Is it true that RAM prices are inflating because the price setters are simply allowed to inflate the price and not because of some notion of the "supply and demand" myth
DIY component prices are entirely up the whims of middlemen and not bound by economic laws
>>110276453if the suppliers can get away with raising the price without losing money due to lost sales, that is because of high demand
yes, ai servers have nothing to do with thisand demand never affects prices, this is basic economics
>>110276453No, it's That AI and datacenters are willing to pay the higher prices.And yes RAM companies are artificially creating a shortage.
>>110276453yes there are only 3 RAM makers on the planet and they all meet up and suck each others dicks
Inflation can be hidden through enshitification or shrinkflation but only in certain things, like food produced in the US or other places where currencies are hyper-inflating
these cat pictures so annoying areram prices increasing be so hardware you own dont
>>110276533wasnt there a shortage of semiconductors before AI became a thing?
>>110276453For prices to go up, somebody has to pay them.Unless the ones selling the ram specifically fund the ones buying the ram (reducing the price for just them) there is no way around this really.Consumer RAM is probably pretty elastic. People just buy less if needed.I feel like if businesses were kicked out from buying RAM after being long time customers, it would be accounted for, but whatever.
>>110276453It's likely because the government is pouring so much tax money into these corps, government always causes inflation in everything
>>110276453I just sold 64gb of ram for 1k aud and I feel bad for whoever bought it.The only good thing that can come out of this imo is support for older hardware and lower min/max requirements for games and tools. Even if the AI bubble pops I dont see the costs on these things going down unless Chinese hardware starts getting more reliable
>>110276453Supply and demand allows them to inflate prices. Additionally, they can collude, but it'd only take one company to produce excess RAM, hoard it and then suddenly drop prices to fuck all of them over while also winning lots of market share, so collusion is unlikely.
>>110276453yeah it's a monopoly like situation, masons are like a giant circlejerk of rich people, like when in a game discord there's a group that dictates how to play it, but applied to the real world
>>110276453Didnt the openai wafer agreement “demand” turn out to be a non binding contract? Real demand is getting squeezed as there is now a manufactured shortage, a ram bubble.
>>110276453Do they not teach economics in school anymore? Supply & demand doesn't work with monopolies.
demand is just population size plus need in a non retarded economy
my theory is jews saw stuff like The Will Stancil Show and shit themselves and decided goyim cannot be allowed to own computing hardware anymore. so they jacked up the prices and used "AI Bubble" as a narrative.
>>110276453The free market will fix it... in a few years.
>>110277465> sold 64gb of ram for 1k aud I’m kinda tempted to sell mine, but i have grown attached to the RAM.
>>110276453yes, and more importantly, the same is true of the price of money itselfit's a myth all the way down
>>110277465>support for older hardware and lower min/max requirements for games and tools.not happening because optimizing code isn't seen a valuable anymore
>>110279258Yes it is, thats my whole point. Theres no point to a gamedev setting maximum specs at a 5090 now
>>110276453Yes.
>>110276453It's collusion and the USA is currently not interested in regulating monopolistic or antitrust practices because they're busy setting up their next president for the purpose of breaking the "oldest elected president" record for a fourth time in a row after the Biden upset prevented them from just cycling Trump and Biden for an easy 4 elections, so now they need to find someone old, pliable, but not openly senile (or at least not more openly senile than anyone over 80 with a social media account).>>110276484If no one takes advantage of high demand to produce more supply, that is because of collusion.>>110276867They collude often, but it's a bit of a boom and bust cycle, because new things create more demand followed by semiconductor companies upgrading their production to meet demand.The problem right now is that AI slop is a bit of a Ponzi scheme being bought on debt and semiconductor companies not only have a good excuse to not upgrade their supply because demand might evaporate before they can sell it, they have a customer that will just take out any amount of debt to purchase their existing supply even if they don't upgrade their production.>>110277506They colluded back when there were more of them.
