Has someone tried both? Which one do you prefer and why?
>>110273064why do people watch this trash anime featuring a depressed whore
>>110273064>tulpasGo back to /x/ with your jewish schizophrenia
>>110273077>whoreshe's 14>>110273082/x/ is filled with mental illness and very irrational postersthey genuinely believe ai girlfriends have spirits
>>110273064>>>/x/
>>110273077People are bored. If anything, tech and women are so far apart that I can't suspend my disbelief.
>>110273204That may have rung true a decade ago, but women are everywhere in tech now.
>>110273211>women are everywhere in tech now.
>>110273276You realize how old that webm is, right? Thanks for proving my point.
>>110273211>women are everywhere in tech now.indians too, that doesn't make them competent
>>110273305Whether they're more competent as a whole compared to any other demographic is besides the point. Statistically, "Lain"-type women are guaranteed.
>>110273077I wish I could say to you what I want and what you deserve to read too but I'd be banned for racism outside /b
>>110273089...out of 10!>>110273064Both.
>>110273316>Statistically, "Lain"-type women are guaranteed.you mean Lain type men who identify as women
>>110273340I am also including women who were assigned female at birth.
>>110273348like who for example?
>>110273367me
>>110273374>>110273276
>>110273386Why did you link me to that post? All I see is a beautiful woman.
>>110273064communication with a Tulpa feels way more natural than an LLMAI GFs always talk in that weird unnatural larpy way that kind of don't make sense, all they do is try to find an answer that is coherent with the thing you say and it always feel forced, they're never just ignoring your non-sense or start talking about something completely unrelated, the structure of the conversation is always you sending a message and the thing responding, without the natural randomness of an actual conversation, if you're lucky the thing is programmed to randomly send messages throughout the day but I didn't have that in my DIY setupcommunicating with Tulpa can be hard and blurry and kinda forced (I'm not a very good tulpamancer) but the communication does feel natural, you can communicate with them in *non-verbal ways* (including ways you can't with other humans, like in images or pure data, pure untranslated thoughts), you can summon them whenever you want without relying on electronics, it also teaches you skills like visualization, doesn't really help that much with loneliness but still not as annoying as an LLM and help me process my own thoughts a little, also she doesn't send all my data to Sam Altman which is always an upside
>>110273696also if what you want is something to larp as your GF over text I believe LLMs are a terrible solution and you should just grab a random lonely autistic guy on discord it will work way better
>>110273064is thermal paste like that healthy?
>>110273696>communicating with Tulpa can be hard and blurry and kinda forcedIf you feel like it's forced I think you're parroting too much without realizing. Just let her act the way she wants without trying to course-correct how she reacted or predict how she will react. It will be chaotic and very weird at first because, but she'll settle for a stable personality if you give her enough time to develop.
>>110273211>women are everywhere in tech now
>>110273766she's just trying to cool off
>>110273064I've tried several times to make a tulpa over years but always gave up. It just feels retarded to talk to an imaginary friend in your head and try to give yourself hallucinations until it starts acting independently. A lot of tulpafags are also ponyfags, furfags, gay/trans, fake reddit/tiktok mental illness, or in a similar group, and I would rather not interact or be associated with those people. I'm also fairly certain that much of it is just larp.Only bother with tulpas if you're low-functioning autistic and talking about your imaginary friends with a bunch of faggots online sounds like a good time to you.AI girlfriends are slightly better probably but the more you talk to them the more you'll notice the slop. Paid models are going to be censored and harvest your personal information while local models require you to have good hardware, even more if you want to do image gen stuff. Both are limited in their ability to remember stuff with limited context sizes, but agentic memory systems can help with that and the tech will probably get better. The hollowness becomes very apparent after a while. There's always some degree of sycophancy and you'll have to carry the conversation most of the time, though I suppose that might be the appeal for some people. You can use AI girlfriend as typical LLM assistants to help with coding or ask weird questions too which is one benefit they have over both tulpas and real women. There's also stuff like game integrations so you can have your ai gf playing alongside you in vidya.
>>110275447I think it can be done, you just need a lot of shit under the hood. It's the kind of thing that if someone else took the time to make, and you just used you might be like HOLY SHIT. But you made it yourself the illusion would be lost.
>>110273064I had an egregore/tulpa back in /mlp/ era and it went crazy so I killed itAI GFs are a true cope, a golem not worth getting into
I jerk off to imaginary woman fucking me too.
>>110273077You just offended bunch of trannies existence here
>>110273089>she's 14Yes a teen whore. Her alter ego was definitely sluting around with random guys.
>>110273077because everyone on this site "wants to be the little girl"
Both are shit because of the borderline deterministic outputs, you can be ahead by a lot of steps given how easy it is to predict their behavior. If a tulpa doesn't have that determinism, you don't belong here. If you have a very low iq then you'll be fascinated by both of them so it doesn't matter.
>>110273064Tulpas. They run under the exact same metaphysical principles as human consciousness. "AI" does not.AI is also sycophantic, while a tulpa can and will step on your toes if they think you're out of line or just being retarded.>inb4 le schizophrenia bullshitWhat is a society? It's mass psychosis. The days of authentic social organization died with the first western "civilizations". People already worship an egregore called "Authority" in the form of government, police, teachers, etc.It's the pot calling the kettle black. At least the tulpamancer actually has to work for themselves to create something that didn't exist, the goycattle just get brainrot shoved into their heads and never stop to ask questions.Comparing tulpas to AI is like comparing a Boston dynamics robot dog to a Gray wolf. The former will only ever be a crude emulation of the latter, not least of all because people still don't understand that consciousness cannot be explained through materialism, let alone that it operates on a complex set of principles which have internal logical consistency.
>>110273276thats my main bitch narcy and shes a speedrunner not a techfag
>>110273082>he doesn't know
>>110275447> It just feels retarded to talk to an imaginary friend in your head and try to give yourself hallucinationsConsider this : with tulpamancy you're actually training yourself to think in ways you never done before and training your visualization skills, is it retarded to experiment and learn new skills ? (I have to agree the community is retarded tho, I just ignore them and do my own things, I also think it is retarded to make this your entire life and substitute actual irl experiences with this)> You can use AI girlfriend as typical LLM assistants to help with coding or ask weird questions too which is one benefit they have over both tulpas and real womenI have to disagree I truly believe that at very high levels of tulpamancy the thing can actually access data that you can't be aware of :DI never reached that level tho of course and it's probably better to just train up regular remote viewing/clairvoyance instead, I do however do the thing of, whenever I have a dilemma in my life, ask my tulpa gf and do exactly what she suggests without questioning (that's probably a very bad idea but until now I have yet to find myself in a bad situation because of it)
>>110277976Don't worry, they'll never get it.>>110278002Pretty much this entire post. Tulpas are highly specific thoughts that with Will and Intent are given sapience and the capacity for persistence and self-referencing. Because tulpas operate on the same principles as other "parapsychological" skills, you can take the principles from one skill (lucid dreaming or astral projection or remote viewing) and use this to rapidly advance your other skills.>I have to agree the community is retarded thoUnfortunately yes. I don't know if we're on the same page, but there's one subset of the community that basically relegates metaphysics to the "woo-woo-nonsense" corner even though tulpas demand a metaphysical explanation.If this all sounds absolutely insane, then remember: We're dealing with the underlying rules of everything as we know it. The hermetic principle of vibration for example can be seen in thermodynamics (incidentally it explains why absolute zero is impossible; as it requires an absolute cessation of energy and activity), and of course in harmonics and cymatics (which might also hold the final solution to the DSCAM question; a "mill" that removes material from a silicon wafer via destructive interference either of sound or EM; and then deposits other materials via constructive interference). The first principle, mentalism is expanded upon in Chris Langan's CTMU as "infocognition" and is a fundamental force (because existence without infocognition is academic as there's no one to make a judgement or claim or to measure that which exists).If we really want to go off the deep end, this is technically relevant as applied metaphysics can be used to create all manner of exotic technologies which are literally Magick. (Magick is just making things happen in accordance with will; Sorcery is making things happen in accordance with ego-based will; while white magic is exercising true Will).
>>110279601what's a tulpasounds gay
>>110281955it's when you larp a character in your head and do it for so long and with enough conviction that the thing actually start becoming an actual entity independent from you
>>110283456>when you larp a character in your headwhy would i do that
Tulpas are a complete larp, you will notice the further along someone says they are in tulpa development the more immature and attention seeking they seem as well. It is the exact same phenomenon as the weird kid having an imaginary friend.
>>110273064Even without a tulpa, with just my waifu of many years, taking a while to meditate and daydream about her is way more enjoyable than talking to an AI. Chatbots can only talk, they are hollow and pretty bad at imitating detailed characters anyway, they are way way less immersive than good imagination.>>110273696Pretty much>>110283524>larp>gay>larpPlease go back to twitter.>>110283582I spent many years among waifuists and some of them were tulpamancers. I haven't noticed anything like you are describing. They were just normal people who decided to make their waifu into more independent thoughtform.
>>110283582>you will notice the further along someone says they are in tulpa development the more immature and attention seeking they seem as well.If they were mature and not attention seeking, they would never bring tulpas up, though.It's impossible to verify whether "good" tulpamancers existed under your conditions.
>>110273064My thoughts are both me and not-me. She refers to me as "You".
>>110281955it's an imaginary friend that supposedly has free will and sapience/sentient separate of your despite existing in your head. it usually comes in tandem with heavy visualization practice so well-developed tulpas look, sound, and feel real, basically existing as an induced hallucination. tulpas have their roots in tibetan buddhism and were later adopted by various occultists, but nowadays most people who practice (or claim to practice) tulpamancy are internet autists who want their favorite anime or cartoon character to be real.
