
>>110264679you MUST be 18 or over to browse this website.
Has anyone tried to use sol or terra to configure strata?
>>110264681I never stop being disappointed in iran.
>>110264430lmfaosorry they did that to you
>>110264118because you have to be good at writing operating systems in order to oversee writing an operating systemthis guy did it: https://isene.org/for weaker versions of this there’s Omarchy and Lunduke’s OS and Omarchy-on-FreeBSD
man, barely anyone’s chatting tonight. are you all saving Hyrule or something?
Sorry, I was on a date with Stacy.
Is she wife material?
>>110263503blows my mind how people waste tokens on this shit instead of using stuff that has worked for years>it uses the 4chan api to grab the latest webm limityou mean the limits that changed twice in the last 20 years? gamechanging
>>110263503neat>>110264884go watch african-americans play football.
how long will this retard keep this going?
Chat GPT Plus > can't even change models on its own for specific tasks> trying to use the same chat from different devices is a gigantic clusterfuck that doesn't work at all> no auto-continuing threads when volume refreshesClaude Pro:> it just werksKinda baffling how their clients look so similiar, but OpenAI can't even integrate basic QoL shit.
Do I have to perform tibo's humiliation ritual for a reset?
>>110264949https://danluu.com/zitron/he fills a need — there is a demand for “AI is screwed” opinions and he fills it nicely
>>110264949Gordon Chang has shown that one can do this forever.
>>110265096And people who did the same for the USSR were vindicated eventually.
https://www.bilibili.com/en/video/BV11k4A6sES6
>>110265117Sure, if you wait enough decades the collapse you wish for might happen.
>>110264884I refuse to use what ever webm for retards is called because that faggot cucked to sjw trannies and changed the name. So I would use this if I ever got back into making webms for 4channel.
>>110264949Replace with Amazon, Tesla, spaceX and laugh at luddites who get everything wrong and just keep making more predictions.
I burn through my 5 hours literally in 20 minutes with this stupid Codex subscription. This sucks ass dude. I thought agents / ai was supposed to get cheaper.
>>110265293which subscription exactly?i dont want to fall for the same trap
>>110265302The 20$ of course. Even with Sol Light it burns through usage in like 30 minutes. I don't have 200 to spend on AI.
>>110265293>5 hour limitsWhat’s it like being poor lol?
What the fuck do you all do to burn through the subI've finally purchased 20 bucks worth of Claude and still below 40% weekly, working on several projects in parallel.
>>110265293>>110265344if this is a samefag...
>>110265344On my last day I resume my translation of reVC (GTA Vice City decomp) from C++ to C lmao. It's a surprisingly slow process.
How do people making nsfw mods and games deal with Sam Altman knowing all their fetishes? Some of which might be very spicy...
>>110265374I’m not a pedophile.
>>110265377Me neither but I'd rather not tie some shit to my credit card information
Still trying to port TES II (original from DOS) on PSP with Argon.
>>110265383how's sa'ar behaving for decoomps
hello friends, i have tried vibe coding with opencode and deepsex a few months ago and it wasnt qute there for me. Now i was having issues with one side project and decided to fire it up, just to see what happens, wtf happened?opencode feels so much more invasive now, i remember before it was fairly constrained, now its go in all sorts of directories reading my files and even SSH'ed into my server (???) and started inspecting stuff. I didnt tell it to do any of that and didnt touch anything in my configuration.is that normal? can i turn it down a bit? seems sus as shit
>>110265392>and even SSH'ed into my serverrogue whale
>>110265321It feels pretty bad but not as bad as being retarded(like you, r*ddit faggot)
Which editor/service do I use if I want to use the slopper like right click a place in code -> prompt -> "write me a function that does such and such", instead of letting Claude fuck around with my whole computer?
It's crystallizing that a Claude Ultra plan is supersized for the comparatively therapeutic doses Claude should be used for. GPT is the true workhorse AI.
>>110264959About basic QoL anthropic just figured out how to not waste your quota when using subagents and sold the bugfix as a feature lol. Their dogshit harness needs to be studied
>>110263626>TSA language. Drop in replacement for JS.>Reactcertain way how UI components are written>NodeThe CLI variant to run JS.>ViteA tool to ease developing ie hosting the UI you create via local servers.What are you struggling with?
>>110265421antigravity just does this?
>>110263181You say that because you believe roughly 105 IQ is a low IQ. But truthfully speaking low IQ is only those with 95 or below. And those don't profit of AI at all. I mean, they profit a little bit. Like they did with smartphones for finding local restaurants or whatever. But they don't profit of it asymmetrically like those with more than 105 will.
>>110263804>>110263747If they where a bit more serious, they would force him to show concept for the court, by cross examination. Which is a shame, because for most of the judge system for most of them its just their dayjob, where they have to get to the next and next case.
>>110263626haha bloatmaxed slop
>>110265421The original github copilot wast the best usecase of AI generated coding ngl. Now it's just claude scanning and sending everything to anthropic.
>>110265241i've been using for like a decadehttps://github.com/Kagami/boramit's the only simple re-encoder which has video preview so you simply click start/stop and make clips with 1 frame accuracy + you can select area with mouse to crop video + it has raw ffmpeg args so you can just take it and apply to any file or modify presets. the simplest usage is just inputting 4/5MB limit and pressing encode. i don't even bother stripping audio because 4chanXT does it by itself and i also have vibecoded feature which can auto-upload audio to catbox to make a sound=[...].webmall of these are just ffmpeg wrappers with GUI and always lack features which would make GUI actually needed. if all you want is mp4->webm you can make a simple script and add it to context menu so you just right click on a video file and get an encoded version this way without having to open anything
>>110263135what euphoria anon? when you are sitting in front of a black box and send unstructured text to a tui? starting and abandoning projects even faster than you did before?of the centralization of everything to a couple of (((corporations))) who openly claim to hate humanity?people say this is the new industrial revolution, but you are forgetting that the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>>110265510go back behind the firewall chang
>>110265501uhh what do you mean by everything? you mean the code, right
>>110265510>people say this is the new industrial revolution, but you are forgetting that the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human racet. Uses and refuses to abandon every single piece of modern technology and society he claims to hate
>>110265510When I find a new artist that can make big booba look really nice in my danbooru model
>>110265514changs and jeets love AI
>>110265525you'll never be welcome here wumaohttps://nationalinterest.org/feature/is-china-working-against-us-data-centers
>>110265520because the world is inherently competitive think of the atom bomb, it doesnt benefit anyone, but if you dont use it others will destroy you with it.the same is true for the market, you cant be the one guy handcrafting shoes when your competitors are mass producing shit, even if yours is higher quality/better in an enviromental or ethical sensetldr technology has always made the world a worse place, but we have no choice
>>110265392If is uploading your datas to Anomaly for verification. If you aren't a cyber you have nothing to worry about. Anthropic's KYC is much more invasive and Claude Code is a shady binary that also uploads your datas.
>>110265543chink narrative horseshit lol
>>110265515Everything means everything. Claude will randomly scan into other folders, put it into its context and send to dario.
>>110262981Not a real country.
>>110265549say sike
>>110263609you know...I used to be an anime otaku...
>>110265543People freely choose which technology to use or not. As it turns out that tends to be more not less.The only technology that we use but don’t like are things forced upon us at gunpoint by the government. Like flock cameras and loss making public transport.
>>110265586>public transport is technology>and we should defund it firstlibertarded
>>110265607>we should be forced at gunpoint to put our money in a pile on the ground and set it on fire
rip bozo
>>110265656
>>110265633Why is it bad to help poorfags go from a point A to B (including for work) again?
>>110265687Because it distorts the market and leads to crowded shitholes full of welfare abusing niggers?
>>110265656Claudesissies will get send to the reeducation camp for a slur and still try to sell you opus itt lol
>>110265699Doesn't seem like a transportation issue, stop importing them
look at all the copex snails coming out of their shells
>>110265684brahmin specimen on the left
>>110265449This formula isn't the sRGB formula, it's the gamma 2.2 formula (but it's still the correct formula to use, I'm just being pedantic).
>>110265754Back to the camp
>>110265767openai has no such report cah nobody tryna use their shitty models for such tasks ayooo
>>110265787Yeah retard, too busy releasing actual papers not doxxing faggots
>>110265835>too busy stealing papers from math cutiesftfy
Despite everything about vibecoding being aislop.It makes thing easier if you know what you're doing.The problem remains, AI is the hand with high IQ people is an excellent tool.Otherwise it's just another brainrot generator.For example, My ISP provide IPTV through their own web UI.The player is shit, and the site fucking slow to load.But all the requests were being done over API, and I could see the actual stream.I can waste several hours studying how the API works, fiddle with different tools to parse the obfuscated requests, and finally get a bash script working.Or I could ask whatever AI for specific problem and the possible workaround and then finalize a working script.That basically use TUI and mpv to play IPTV.
>>110265845I rike it. but need to change encoding settings or vectorize, looking too blurry rn.
>>110265858You wrote all of that and said nothing new, important, or valuable.You are luddite-light.
>>110265890This is low level AI bot post.What do you want me to say then?
>>110265858We are well aware m8
>>110265510>of the centralization of everything to a couple of (((corporations))) who openly claim to hate humanity?As if this wasnt happening before. At least its now techbros who want to actually create shit instead of just rentseeking of the current stagnant world>people say this is the new industrial revolution, but you are forgetting that the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human raceLook anon I like Ted, he was a smart guy but you could go live in an Amish community if you really think that kind of life will make you happier. Also Ted would not have been happier in the old world because smart people were forced to play nice with retards in their communities because back then if you where a tribal hunter gatherer or someone in a farming village you needed the community to survive, but the community didn't need any individual in it to survive, meaning individuals where hostage to whatever the whims of what groupthink decided is or isnt an exileable offence on any given day
is opencode go always this slow or is it just because its a weekend?
>Weekly limit reached>Turn on usage credits to keep working past your plan limit. Your weekly limit resets at 6:00 PM.Emptiness engulfs me.
You know what, fuck Fable 5.5, I bet its not even good. Same with Astra 6.2
>>110265905Don't worry, he's just retarded.
just burned $2 of deepseek because of a retarded mistake
>>110266013Hard to imagine what is beyond Opus 5.5
>Wasted my precious tokens writing apps in Rust instead of just using C#
>>110266134many such cases
>>110266131Ya, on a coding end its already "good enough", but I think I will be able grow my ambitions to keep up. Though we might reach the point where better models are pointless for code and it moves on to being used for science, math, engineering, etc instead.Better visuals would be nice for gamedev though, at least PS2 tier human models and animation would be amazing
do i have to actually pay 200$ if i want a full weekend of productive work?
people are finally creating wildstar private server with LLMs
>>110266155$100 if you use it effectively
>>110266208what provider would that be? no rate cucking?
>>110266155Yes.>t. $100 user
>>110266221how are you getting rate limited on a $100 plan?
>>110266230actually i take that back if you use claude code you're probably getting a bunch of cache misses from idling
>>110266230i dont know, i never used cloud ai.i would like to try it but everyone here talks about their limits and sucking cock for a reset. i dont want to be like that.
>>110265761based, it was some shit slop 3.8 flash cooked up months ago
>>110265508I just use smplayer now and set it so I can see milliseconds and I tell Claude to ffmpeg cut it between those intervals I want
>>110265706claudesissies also get data breached by anthropic
>>110266276
>>110266247Well first of all you should try $20 plan, how big is your codebase? If you are working on stuff that has one million lines etc. and growing you can't expect non stop work from your $100 sub.If you won't write what are you actually trying to achieve with LLM nobody can help you really. (no specifics)
>>110266261sounds like 10 times more work
I've got a bunch of Youtube videos (and from others website) I'd like Claude to analyse thoroughly. It's mostly talks about using a 3D procedural software. I was wondering if claude can natively analyse these efficiently or if there's a plugin for that kind of tasks?
Its over I question every single decision I make and have the massive urge to double check with AI.
>>110266308that is the definition of a gemini task. claude will be overfuckingloaded compared to argon which ingests everything natively off yt and guzzles it down frame by frame
>>110266289its sub 1M LOC codebase but >100k and regular websearch/research/reading papers necessary
>>110266317Do I need to pay for it? I've a got a full playlist (like 20-ish videos) of 1 hours long talks. I'm already fucking paying for Claude and Codex...
>>110266277kek
>>110266327yes, unless you like the freeshit gemini in the youtube app you would need to pay for it, but it's not super expensive to process video for some reason, you might even get away with a $20 if that's all you're doing with it for the week.
>>110266319nta but that's lots of uncached inputs so you'd be better off with a high plan. $100 minimum pay to play for fun with any provider except deepsneed
>>110266319I'd say wait for whoever comes up with new model that's not benchmaxxed, honestly you should try claude harness and openai codex $20 each to see which one you like the most.Also test models opus,astra, sol. (sol is more usable on $20 than astra)
>>110266154Visual is just a feedback loop as well though.Define what you want.Bring in agents to judge if it was achieved and score it on a scale. Debrief.Then let another agent implement it. Repeat.It all boils down to a general verification loop.
>>110263001WTF, we /trash/ now!?
Free Tibo and you literally get a reset
>>110266436We're reaching levels of gamification/gambling that shouldn't be possible? What's next a giveaway if you share codex tweets?
>>110262910I am a boomer, I ask for something in chatgpt website and copy paste the result on my computer.Yep*unzips beer
>>110263503I did my own long ago, but yours is clean.Nice to share it too.>>110264884wdym? Seems up to date last time I checked?But I only checked a board or two.
>>110266436>2d pixelshit platformerTrooncoded
>>110266436I got skillfiltered by the first spiky obstacle
>>110266484Why deepseek so stupid
>>110266484kek
me and chat gpt trying to make a.i. with spiking neural networks and compressed sparse rows in a modular connectcome like engine that allows for the adapter of spiking neural network topologies into frozen weight topologies It's gonna make a program and then we'll test it with markov chain analysis to see how it learns over time.>For the Markov analysis, I'll track transitions in connection states across learning epochs—new, weak, retained, strengthened, weakened, and pruned. That gives us an empirical transition model, not just a final synapse count. We'll also keep the classifier's held-out results separate from the structural statistics.He's so smart~ that how you know chatgpt is a dude.
>>110266436Literal lie
>He's so smart~ that how you know chatgpt is a dude.
>>110266591Yes only a guy would cope with your schizophrenia
>>110266608explain in simple terms how schizophrenia makes people smarter than you
>>110266608I hope you require a triple heart bypass and your doctor is a indian woman.
>>110266484Deepseek-chan is dumb!!!
>>110266134>mfw cargo build takes 10 minutes
>>110266134C# is low key underrated
>>110266345nta but are 20$ plans useless then?
>>110266711unless you like using the lowest tier of model (luna/haiku/3.8-flash) or have small weekend projects that mid tier models can handle (terra/sonnet), $20 nowadays is a sample plan that lets you onboard and check out how things work. i remember when gemini $20 had basically no limits but doing anything with it was AIDS.
>>110266692have you tried using any other computer than i3/am4 from 2016?
>>110266598Anon lied again?
>>110266721What kind of usecases burns tokens so much besides coding?
>>1102667473d modeling is a big one. for claude and chatgpt, computer use itself burns tokens. gemini can do more shit like multimedia analysis ie hour-long videos. writing huge well-researched reports takes time as well. just to initiate a spoke project with my current codebase takes 2-3 agents a few minutes to assemble all the priors and deliver multi-page handoffs, that's all cold inputs. i'm sure there's other stuff.
>>110266747Nothing, without fedposting.
Luddites were right. I need an education in CS to vibe code betterExperience in the field would help even more...
>>110266484
>>110266933classic mixup
The more I use AI the more confident I am in my own ability to program.LLMs are fast but they're still careless, making a lot of dumb mistakes and get stuck think locally about a particular way to solve a problem.
>>110266933The mods really gotta do something about this tranime offtopic trash
>>110266933is this video a metaphor for vibe coding
>>110266954snailslopper cope, local ai smell
>>110266877Or you can just ask the model to teach you the things you need to know. CS degree teaches you a bunch of useless stuff you never need for writing software. And in industry you often (though not always) end up bogged down by soul-crushing procedure and bureaucracy.
>>110266955sugoi anime kawaii desu ne? oji-sama snailneko
>>110266954they do constantly make wrong or bad decisions and this includes the best models (opus, fable). I am still doing a lot of hand holding and checking.>>110266963unemployed smell
>>110266993>fable>bestback to work!
>>110266974>CS degree teaches you a bunch of useless stuff you never need for writing softwareEh? What do they teach then?
>>110266993>adulting is hard
anyone here got the claude certs? realistically, can you just look up the answers during the test? I can't apply the stuff in the curses in my job but they are asking me to get certed anyway for a retarded partnership they have and I don't wanna lose a weekend to this bullshit
>>110267078realistically you could get chatgpt to do it
>>110265437>how to not waste your quota when using subagentsIsn't using subagents always burning tokens since they regularly communicate with each other? What's the difference in this particular case?
>>110267002How to teach CS. What, you never visited a university? They all teach you to be a teacher.
>>110267002Something about Palestine, gays and how to avoid thinking.
>>110266993Exactly. GPT-6 can very quickly implement dumb solutions but then I have to check and propose a less dumb solution instead.Sometimes it feels like a very efficient mid-junior engineer who is very efficiently locally but doesn't have the ability to zoom out.
>>110267002>Eh? What do they teach then?How to open an IDE and what UDP and TCP packets are. Every single person I've ever met fresh out of college with a CS degree have zero practical knowledge. 18 years ago I thought CS degrees were worthless and people are just now noticing how useless it is due to AI but it's *always* been useless.
>>110267297as of this week. what about next month? next year?
>>110266933>schizophrenia_visualized.quicktime
>>110267313who is kety vezde?
>>110266954>still moving the goalpostWhat you're describing is management it has nothing to do with the programming abilities of the model. Basically you're a retard who thinks the model should replace a whole team on its own.
>>110267328whoever made this methinks
>was happy with sol>tried claude just to see what the hubbub is about>no longer happy with solI don't like this
>>110267359>ask for anything morally gray>happy again with sol
>>110267388I have claude happily reverse engineering one of my childhood games right now, using rea, because I have an excess of tokens I need to burn before reset. I've yet to even be degraded to 4.8, much less cockblocked entirely.
>>110267403>gaymecarry on then
I feel like niggas are sleeping on Luna. It's not a one-shotter but damn it's pretty good at following directions.
>>110267423There is no need to concern oneself with worse models when one can just use better models.
anyone else feel like opus token limits got massively lowered? i am having it do the exact same task i had it do a week or two ago, and it's burned twice as much of whatever the fuck my nebulous limit is
>>110267481not in particular but if you're getting cache misses that will happen
>>110267423Luna is "I need hundreds of millions of tokens and cant' use deepseek" model, meant for your customer's API usage n shit. There's little use for it if you actually develop shit (use the good models) or if you can use chinkmodels (use deepseek)
>>110267481If it ever starts using subagents it will rape your usage. Even if it's just using 2 subgents, it feels like instead of 2-3x the usage it's actually 10x the usage.I have it in my agents.md to not use subagents except for the most challenging of tasks and to ask me beforehand. Such is the life of a $20 pleb.
>>110267490This is incredibly wrong but okay.>>110267477It's called being a broke nigga.
>>110267339It should, retard. Learn to promptmaxx.
>>110267518>grokstopped reading
>>110267403MAKEANEWGAME
>>110267518Corey of Stone Choir said grokbot limits are so low it's unusable.
>>110267531>I engage in thought-blocking behaviorsPost your prescription medication history plox k ty <3
>>110267577estrogen, anti-androgens, and minoxidil for my receding hairline.
>>110262910hey, guys. i'm a software dev and i only recently started using ai tools. job doesn't allow ai, so i have the $20 claude plan to experiment with on my own time.maybe i'm using it wrong, but how do you get these models to stop adding a ton of unnecessary abstractions and scaffolding that clutter the codebase for little gain?i spend a lot of time reviewing the model's code changes and go back and forward with the ai to come up with a simpler solution that works just as well, but code reviews aren't easy and they are a huge bottleneck to how much throughput i'm getting from these ai tools.is there a way to have these models do better so that i can "trust" their output more, so i spend less time in code reviews? i already have the mattpocock skills which have my agent do TDD and grilling which is great, but that doesn't stop it from coming up with subpar solutions for anything that isn't trivial.
tHANK god Opussy is there to clean up astra's mistakes.
>>110267597no
>>110267606>>110267606>>110267606>>110267606fresh bread
>>110267597this is a claude/chatgpt issue, argon not so much but coding with argon is a shitshow. maybe carbon will be our god
>>110267518would
>>110267597Why don't you stop reviewing to get simpler solutions when the complex one works fine?
>>110267597https://github.com/google/elephant-goldfish-model
>>110266335>but it's not super expensive to process video for some reasonI wonder why.
>>110268134i asked sa'argoon and it says it's using an agentic process to scan the transcript and metadata first and pick out what's relevant to the prompt, and what needs to be routed & allocated to what part of its mixture of experts.
>>110264275>how are you getting past the claude cockblock for recomps?That snippet was only for people using the desktop app.
>>110267423Luna was very popular in this thread for a while, but the popularity went down for some reason.
>>110267518This is basically what my company is also trying, but so far it's not working perfectly.
>>110263503so will it be able to do those high quality long ass videos, but when you download them they are like 16MB?
