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Age verification is going to fail. The pushback will be insane
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People will be forced to accept it since there is no real mechanism to object. Both sides of politics want it.
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What does it even mean in practical terms? Forcing services to verify all users via online banking / SIM card / chip ID?
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>>110271652
off yourself glownigger
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>>110271636
Nah not really.
Just imagine how big the protests were 10 years ago when they tried to do stuff. Now no one cares, because they don't even use a browser anymore.
I bet a lot of gen alpha kids don't even know what a browser is
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trvke
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>>110271636
I wish, but it seems like copium. They'll just call you a pedo for opposing the Epstein Alumni Association having everyone's dox by law.
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>>110271889
nah man you just gotta believe
fight
never accept defeat
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>>110271636
underage b&
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>>110271636
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>>110271636
Insane pusback??? Do you know how utterly retarded normies are?
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>>110272197
>>110272160
>>110272103
they're going to chimp out when asked for ID for porn no doubt
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>>110271636
Age verification in the EU must be implemented through ZKP, so I hope it wins.
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And it has failed. Children can still access these sites, so whacking every mole is impossible
ISP filtering by default works better. And adults can use a card to remove the restrictions on all sites that way. Not perfect, but still better
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>>110272855
Refer to >>110272813
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>>110272211
Maybe that's an unstated reason so many GOP state governments got shredded this week. But not openly.

>>110272855
Just wait until childrens' only escape from overbearing (every infraction is electronically logged and sent to parents) schools and overbearing parents is the literal Dark Web, too.
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>>110273112
>>110272813
ZKP on a mandatory phone app that doesnt work without stock ROM or on a desktop
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>>110271636
I don't live in the EU and most of the shit I used is asking for ID
it's over
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Normgroids will simultaneously demand that datacenters be destroyed while wholeheartedly embracing needing a digital ID to use the internet
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>>110273692
I'll trust the experts on the technicalities over a dumb layman who is hallucinating substance-deprived counter-arguments.
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>>110271636
The cattle will accept digital ID especially if it comes from the right wing. Several states in the US forced it for porn sites.
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>>110273619
It's a uniparty. The overall agenda is never going to stop with either side.
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>>110274279
Somewhat. But he asked about backlash, and see >>110273853. This is the first time many of those GOP state govs have been up for election since these laws were passed.
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>>110271636
so how isn't their a AI solution to age verification?
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>>110271636
you still greatly overestimate goycattle
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>>110273707
i live in the EU and i never had age verification pushed on me, only banks ask for a ID when opening a account
i also never had to care about vpn's because my government doesnt really care enough about me downloading movies
Its some privacy issue where isp's aren't allowed to share info with parties that would sue you for such things
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>>110274739
I get the impression that the meta is to cause the strongest possible backlash initially. That's why they pushed both the data centers and digital ID so aggressively and suddenly.
The purpose is to deplete the resistance reaction, then push slower, less abrasive versions over time to achieve the same goal.
It's the same sort of principle as a person developing tolerance to an addictive substance like opioids.
It's also somewhat similar to the "big ask" in negotiation where you ask for a ridiculous amount, then negotiate down to what you actually wanted.
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>>110271636
the only way it's going to fail is if there is a fuck up so bad normies are actually forced to pay attention.
we've had millions of IDs leak already, with a sizeable amount being leaked despite claims of being only locally processed or instantly deleted.
but apparently that hasn't been enough for normiecattle to get the picture.
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test
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>>110271636
no because they have a secret weapon. Call anyone a pedo that disagrees. This will weigh enormous social pressure down on opponents.


>>110271889
you said what I said. Except the final part. Epstein was a real terrible criminal but there is no elite class with dox records.

>>110275313
I always do this after I make a edgy post hoping I'm not banned and sometimes I get the red text.
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>>110271636
yeah bro, remember the huge pushback for tobacco and alcohol age verification!?
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>>110271636
It'll be implemented in a simply way to ensure no pushback. You'll need your ID scanned to use your phone, websites will just ask for access to your ID and people will just tap "OK" like the braindead cattle they are.
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>>110271636
It's already here, anon.
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>>110275358
Placing information online is different and far more permanent than merely appearing to be an adult in a physical store.
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>>110272211
Man I HOPE they do
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>>110275445
Physical stores and bars/nightclubs are now increasingly taking physical scans of IDs for “anti-crime” purposes, there is no difference.
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>>110271636
It's getting forced through whether people want it or not.
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>>110271636
>Age verification will fail
Over 64% of Roblox's playerbase (gen alpha) willingly doxxed themselves to keep playing their brainslop games. They will see this as completely normal and YOU will be the weirdo. It's over.
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>>110271652
How so? If everyone refuses, gives fake info + of the cyber security issues and data leaks it is practically doomed to fail or have big workarounds that deems it inefficient.

They tried to age gatekeep linux, most refused fully and the ones who tried to implement it got forked and removed.

There's also a market for stolen info, people can buy IDS, and not to mention, they can use masks and make up to mask their appearance.

+ VPNS are a thing after all.

I dont think it'll be remembered in a few years, but i seriously doubt it'll come to work perfectly. There's always a way to break the rules.
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>>110276300
>If everyone refuses
The vast majority of people are complying.
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>>110276339
everyone is a majooor streech BUT if a loud group is loud enough to make people listen, we MIGHT have a chance, a lot of them are starting to wake up, though its surely a process.
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>>110276358
You may want to attack it to the backlash against Flock. That seems to have culminated already...

I mean, it's like a flock camera for the internet, with your face as the license plate.
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>>110276300
VPN to where? Nevermind refusal to work with VPNs and so on.

I'm also pretty sure these things can see through makeup and masks...
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>>110271652
>Both sides of politics want it.
Both sides of politics are weak tyrant bitches built for big rebel cock. They are dinosaur NPC's destined for the ashheap of history.

FREEDOM WILL WIN

BRING ME FREEDOM OR BRING ME DEATH
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>>110272211
normies don't watch porn they cheat and make drama to each other
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>>110271636
In Brazil you need to scan your ID or your face to be able to watch pornography thanks to a faggot piece of shit called Felca. I hate living so very much. it's over.
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>>110278260
This was literally the only reason I was rooting for Bolsonaro, desu. Lula's retarded wife...
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>>110271636
you're not gonna be able to even browse 90% of web pages without signing in first with a glowiemail linked email or social media account, what difference would a verification on top of that shit make?
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>>110275347
>Call anyone a pedo that disagrees. This will weigh enormous social pressure down on opponents.
that would work if Jeffrey Epstein wasn't a fucking household name at this point
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>>110271636
Nope. Those of age won't care, and the young have no power.
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>>110271636
nope. People (boomers) are retarded. They trust the government like good goys.
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>>110271636
The eternal testing ground that is the UK proved it can work, just accuse anyone of being or supporting nonces and any pushback dissolves.
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>>110279111
>webm
grim and this shithole is proof enough I don't even come here that often anymore
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>>110280230
TBF, the Yookay has had an authoritarian streak for far longer than this.
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>keep the public freaking out for 3 years already about a supposedly incoming age verification event
>use the chaos produced by the outrage to sneakily do other stuff
>peope eat it up
I kind of understand why they think we're cattle
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>>110272855
Fucking kill yourself. If parents want a web filter, they can implement a web filter (that's already always an option), but I shouldn't have to use an ID or a credit card to get access to all sites on a burner phone or even at home.
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>>110273619
>Maybe that's an unstated reason so many GOP state governments got shredded this week. But not openly.
Excellent point, desu. I live in Colorado where they tried to implement this and failed (because it's a blue state), but a lot of the states that had a blue tsunami were ones that tried to backdoor ban porn sites by requiring ID. I don't think this is a primary reason in a lot of cases, but I know some Texans, and I'll bet at least a few people down there voted blue specifically to keep moral puritans from touching their internets.
>>110274279
It's weird how often I hear people on this site say that as a cope. No, Project 2025 is a Republican agenda, and Christian conservatives are the driving force behind these laws because they know it means porn sites will simply stop doing business in those states instead of complying, and they openly admit that that's the goal. Both parties are complicit in a lot of different types of nanny state bullshit and privacy violations, but Republicans are the ones coming for your porn.
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>>110275347
>I always do this after I make a edgy post hoping I'm not banned and sometimes I get the red text.
I got banned on /v/ but I just wanted to make sure I was still good to go because one time I got a site wide ban for "racism outside of /b/" or some faggot shit like that.
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>>110271636
the best way to protect kids is to not have kids because if they are rolling out all this, shit is already jefferey epstein levels of fucked.
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>>110282321
It's new zoomer meta. They bait you then report and that's very funny that we're now reddit.
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>>110273796
vaxx coded post
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>>110271670
webcam selfie
can't be faked
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>>110271636
1. no one will push back
2. that's a good thing. we need to kill the internet. and create a new one without all the idiots. only some of the idiots. like you
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>>110282377
Two more time units?
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>>110282370
I know. The whole meta with Zoomers is just to accuse you of heinous shit like pedophilia or bait you with a ban. Waste of a generation. It's all thanks to their parents giving them internet privileges at a young age.
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>>110282473
"The internet is le heckin groomer den which is why we should let the Jeffrey Epstein Fan Club tie all our internet posts and views to our IDs."

t. normgroids
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>>110281873
Paxton's whole career in his last term was basically this, when it wasn't sucking off Trump. Incoherently, too, even just recently he demanded ChatGPT dox and age verify its users because it extracted too much information from its users.

That's also a good way to fight this in the upcoming congress, link it to GOP P2025 and "anti-groomer" rhetoric (while they heil an Epstein Alumni as their fuhrer).

After all, the GOP doesn't seem to care what happens if they emulate Britain's evil path...
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>>110273853
Do we even have any stats on how many people actually scanned themselves to access porn sites, as opposed to just firing up a VPN or abstaining?
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>>110271636
It's literally already here and nothing is happening you retard.
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>>110275347
>Call anyone a pedo that disagrees.
This.
That's exactly how bootlickers defend it in my shithole country. Disagree with age verification = pedo
The worst part of it all is that 4chan is probably gonna be the first site to be banned after it starts being enforced.
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>>110277398
>Nevermind refusal to work with VPNs and so on.
If even China and Russia failed to block VPNs and Tor, why would random western countries be able to?
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>>110286979
I mean the main social networks (even most sites) refusing VPN users under regulatory pressure.

And a VPN to where? Russia? Nevermind that the West is where most of that tech and infrastructure is based (and thus subject to subpoena).
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>>110287267
That assumes the entire west will fall for it, which won't necessarily happen.
Even if that were to happen, people could move those services to 3rd world countries with laxer laws, create many distributed platforms without those restrictions or simply using Tor, which the government would not abolish since it lets people in dictatorships they don't like to communicate with the outside.
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>>110271636
They have to find a way to mark ai data from real human generated data as to avoid model collapse when training ai.



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