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Bulbasaur Edition

>UIs
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
KritaAI: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Forge Classic/Neo: https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classic
InvokeAI: https://github.com/invoke-ai/InvokeAI

>Image Models
IL: https://rentry.org/illustrious_checkpoints
Anima: https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
Krea: https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo
NovelAI (paid): https://novelai.net
Moss: https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image

>Video Models
H3: https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3
Turbo lora: included above

>How to generate anime:
image : https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
video: https://rentry.org/wan22ldgguide (No H3 guide yet)

>Style Explorers
Anima: https://anima.mooshieblob.com/ | https://animadex.net/
Illustrious: https://tagexplorer.github.io

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://tensor.art
https://openmodeldb.info
https://www.seaart.ai
https://www.liblib.art/

>Resources:
Share Metadata: https://litterbox.catbox.moe
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Online metadata viewer SD/NovelAI: https://spell.novelai.dev
Catbox/Metadata Userscript: [Gist] README.md
Output cleanup: https://rentry.org/RemovingDiffusionGunk , https://www.mediafire.com/file/vipr23exc5htmnt (batch processing python script)
Inpainting Guide from an Anon: https://files.catbox.moe/fbzsxb.jpg >>106520607

>/adt/ logo:
https://files.catbox.moe/pakfgt.png
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pov: you are going in her cringe collection
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Cute Pokémon, OP.
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>>110277059
Oh yeah? Well, she's going straight in mine.
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>>110277059
I thought only men took creepshots
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>>110277059
But why.
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>>110277256
It's not a creepshot when women do it. Duh. They can do no wrong.
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>>110277363
Woah, flashy background. The middle steel beam out of 3 visible on the far glass doesn't align with it's neighboring beam. Sorry for gay post. Girls are cute too.
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>>110277363

Cool composition, anon. I will align my steel beam inside Chloe
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cuteee ~ >>110277571
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>>110277037
>bulbatroon OP
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>>110277684
Cool gen anon, like the hag of last thread, which model? I smell Krea
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Tomoyo's collection must be something.

>>110277744
>The middle steel beam out of 3 visible on the far glass doesn't align with it's neighboring beam.
It's very sloppy construction. They just randomly bolted it there. I'm suing those contractors right now.

>>110277757
Thanks.
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NovelAI sometimes can mimic an artist's style excellently, but sometimes even for well-known famous artists it completely fails and produces garbage. Is there anything I can do about this? Trying to do like "vibe" or image2image often goes very poorly, but maybe I'm not doing it right.
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>>110278034
NAI v5 feels a lot like NoobAI vpred. It's very unstable so people just keep using whatever prompts happen to work for them, that's why the NAI avatarfags here almost never change their style.
The staff aren't much help either, Raezulo and Uragan don't seem to understand their own model well and the metadata they share is a sloppy mess.
I asked in their Discord because the same and Raezulo gave me a lazy Gemini prompt to describes a style in a paragraph, which you then paste into NAI and it obviously failed badly, you can't capture a style from 1, 2, or even 5 images with a text description alone, that's just not how it works.
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>>110278140
Damn. Is there any hope of future models being a lot better? I know for general AI people are like shouting ASI in 1 year, but is there much hope for better image generation or do people feel like what we got is as good as it'll be?
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>>110278034
the nice thing about AI is that there are a lot of models out there. if one doesnt do what you want you can use one that can. and if none can you can simply train one to
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>>110278034
Vibe and style reference are only available for V4.5 which has kind of a very stiff look. I hope we get something like that for V5 soon.
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>>110278140
>Raezulo and Uragan
Those are not staff, just random users.
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I'm desperately trying to find inoffensively generic style tags.
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>>110278205
https://nax.moe/?gallery=danbooru-artist-tags-v5
Maybe this helps?
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>>110278034
I think it's only trained on one of those booru websites, a shitty one. It needs to implement sankaku, pixiv, and exhentai if it really wants to become a master at the anime style, but must be careful to not include AI-generated images, which sometimes people don't tag properly so it might end up getting trained on a few.
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>>110278196
I don't buy it. Those two just spend all day in the Discord helping beginners with errors. What a cucks if true.
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>>110278205
The artist format is "artist:catjak"
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Hmm, medium_complexity is useful for comic/flat styles but otherwise makes things ugly. low_complexity would be used with flat_color and vector_art and otherwise makes things ugly and might need -0.5::muted color::
That being said, I haven't watched much anime this year, and skimming through some modern episodes the backgrounds are obviously more detailed than the characters.
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>>110278205
And tag weighting is 0.5::artist:catjak ::,0.7::artist:anistudio ::,
You can also 0.5::artist:catjak, artist:anistudio::,
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>>110278321
seemingly unnecessary most of the time in nai
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>>110278239
'Sup slopbro?
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>>110278331
>>110278205
I like nai tests, thanks anon
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>>110278369
Because it helps your propaganda that it looks like people are using it?
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>>110277059
Cupses
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>>110278452
The thread?
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>>110277363
>>110277979
I really like the eyes and skin of your gens. What model and artists?
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>>110278358

guten tag
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>>110278140
>you can't capture a style from 1, 2, or even 5 images
Train a Lora, dumbass
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>>110279178
>train a lora
which naifags can't
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>>110278140
>that's why the NAI avatarfags here almost never change their style
Present company not included, I'm assuming
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>>110277582
Neat art style, anon' what's the prompt?
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>>110278034
Seems to be an issue with AI in general. Gippity has its own issue with that. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The "big ones" like Van Gogh for example usually are spot-on but with Francis Bacon for instance it's hit-or-miss. Picrel was using five reference images of his but didn't really come close at all. Pure NL (using just his name and/or a description of his style) is a coin toss.

Also, poor 'beni, can't even truly relax in a pool.
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>>110278239
Uoh, brown tummy ToT
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>>110278034
Similar artists at low strength, primary artist at full or near full strength at the end of the artist conga line
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>>110280023
GPT slop is expected, it's corposlop. NAI was supposed to be the artistic one, but they trained it to please no more than the 50% + 1 of their customers, who are casuals and don't know shit.
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WHEN ARE WE GETTING BETTER LOCAL MODELS

NO KREA2 AND MOSS ARE NOWHERE NEAR GOOD ENOUGH

LOCALS ARE ABUSED AND NEGLECTED

>>110279072
YOUR GENS SUCK
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>>110280460
No one is pretending local models can stand up to NAI unless you're scatjack
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>>110280469
meds
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>>110279953
>prompt
Is not NAI anon, it's local
Krea 2 cui_ lora
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>>110280515
>it's local
You still use prompts locally, anon.
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>>110279009
NAI, the artist mix was originally a bit of a shitpost, but I ended up liking it.
>0.75::depthness, year 2026, artist:solipsist, artist:krekkov, artist:waterkuma, artist:deadnoodles, artist:yunsang, 0.5::artist:quasarcake::
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>>110280552
Cunny ToT
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>>110280552
noodle misspelled but not yusnag..
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>>110280573
>a bit of a shitpost
Like I was saying...
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Reminder for local anons: https://howlonguntiltimer.com/how-long-until-2027
Noob 2 is coming at the end of the year
52 days until local anime is saved!
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>>110280536
In Krea, the LoRA does most of the work for the anime look and everything around it. Multiple characters and everyday objects like cars and composition is easy.
Did you use the normal Krea 2 template in Comfy? It comes with a local VLM attached that upsamples your prompt for the model.
Once you have the LoRA, you can give that same image to the VLM, have it write a prompt for Krea 2 and then you have what you need.
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>>110280713
>Did you use the normal Krea 2 template in Comfy?
I don't use Krea at all locally, just Anima. But good to know.
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We have an emergency I need local NAI I cant goon to localshit anymore
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For me, the NAI gen that mindbroke me was this one, there was no way I could ever do this locally, then I went to look at their website and it was just all so simple point and click shit. After that, I could only cope and rage, it was like a grief stage until now where I've basically accepted local sucks ass
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>>110280469
>YOUR GENS SUCK
Not wrong, but he's probably new so I will be nice. Still, it takes talent to make any model look deep fried, I mean, how do you scroll past a wall of artifacts and thought "yeah, this is good." Then post Anima > Illustrious while posting that. Nobody here lets that slide on their own gens but he does it and I don't think it's on purpose either, I doubt he meant to put his character sitting in some kind of Escher thing or any of the other stuff that was already discussed with him.
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>>110280936
Good desuarchive search, that picture is from a real AI artist. He has a Danbooru page and CivitAI LoRAs made of him and NAI picked him as one of their model testers. Not a good example.
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>>110281048
That was an anon from here dumbass, that pic is literally uploaded by him. Holy shit I'm not even going to discuss with you lolcows anyway, live in whatever delusions you want I've seen enough.
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So all the good gens ITT are made on NAI huh...
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>>110281075
But that anon is a recognized AI artist and no longer browses here, I was there when he posted that you schizo faggot. At least he has some knowledge of the general you are shitting up.
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*have some
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>>110281048
That screenshot basically has all you need to reproduce something like it, other than the style. It's not like it's a complicated prompt.
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holy shit just the fuck up I can even point the last thread NAI gens alone and you would still argue about it so it's pointless. do whatever the fuck you want I don't care
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>>110281130
yours is more accurate to the prompt since girl1 is actually looking back with the grin and lidded eyes visible, which the first one just totally ignores
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>>110281135
Nonny, are you okay?
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Don't follow me here, dumbass
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>>110279422
>>110279422
I have no idea what you are trying to say, doesn't matter though, you are the Takofag and I can spot your style from a mile away no matter what character or setting you gen.
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>>110281048
>real AI artist
You lolcals are really embarassing. I've sold better NAI gens and I don't go around pretending im a real artist. No, you're not a real artist for plastering all your loras across civitai. Useless junk. Frankly the day you fuckers realize effort≠art we will all move forward into the future.

>>110279072
This guy probably spends hours deepfrying this bullshit on his 6GB card and we don't call it art.
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is the novel ai leaked model obsolete?
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>>110277582
Thanks cui_, you made these NAI shills look ridiculous. Blessed gens.
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>>110280536
>>110281239
So what you mean is that this krea lora is overfit dogshit that would spit the source image even if you prompt "asdfksl" and thats why you didnt provide one, you say?
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>>110281238
>is stable diffusion 1.4 obsolete?
.........
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>>110277059
better enable hdr, bitch
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>>110281238
Better than NoobAI but localkeks couldn't reverse engineer it to figure out how to train it further it.
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>>110281276
what is the modern equivalent? anima?
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>>110281328
Locals have the problem of ego, and they've edified a whole community around it: civitai.

Its no different to social media retards constantly doing vapid shit for attention, in this case, its loras, fine tunes, datasets, whatever the fuck they can get an ego boost from with as little effort as possible. If just a few of them got together to train a single good model things would be different (like they were when ponyxl and illustrious came out, the closest they had to a competent dataset).
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>>110281346
yes just give it a try
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I would like to promote a new type of micro bikini. Please watch.
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>>110281384
I do wanna prompt a three piece bikini tho, so you can take off left or right bikini top for breast feeding
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Can c*tshit stop shitting adt?
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>>110281402
With triforce bikini, you can breast feed without taking it off.
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>>110281384
Lore appropriate and lewd, nice combo. Catbox of her wearing it (with the nipples poking through those holes)?
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>>110281441
I posted it on /h/
>>>/h/8979333
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>>110281404
If it was catjak he would be defending local and how he's a master prompter o algo
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Why are people praising the algorithm lately?
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>>110281384
>>110281458
CUTE
>>110281210
In a rare occurrence of self control, I had a page of "sfw" Rolls in several art styles
>takofag
I'll have you know she's a great little tradwife despite the brain damage
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>>110281458
Very nice, anon, looks great on her! Thanks.
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>>110281346
>what is the modern equivalent? anima?
Hassaku MOSS
https://civitai.red/models/3042737/hassaku-moss
>The model was trained on a small but dense dataset of 120k images,

>New gen Anime finetune podium:
1st place in the Krea 2 line with 196000 https://civitai.red/models/3042006/krea-2-anime-tuned
2nd place Hassaku Moss with 120k images https://civitai.red/models/3042737/hassaku-moss
3rdplace Mossrael with 68,000 images. https://civitai.red/models/3031912/mossrael-moss-anime-finetune
4th place SlivaniMix MOSS with 23,000 images https://civitai.red/models/2530372/slivanimix-moss-imageanima
5th MossAD with 3,685. images https://civitai.red/models/3016505/mossad-demo-moss-image-danboorue621-57-artist-style-finetune
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>>110281535
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>>110281535
all of this is slop
anima-base is all you need
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Hi Catjak >>110281475

When will you confess that you are a mod and stop shitting up /adt/?
We never had problems with local in first place!

Thank you very much!
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>>110281357
>If just a few of them got together to train a single good model things would be different
Yeah just $50-$100K in rented compute, no big deal, and then even if it turns out well, you still won't pay for it. But "why won't someone just do it", right?
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>>110281535
>All 1girl standing "finetunes" made by who that probably barely know what they're doing
grim
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>>110281572
Hi Catjak

Yes, you are shitting up adt since you dont have a NAI sub and your gens suck.
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>>110281572
Yep that's him. Rangebanned my ISP and all the local towers too, but I guess it's a limited power of his because 'registering' a burner email account works fine. All for the 'crime' of telling him to stop being a hater.
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>>110281572
Why he does this? where we can protest?
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>>110281626
In the IRC channel
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>>110281636
Yes, protest against catjak, dunno how that relates to local being shit, but go for it.
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>>110281622
I wanna see this dumb nyagger bullied (sexually). Maybe seeing how many tiles can fit in her butt.
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>>110281594
I would pay for it tho? I'd crowdfund a model if I knew it will include the stuff I want as dataset (which novelai does, BTW).

But locals are just a bunch of avatarfagging moeshit milquetoast faggots that only know gachaslop, thats the REAL problem anon.
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We need less talk about schizos, and more cute gens.

>>110281622
Cute!
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>>110281693
True and cunnypilled. I'd smooch every square inch of that body. Including the lil' bump in the shadows, don't think I didn't see that, anon.
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>>110281729
>don't think I didn't see that, anon.
I'm a bit of a blind person myself, to be quite honest.
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>>110281693
What model?
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>>110281880
That girl reminds me of miyazaki
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>>110282066
It's the little witch, isn't it?
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>>110282047
I dreweded it in Jasc Paint Shop Pro. (it's nai)

>>110282066
>>110282075
It's Kiki, yes.
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>>110282135
Cute!
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>>110282122
>not 5m in mspaint
gitgud
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*subs*
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>>110282764
Wait until it's out. He'll say that two months before it's out.
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Local anime community is just zoomer slop for kids that played 3 gacha games and never even touched real manga or anime in their life.
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>>110282849
can't share Anima luckies on blue board...
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>>110282849
Can NAI make a front-back image pair for a keychain?
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>>110282907
I dont even mean anyone in here, just browsing civitai gives me that vibe. It wouldn't hurt to put a limit on how many checkpoints/loras users can upload weekly. Ofc civitai would loose money out of that tho :^)
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>>110282934
Dunno, I wanna generate images in the style of mangakas and doujin artists, not kawaii tik tok slop
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>>110282940
civitai is jeet central bro
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>>110282047
>>110282122
Lmao, every time
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>>110283004
fr
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>>110282849
Every hobby has a casual majority and an experienced niche. Local diffusion is the exception, because here owning the means of compute are what separate pros from casuals. Anyway, NoobDiT, MOSShaku, please don’t fuck up, please don’t fuck up, please don’t...
>>110282934
anime_girl__semirealistic-shading-lora_eyedetailer-lora_puking.jpg
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>>110282934
literally just
>ai-generated, dogshit quality, 1girl, fat ass chibi hatsune miku in the ugliest slopped up anime art style imaginable, front and back view, white background
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>>110282934
Seriously, how do you get an SD1.5 aesthetic with good hands and feet at the same time? Ideogram at least deserves credit for being the starter of the bbcox.
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>>110283100
kek, forgot:
>5 steps (out of 50)
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>>110282764
*tops u*
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>>110283180
*ACKS you*
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>>110279953
Style is
https://civitai.red/models/2916411/oku-style-krea2?modelVersionId=3299371
Prompt is attached to the image in the gallery

>>110281239
They're not shills and they don't use NAI, they're just mentally ill trolls. NAI is very good by the way, there are just more reasons to use local in my opinion

>>110281269
Yes the lora is designed only to draw that one picture
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anyone have any tips for prompting with bounding boxes? just started to try it and it seems i'm so bad at it that i had a lot of things to even get it to sometimes respect them instead of ignoring them
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>>110283185
>ACKS
a cock kisses you?
hella gay, son
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>>110283245
>a cock kisses you?
Nah, rope.
Nice gen btw.
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>>110282940
>civitai
>character or concept loras that could be generated without it
>style loras of artists trained off ai gens
>style loras of artists that doesn't follow artist style at all
>human-to-x corruption loras
>on top of interracial previews with 10 loras per gen
>on top of website so poorly vibecoded it feels like they're mining crypto off you
I can't imagine what comes next after it's eventual death
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>>110283266
So what you're saying is civitai is similar to 4chan but with lots of sloppa
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>>110283230
trolls or no, you completely mog them and it's entertaining to watch them try and pick apart your gens with scalpels, through a veil of tears
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>>110283256
ropes of semen? that's too gay
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>>110283266
so civitai is the deviantart of anime diffusion?
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>>110283261
NAI character box can be AI automated THO
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>>110283272
>>110283292
civitai still has couple of kino trainers in the sea of curry
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>>110283230
>>110281239
cui_ the nai MOGGER
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>>110283100
Oh no! The NAI neckbeard "anime pro" shill didn't updoot my post! What ever shall I do?
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>>110283294
Hows that bad?

>manual character placement
>automatic self detection placement

And despite being called "character slots" they can be used for whatever I found, like an object or an action, example:

>slot 1 character
>slot 2 below character with prompt "footjob"
>slot 3 where slot 1's hand would be with prompt "handjob"

Bbox in comparison feels clunky and open source-y.
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>>110283320
You can always sub and atone for your sins, my child
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>>110283350
Gen a better fat migu in NAI and I shall consider your plea, maybe.
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Do you think Kurumuz is going to send a hitman after cui_ for mogging NovelAI this hard?
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>>110283261
Seriously, nobody touches bboxes except the IP banner.
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>110283388
It was real in his troony mind
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>>110283416
Xhe's just trolling. Just don't be bothered.
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>>110283385
Anon don't take those NAI "shill" posts seriously. Probably 90% of those posts come from this >>110283388 guy who for some reason hates this general with a burning passion and uses any means necessary to derail it and shit it up.
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>110283416
>complaining against troons
>in the /sdg/ + anime filter general
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>>110281227

>"I've sold AI gens"
>schizoes in a /g/ thread

sure thing buddy pal
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>troony(adjective)=complaining about troons
agitated, aren't we?
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>damage control
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>>110283444
You can do it yourself even. Just uploar some stuff to certain sites, and leave a patreon or ko-fi below. If your gens arent pure dogshit you'll get stuff comissioned. If not, you can always spam up civitai.
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>>110283230
>there are just more reasons to use local in my opinion
Like
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>>110283490

Trips confirm, buddy
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>>110283400
>社員 instead of 写真
close enough
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>>110283508
Lol oops
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>>110283261
I like character positions, they're easy to use. I don't know what's different with local's bboxes, is it just a UI problem that they're less popular?
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>>110283545
bboxes as the name suggests, bound you within a box, thats not how novelai's system works, so in that sense they are fundamentally different, its just local doesnt have anything else
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>>110283501
If you don't understand the benefits of not having your capabilities directly sourced by a third party then you're too retarded to be reasoned with.
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>>110283388
you know you can gen kanna reaction images, right?
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>>110283594
where are your hard earned capabilities of base model finetuner tho? Everyone depends on someone else, do not apropiate things you didn't do tho
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>>110283639
He can't gen.
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>>110283639
>Aged up
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>>110283688
comfyanonymous paid for my model retard, what you on about?
>>110283735
that's fine, we can gen for him
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>>110283755
bullshit, she's already old
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>>110283735
He can. His gen: >>110265741
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>>110283781
How do you know that's him?
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>>110283813
Some pattern recognition. You can consider this to be a schizo post
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What is /adt/'s approved MOSS anime checkpoint?
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>they forgot that I'm him
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So many pedos itt
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>>110283688
>where are your capabilities
Directly and uninterruptably on my computer.
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>>110283857

how do i drink this water bro
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>>110283872
The easiest way is to wait for them to get out first.
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>>110283853
despite everyone cranking their ac to 11, we only had 4-5 power outages this year, think only 2 outages since anima came out

>>110283872
it looks like windex anon, don't
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>>110283867
Having been mogged in the quality gen department, the NAI trolls proceed to sulk and moralfag about loli on 4chan of all places
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>>110283883

I see... What's the hardest way then?

>>110283895

I think you're just trying to keep it all for yourself, anon. Not gonna happen that easily
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>>110283903
milf tummy department, too, don't forget that
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>>110284032
If yapping and derailing is a sign of jealousy or insecurity, then the NAI trolls are the most guilty by a country mile.
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>>110283867
eeeh, anon, what'chu gonna do with an adult alucard gen anyways? hoping to get your rear blown out by his adult penis?
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>>110284106
but if someone wants to see 18+ characters then sure
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>>110283937
You don't wait for them to get out, obviously.
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without img2img'ing a Nano Banana pic
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using positioning instead
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>>110284136

ToT
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>>110284032
>>110284103
what did you just fuckin say?
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>>110284081
>If yapping and derailing is a sign of jealousy or insecurity, then the NAI trolls are the most guilty by a country mile
Sad but true.
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>>110284148
2girls... 2girls and you!
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>>110284374

literally me in the middle
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>>110283230
Thanks, anon. Nice Tintin parody, too.
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>>110283857
Clean lolis, nice. Second best thing after filthy lolis.
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how do i do the ass ripple / wave concept?
i tried twerking, ass clapping, ass ripple
nothing works
this was easy in illu
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>>110284444
Checked. And ask in the NSFW threads, I see that used constantly.
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>>110284134
>fish of the pond, what is your wisdom?
>"your panties are showing baka"

>>110284405
onee-shota tax paid, irs better watch out

>>110284444
nice quads, I'll figure out a way to do it because of them
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>>110283872
voraciously
>>110283883
but why though
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>>110284519
The real move is to just sip from the top while they're still inside you know.
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>>110283230
>They're not shills
What's the difference between a NAI-only troll and a shill? Just having to hear about NAI at all counts as shilling to me. You're asking people to not think bad about the company. But why is their image supposed to be my or anyone else's problem? Why should I care? Why are they entitled to be here on 4chan? I only see pros by getting rid of them, and zero cons because I'm not a shareholder. Just explain why NAI's PR is supposed to be our problem.
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>>110284604
Why has it been your sole problem in life for 5 years straight?
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>>110284501
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>>110284604
The trolls are actively trying to make people pissed off at NAI and NAI posters. I'm a NAI poster, and I would like nothing more but the "NAI shill trolls" to leave.
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>>110284643
>pissed off at NAI
Why is this my problem or something I'm supposed to care about? Why am I supposed to babysit a random company on 4chan?
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>>110284652
>Why am I supposed to babysit a random company on 4chan?
I don't know. Why are you doing it, filbert?
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>>110284604
>What's the difference between a NAI-only troll and a shill?
Because they'll switch off local vs. NAI if they get bored of it or they think it stops being effective. It's just the tactic they happen to be using
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>>110284661
This
Before that it was anistudio bullshit
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Theres like one guy butthurt as hell about NAI being so good and thats it, don't see any other schizo
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I just think that if I had an amazing tool that has such a superior advantage in a very competitive field, I wouldn't be telling others to use it in 4chan threads. In fact I would gatekeep it. I know NAI is good, I just don't wanna pay / have my genning capabilty at the whims of a certain company
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>>110284709
can you add more chromatic aberration bro
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>>110284709
Some people ITT might've used NAI for a while and don't wanna keep paying, but also cannot go back to local due to how low quality it is, so they just wait in here for something good to drop.
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>>110284754

>don't wanna keep paying?

isn't it the best thing since sliced bread? Why would anyone stop paying if that's the case?
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>>110284661
>because they'll switch off local vs. NAI
The problem is that this is a supposition based on nothing but wishful thinking. If it's not really a falseflag, the company rightfully earned its hate. And suppose it's a falseflag and they do switch to something else. What do we lose? "NAI looked bad for a moment" Is that supposed to be important? NAI's image is supposed to be my problem? Because that's really the only thing that the falseflag explanation does, it just asks you "don't blame NAI". Why is this company's image my problem? I can't see what else is there to gain from the convoluted explanation.
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>>110284776
Regular NAI posters don't wanna get shat on by association. Nobody could give less shit about the company itself.
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>>110284773
Easy. Because their current plans are dogshit. I dont wanna pay 25 bucks + 9 bucks every time I refill points (which btw looks really fucking dumb on your bank acc after like 10 refills). They have the best anime model, but their business model needs some working out to do.
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test
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>>110284776
>The problem is that this is a supposition based on nothing but wishful thinking
No, it's based on deduction and Occam's Razor. We are confirmably inundated with just generally disgruntled, mentally ill trolls. We are not confirmably awash in true paid shills. Shills are certainly a thing, but if they're being pointed at threads like this with only double-digit IP counts then their management is extremely incompetent

Explain to me how your position that it *is* paid shills is not wishful thinking
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>>110284576
Said it in the other thread, too, but man, these two go well together. S-tier lesbos.
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okay yeah kill yourself catjack
what an actual piece of shit
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>>110284844
>Occam's Razor
I don't think "falseflag" and "occam's razor" are compatible. The simple explanation is shilling.
>Explain to me how your position that it *is* paid shills is not wishful thinking
It's a company made by anons from another board. And you don't see this type of spam for any other company. They benefit from the forced relevancy.
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>>110284844
You will never be able to explain this to him. It's a somewhat infamous schizo/troll who has been obsessed with NAI for 5 years straight, starting from their text-only days. It's possible that he contributed to shitting the thread up as well, he's done it before in /vg/aids/ and /aicg/.
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Less schizophrenia, more cute gens.
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>>110284889
I also forgot that in NAI's specific case, they don't actually advertise themselves as a porn company in the open, they also don't publicly talk about copying artists. That's where shilling in 4chan is useful, the anon posting can't be traced back to them. You don't really get "you can pay this service for loli porn" anywhere else.
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>>110284927
If you are an actual paid shill pls tell them to make a 50 buck plan that includes higher steps/images in the refillable gens (I do not use trooncord I cant contact them)
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>>110284889
Okay so wishful thinking got it. noimgs not bringing their best as usual
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>>110284927

based lolianon
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>>110284889
>The simple explanation is shilling.
Not when, as cui_ said, the shills are far less voluminous than the any-tactic trolls.
>they benefit
No, they do not benefit from being painted as mentally ill trolls. You are either being willfully stupid or you're not arguing in good faith.
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>>110284941
I'm not, sorry.
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does nobody in this thread like boobs
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>>110284974
Maybe you can do it for me anyway bro, just hit em up on discord im not gonna make one just for that.
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>>110284927
>cute lolis practicing skinship, framed by lilies
Basado. Nice dimples, too.
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>>110284981
ew no
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>>110284976
10/10, would do light breath play with (as far as she's comfortable with).
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>>110284981

There's taste in variety, anon.

>>110284976

can we get loli sarada tho
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>>110284981
Boobs are nice though those are a tad excessive.
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>>110285037

hell yeah
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>>110285006
>loli sarada
So ... regular Sarada?
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>>110284945
I don't think the avatar is making your arguments stronger. The impression I got is that they just fell apart. It's also weird to care about the identity of the posters in an anon board. I don't need more than the words that I wrote in my post.
>>110284965
>they do not benefit from being painted as mentally ill trolls
I think they still benefit from being hostile if they don't have anything else. People are willing to excuse them as you can see. It's similar to that "any publicity is good publicity" quote. The actual thing to be scared of is being forgotten. Being spammed with ironic shitposts is better than actually dying of irrelevancy.
That and you get to ruin communities about local models, which are a threat to your business. You don't let people discuss that freely.
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1. If NAI did have shills they wouldn't be sent to a ghost town like this
2. Said shills would be intelligent enough to do a proper, subtle job of it, not just HURRR DURRR LOLCALKEKS MAD
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>>110285041

nonono, there's a distinct difference
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>>110284941
My bad I ment higher steps/resolution.
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>>110285043
>I think they still benefit from being hostile if they don't have anything else.
You are 100% not making any sense. Whatever position they are in, they would not willingly worsen it with this sort of behavior.

>>110285051
These too.
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>>110285050
We do? Did Boruto have a time skip or something?
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Thinking NAI have paid shills in here is schizophrenic behavior. Reminder that this is not a local focused general
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>>110285043
>avatar
I don't know why you'd misuse that word unless you were arguing in bad faith. I simply don't noimg as a policy. That's it. In this case it also helps to confirm I'm a localfag so as not to trigger your bizarre paranoia towards NAI
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>>110285071

I don't follow Boruto at all but last time I saw Sarada was like this and while she's still a loli, I'd rather have her lolier version
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>>110284981
i love boobs, especially when they're small and cute
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>>110285096
I wouldn't call that adult but I get it.
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>>110285051
What if it's their job to make it a ghost town? "Never let a community about local models grow" seems like a good idea if you think local models can steal customers. Spamming about how good their service is it's just the cherry on top.
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>>110284981
I like boobs, they're pretty cool.

>>110284982
I've seen people ask for that kind of thing before. I don't think there's much point in me repeating it.
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>>110285105
1. This was already a ghost town
2. These are not local threads, they're just anime AI threads which includes NAI

If you weren't a complete fucking retard, you would know that sending shills to a place like this is just a complete waste of money. And if they absolutely insisted on shilling here, they would be, you know, posting lots of good NAI gens, something these alleged shills (trolls) are not doing. Do you have some sort of fetish for looking like an imbecile?
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>>110285065
>Whatever position they are in, they would not willingly worsen it with this sort of behavior.
I think the basic mechanic is that you can't be a customer for a service you never heard of. The reason why "any publicity is good" is because there will be people that don't automatically believe what they heard or just think "I will see for myself". In this case, the spam is even talking bad about them. The "bad publicity" is the spam itself, which is a subtle thing to notice. What the lurker gets mostly is the "SotA" spam by an anonymous user that people could confuse for word of mouth. On top of that, you get the "falseflag" excuse that you can make because it's all anonymous posting. It seems there are a lot of benefits and little downside to this tactic in an anonymous forum.
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get fucked creep
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>>110285126
>I've seen people ask for that kind of thing before. I don't think there's much point in me repeating it.
Yeah well it was worth a shot. Some people ITT need to realize that NAI is expensive if you're gunning only for high res images, so they might not even be subbed anymore. Doesn't mean that im a shill for complaining about the state of local.
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>>110285166
stop being a schizo
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>>110285166
You're ignoring way too many arguments here. Just getting completely slaughtered.
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>>110285184
Never
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>>110285090
Aaaand I accidentally noimg
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>>110285166
Even if you have a point, have you entertained the thought that if more people see just how advanced NAI is, they stop wasting time with inane bullshit? Like fine tuning anima or moss? This might be why we even getting noob dit in the first place.
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>>110285090
>In this case it also helps to confirm I'm a localfag so as not to trigger your bizarre paranoia towards NAI
I don't care about who you are. I just wanted to untangle what's behind the falseflag excuse that you're trying to push. The only thing I got so far is something along the lines of "I don't want people to blame NAI". Which I still don't understand why it's worth the trouble.
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>>110277871
Thanks, it is anima aesthetic with "early, year 1990, year 1991, retro artstyle, anime screenshot, outline" heavily weighted.
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>>110285242
>don't understand why it's worth the trouble
By the sounds of it you've been at this for years, so what's this about "worth the trouble"? You are definitely coming off as untrustworthy and two-faced.
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>>110285242
>I just wanted to untangle what's behind the falseflag excuse that you're trying to push
No, I think you were just finding some way to lash out because this argument hasn't gone well for you, so you settled for "oh he's posted an image each time"

Anyway it's becoming clear to me you're something of a troll yourself so I'll stop here. Get some help dood
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I think I just realized what my problem with it is.
>I will spam about how good my service is
>If the spam makes me look bad, it's a falseflag
The excuse doesn't really benefit anyone else. And it tries to take away your ability to be mad.
>You can't be mad at me because that's what the falseflag wants
The only thing that the falseflag excuse does is to ensure NAI looks good in all outcomes. And the only thing to lose by ignoring it is that people will think NAI is a shitty company. It seems worth the supposed "downside". That's why they have trouble explaining in any other way other than how it benefits the company.
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>>110285297
you are now familiar with who ani is and how he talks
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NAI so good, it naturally creates mentally unwell doubters
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literally who gives a fuck which thing is better damn you guys are so fucking retarded
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>>110285431
anon..
people come here to be subversive and manipulate opinions.
they're not as dumb as you think (they still are pretty dumb)
they are nefarious and dishonest.
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>>110285381
It is, obviously, not Ani.
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>>110285379
>If the spam makes me look bad
It's not an if. It does. It is very, very, very, obviously done by someone trying to make them look bad. Possibly you, given you have shown dishonest behavior in this very argument.
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>>110285459
Why is the company's image the thread's problem?
Besides that, anyone that wants to genuinely hurt this company would simply stop talking about it, they're not relevant enough and would simply sink and be forgotten. They're 100% not worth a "falseflag" operation that consists somehow about talking about how good they are. The whole idea seems disingenuous and the only thing it buys is being able to spam without consequences.
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what is the best sdxl lora for cum
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>>110285577
If they're worth you being a schizo towards them for 5+ years they're worth being a tool of anti-AI trolls to be divisive.

You fucking imbecile.
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>opens slide general
>sees discussion has devolved to the point of anons openly defending NovelAI as a company
>keks
>makes this post
>closes slide general
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>>110285629
you can make it more western
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>>110285629
>hoyoverse
KILL YOURSELF
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>>110285756
let me guess, you only consume superior japanese franchises?
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>>110285844
I don't consume goyslop, thx.
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this one is for the loli purger faggot mod
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Be kind to your neighbours.
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>>110285991

ToT ToT ToT
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>>110285297
What's Ligma?
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>>110285931
Jannies = trannies
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>>110285991
Hot. You changed something in your meme mix? I like the eyes here, and the ear from behind.
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>>110286121
I keep changing the weight on quasarcake, sometimes a bit more or a bit less, otherwise it's the same.
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>>110286020
Ligma BALLS ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Your days are numbered.
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>>110286168
Yours, that is.
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>>110286235
Wild colorization. Prompt? Or is that just the artist?
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>>110286241
colorization? I made a dark-skin helper lora.
it's not a good prompt i had to roll a few times

1girl, dark-skinned female, ahoge, at computer, bed, bedroom, black skirt, black hair, chair, colored inner hair, computer, computer keyboard, computer mouse, curtains, desk, headphones, gaming chair, green eyes, green hair, hair behind ear, indoors, sweatshirt, microphone, microphone stand, monitor, multicolored hair, multiple monitors, on chair, pillow, pleated skirt, zettai ryouiki, skirt, solo, swivel chair, white shirt, livestream, raging, angry, open mouth, anger vein, facing computer, gaming, colorful headphones, rgb keyboard, rgb mouse, e-girl, holding game controller, dark room, illumination, back of monitor, "GAME OVER" in red text on the computer screen, (chubby:0.45), chips, empty soda bottles, crumbs
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very dark skin tag added
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>>110285931
This one goes out to Kishinon.
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>>110286323
Thanks, anon. Chubby is the artist, I'm guessing?

>colorization?
ESLglish (though it's apparently an unrelated technical term). I just meant the way it's colored, very flat with super bright/clashing hues. Seems to be the artist though.
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>>110286439
chubby is someone who has fat but is not obese
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>>110286476
Duh. I assumed it was the artist from formatting, I guess. So is this using whatever Anima defaults to then?
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>>110286501
kek
your gens are pretty fried though, ngl
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>>110286501
No one hates you, but you are the mascot of this general.
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>>110286587

If I post a gen and it looks like there's a remote chance that a human made it let me know so I can deep fry even more. Don't expect faggy line art and pastel colors from me
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>>110286597

>"silly anon, I don't reply to every single one of your gens because I care for you, I just think of you as the mascot of the general"
>"of course you are! Just because no one mentions it doesn't mean anything, you're mine- I MEAN you're the mascot of the general BECAUSE I SAID SO"
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>>110286598
>Don't expect faggy line art and pastel colors from me
It has nothing to do with that. I mean stuff like this.
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>>110286709

you mean the ((((ringed eyes)))))?
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>>110286724
I mean that that thing can't decide whether it wants to be spiral eyes, or ringed eyes, and what is a highlight, and what is a contour, and there a random molten artifact squiggles.
I don't hate the gens by the way, I think they're cute. I just find them fried if I look at them for longer than a short moment.
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>>110286782

It's fine man, you don't have to love it either. I like it when they look chaothic in an AI way. I just don't want to do things "the right way" where they look all clean and like if a real artist made it. I appreciate those styles, but it's not my style for sure. It would be sadder for me if my gens went ignored every day because that means my work wasn't even worth hating, but here I have anon-chan supporting me everyday!
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>>110286501
Tsundere anon, hehe.
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>>110284661
Truthcute
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fresh
>>110287359
>>110287359
>>110287359



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