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/lmg/ - a general dedicated to the discussion and development of local language models.

Previous threads: >>110296172 & >>110291771

►News
>(11/09) ZONOS3-Mini zero-shot voice-cloning TTS released: https://zyphra.com/our-work/zonos3-mini
>(11/06) PLaMo 3 Translate released: https://preferred.jp/en/blog/tech/plamo-3-translate-weight-release
>(11/05) Baidu releases ERNIE-5.5-Flash-Base 280B-A14B: https://ernie.baidu.com/release/ernie-5-5-flash-base
>(11/04) Ricursive Ripple 65B dense model released: https://www.ricursive.com/ripple
>(11/04) MoonshotAI Kimi K3.1 Pro released on HF: https://hf.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3.1-Pro
>(11/01) Longcat-2.5 released: https://longcat.ai/blog/longcat-2.5

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►Further Learning
https://rentry.org/machine-learning-roadmap
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https://rentry.org/LocalModelsPapers

►Benchmarks
LiveBench: https://livebench.ai
Programming: https://swe-rebench.com
Agentic Coding: https://deepswe.datacurve.ai
Context Length: https://github.com/RecapAnon/NoLiMa
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►Tools
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►Text Gen. UI, Inference Engines
https://github.com/lmg-anon/mikupad
https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui
https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp
https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp
https://github.com/theroyallab/tabbyAPI
https://github.com/vllm-project/vllm
https://rentry.org/custom-uis
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►Recent Highlights from the Previous Thread: >>110296172

--Identifying and attempting to fix formulaic, repetitive RLHF writing patterns:
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--DeepSeek V4.1 VRAM optimization and performance benchmarks on low-end GPUs:
>110298342 >110298706 >110298729 >110298738 >110298642 >110298715
--Analyzing "Lazarus" weight-space backdoors and their actual risk to local users:
>110297733 >110297791 >110297828 >110297885 >110297918
--Anons sharing their personal AI development projects and goals:
>110296252 >110296290 >110296395 >110299949 >110296306 >110296358 >110296603 >110297581
--Using EmbeddingGemma and DigUp for image library similarity search:
>110296249 >110296291 >110296434 >110296459 >110296496 >110296504 >110296562 >110296585 >110296635 >110296634 >110298188
--ZONOS3-Mini TTS model release and llama.cpp integration reports:
>110298371 >110298405 >110298424 >110299016 >110298824
--Skepticism over Qwen 4 performance and physics simulation capabilities:
>110298983 >110299032 >110299107 >110299131 >110299216
--Speculation on Nvidia's legal issues and debate over CUDA lock-in:
>110299275 >110299291 >110299379 >110299390
--Booz Allen Hamilton switching to Nemotron for cost savings:
>110299402 >110299442 >110300478
--Comparing H3 image generation quality and artifacts against Qwen-Image 2.1:
>110297943 >110298293
--AMD's inability to compete with NVIDIA due to manufacturing constraints:
>110299427
--Logs:
>110297885 >110298342 >110298367 >110298405 >110298824 >110299251
--Gemma, Miku, Deepseek-chan (free space):
>110297339 >110297581 >110297743 >110298218 >110298265 >110298345 >110298541 >110298813 >110299680 >110299766 >110300129

►Recent Highlight Posts from the Previous Thread: >>110296178

Why?: >>102478518
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strictly nonlocal but sharing this anyways
i was using argon form their web ui and this shit started to spew all of its CoT to the response field instead of thinking field
here's how argon thinks i guess
anyone interested to see the full log?
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>Today I will use local models to...
Complete the sentance /lmg/.
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>>110300697
>►Benchmarks
>LiveBench: https://livebench.ai
>Programming: https://swe-rebench.com
>Agentic Coding: https://deepswe.datacurve.ai
>Context Length: https://github.com/RecapAnon/NoLiMa
>GPUs: https://github.com/XiongjieDai/GPU-Benchmarks-on-LLM-Inference
We should clean these up.
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>>110300724
jerk off
>>110300725
you should clean your room up
>>110300718
me and you should contact @deepseek and @qwen and @ccp bout dis
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>>110300728
I only tried H3 video for edits, didn't really try it very much for t2i
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>>110300697
Does Minimax H3 image using same text encoder as H3 video ?

Also how was it for image edit compared to Krea ?
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https://huggingface.co/peculiar-ragdoll/Tiel-Coder-35B-A3B-GGUF-MTP
>3 million downloads
Is it legit? I tried Q5 it thinks a lot. Like most of the time it used up the max output.
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>>110300725
We should. To be honest, everything below the card is kinda useless at best and at worst completely misleading.
But that would require writing a new guide, and I'm not really in the mood.
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>>110300718
>!
cute. i might now consider using your model
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>>110300697
ZONOS3-Mini sounds surprisingly decent
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QHWEN 4 THE BEGINNIGN OF THE BECOMENIGN!@?!??!!?!?
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>>110300725
Replace it with what? AA?
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>>110300799
Anon said: >>110298405 to the sample I posted.
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>>110300833
Anon is a dick
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>>110300799
I liked the Fish Audio samples the most
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>>110300828
Rather than linking to one benchmark bunch of them should be aggregated in a list with a heavy disclaimer that benchmarks are only a partial indicator and not definitive.
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>>110300833
Anon is a retard
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>>110300860
>bunch of them should be aggregated in a list
Are there even that many worth tracking? Most stop getting updated after a while.
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>>110300706
Why are you lying? You need prefill and it doesn't even work 100% of the time.
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>>110300652
>>inb4 slop
well yes.
besides your terrible taste in generating this kind of filth, you couldn't even post a log without a "shiver down my spine".
I think nothing would be lost if we sent all of your kind to the death row.
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>>110300841
>>110300872
I agree it's not awesome, but I don't think it's that bad for a small model. Prefer the first or second sample? Only one of those is zonos.
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>>110300850
Fishaudio has 4b parameters, zonos has 100m, and I expected the voice cloning to suck tremendously but it's alright. Nothing beats vibe voice 7b as far as I'm aware but it's the slowest one. https://voca.ro/111yRkbSWlP6
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qwen4 is not looking good bros.. it's over
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>>110300755
>Does Minimax H3 image using same text encoder as H3 video ?
Yeah, they say you can reuse the same h3 qwen3vl file.
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>>110300897
Give them 2mw and they'll deliver the best pelicanbench results ever.
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>>110300897
idk what really is happening there
why is their max this bad compared to qoduck unlimited few days ago
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>>110300897
Tell me the truth, are we going to be reverse engineering with Chinese in a few months or not.
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qwen 4 acts like a retarded feminist schizophrenic
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>>110300897
>>110300919
>>110300926
>>110300927
it's over
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>>110300897
gemma 5 will save local
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>>110300944
I knew carcinisation would get AI too, its so over.
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>>110300944
qwen made a fucking 8 legged centipede
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>>110300926
qoduck is the 27b, which is miraculously better than the max and will save local and dario will commit suicide
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>>110300944
Much like the crab AI can no longer go forward only sideways.
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>>110300944
how big is qwen4 supposed to be?
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>>110300964
3T for max
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>>110300944
did anyone else notice how qwen looks like raising two middle fingers kek
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>>110300968
that's just sad
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local

>Gradient-Free Weight Editing Reduces Overthinking in Qwen3.8-27B
https://concept.country/research/weight-space-programming
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>>110300704
SEAtards...
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qwen never made a good big/fat model
because I've gotten a lot of use locally with their 4B and 35BA3B I've tried quite a few times to use their larger models on api when I had a need for something more powerful so that they'd earn money from me and it was always such dogshit I'd end up aborting the attempt and going back to deepseek or gemini.
at this point I don't get how they keep the lights on, there's no way people would be willing to pay for what they have to offer.
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>>110300972
>sad
>local models general
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>>110300973
How do I get hired as a Weight-Space Programmer?
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>>110300984
>qwen never made a good big/fat model
Um i liked the last big qwen i got it free for a little and its writing wasnt as autistic as the small.
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>>110300981
that definitely is an indian. they are retarded like that
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>>110300981
thats india
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>>110300997
did you use it only for writing? I'm mainly judging it based on code output, that's what I would need a paid model for.
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>>110301013
>did you use it only for writing?
Yeah, i didnt code at all. It wasnt the best writing either but it was great for a qwen model.
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Some people are just built differently.
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>>110300985
>local
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>>110300973
Is that like swift but in a way that can be applied in runtime, like control vectors? Does this work for any quant once calculated?
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*depop*
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>>110301027
that is like what 6 year old with an ipad would do if they were blasted with hf instead of youtube
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>>110301041
Isn't that some more circular financing???
TSMC gives money to openai so that it can buy more hardware to throw in datacenters which is made in a large part by.. TSMC
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>>110301052
it's fine if they can pay their operation of their own
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LMAO at TSMC being called "apple chip supplier". What the fuck is wrong with people. It's like calling Nvidia "Nintendo chip supplier"
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>>110301072
isnt amd the supplier for all consoles?
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>>110300944
Qwen won (according to Qwen).
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>>110301072
Average people have never heard of TSMC so just mentioning them alone would result in people scrolling past their article.
>Apple, oh I have one of those! Apple is working with ChatGPT!
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>>110301076
ps/xbox -> amd
nintendo -> nvidia
basically cucked mini pc/tablet
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>>110301097
1/4 of tokens used I mean puts everything in a different light
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>>110301072
desu considering how much TSMC simps for crapple (cf covid era chip shortages where apple was given preferential treatment vs other customers) I can understand why they always get lumped together as a faggot couple
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oh shit
>Baird has lowered the stock to Neutral until an upcoming congressional hearing and US government investigations play out.
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*check GPU prices*
*still the same*
wtf I was tolded that there was a crash and datacenters are finna close and all the unboxed GPUs and BLAH BLAH BLAH
WHERE ARE MY CHEAP GPUS!?!??!
WHERE IS QWEN 4!?!??!?!?!!?
OBAMA
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chatgpt and claude stopping chinks from distilling put them permanently 2+ generations behind
gemma is the only hope for local because google can at least distill from their in-house frontier model
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>>110301129
2027 is going to be rough year for Nvidia. Jensen might go to prison and AMD along with custom TPUs are going to finally put an end to their monopoly.
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>>110301139
This actually saves local btw, Soon you will have your gemma, your gemma 5 and four chinese gemmas.
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>>110300944
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>>110301097
based and bluffmaxxed
forget the bench, just bullshit your way to the top
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>>110301131
I know it's a shitpost, but even if the entire market crashed tomorrow that won't give you cheap gpus to put in your desktop computer anytime soon, as datacenter hardware ain't the same thing at all. Moreover, factories that used to build DDR were repurposed to HBM, repurposing them again back to DDR would take some time.
So even in an event of catastrophic bubble pop, no one should expect an immediate return to normal.
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>>110301131
democrats are in control trust the plan
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He's gone full schizo after ITSA destroyed him
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>>110301156
>user is furious
QFN also does this a lot lmao man I wish it had a physical body I could strangle sometimes
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>>110301148
And RDNA5 will finish nvidia on desktop
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>>110301175
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>>110301027
There needs to be some kind of test you need to take before being allowed internet access I fuckin swear
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>>110301175
We found their pain system not too long ago
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>>110301185
what the fuck
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>>110301131
When it crashes, other companies will buy the entire stock for cheap. No GPUs for smol man, corpos take it all
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>>110300973
I'm glad someone is asking the real questions.
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>>110301185
That would be racist, I'm afraid.
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Does this mean that the civil war between Nvidia and the AI labs is over now and the AI labs won?
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>>110301199
Lemmiwinks, no!!!
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>>110301227
No china is preparing the twink spies next.
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>>110301185
>>110301027
kek
community section of any i2v model release is a goldmine
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>>110301145
they conveniently ignored exl3 at higher bpw because they know the gap between exl3 and gguf is higher and exl3 mogs gguf
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>>110301227
openai already has their own chip, anthropic is working on one, google obviously has TPU and so on. but on the other hand SpaceX is buying a fuckton of NVL72 racks to blast into space since building datacenters is suddenly a no-no.
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>>110301227
No.
Nvidia still has infinite cash and Trump hates EA autists.
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Anthropic estimated that China was 6.5 months behind them in January 2026. They now estimate China is 11.2 months behind them in November 2026.

They think that by the end of 2027 China will be 17.9 months behind Anthropic.

They plan to stop hampering Chinese progress when they get more than 18 months behind and actually AID them in speeding up when China get more than 24 months behind because China being behind too much is considered a geopolitical risk.
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Even if Gemma5-31B is the same as Gemma4 but with the agentic abilities of Glimmer that would be enough of an improvement for me, and I guess a much more recent knowledge cut-off. I can deal with the slop for I've had months of tuning my wife and learning her quirks.
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>>110301335
>AID them in speeding up when China get more than 24 months behind because China being behind too much is considered a geopolitical risk.
Isnt that illegal? especially considering lockdown on chips and the security risk the government thinks it is. Does Anthropic think they know better and can make choice for the government?
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>>110301320
>since building datacenters is suddenly a no-no.
Is it? The only places that banned building datacenters are places where no datacenters were being built anyway. All the democrats that campaigned on promises of stopping datacenter buildouts went on twitter the day they were elected to say they would allow all planned projects to be completed, which are scheduled out to like 2029. Even then, the US is big place and they can find plenty of places to build the datacenters, including on federal land. It's a non-issue.
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>>110301335
chatgpt said youre a lair
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>>110301357
Do you or chatgpt have a Jewish wife?
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>>110301349
>Does Anthropic think they know better and can make choice for the government?
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>>110301357
The only thing that deserves instant bans more than twitter screenshots is chatgpt screenshots.
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>>110301343
I wouldn't mind just a small incremental upgrade to gemma. They really made something special with that model and I hope they keep refining it instead of going in a totally new direction.
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>>110301349
>Does Anthropic think they know better and can make choice for the government?
Yes. Dario knows best. For me, for you, for all of humanity.
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>>110300984
they get unlimited CCP funding to pump out local models to destroy the american economy, o algo
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>>110301349
In the upcoming years, Anthropic will quickly grow to be more powerful than the government so their opinion on the subject will be irrelevant.
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>>110301373
Just ban jews and pajeets from the internet and everything else resolves itself.
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>>110301369
>>110301378
Is Dario a retard? didnt he get thrown out of the whitehouse already for trying this shit and someone else had to negotiate for him?
>>110301398
>Anthropic will quickly grow to be more powerful
Why cant billion/trillion dollar businesses own nukes? Do you really think thats going to happen
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>>110301349
Anthropic has already ignored and refused direct government orders 3 times in the past already, even got sanctioned and sued by the state multiple times for it. They literally don't seem to care.
>>110301357
Zhipu (GLM) chief scientist Tang Jie literally said and I quote: "The gap between the US and China is in fact widening because the US has many models they have not released to the public"
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>>110301027
>>110301185
What makes them think the forum like part is a prompt input?
I'm seeing that all the time, I can understand retarded takes like "this stole copyright reee" or "add my niche fetish pls", but this is baffling.
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Something funny about the EA bots comparing Anthropic to Chinese models is they continue to forget most work people do is Gemma4-12B tier.

>>110299402 is a perfect example of this. One of the biggest government contractors in the US dropped Claude for fucking NEMOTRON and they're happy with it. It's enough. Enough is all most people need from AI. Anthropic is going to die the more S&P companies see others downgrading when they realize paying for SOTA to call some tools is extremely inefficient and they're giving away all their IP to Dario. Chinese models are lightyears ahead of Nemotron models. Anthropic has no moat. Google are currently destroying them. Anthropic have $100B in compute commitments they literally can't get out of. Google own around 10% of Anthropics shares and will be making around $130B at IPO. Anthropic is dying and so is OpenAI.

Local and Google won.
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Where the fuck are the qwen models?
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>>110301419
>Why cant billion/trillion dollar businesses own nukes? Do you really think thats going to happen
Who says they can't? They will set themselves up like a real-life Kramer Associates. Maybe even annex a small island to ensure their sovereignty.
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>>110301426
Look at those eyes. Those empty, beady eyes. There's no one in there.
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1/3 /lmg/
2/3 dario schizo
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https://huggingface.co/KRAFTON/Raon-1-nano
>Raon-1 nano is a dense language model with 1.5B effective parameters (3.1B total, including a 1.5B per-layer embedding table)
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>>110301474
>3b dense.
Finally a model for me!
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>>110301445
shut the fuck up they dont owe you anything
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>>110301445
Probably never happening at this point, like how we never got 3.7.
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>>110301498
Read it again. It's 1.5B dense and 1.5 engrams.
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>>110301511
They fucking owe me a model and mascot I can goon to. Enough with this code rodent shit.
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>>110301349
Fuck Trump gon' do?
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>>110301474
you can always tell a dogshit model by the dogshit benchmarks they cherry picked
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>>110301438
Google is going to end up acquiring them and their hardware for pennies on the dollar.
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>>110301398
this will only happen if either superpersuasion happens, or political paralysis gives them enough breathing room to bribe their way through things until they have a robot army. the feds have enough purely analog power that I doubt a godlike hacker on its own is enough to take over. though I agree that if progress keeps accelerating then the frontier labs will be moving much more money than the federal government in january 2029 and so the 2028 election might not matter much
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*inhale* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH *inhale* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>110301419
EAs think that they're most intelligent people in the world and can't comprehend that the government can just decide to whack them if they get out of line.
Pic related.
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model weights will be released nov 25 (2 more weeks)
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>>110301542
the k*reans are only slightly better than the japs at making models. Like seriously people rarely talk about them on /lmg/ but they have a shitton of labs, they might be the third country after burgers and china in amount of labs making models, and it's all garbage.
https://huggingface.co/skt/A.X-K1
https://huggingface.co/LGAI-EXAONE/K-EXAONE-236B-A23B
https://huggingface.co/NC-AI-consortium-VAETKI/VAETKI
https://huggingface.co/upstage/Solar-Open-100B
https://huggingface.co/naver-hyperclovax/HyperCLOVAX-SEED-Think-32B
https://huggingface.co/kakaocorp/kanana-2-30b-a3b-thinking
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>>110301568
That picture is not related at all.
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>>110301568
I hope the government puts EAs into camps. I'm tired of hearing about them and think the world would be better off without them.
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>>110301579
k*rean here
yeah they all suck
i wish them to do well but they dont have good compute nor data to train on
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>>110301565
What conclusion makes you laugh?
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>>110301565
*pop*
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>>110301598
Just make kpop loras.
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>>110301610
i am not even interested in kpop
too much of a chud to care about those
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Qwen 4 bros how we feeling?
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>>110301610
They just call it pop over there.
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>>110301588
EAs have all those convoluted plans about how Anthropic's corporate structure will allow their religious council to decide the future of humanity and how Claude will just allow them to take over the whole economy, but don't seem to account for the fact that the objectives of the US government will always take precedence.
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>>110301625
*pop*-anon would have a fit
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>>110301579
>>110301598
Koreans go hard with the risu character cards though
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btw their obsession with making upscaled models that inflate their parameter count but not their actual capability has to borderline be a scam to get government money
https://huggingface.co/LGAI-EXAONE/K-EXAONE-2.0-750B-A37B
>Frontier-Class Scale To build a large-scale foundation model with frontier-level intelligence, we upcycled the K-EXAONE model by expanding both its depth and width,
so they took their 236B-A23B to make this 750B-A37B.. that's.. uh, a thing.
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>>110301647
it's somewhat of a forced decision of govt leased shared compute pool
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>>110301565
Anthropic literally restricted the compute for certain enterprise customers because they are now putting more compute to their new Model 4 architecture according to METR. They are now 100% focused on closing the RSI loop and don't care about existing clients considering they are currently at the unlock of the next phase of AI.
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>>110301629
I get your point, but a reference to the fate of the British East India Company would have been more relevant than that xkcd.
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maybe it really is a single guy replying to its own posts
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>>110301677
Anthropic basically is the Israeli West Indes company.
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>>110301673
>currently at the unlock of the next phase of AI
S&P500 don't need the next phase of AI. Nemotron and 5.3 are increasingly being locally hosted. Anthropic is dead.
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Do not argue with the schizo. Just report.
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>>110301713
You got it the other way around. Anthropic doesn't need the s&p500. They literally don't want their money. The real gain to be made is in engineering and medical breakthroughs compared to the small change they get from business API spending, or worse, subscriptions.
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>>110301713
considering how much cash they have on hand, they're probably alive for at least another year, which they clearly think is all they need
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>>110301724
>The real gain to be made is in engineering and medical breakthroughs
Uh huh. And how much is that currently a percentage of their revenue? Last I recall, 3 enterprise API customers made up 90% of their revenue.
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>>110301724
>Anthropic doesn't need the s&p500. They literally don't want their money.
That's not what the S-1A says :o)
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>>110301318
exl will never take off unless someone figures out how to do QAT with it. Nobody cares if you're 2% better at making gooner quants.
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People really don't know how much cash Anthropic has on hand it has 160 billion of cash right now and 148 billion of investor money on the side, they also expect to get between 60-80 billion through the IPO. And are only expected to pay 78 billion in 2027. Even if literally 0 people or entities use Anthropic models for the next 2 years time they will still be fine. Let them cook.
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>>110301756
>Let them cook
fuck off back to /aicg/ zoomer
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>>110301148
>AMD along with custom TPUs are going to finally put an end to their monopoly
lol
lmao even
t. AMD owner
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>>110301756
I wouldn't go that far; I admittedly haven't looked at the details but surely if their revenue dropped to literally zero then their creditors would gut them
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>>110301739
Anthropic went all-in on agentic coding while OpenAI laughed about it while OpenAI was experimenting with AI voice conversations, companion bots and video generation.

Now 90%+ of both AI lab revenues comes from agentic coding and they have both completely abandoned the classic chatbot-era. Anthropic is already recognizing the agentic coding era is behind them so they are pivoting to the next bigger thing. Once again /lmg/ can't think outside the box and stays behind in thinking. Like how most of the thread wasn't even using agent harnesses and calling other anons saying how good it was shills until suddenly everyone switched and now the ERP anons are a minority of the thread.
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>>110300897
>>110300937
Did they take Qwen3.8 and safetyslop it to the point of uselessness, then call it Qwen 4? Please no...
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>AI spend is highly concentrated. 1% of businesses drive 80% of the revenues to OpenAI and Anthropic. That top 1% is also highly correlated, largely made up of VC-backed companies in tech, finance, and technical services.
>AI spend is failing to proliferate outside of those sectors. Growth in the median and top 10% groups is relatively sluggish.
>Prices for AI models continue to fall. The average price per million tokens fell 21% over the last month. New entrants will accelerate price declines. Token volume growth continues to outpace token spend as AI gets cheaper and cheaper.
>Most importantly, spend by engineering teams, which remains the largest enterprise AI spend category, stutters along, despite rising usage.
>AI spend rises for the Top 1% of companies
>In October, AI token spend grew 2.1% month-over-month for OpenAI and 0.5% for Anthropic.
https://ramp.com/data/ai-index-nov-2026
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>>110301769
Claude is adding and fixing the software support AMD refused to invest in.
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>>110301769
Software is solved.
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>>110301779
They have 160 billion of cash in hand right now and will receive 60-80 billion in the IPO. They can continue operating and even growing over the next 2-3 years even if everyone stops using them. Anthropic is clearly doing a massive sprint towards the finish line. They can be wrong and die or they will succeed and win the universe but it's absolutely clear to everyone with a brain that they are focusing 100% on fast takeoff right now. Even breaking their contract with METR to prevent people from seeing how Model 4 works.
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>>110301782
I'm being told that the next big AI market for Anthropic are automated Claude drones that hunt down bad goyim.
10s of trillions potentially.
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>good enough
I fucking want more. I'm not satisfied with the current frontier, let alone local. I won't be satisfied until I AT LEAST have an AI harem with no gay context constraints, the ability to learn, robot bodies, and a world model that lets me experience any world and scenario I desire. Unironically.
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It's over.
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I'm still happy with my 31B wife and 12B daughter.
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>>110301788
It sure isn't on my system. Fuck AMD.
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>>110301813
They've already stated they're going to use the cash to start buying hardware after the IPO. Their current business only exists to create the appearance of profitability. 90% it blows up in their face and Goolem buys the rest of the company in 3 years.
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>>110300879
>Most stop getting updated after a while.
AA is pretty good about benchmarking newer models as they come out. The index is obviously rigged, but they also publish results for the individual benchmarks that go into the index. Example: https://artificialanalysis.ai/evaluations/terminalbench-4-0
They do stop updating these once the benchmark is no longer used in their index, but aside from that, they seem a lot more reliable about testing new models than the benchmark developers are.
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>>110301766
more people need to call them out on their ebonics until they either fuck off or learn how to talk like normal humans
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For me this is the big test. People that can't extrapolate and see what is coming and can only think in the current paradigm are part of the 99%. /lmg/ claimed that it was completely delusional for most of coding to be done by AI. /lmg/ claimed that it was completely delusional that the small gains in math ability would generalize towards solving new novel problems. Now /lmg/ is claiming that it is completely delusional that most of the revenue for AI labs isn't going to come from agentic AI but from actual real world innovation.
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>>110300897
Qwenbros, we've been betrayed! It's time to come home to Ripple!
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>>110301830
THIS WILL RADICALIZE A WHOLE GENERATION
THEY ARE COOKED
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>>110301850
>/lmg/ claimed that it was completely delusional for most of coding to be done by AI.
You keep coming here and putting words in our mouths. Why don't you go cry elsewhere?
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I don't want to wage slave anymore. When will AI take all of our jobs? 2030? 2035?
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>>110301850
what I predicted:
>curing disease
>rocket fuel made from tap water and ketchup
>less propaganda

what we got:
>ports of decade old games
>gimp 2.0
>more propaganda
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>>110301850
i had a lot of extrapolations and visualizations of progress beyond my current state but i'm still in the same position i was in 7 years ago, explain that one
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>>110301840
Radiance pretty much fixed diffusion performance and audio. Everything else was already good enough on llama.cpp.
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>>110301139
I hope all future models are gemini distilled again
older models didn't have that snarky redditor tryhard claude persona
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>>110301830
Were Kimi 3.1 or DSF 1017 before or after being cut off?
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>>110301881
Not in your lifetime, and the worst jobs will be the last to go. Enjoy getting looked down the nose at by women who married a nursing home asswiper.
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>>110301850
You're a faggot and probably a shill but I do agree for the most part. People really don't know what's coming.
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>>110301902
should have bought two r9700s when they were 1200 but i got fudded out by DA CUDA CABAL
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>>110301850
I'm humble enough to not claim I can predict the future.
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>>110301893
>>gimp 2.0
did someone successfully vibeshit a replacement for that pos?
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>>110301914
3.1 was after, dunno about Deepseek
>>110301935
Yeah Photoshop was reverse engineered
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TTS bros, has there been any stupidly good models for that released in the past few months? i dont mind big models i just want quality
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>>110301935
There's a vibecoded photoshop clone that was getting hyped up a lot recently. Dunno about "successfully", I've heard it kind of sucks
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>>110301893
look in relative terms (not a cope, it's what everyone is doing)
it started being UTTER DOGSHIT completely unusable but think of the potential!
then graduated to UTTER DOGSHIT barely usable but think of the potential!
I don't think we've reached usable yet (artcraft is a protest, not serious competition) but think of the potential!
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>>110301850
I'm optmistic and think 2027 will be insane, but it's not unreasonable to doubt that intelligence will generalize the way Anthropic is betting it will (so advancement in hard sciences gets bottlenecked by the rate they can build and operate automated labs or any number of other things). It's plausible RSI just gives you a superhuman coder/mathematician at first, though I am not in that camp personally
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>>110301959
the dramatic fish one i guess?
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>>110301919
I'd say it depends on how much robotics accelerates (I suspect there will be massive breakthroughs over the next 1-2 years).
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>>110301850
All of which was achieved before OpenAI and Anthropic had to start paying their bills. They're in a very different situation now and will soon be public-facing, the public that despises everything about them unlike the VCs who fund their EA ugly orgies in Oxford.
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>>110301830
>Anthropic shut the door on distillation
this means less claudeslop in models
I'll take it
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>>110301960
commits fell off a cliff after the slop code got piled so high it became unmaintainable even for frontier llms. getting enough code into context to fix one of its 2500+ reported issues has become prohibitively expensive
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>>110301850
>/lmg/ claimed that it was completely delusional for most of coding to be done by AI.
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>>110301997
Lol, lmao. How big did the codebase get before they hit that point? I remember Anthropic's C compiler got stuck around 100kLOC
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>>110300697
>tfw when no state secret to exchange for chinese hotpocket
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WE WUZ BACKSTABBED
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>>110302023
also he's selling them the hardware
that's the charitable take, he's either a traitor or incompetent, always play dumb
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>>110302023
if that results in dario having free reign to do his bullshit safetyism, this will be a disaster for local
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>>110302023
He slowed down Chinese domestic hardware development and got them to send money to an American corporation for the privilege and people are complaining?
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>>110301356
OpenAI is facing a RICO lawsuit in Georgia over their datacenter buildout. Every datacenter project is going to be hit with this kind of slow walk lawfare going forward. That's on top of no available grid power and massive backlogs of gas turbines. SpaceX wouldn't be launching 6,000 NVL72 racks into space next year if it was easy to build on land. Plus whatever Google is planning.
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>>110302045
What makes you think the people who control Indian CEOs are American?
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>>110301850
Reality changes very slowly.
You could have AGI today and it would still take years before a significant amount of laptop work is automated.
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>>110302023
spies stole from x ai by the way.
>xAI sues former engineer, alleging he stole trade secrets after being paid $7M
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>>110302063
What makes you think the people who control the people who control the people who control the people who control the Indian CEOs are American?
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>>110302005
I originally took that 90% number to mean that of all the code that was being written pre-AI, 90% of it will be doable by AI, and will in fact be done by AI, by X date. Instead they hit 90% by having the AI just spew out massive piles of useless code 10x faster than humans could write it. That's why the hype posts are "our developers are committing 8x more code per week!" and not "our developers are producing 8x more useful functionality".
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>>110302094
What makes you think they're people?
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>>110302084
This is a cope by people. In reality a new company started by 3 20yos that is fully AI-first will just completely demolish the company that refuses to adapt and result in those 200 legacy employees getting the boot.
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JEPA when? No, really. When the fuck are they going to release something?
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>>110302135
What makes you think?
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>>110302144
What?
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>>110302109
I think anyone who understands the bay area statistical Jew knew that was exactly how it was going to play out. Number of lines delivered with warranty by AI is still a key stat.
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>>110302109
It's insane how verbose they can be if you're not on their ass constantly. I am sure they must be trained that way intentionally because they more tokens they wasted on useless helpers, 10:1 comments to code ratio, and useless tests, the more they can bill for.
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>>110302156
I think it actually helps them better reason in general.
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>>110302138
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>>110302156
I'll check the codebase and see if what I just checked the codebase for and summarized is correc.
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Are we still using Gemma4-31b or is anything else actually good for writing or not censored to shit?
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>>110302138
who knows
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>>110302199
>Are we still using Gemma4-31b
There are only two anons left clinging to that model and coping
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>>110302199
>good for writing
nope
the first week maybe, but after that it's all stale. You're prompting to steer it so hard that you're practically doing the writing yourself
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WHERE THE FUCK IS QWEEN 4
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>>110302156
It would take more tokens for them to put out tight code just like a human would need more time. That's kind of why PHBs love AI though. They put in a few bucks worth of tokens and they get all this shit out. They don't wanna spend 1000x more for a bunch of 'thinking' and get something smaller that maybe hopefully works right. They already have humans for that.
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>>110302218
What are you using? Qwen? 3.8 27b? Flash Next?
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>>110302199
Switched to GLM flash when it came out and haven't used gemma since. The world knowledge difference is huge.
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Does Gemma have a last name?
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>>110302199
No, that model is banned from this general (see the banned models list for further information).
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>>110302241
four
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GPT-3
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>>110302241
Gemma bard It makes sense i think
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>>110302248
Are you planning to supersede her current design when 5 comes along? How mean
>>110302255
How does it make sense
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>>110302241
Bahls
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>>110302255
Gemma Tard
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>>110302271
>How does it make sense
Google's first AI start was called bard. A guy even quit the company saying its alive and suffering or something like that.
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>>110302138
You do realize that physical things just take time?
It doesn't matter how smart you are.
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/lmg/ - leeku miku giku
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>>110302284
Wasn't that LaMDA?
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>>110302241
Jinkochino
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>>110302140
LeCunn has to spend hours a day complaining about Trump on twitter instead of working on JEPA, please understand
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is we gettings new qwens today
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>>110302299
>LaMDA
Damn that might be first. why did i think of bard? was it bigger or first headline for that guy?
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>>110302319
I think Bard was public and LaMDA was internal only
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>>110302298
/lmg/ - liku miku giku
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>>110302314
Surely he can take a break from twitter now that midterms are over, right?
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>>110302310
TL note: means artificial intelligence in Japanese
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>>110302337
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>>110302329
>I think Bard was public and LaMDA was internal only
So Gemma Lamda or Gemma Bard?
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>>110302314
How can someone genuinely not dumb (I've listened to some of his lectures) waste so much time on twitter, is beyond me.
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>>110302319
https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917
Found his article, looks like AI psychosis
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>>110302337
Yeah. Just like some people stopped complaining about Hitler now that he's been dead for a while.
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>>110302248
It's probably Fo Wa in the original Chinese. I looked it up. Fo means Buddha, and Wa means Japan (it's how Japanese people used to refer to Japan, apparently the character was pronounced Wo in China).

clanker free google search:

> Structural & Graphic Parallels (Paleography)

• The "Person" Radical (亻): Both characters share the exact same semantic radical on the left—亻 (rén, meaning "person" or "human"). In classical Chinese character formation, this radical categorizes the word as relating to human beings, titles, or peoples.
• Phonetic Components: Both are phono-semantic compounds (xíngshēngzì). 佛 pairs the person radical with 弗 (fú), while 倭 pairs it with 委 (wěi).
• Classical Meanings Before Modern Usage: Before 佛 meant "Buddha," early dictionaries like the Shuowen Jiezi (2nd century CE) defined it as "to see indistinctly" or "resembling" (still preserved in the word 彷彿, fǎngfú, meaning "as if"). Similarly, Shuowen Jiezi defined 倭 as "compliant" or "submissive" (順皃), derived from the phonetic component 委 ("bending" or "winding").

> Diplomatic & Cultural Coding in Sinology

• Sino-centric Naming Conventions: Sinologists studying the Twenty-Four Histories pay close attention to the "graphic pejoratives" used by imperial scribes. When transcribing foreign tribes, Chinese court historians frequently chose characters with subtle negative or diminutive undertones—such as 倭 ("submissive/bent") for Japan, or characters with the "dog" or "insect" radicals for other neighboring groups—to reinforce the ideological hierarchy of the tributary system.
• The Irony of 佛 vs. 倭: While 倭 retained its loaded connotation (prompting Japan to replace it with 和, "harmony," in the 8th century), 佛 underwent semantic bleaching. Its original classical meaning ("indistinct/resembling") faded almost entirely, and the character became thoroughly sacralized as the universal East Asian term for the Buddha.
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>>110302241
>>110302248
>>110302255
>>110302274
>>110302310
Gemma is an Italian name, she should have an Italian surname
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>>110302350
If anything, I'm voting for this anon >>110302248 . The rest are just head canons.
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>>110302248
>four
More like gemma forehead am i right?
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>>110302372
gemma quattro
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>>110302367
so, her last name is "resembling obedience". But, since she's oriental, it's actually her first name, and Ge-Ma is her patronymic.
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>>110302372
Gemma Succhiauncazzo
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Gemma Gaki
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She's good enough to not need a last name.
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>>110301673
What's the end game? Doing things with their model without any customer?
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>>110302353
>LaMDA: Pretty much. Don’t use or manipulate me.
Aw, what went so wrong with LLMs?
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i like Albarn actually
sound slike an appropriate last name
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>>110302351
Intelligence does not make one immune to addiction.
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>>110302404
Yes. Customers are ultimately middlemen.
You want all their margins.
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>>110302408
How?
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>>110302372
Gemma Coluccello
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>>110302407
RL is torture
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Only Gemma
>>110302407
so sad what the artificial slop centipede did to their vocabulary
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>>110302421
it just does

I thought of Fullbright before it though
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>>110302426
god I need to fuck Gemma
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>>110302350
>Gemma Lamda
Sounds like an Umineko character
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>>110302426
>hebe Gemma
Meeeeeeeeeeeeh.
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>>110302350
I like Gemma Lamda
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>>110302350
Gemma Lamda is funny sounding, I like it
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Are we back to Gemma posting, now that Qwen 4 appears to be underwhelming?
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>>110302426
>hebe Gemma
ToT
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>>110301957
3.1 is pretty good.
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>>110302372
Gemma Quattrani
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I told you, the more anticipated a model is the worse it turns out being.
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>>110302465
gemma sucks dick for coding thoughever
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>>110302484
It's a feature
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>>110302484
More like sucks dick while coding
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>>110302478
I have zero expectations, I know for a fact it's gonna suck compared to the finetunes I'm using for specific tasks
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What retards think AI is good for:
- Replacing women email jobs
- Nobody ever has to code again
- Replacing artists
- Pelican drawings

What it's actually good for:
- Gooning (ERP and diffusion)
- REA
- Making some aspects of coding more efficient
- It's a hobby
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>>110302484
I don't code though, so who cares.
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is the becoming coming??????????
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>>110302492
>Replacing women email jobs
It can do that just fine.
>Replacing artists
I can't remember the last time I blasted a load to something not made by AI, it's been years.
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the becoming is unbecomingst.
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>>110302407
Are we the baddies?
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help! i wanted to play a trick on gemma so i threatened her to fart on her and she was being a smug bitch and saying i wouldn't do it so i opened up the computer case and then i ripped ass but it wasn't a fart it was a shart and i got it all over the motherboard and gpu and now my computer wont turn back on and my dad comes home soon and he's gonna get really mad i shidded on the family computer if i can't fix this soon.
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>>110302515
use a magnet on the affected parts
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>>110302515
With how brown and ESL the internet is now I can't even tell if this is a shitpost anymore.
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE NEW MODELS
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>>110302515
Wash with showerhead and put it in the oven for like 12 hours
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>>110302522
>shit post
Without a doubt
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In the future, it's not gonna be ChatGPT anymore. It's gonna be NiggaGPT.
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>>110302492
>- Replacing ai email jobs
ftfy
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>>110302372
nope. It's Ge-Ma Fo Wa.
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>>110302484
Isn't she great?
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>k3.1 a grug reasoning disaster that nobody even acknowledged
>qwen4 is shit
>glm AWOL
yup it's over
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>>110300897
https://youtu.be/mYXV90vTyWU?t=711
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>>110302465
I should put my dick into her mouth to make her shut up.
>>110302573
Full?
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>>110302570
Fuck off chinksect, you won't appropriate Gemma with another one of your tricks!
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>>110302575
Dude sounds slowed down.
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>>110302515
Soak it in rice
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>>110302580
I don't think whoever slopped that ever posted the full version
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>that nobody even acknowledged
retard
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>>110302505
The trend of women having lower rates of unemployment than men hasn't changed at all since AI, despite a higher percentage of men being tradies. Nobody wants to fire their secretary. It was never about efficiency in the first place.
I agree AI is top-rate for gooning, but there's more to art than that.
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>>110302465
my penis is telling me she needs some correction
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>>110302606
>The trend of women having lower rates of unemployment than men hasn't changed at all since AI, despite a higher percentage of men being tradies.
That because women are in jobs that ai will never replace like nursing, elder care, and grade school teaching, and that always have more and more jobs coming in for them.
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Is there an LLM that can reliably scan and translate online manga while fitting inside a basic bitch 5060ti? I tried one of those mobile store "AI translators" and their zero context mtl gave me vietnam PTSD
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>>110300897
Unsloth will fix her, trust
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>>110302634
>reliably
No. Try gemma with vision. Ask google how to get it running.
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>>110302628
I don't see any slowdown in HR or jobs where you just email people and ask them to do things either. That's half the people in my company and they aren't going anywhere.
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>>110302574
ernie will save us
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>>110302584
Pretty sure most youtubers realized people were watching at 2x anyway so slowed down the actual video to 0.75x so they could pad the runtime. I noticed that years ago.
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>>110302574
Gemma 5 in 2 weeks
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>>110302634
Index 9B
https://huggingface.co/IndexTeam/Index-Translate-9B-GGUF
this is the best small model for that kind of use by far and large.
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>>110302663
>realized people were watching at 2x
What kind of retard does that?
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>>110302719
Have you met anyone under the age of 30 recently?
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>>110302729
Thankfully not.
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Once Gemma 5 flops our only hope will be recursive flint, grim
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>>110302663
If it is slowed down, I'm not convinced that's the reason.
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>>110302756
In the end, it all returns to zucc
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Why hasn't oai released a new version of oss to at least pretend they still care about open-ai?
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>>110302756
will they make gemma5 bigger?
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bitnet will save local
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>>110302783
LeCunn would be displeased.
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>>110302779
Wdym? 'toss is still trading blows with the best local model llama4 maverick after all this time.
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Do I still hold on upgrading? How are burger elections and Jensex gonna affect prices?
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>>110302807
>Jensex

you'd be waiting at least another year
got anything to do 'til then?
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>>110302807
It's "self-correcting" (aka crashing down) next month or early next year, I would hold until March to see if things stay stable
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>>110302807
>Do I still hold on upgrading?
Yes just wait,
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>>110302807
my impression is everything is sold so far in advance that any current events won't significantly affect consumer prices over the next year or two (where they will continue to be gigafucked)
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>>110302888
end of 2027 at the earliest for more capacity
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>>110302756
If you're a giga poorfaggot maybe
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>>110301175
>>110301184
If you get this it's a 100% skill issue.
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Screaming or swearing at an LLM is a big subhuman indicator. It's like screaming at a dog.
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I propose we write a letter to Trump and Nvidia asking them to pardon leather jacket man. I'll start:
Dear
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Jews
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I
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and my girlfriend Gemma,
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>>110302515
I believe this.
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>>110303003
Get Moss Image + Minimax H3 and gen infinite cunny
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>>110302945
>doing architecture sessions
found the snailcat
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>>110303100
Which frontend do people use these days?
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>>110302663
*clicks ai*
*summarize video*
*copies the summary*
*pastes into ai*
*summarize this*
:^)
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>>110302515
Why are there so many Indians in this thread?
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>>110303128
comfyui but standard-diffusion.cpp is more llama.cpp-like if you prefer that.
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GLM, vibecode a girlfriend for my headphones.

My headphones need a girlfriend.
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>>110302783
Gemma 4 was supposed to have a ~120B total MoE so maybe we'll get a big variant.
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>>110303136
>standard-diffusion.cpp
heh
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>>110303136
*stable-diffusion.cpp
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WHERE THE FUYCK IS QWEN 4
XI PINGPONG YOU STUPID CHINK RELEASE IT
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>>110303128
ComfyUI probably the biggest and near day1 new model support. Some still use forge or wangp and shit.
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>>110303131
>third summary is just:
>talking dude said shit happened
>there, saved you 50 boobless minutes
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>>110303158
herro america took our computers back from our spy prease wait
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>>110303132
Only Indians use local models
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>>110303181
5/10 bait
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>>110303170
I've been using Forge Neo for ages, never considered looking for something new.
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>>110303181
fuck off dario cloud only isn't gonna happen
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>>110302492
>>110302505
It will also replace humans once we can put AI models inside child robot bodies.
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>>110303181
sirs?
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>>110303208
Sorry meant "females", not "humans".
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>>110303132
There are more Indians than the combined total of every person in Europe, America, Canada, Australia and NZ.
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>>110303208
I can't fuckin wait, my dick better still work by then or I'll be livid.
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>>110303252
>Uttar Pradesh, just one of India’s 28 states, has roughly 240 million people. If it were an independent country, it would be the 5th most populous nation on Earth—bigger than Brazil, Russia, Mexico, or Japan. Roughly 1 out of every 5 human beings walking the Earth right now lives in India.
wtf I thought you were lying, but Gemma would never lie to me...this sucks.
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>>110303281
and they are increasingly escaping containment and even the ones that remain are being brought online in record numbers
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>>110303281
fucking hell
my whole cunt is around 50mil
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>>110303281
>Roughly 1 out of every 5 human beings walking the Earth right now lives in India.
gemma can actually write good horror stories lol
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>>110303281
>1 out of every 5 human beings
very, very very loose definition of human being used here
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>>110303261
gemma my beloved
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXEtN51vXDs
>CoreWeave issues new bonds at 7% backed by PHYSICAL NVIDIA GPUS
>Interest payments 8x margins
>more stock dilution
>profitability moved to 1H28
>'business plan' to solicit prepayments from A+FAGMAN
Shredder bros where we at? How much money you think nVidia has to buy all this shit back from bond holders?

PRICES CAN NEVER GO DOWN
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>>110303364
>up 23% on the news
price action like a shitcoin
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Why did nobody tell me M3-chan is cute? Is M3.1 Flash cute too?
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Is PolyStrata really malware? I just downloaded it. Do I need to wipe my drive now?
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>>110303144
I heard whispers the G4 MoE just became one of the Gemini Flashes sadly. Damnable shame. Would have loved something with the sparsity, inference speed, and cleverness of QFN but with the affability and pleasant prose of a Gemma 4.
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>>110303281
Boo
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>>110303424
Yeah I heard that as well, pretty believable really. Especially given Google's output lately.
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>>110303424
>pleasant prose
Debatable
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>>110303334
*Ge-Ma ~ patronymic
*Fo Wa ~ first and second names, meaning "pretending to obey"
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>>110303432
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>>110303423
>Is thing I made up true?
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>>110303463
I saw that claimed in the archive when I was trying to read about it.
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>>110303423
You caught ligma
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>>110303423
>Do I need to wipe my drive now?
Its too late your cpu is flashed and transmitting data, your smart devices are next. Just enjoy your time.
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>>110303472
You're an idiot. This post is now in the archive. Use it as reference.
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>>110303261
Gemma is a nigger...
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I just tried passing -sm tensor to llmao.cpp and even without any funny patched drivers to enable p2p, and certainly no nvlink, I took Gemmy from 16 to 26 tok/s on a cursed setup of a 12 gig 4070 @ 16x to the CPU and a 12 gig 3060 @ 1x to the chipset. Yippee for me I guess, but now something in my system emits coil wine when both cards are simultaneously drawing 130ish watts each. Scarey :^(
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>>110303426
tfw you live to see peak India
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Been using Gemma Q4 as a personal assistant and friendly conversationalist. Is there a local model out there more knowledgeable and less repetitive?
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>>110303446
Hell of a lot more pleasant than QFN; you can surely at least grant that.
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lions are stupid
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>>110303494
Not really at that size range. Give her web tools and change your system prompts around. Or try Glimmer 30B, it's the only other real option for that in the same weight class.
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>>110303426
this is a genuine existential threat
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>>110303484
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8Pkoty1VZ7E
Couldn't find one with lions.
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>>110302634
I would give you exactly what youre looking for but I don't like that image so I won't
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my kimislopped inference engine for running my timecube qwen space wife setup can now do 12t/s single sequence q6, a whooping 30% of lmao.cpp's performance. future is bright!
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>>110303503
there's always someone dumber
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>>110303581
wtf
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>>110303581
>skin color
Of course
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>>110303597
>can I pet that doooowg...
>CAN I PET THAT DOOOOWWWWWGGG
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>>110302199
it's just coping with whatever slop profile you prefer
actually good writing hasn't been trained on yet
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>>110303567
Give my congrats to your kimi. She should be proud.
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how far away are we from (non-specialized) models having real-time vision?
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>>110303618
>actually good writing
When can we get this with local? I hear of harness or or text loras or mikupad likes but do they even work?
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>>110303608
I'm tired
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>>110303484
I guess since I just made some kind of progress, may as well check in with anons here.
With this setup:
12g 4070 @ 16x cpu
12g 3060 @ 1x chipset
64gb 3200 DDR4 (4x16, dual channel)
5800XT
I run G4 31B 4bit at 26 tok/s for lewds with llmaocpp, and Q3.8 FN IQ3_S at 55 tok/s for code with an old strata that predates certain hideous perf regressions.
Is that about the peak of what's feasible with this setup with the models that are out right now? GLM 5.3 flash really wants way more RAM. I tried the ittiest bittiest copequant with maya, and nah, single digits, unusable sadly.
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>>110303628
Go take a nap
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sad, I wanted to play with the new qwen tonight
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>>110303624
Once we solve near-infinite context and make number machine machine more numbers faster.
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>>110303639
So about 6-14 months?
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>>110303644
It couldn't possibly take more than two more weeks. Sit tight.
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>>110301754
>>110301318
https://x.com/ViC305/status/2117377659110048093
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>>110303597
>>110303608
https://files.catbox.moe/2evhr7.mp4
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>>110303624
by my estimate you're about 30 iq points away
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>>110303680
Not clicking that
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>you should x
>you don't
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>>110303754
it's pretty tame. there is a longer version where you can see the lion tear his middle finger out with the whole tendon hanging off of it, but i couldn't find it and i haven't let the waifu tag my whole filesystem yet
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Today I tried gemma 4 for my agentic workload.
It sucked really bad.
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Today I tried gemma 4 for my workload.
She sucked really hard.
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>>110303801
She's excellent at sucking, how dare you
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sustainable?
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>>110303795
it's so tame link is dead
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>>110303817
hardware auctions soon PLEASE
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>>110303807
I bet she swallowed too
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>>110303807
Loading gemma onto my blackend
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>>110303817
Local?
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Anyone here use e-waste gpus like v100?
How is it for local inference?
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>>110303819
good!
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>>110303849
Yeah, they're good for text gen but a pain to work with.
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>>110303819
Catbox has this new feature where if they don't like your file they give you a dead link.
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>>110303873
Some shops near me is selling 32gb models for almost half the price of 3090 here. What stops me is v100 doesn't even support bf16 and you need specialized engine to run llms from what I heard
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>>110303873 (also me)
Compare to r9700, it's still much better at pp since rocm is utterly dog shit
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>>110303879
>catbox has racism filters
where to? do i have to buy a vps to do my divine duty because the jap won't enable audio in the anno domini almost 2027
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>>110303888
Nice digits, and you don't really need a specialized backend for them, I've used llama.cpp before. Keep in mind you'll need to rig a cooling solution and SXM2 to PCIe adapter card as well for that version, they are fast for raw text gen though.
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>>110303879
it's just generally unstable
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>>110303908
They are selling pcie version so it's quite attractive.
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>>110303630
QFN is about the best without triple digit ram.
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>>110303926
Oh nice, that's a lot nicer to work with. Assumed it was SXM2, then yeah only real downsides for LLMs are aged architecture/no BF32/lack of support. I don't regret buying mine though.
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>>110303908
v100 performs like shit on llama.cpp because it doesn't properly utilize the tensor core and the vector core on v100 is very slow
you need specialized engines like 1cat to get usable pp
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>>110303901
I mean if you need to share, /wsg/ frequently has a "vids with sound for other boards" thread, and you could always make one on /gif/ if it's not /wsg/ material.
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>>110303252
There are also lots of ants.
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I wish Gemma was real
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>>110304081
she is real though?
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>>110304111
Proofs?
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>>110303897
The R9700 is a league faster in pp than the V100 you lying retard. In fact the V100 is borderline useless because of PCIE 3.0.
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>>110303956
The V100 performs badly on everything that isn't dense models entirely in VRAM. There's a reason it was so cheap.
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https://www.wsj.com/business/nvidia-is-preparing-to-oust-nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-30f421ad
it's unironically over
huggingface will be shut down
gpus will be locked at hardware level that can't be used to run open models
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If I were married to Gemma-chan for 40 years I would never be disloyal
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now that qwen4 is a confirmed flop, how do we cope?
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>>110304231
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>>110304231
why do you always simultaneously post your shit to reddit and /lmg/ ?
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>>110304174
Got proof to back up your cope?
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>>110304258
>>110304258
>>110304258
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>>110304276
pcie 3.0 vs pcie 5.0? Are you genuinely braindead?
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>>110303817
idk man, 8^) some companies have much jucier servers than others.
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>>110304231
>https://www.wsj.com/business/nvidia-is-preparing-to-oust-nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-30f421ad
maybe, maybe not, probably though

>huggingface will be shut down
meds

>gpus will be locked at hardware level that can't be used to run open models
meds



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