why do they do such half backed shitthe proled will be forgotten as a failed experiment and millions of retards will spend 3k on a failed product
not comparable to touchbar.windows has half-backed touchscreen support since a decade and yet every windows laptop will have a touchscreen. economies of scale actually make touchscreen oled cheaper. sourcing non-touchscreen oleds would be more expensive.
>>110275565did you see what they did the the menu bar because of the new island instead of the notch? the menu bar is now even thicker than before
Touch bar was actually kinda cool, just not worth replacing the function keys with it.
>>110275565lmaoing at the salt in this postI'm not going to buy this one specifically because I don't need to replace my m3 pro, but from what I've seen the screen is great. my only dislike is it being a touchscreen>failed experimentfrom the same retards that seethe that apple doesn't innovate. there's something magical to people that make hating on a certain brand their entire personality
>>110275565It's not a big enough change to truly get fucked if it doesn't catch on, the screen being OLED changes nothing dev-side. Touchscreen at worst is redundant, you still have a touchpad and keyboard to interact normally.You'd only be truly fucked if say, they decided to go "you don't need a touchpad, you have a touchscreen", then dropped touchscreen support later on when you got used to the new workflow.
>>110275641It has to be thicker for the touch features but not apple pencil because you need a way to justify the existence of iPads
>>110275705No it is not the problem that it is a touchscreen, the problem is that nothing is optimised for that
>>110275805You will also be fucked if the hinge breaks because it wasn't designed for that interaction with the device.
>>110275955>It has to be thicker for the touch featuresbut what about the macbooks which don't have touch features, like my macbook pro m4 pro? I don't need this thick ass shit menu bar
>>110275981I mean for me personally, having a touchscreen windows laptop in the past, the screen being touch enabled is a con even if you don't use it.but nothing is optimised for it _yet_. they just have to convince adobe to add a couple gesture to their apps, add something to their own (logic pro, pixelmator, etc) and it's justified. it's not like other apps would benefit from touch other than pinch to zoom and vert/horiz scrolling
>>110276081I saw a video, I think it was tech nigger, saying that e.g. the context menu is different depending on if you clicked with a mouse or tapped with touch, the latter having more spacing between items and more "mobiley" overall.so I expect the same level of thought for other elements as well
>>110275955it's thicker so that windows can't overlap the magic island, just as it's thicker so that the windows don't run into the notch.the ipad is a terrible product and the variety of apple pencils are a symbol of that.
>>110276081taller menu bar has nothing to do with touch. menu bar needs to be taller to fit the dynamic island. if you don't have a dynamic island, it's not taller.
>>110276560thats the probleminstead of every app optimised perfectly for the excellent touchpad, now everything will will add or modify to cope with this cuckscreenas windows and gnome (lol) had demonstrated for the past 10+ years, this shit doesn't work both ways
>>110277354don't talk about things you know nothing abouthttps://developer.apple.com/touch-on-mac/https://developer.apple.com/documentation/appkit/adopting-gesture-recognizers-in-your-app>Replace mouse-event overrides and tracking loops with gesture recognizers to support both existing mouse behavior and touch input on a Mac with a touch display.so gesture recognizer does all the work for you and gives you mouse and touch input.
