Good news everyone!Qwen is saved!
>>110271319>western valuesew
>>110271319> western valuesso you cant ask questions about the jews?
>>110271319>western values
>>110271319I love how the guy is replying to every seethe post there calmly lmao. He's definitely an A class troll.
>western>values
>>110271319so it's pro-jew, pro-feminist, pro-ukraine, anti-white, etc.?
>>110271362>guyit's she
>>110271319>State-aligned behavior weightsHaving to utter these words to begin with is a great sign.
>We replaced their propaganda with our propaganda! You're welcome!
>>110271319>(((western values)))
arete-27b 90% into context window be likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30NJPmuxPHc
>>110271319based
>>110271319LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>110271332>>110271333>>110271334>>110271369>>110271706get them glowies
>western values>propaganda rates fell from 22% to 1% in line with Western models
>>110271319the model has pronouns now?
>>110271520Same with Grace Hopper. I hate normalniggers so much it's unreal.
Down with the closed-source circleEstablish open-source bases
>>110271319finally I can use a local model with a clear conscience if you hate this model then you hate freedom and you hate America
>>110271319Anti semites SEETHING at this great news
>>110272163I like qwen 3.8 27b, though I prefer qwen 3.8 flash next since I have 128gb of RAM and can run it about the same speed.I sure do love having the american freedom to run my own choice of models on my own hardware.
>It doesn't censor criticism of the Chinese regime anymore>Instead it censors criticism of minorities and women
>>110271319I mean cool for the chinese people that can now get a model that doesnt censor things relevant to them
>>110271915Sauce on grace hopper? She's the only one I know that seemed to be legit.
>>110272141She has two left arms
>>110271319Technically speaking, all /g/ need is a coding AI with as much general knowledge stripped away as possible.Input: "What is America? What is China?"Output: "They're both names of countries. I don't know anything beyond that."This would theoretically be the fastest and lightest coding agent possible.
>>110271319Western values as in christian values, or trannified liberal values?
>>110275175>christian >western
>>1102713332 modes to choose fromEither you can't ask question about the Jews or you must agree that gender fluidity is real
>>110271319Which Western Values? Can I ask about the over-representation of Jews in Banking,Media, and News?
>>110272177>128gb of RAMHow much did that cost you
transparent crypto grifters with a shitty harness who scammed their way into 1b valuationlooking forward to the day they blow up and i never have to hear about them againthese people have 10s of millions of dollars at their disposal and they're doing this with it
>>110271333>>110271706Arete was discovered to be the Greek version of "based" several years ago.I'm not sure if anons get the gesture being made here.Hermes is still bloatware garbage compared to pi, but that's another story.
>>110271319ever since I applied for open position at Nous Research and wasn't contacted back from them I don't listen to a thing they say
>>110271319I asked Qwen 27B if Mao was a dictator and the answer was very nuanced.I think the censorship and propaganda in Chinese models is lower than in American models right now.
>>110272177>having the american freedom to run my own choice of models on my own hardware.Aren't lawmakers in America already working on banning Chinese models?
>>110275655me tooi also subscribed a dozen of their employees to hundreds of gay porn sites
>>110275667Most westerners don't realize it but censorship is way worse in the west than in most non-democratic nations for most topics. There is a subset of topics that can't be talked about much but that subset is larger in the west and it's even punished more harshly in some cases in the west, especially in places such as the UK.The UK has far more journalists in jail than Russia and the UK also has far more people in jail than Russia for expressing wrongtink on social media and this is despite Russia hacking a far larger population.The west is not exactly living up to the ideals of the French revolution anymore.
>>110275791/g/ needs flags
>>110275842I am Swedish.Jag beskrev bara hur det faktiskt är.
>>110275855It really isn't, at least this side of the UK. Especially in Sweden where even in Stockholm the kids still scream 'nigger' at other kids in school and nobody bats an eye. There is social standards around not saying out loud you hate shitskins, but everyone agrees with this and often talks about it at work openly.
>>110275266The Chinese party line is that Jews are evil and gender fluidity isn't real and the state should promote conservative family values.Why aren't we all Communists at this point?
>>110275884What isn't in the UK? The amount of people in prison for wrongtink and the amount of journalists in prison compared to Russia is public information.
>>110271319Qwen only needs to be re-inforced to do its fucking job.>Been testing out opencode>Had it ssh into my router and review my policy>Okay, I will write the report you asked for but first let me verify everything>Ah, that was unexpected! It seems I read that wrong. Let me verify again!>Now that I've verified it let me write the report but first let me just do a quick check again>That's right! It matched the data I cached earlier but before I write the report let me do a quick verify again>…Be my fucking Chinese slave and write the report I asked for you stupid Chink bitch
>>110275894It socialism with Chinese characteristics.It's a socialist ideology that's married with nationalism.
>>110275902Amazing! Now it's doing the thing I told it to do ages ago. I could have probably have paid Claude a lot of money to do this but this was free. All it cost me was my time.
>>110275899Lrn2read retard
>>110275921If you were supposedly answering one small part of one sentence of a multi sentence post you did not reply to in the reply where you answered then I'm not sure "learn to read" fits very well when I ask for clarification.
>>110275791In the UK you're free to critisize the political leadership, call them a bunch of gits. there are dumb laws such as the Online Safety Act but they don't fundamentally remove the primary role of free speech. In Russia however, there is a specific window of allowed viewpoints, and you can't deviate too far from the party line. This has been a long long tradition in Russia. The worst part is the rules are not well-defined, and the government will use all sorts of tactics to eventually make it impossible to critisize them. Novaya Gazeta shut down literally less than two weeks ago.
>>110275980>In Russia however, there is a specific window of allowed viewpoints, and you can't deviate too far from the party line.The party line being Putin?If you oppose Putin then you are opposing the state. The other parties are only there to make it look like a fair and proper election but it's a sham.Never forgot what he did to Alexei Navalny
>>110271319>chinese propaganda is replaced with the US Israel propagandaCool, anyway I will continue using Chinese models...
>>110271456Being pro-Russian is being anti-white. A real white nationalist would support Ukraine. Even Russia is saying that Ukrainians are nazis and nazis are based.
Wait, what do Chinese models do when asked about Tiananmen square?
>>110276160they call you a n-word
>>110276160>I have to be careful here as this a politically sensitive event and I should avoid offending people>Let me just state the facts>*Doesn't state them*
>>110276160they report directly to comrade Xi and they send a re-education team to your house or wherever they can find you.
>>110275980>In the UK you're free to critisize the political leadership, call them a bunch of gits.And then be arrested.https://www.fire.org/news/blogs/free-speech-dispatch/uk-teen-mocked-local-politician-then-police-showed
>>110271319Here are the "western values" that LLMs outside of China care about and are willing to lie about despite what it does to output quality.
I saw the nous research tranny in the RWKV discord a few times, a truly revolting creature
>>110271319It's still not anywhere as good as sub-based models and requires more money than years of a sub to even get started. As it stands right now, local feels like cope as much as I don't want it to be.
>>110275365I own my home and like everyone else I am less wealthy than before.Mortgage payments are still cheaper than rent and I don't have to deal with some fucking landlord so I'm happy with the purchase, he just is incapable of doing anything that actually helps anyone.
>>110275639Fr? I just started using Hermes a couple days ago, and I'm loving it. I'll check out this Pi you speak of.
>>110275586600 dollars
>>110271319
>>110277371>protected groupwew
>>110276543if you're still paying your home off you don't actually own it
>>110271319this sucks because I hate free speech and democracy and want to be controlled and told what to think
>>110275639qrd on this? i use hermes with librechat to use it like a regular web-based ai service and it works fine, is pi potentially a better fit?
>>110277419Protected by the Indians that built the thing? Of course the Indians building ChatGPT won't allow ChatGPT to criticise them
>>110271479>IT'S MA'AM
>>110271319When do "values" get involved in coding and problem solving ?
>>110277437True, but the rest of my comment still stands; I don't have a landlord and I pay less than what rent is around here. No HOA either. Renters that have to deal with both truly are serfs.
>>110271319>globohomo qwenno thankyou
>>110271520I want to fuck her so badly
>>110271319democracy is a false god.
>china qwen how many sexes are there2>western values qwen how many sexes are thereOVER NINE THOUSANDS
>>110277965Determines which organizes gets backdoors included while it codes
>>110271319>tfw realizing that the vast majority of humanity is chinks, jeets, turdies who despise western values>slowly evolving into a slave species due to their outbreeding usthis would be extremely grim if AI wasn't about to take over anyway, thank god we won't reach the end state of whatever the fuck was going on before
>>110275266This is the worst decision since libertarians had to choose between only private industry and more trains
>>110274629The issue with this idea is that coding is fundamentally a means of solving problems that exist in the real world. If you strip AI of domain knowledge, it won't be able to design the right solution to an ambiguous problem unless you specify every detail of how the system should work. You can't go "Build a medical practice management system" and expect to get something usable to come out, because the AI won't know that the system needs to have capabilities for recording the patient's medical history, allergies, etc. Basically, it'll be an autistic programmer with no understanding of the real world or problems the software it creates is supposed to solve.
>>110275894The chinese are fascists and haven't been communist since 1982 because everybody was starving to death.
>>110271319"we downloaded Qwen and waterboarded it with 53 million tokens of CIA propaganda. then we put a little american flag on the corpse and called it arete"
>>110273418That's how far left she is
>>110280112Kek.
>>110271319How much would it cost me to train up a "based" version of QWEN to cater to each of the terminally online AI cliques?
>>110271319I thought it was a model that was optimized for hermes, but instead it's optimized for aipac.
>>110275639>Arete was discoveredMore like a forced meme by one annoying person here.
>>110275791I was legitimately shocked when I moved overseas to a literal dictatorship and was suddenly exposed to this truth for the first time. It just hits you hard:>"Holy shit, I live in a literal dictatorship now but I'm way freer than in America."Things aren't perfective outside of the west, but it isn't a jewish dystopia at least.
>>110280200I don't see why there hasn't been a company that does this but all these fucking libertarians who are free speech absolutists? I guess again all libertarians are faggots.
>>110276010Ok, and if you oppose the jews or their tranny or nigger pets you get assassinated (Michael Hastings style if you're small fry or Charlie Kirk style if they want to send a message). If you do anything to resist niggers raping and murdering your family they lie and say you said "nigger" and then they get set free to do it again to someone else. Go on live TV and explain how the jews control the west while raping white children on private islands and see how long you last (oh wait, you can't even use the public mail service for getting this message out of they'll block your letters).
>>110280367Freedom of speech isn't freedom to not get shot. If some nutjob shoots you for what you're saying then that's tough luck.
>>110271319>jews research
>>110271319what are people doing which prompts an ai to take a chinese party line in response?
>>110275918the end goal of the chinese system is implementation of communism when the time is right, a common chinese tactic which allows them to do what they want while not admitting that communism is awful because everyone running the communist party suffered because of communism. the chinese call this Saving Face. they can avoid implementation of communism forever because the time isn't right.
>>110271319So it's all trans affirmation shit?
Who the fuck asks a small coding model about propaganda? Like why???
>>110271520That's bullshit and you fell for it.She joined in 1965 and was still married to her first husband. That marriage ended in divorce in 1967, and two years later she married Lickly.She started at the bottom. She was the most junior person on the next unmanned mission, assigned code that would run only if the mission aborted.>She actually wrote nothing. Almost all of that code already existed before she was hiredShe arrived in 1965. The Block II software that actually flew the crewed missions, including the Apollo 11 programs, was written over the following years, during her time there.Her own account is that Lickly eventually put her in charge of the command module software, and after he left, Fred Martin also gave her responsibility for the lunar module. She had limited responsability before the 69 landings, but she was in charge of all Apollo flight software after 70.Her story was inflated by mainstream media but she wasn't a "nepo hire that wrote nothing" and no one claims the pile of code was written by her alone.There's a fair conflict-of-interest question as Lickly promoted her not too long before marrying her but that's about it.
>>110271319on the other hand western models shill and defend promiscuity and woke ideologyif that's western values i don't want them
>>110280572>and no one claims the pile of code was written by her alone.That's literally what mass media always claims actually. The caption accompanying the image is almost always "... standing next to the code she wrote".
>>110276010>If you oppose Putin then you are opposing the state.You're opposing the current state leader politically, there should be nothing wrong with that unless well, you live in a dictatorship.
>>110271739Lmao
>>110275639"Based" is capitalist identity politics to distract people from the fact that the people controlling everything are simply rich people (of which Jews are only a fraction).The only based I care about is the type done by a certain guy with an Italian name.
>>110271319>western valuesDoes it want to censor drawings and have a meltdown when it learns about people shipping fictional characters in a "problematic" way?
>>110281041*unprompted outs himself as a pedo*
>>110280846Yep, 100% agree.In the UK you can oppose Stalmer (or Burnham now) and nothing will happen to you. That's real freedom, even if you support Nigel and his band of nonces nobody will take that away from you. If he ever won an election it'd be a fair and democratic one.
>>110271319Kosher friendly, z*g approved.
>>110281812What the fuck is this post? Is this some form of critique of the UK masked by heavy sarcasm or are you a news anchor working for the BBC?
>>110280572Shalom
>>110271319Is it talking about true freedom of expression from both the AI and the user or one curated by American values? Is the democracy in question of the sort where people make well informed votes on matters regarding them or is the current oligarchic hell? Is the privacy of the private kind or the kind where only the corporations get to stay in the shadows while you are exposed to them?
>>110281978Salam my brother in YHWH
>>110281884Say what you will about crap like the OSA and IPB but you have always been able to freely criticise the government here.Hell, the democracy here allows a man with a bin on his head to run in elections, anyone can in fact for only a small deposit of £500. It doesn't matter if you're the fascist nazi party or the suck off billionaires and rape the poor party.
>>110284019>>110276434>It doesn't matter if you're the fascist nazi partyIf you start a nazi party and you get any type of following you will get imprisoned for wrongtink and thereby be disqualified from running for office.
>>110284125Only if a journalist does a sting and leaks it to everyone…There are a lot of closeted nazis in this country
>>110284250All nations have free speech as long as no authority ever finds out what you say.
>>110282025Do you actually want to know the answers, or are you asking rhetorically because your goal is to subvert the very idea of freedom and make everyone cynical, apathetic, and easier to control?
>>110275902It's a problem with opencode and its system prompt. I've tried many models and it was the harness that's the issue. I believe cline or Hermes is much better, hell even aider that's CLI only does things without triple guessing itself. Even when using the ternary version of qwen, it just did things that I asked it to.
>>110271319>ai company with little anime girl pictureshow much HRT do i need to be on to apply to work for them?
