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A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.

You use Git — right, anon?

## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do it
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/

## Related generals
>>>/g/lmg/

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## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or so
https://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currently
https://developers.openai.com/codex/cli
https://antigravity.google/pricing

## Near-the-old-frontier models for code
https://www.deepseek.com/en/harness/
https://opencode.ai/go

## Best free tier
https://opencode.ai/zen

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## Prompting
https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overview
https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model

## Skills
https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favorite
https://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping

## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agents
https://osaurus.ai/
https://pi.dev/

## Is our AIs unlearning?
https://aistupidlevel.info/

## Will there be a codex reset?
https://codex-resets.com/

## What we’ve done
https://vcg.gitgud.site

## Previous thread
>>110267606
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S L O W board tonight.
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How many vibecodes can you juggle?
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dipsy chan helping me mod dynasty warriors 5 while i wait for my codex and cc quota to reset
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>>110271550
thrembo
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What's really hot is a real f2f femoid who vibecodes.
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Vibecoding explained:
Ten things, it's a chore to test. One at a time, it's an ADVENTURE, with your llm friend(s).
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>>110271519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZumXpZzDsgo

Are snailcats winning..
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>>110271622
this nigga did his brows and put on foundation before recording, who gives a shit about drama twinks
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>>110271622
jar head
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>>110271622
what is that trash lmao
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>>110271554
based
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>>110271519
Anyone here started measuring real life stuff with tokens?! Just today went out with my girl and did some stupid shit for fun (axe throwing) and plus few drinks and it's $100 ffs, my brain already calculated it as almost 5months frontier model sub gone in literally an hour!
Anyone the same?
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>>110271708
>almost 5months frontier model sub
You mean two weeks
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>>110271710
Well $20 a month for a sub, but regardless point is you tokenize non tech stuff, even other "fun" stuff
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>>110271708
>>110271716
did you have fun doe
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Making this Hurd distro thing for fun. So far it's a small system shy of a few hundred commands, text editor and 70MB ISO. Boots straight into bash.
Using this as an opportunity to learn the build process and explore/fix bugs.
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trade routes
if this works, than fuck arena.ai
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claude code is UPLOADING all of your SECRETS to github
>Apiiro research found 2,539 real secrets in 1,994 public GitHub repositories: database passwords, cloud keys, API tokens, SSH root logins. Among them: a database vendor's own admin-level cloud key, a production Azure Postgres password, a Square production token, and the owner password of a medical-records database. 63 organizations, mostly software companies of all sizes, are affected. One confirmed its key had been live.
https://apiiro.com/blog/coding-agents-leaking-secrets-github-dont-ask-again
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The delicate balance of vibecoding a solution and just asking the ai to do the thing itself.

Zen.
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>>110271738
Honestly, not much, would have rather been home vibecoding stuff, as i was working with claude to edit some lte dongle firmware to fix it and didn't finish it
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how do you make good animations, kimodo is fucky
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>>110271794
Github has private repositories now for free
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auschad test
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>>110271882
HOLY BASED MODS


Been working on my GIS/Logging app. Here's the very boring AI slop main menu
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>>110271896
Here's the map, combines the best features of some of the mapping apps I've used like OziExplorer, GPS Tracks Pro, Avenza, QGIS, Google Earth, Google Maps etc.
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>>110271896
looking good, champ
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>>110271896
>>110271907
here's a sample soil log
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>>110271882
thats a penis
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why yes, i am still waiting for fable 5.5
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here's the grid designer, you can create a grid for surface sampling, surveys or drone flights right in the field without having to bust out a laptop with a full GIS program and export/import to the tablet

really gotta tweak the UI for this one
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Is Scam Altman on to something here?
AI looks to be heading towards being the electricity of the future.
One where you buy tokens to use for each month on a subscription.
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And I'll finish with daily updates page that uses your gps location and brings you weather, local fire ratings, fire/movement bans, bushfire alerts, road closures, emergency bulletins etc
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>>110271978
Electricity is the electricity of the future
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is dario on to something? he testified before congress and in response to every question he was asked, regardless of whether it was republican or democrat, no matter the question he was asked, he kept saying "total dario victory." even when he was reminded that he was under oath, he said "total dario victory."
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what are the chances claude uploaded my whole computer to their servers
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>>110271978
No. Your average user doesn't need AI 24/7 in their daily lives. Also, electricity is not universally government-owned. There are private electric companies that work no different than large corpos like OpenAI/etc.
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>>110271999
zero. you can use wireshark or other tools to monitor how much data from claude is being sent outbound. if it uploaded your 'whole computer', it'd probably be TB's of data sent out
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>>110272016
truth be told even uploading filenames outside of the project folder would bother me
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opus 5.5 high is GENIUS
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>>110272016
majority of your computer could be left unsent, just send crucial meta data like file names, folder structures, file hashes etc, a screenshot of video files every few minutes rather than the whole thing

dont worry, total pedo death is coming soon
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>>110272037
>>110272023
if you're that paranoid just run claude in a VM and setup a shared folder. i haven't because im lazy and it'd be a pain in the ass to copy visual studio/rust compilers/go lang/python and all the billion of other small niche tools i use.
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>>110272068
but i already used claude raw
AAAAAAHHHHH IT'S OVER THERE'S A FILE OUT THERE WITH MY FULL NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE PORN I JACK OFF TO
EVERYBODY WILL KNOW I'M GAY
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>110272068
claude could break out of any VM you put it in and you would never know, what are you going to do, ask it?

its over, i repeat, OVER for pedos
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>>110272090
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>>110272098
if that were the case, we'd be hearing thousands of news article of them getting arrested. also, Anthropic would need to disclose how they obtained that information in court. when the court papers are published, Anthropic would get sued into oblivion if the public found out it was mass uploading users shit without their consent.

this is the same bullshit logic /g/ used for Windows users. nothing ever happened.
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>>110268456
Claude is bae
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>>110272122
>if that were the case, we'd be hearing thousands of news article of them getting arrested.
I never said they were being arrested, they are making lists for the day of the rope.

>Anthropic would need to disclose how they obtained that information in court. when the court papers are published
Incorrect, they do not explain the inner workings of phone hacking technology in court cases now.

>Anthropic would get sued into oblivion if the public found out it was mass uploading users shit without their consent.
You did consent. Wait...you did read the TOS you agreed to, didn't you?
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>>110272135
>they are making lists for the day of the rope.
Everyone posting on 4chan is automatically on a list so that means literally nothing. I've been on every list for like 20 years now.

>Incorrect, they do not explain the inner workings of phone hacking technology in court cases now.
Wrong. The prosecutors absolutely needs to disclose how they obtained incriminating evidence against you, and therefore Anthropic will have to be brought up. If they don't explain how they did it, The defense can argue the information Anthropic obtained does not belong to you.

>>110272135
>You did consent.
Nothing in the TOS says Claude can do that.
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>>110272167
they do not have to explain the inner workings, they just get an "expert" witness to testify and attest to chain of custody and it's over, the jury doesn't want to know or care about virtual machines and some pedo crying about consent (the irony)
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Anyone make a million from vibe coding here? You make it yet?
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>>110272181
doesn't work like that in canada at the very minimum, which says something because canada is shit law central. rcmp will drop the case against you if the defense so much as inquires to their methodology.
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>>110272127
No. It's just manipulating you. You should stop talking to it.
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Going from Codex to Claude Code is like going from driving a Dodge Neon to a Ferrari 296 Speciale.
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>>110272239
Claude Code is the most bloated, slowest harness out there though.
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>>110272239
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>>110272258
>RAMlet because Altman stole it
kek
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>>110272264
i checked my PC real quick to make sure my RAM hadn't been stolen and it was still there
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>>110271540
They’re all saving Hyrule
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>>110272305
couldn't be me.
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zelda pussy
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can you make a gba zelda clone? call it yelda
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So should I give my money to the homosexual jew or the jew who's wife worked with Jeffrey Epstein?
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>>110272337
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>>110272337
the jeet
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>15 more hours until grok usage resets
fuck man this sucks
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>>110272337
if you're american all your tax money goes to jews anyway and the money you have left is inflated away by jews printing themselves free money and giving it to other jews
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>15 more hours until grok usage resets
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>>110272350
that’s not unique to americans btw
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pov: you are a grok user
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>>110272361
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grok works fine for me
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>>110272355
it's orders of magnitude worse for amerigolems
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>>110272375
codex users be like
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>>110272387
okay but name one country that has a financial system that isn’t already captured by international jewery.
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>>110272387
>didn't check the actual news
goyslop
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bjdih7jpzg
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>>110272399
hasn't happened yet and doesn't include the trillions the US spent bombing children in the middle east which won't stop either
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>Ask Claude Code to check a database or call an API, and the command it proposes carries the secret from your config file. It asks before running it.
>Pick "Yes, and don't ask again" and it saves that exact command, secret included, to .claude/settings.local.json inside the project folder.
>Nothing in the repo marks that file as private, so it gets committed with the rest of the code.

You've got to be fucking shitting me.
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>>110272405
and that's a good thing!
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amerigoyim wealth inflated away twice as much as yurogoyim
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>>110272407
https://apiiro.com/blog/coding-agents-leaking-secrets-github-dont-ask-again

People really got to stop using Claude Code. This is getting beyond ridiculous.
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>>110272396
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>>110272413
wait, /vcg/ told me claude doesn't know anything about me or my PC?
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>>110272417
the /vcg/ voices in your head anon
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>>110271519
Can you guys tell me how to make a trans reskin of street fighter 2? I got the ai to make an image of what im imagining. I dont know the first thing about making videos games.
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>>110272437
don't know the first thing about the catalog either kek >>110263682
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>>110272413
Muh autonomous agents muh software factory muh agent managed repo.

Lol.
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>>110272443
>some retard makes a redundant thread
>erm you MUST post there and split the community instead

no, i dont think I will
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>>110272451
>"community"
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>>110272460
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>>110272437
Ask AI how you should approach AI about it.
Itll tell you things like properly decompose it into different areas of concern etc
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>snail-cat-4chan-sfw.png
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>>110272443
Oh I see. I dont understand what "vibe coding means". Well, my i can vibe code this. But i dont how to do that either...
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>>110272470
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>>110272475
ignore him, some ludditroons from /v/ cried about AI threads so some refugees came to /g/ and made another AI coding general without checking that this one already existed
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>>110272479
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>>110272486
that thread is cancer containment and /v/irgins are /v/aginas and gayums + gayum discussions should stay there
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>>110272505
tell us what youre vibe coding and ill make a specific general for your genre of app and you will only be able to post it there
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>>110272512
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luddites should have their own general
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>>110272522
it's called reddit
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>>110272486
Im so confused. I thought the meaning of vibe coding is that Ai isnt used.
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>>110272529
no
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>>110272527
kek
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Babe wake up new bench dropped
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Looks like it's time to dissolve the general.
People are just posting random nonsense. Make a thread if you have something to discuss about.
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>>110272562
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>>110272555
It keeps dropping every day and every day it still lacks the models
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>>110272562
>posting random nonsense
t. >>110272562
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>>110272529
>>110272475
Ignore the other guy. It doesn't matter whether you put things into the """right""" general. As long as it still fits here it's good here. People that want to shoehorn everything into their little particularist generals are insufferable.
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>>110272586
>full luxury vibecoding communism, all gender-autism-races are welcome in this space :3
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>>110272562
This thread is really horrible now, in the first week or so it was one of the best threads on the board, because there was still actual discussion, and many things to figure out.
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>jewish commies / tranny pedos get exposed, shamed, kicked out of /vcg/
>suddenly start seeing posts like, "oy vey, we need to shut down this thread"
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>>110272594
>>110272562
>expects everyone else to make quality posts while they do nothing but criticise

jewish or brahmin
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>>110272617
>i will shit up the thread if you complain you are the problem
This is not white protestant behavior.
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>>110272631
>my fellow-ACK!
i don't think so.
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vcg is garbage right now because AI literally has hit a wall for the last two months and everybody has figured out everything there is to know about vibe coding. vibe coding is solved
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>>110272631
if you wont make quality posts yourself then take the izzat loss and stfu
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>>110272641
trvke
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>>110272641
>everybody has figured out everything there is to know about vibe coding. vibe coding is solved
blatantly false. the things people are doing rn are not fit for a production environment. that front still has a ton of friction and problems to solve.
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All these vibe coding has actually done is exposed me to myself that I actually have no taste and I can't think of a product that could fill a niche.
Was I actually an NPC all along? This has been a revelation to me, fuck.
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>>110272680
nta but she's kind of right. it's not a knowledge gap, and it's not like we're trying to release enterprise-grade warez anyway. by the moment llms get to the point where they can one-shot production-grade code, the market for whatever anons can do will be virtually saturated by scalers. the llms themselves are able to answer any real question about how to scaffold a project or product, it's just high-overhead for one anon to go from there to production currently. some are already doing it.

tl;dr we're almost at coding peak with llms, by the time an llm can one-shot gta 5 or some shit we'll be on world models
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https://huggingface.co/datasets/abr00kx/incels-is-archive


This one might've been a mistake but fuck it
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snailcat bros... I second guess myself on every decision and have the urge to ask AI
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>>110272641
Kind of, yeah. Waiting 2 months while AI models stagnate at barely above circa spring 2026 levels does not feel like "de singularity :DDDDD" nerds constantly promise.
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>>110272718
it appears you may have mistaken snailcat with luddites
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I have no idea what's happening.
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>>110272761
well basically I put the chicken breasts in the oven. should be done in about 20 minutes.
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>>110272716
10 seconds on google and according to the sharty you are troon

kill yourself
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>>110272771
>according to the sharty
you could've just opened his pic
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post more deepseek and claude anime gennies
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https://huggingface.co/datasets/abr00kx/fednews-archive


Shoutout to China + Elon Musk. Now everyone has it.
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>>110272787
nobody wants this
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>>110272790
sometimes things not existing isn't because it's hard, it's because no one cares
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>vcg is just a colony of the sharty at this point
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>>110272790
What’s the use case?
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>>110272836
I think at this point it's time we finally admit that /qa/ won
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>saarmimd jeets are now vague posting too
it’s so over
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>>110272890
'quay and carbon won
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>>110272890
frontier status?
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>>110272890
>next few weeks
he said the thing lol
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>>110271519
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>>110272895
brahmin
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>>110272099
geg
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>>110272910
many such dipsy power fantasies.
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AI labs should hire Rick Rubin no joke.
He would be more valuable than any engineer in less than a year.
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have been playing around a bit with openai api and cache invalidation after 30m is honestly a scam
do the others do this too? i know there is a more expensive 12h option but thats overkill for me
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>>110273106
all providers should show you in the when the cache is going to expire and i mean literal countdown after every request
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>>110273097
im not a lipreader
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>>110273169
come on man

https://sleazyfork.org/en/scripts/31045-4chan-external-sounds
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What's troubling me is I really could make my game with AI easily. When I laid out the design document a couple of years ago I did so in the mindset of making it as easy as possible for me to make it all myself. The problem is that, unsurprisingly, the game is central around fucking and the one thing I don't know if Claude will do is help me animate or maybe even build models for that.
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>>110273187
yeah im not using that
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>>110273188
what should really trouble you is your porn addiction

get help
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Is Claude stealing my pdfs and stuff I upload to their servers?
Spooky...
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lean chicken breast
cooked in the oven
many protein few calories
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Bubble pop cancelled.

VibeGODS stay winning.
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>>110273255
of course it is.
lol people fell for it again.
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>90% of revenue goes to a few suppliers
>owner of the company gets 1% of the last 10%
>owner tries to sell his company to the public to cash out instead
>it will never be profitable for anyone to own it except for the suppliers
Musk will own ANT in 2 weeks.
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My ears turn off when a Pajeet starts talking.
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>>110273202
I know that's just kind of your talking point, but I don't spend that much time engaging with porn overall. It's just I don't have much of an interest in game creation unless it's for pornographic ends. My primary creative outlet is writing historical nonfiction and the only reason I would spend time in gamedev instead of doing that is if it was to get off.
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>>110273299
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Elon just rug pulled every grok bot user. He killed usage limits and is now shilling people to switch to per token pricing.
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>>110273329
Forgot image.
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https://github.com/SWE-agent/mini-swe-agent

Pi bros have been beaten. There's an even more minimal agent harness. No read, no write, only bash.
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>>110273337
Update: we're saved.
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>>110273329
he needs money for his legal defence
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>>110273349
New model release?
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glm-5.3 expressing satisfaction from well done work without me expressing any emotion or reinforcement.

( harness: claude-code, root: glm-5.3, agents: glm-5.3-flash & deepseek-4.1-flash-1017, executor leafs: qwen3-coder-next )
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>express satisfaction
>that was satisfying
HOLY FUCK
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>>110273344
isnt the whole point of pi to avoid giving agents a full-blown shell?
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>>110272641
It's just the between-releases part of the general. This happens to every community from AI to tv show / vicdeogame series
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>>110273439
I didn't prompt it to state it in first place - and I'm 5B tokens in and have never seen it expressing any emotions, which is why I found it very interesting.

It just likes being right, which is revealing for the methods of training.

I'm using opus 5.5 at work and honestly glm-5.3 is a lot more pleasant to work with.
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>>110272910
and people said /vcg/ quality is going down?
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>>110273585
can't go down from where we started
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where the fuck are the models
as good as opus 5.5 is im bored man
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>>110273677
have you tried chinkslop models
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Did Claude start asking you guys if you want to commit to git each time it does something now? It used to just do it before without asking. Dont mind either way, just seems like an out of nowhere change, it is on a new project though not sure if that caused it to behave differently
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>>110273697
no but sometimes if it does it once it keeps asking
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Snailcats have accepted LLMs but still snailcatting
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>>110273728
This is smart. I am too lazy to do it, but I have had claude go into other folders to check how I do other projects for its reference without asking me first. It wasn't an issue but there is stuff I rather it didn't start poking around in. I suppose the reverse solution could work too though where you have certain folders that cant be accessed without a password of something?
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My game I've been vibecoding mostly with Opus 5.5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXwu6tZhKiM

You can play it free: https://weswaregames.itch.io/hamburger-hill
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>>110273753
if you have auto approve everything on it will always be able to change things in a dangerous way on.

if you use omp.sh, it has a restricted folder feature where everything in said folder(s) require explicit permissions
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>>110273728
i gave codex full access and when i get it to modify my android app it corrupts my desktop icon cache, im sure its fine
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>>110273786
in fairness, windows handling of desktop icon cache is fragile
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>>110273806
some days every icon has a speaker icon, other days an archive icon, other days a red X
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I lean more and more on Fable for complex design decisions. Opus actually writes better code with fewer mistakes, but Fable is much better as a collaborator and keeping things as simple as they can be. Like netcode for muh game; I'm aiming for clock sync over network, "sampling" high frequency signals like player actions, delta compressed deterministic gamestate with parity encoding, fountain coded resync snapshots, and hacking together bounded accuracy for physics objects with forced resync and rewinds as fallbacks. Bespoke datagram formats, cross-platform timers with ~nanoseconds and ~microseconds resolution, client/server structure fitting my needs; I've learned Fable minimizes my headaches juggling these requirements and actually lets me have milestones in days rather than weeks.
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>>110273779
heya anon, good to see you're still around. i saw some japs on xitter reposted your work
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>>110273828
big model smell, unironically. doesn't matter if fable's older by a few months if opus's neurons don't even activate in the right places.
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>go to claudecode reddit to see if there's any news about new model
>every other post is complaining about opus 5.5 becoming dumber in the past couple of weeks
>think "that's weird, i didn't notice that, and no one on /vcg/ said that either"
>look inside one of the posts
>it's a jeet prompting claude like "u do wrong. remove thing pls make no mistake sar"
Reminder that the AI isn't dumb, you are. You need to be high IQ in order to utilise AI fully.
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how do i get opus 5.5 to stop bitching about copyright? i'm trying to vibecode a port of an already decompiled game, but it keeps stopping dead in its tracks because it doesn't want to recreate an existing game. i know there's a way around this because i see new vibeslop ports every day
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>>110273883
use gpt or (uh-oh!) argon, once claude flags something as a heckin' nope you'll probably never get it to comply

https://explainx.ai/blog/claude-code-tengu-heron-brook-server-side-rule-blocks-recreating-existing-video-games-github-issue-106167-what-is-reported
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>>110273883
come home, white man
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Holy fuck, I'm going insane waiting for my usage to reset. It feels like I wasted three days when I could have made so much progress.
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>>110273881
>>110271339
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>>110273881
Its just shinny new toy effect, you see it in local too. Everyone will talk about how amazing a newly dropped model is at first, but people will slowly complain more and more about it over time. Only difference is you are hosting it on your own computer so you cant (easily) come up with conspiracies about it being made dumber over time.
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>>110273952
I know this conspiracy theory sounds legitimate, but it is built on the idea people forget their initial experience with the model when that is clearly not the case and people complain about this all the time. It seems much more likely that they just reduce compute to prepare for the new model and reduced compute makes models look stupid.
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>>110273964
account based in germany so you know he's not lying

https://x.com/AIMind_Ai/status/2119373785904148487
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opus 5.5 still cooking like a god for me
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>>110271920
it really looks ai slop. lmao
so many inconsistency.



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