The uncomfortable truth is that vibecoding is totally viable if it's executed procedurally by an intelligent person.The other uncomfortable truth is that intelligence makes a difference here. Ironically, soft skills like language comprehension and interdisciplinary communication become invaluable. Coders are notorious lacking in these faculties. Which puts it all in perspective:Coders aren't mad that LLMs let non-coders code, they're mad that they're going to have to talk to something on a regular basis in order to keep their job.
>>110302269>Coders aren't mad that LLMs let non-coders codeidk about thata basic website was like $15,000 ten years ago if you wanted to hire a mid webshitthe gatekeeping was insane, small and mid companies were getting rekt if they wanted an online presence. now it takes one smarter-than-average manager with a laptop and a $30 AI sub.
>>110302269I enjoy talking to people. But half the time thos shit is technical enough that normies simply cannot stay with me. There's just too much of a jargon gap.Like, how the hell long do I spend explaining CIDR address space and L2/ARP before we even get into why I need budget for additional external load balancers or a new L4/SNI router/switch for gateways.Someone asked why couldn't AI do it instead of turning up new equipment. We're at the fucking point where people with less understanding than a college undergrad are expecting AI to just route packets like hardware.
>>110302269i have uncomfortable news about you sexual orientation
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>>110302269Everyone can do it means there will never be high paying programming jobs ever again. You can vibecode software for others yes, but you will be doing that for peanuts.And If AGI ever becomes a thing, your current job occupation as a "vibecoder" will last a total of one year if it gets to the point where the end customer can just ask the computer for what they need.tl;dr: you are not making money off this shit, that window will be closing too.
>>110302269>OP's vidWhy is that loon trying to suggest people will start working a job that will be automated anyways?For what purpose?
>>110302269>Ironically, soft skills like language comprehension and interdisciplinary communication become invaluable.Have you tried prompting in the last few weeks? It doesn't matter how eloquent you talk to the llm, you can do it like a caveman a toddler or a third worlder who never learned English."""prompt engineering""" is the same kind of cope some coders engage in.
What you vibeniggers need to understand is that you are getting in at the end, it's over.There is no cushy 10k a month jobs for you, they are gone forever.
>>110302568This. OP is some nocoder mathlet coping about how he has no technical skill but he "sounds intelligent".The thing is, Opus 5.5 understands literal caveman noises, his alleged "verbal intelligence" is already obsolete.
>coders are bad at telling a machine exactly what to doAre you fucking retarded?
>>110302561mcdonalds could have automated this shit a decade ago but didnt because theres just more to a SERVICE job than thatBartenders could have been replaces since the fucking 70s if the only aspect of the job was mxing drinks part
>>110302383If you can't break down technical jargon for normies to understand, then you don't understand them yourself.Thank you for your attention this matter!
>>110302269>blah blah retarded non sequitur the threadamazing
>>110302383Just tell AI to download more RAM
>>110302546Everyone loves open source software until it's ALL open source.
>>110302594>t. Richard Feynman
>>110302317There was Squarespace, Shopify etc. but everyone wanted their special snowflake nonsense.
>>110302616People want others shit to be free, their shit to be paid.A lot of these vibeniggers think people will pay for their slop.
>>110302664That's retarded. Open source produces open source. Anyone trying to make money on content generated by an open model is a fag.
I could do pretty much any white collar job better than you, and I have automated many non-coding tasks myself already.The scenario where intelligent programmers work at McDonald's, serving fries to NEETs and retards is simply your way of coping for never achieving anything. And don't act like you are extremely phisically fit either, I'm almost certain I could do blue collar jobs better than at least half this board.
>>110302269You don't talk to the clanker like a human lol
>>110302546>>110302568>>110302578>>110302731He likely means communicating with customers and management to gather business objectives and translate them into code/prompts.
>>110302751https://youtu.be/fcIMIyQnOso?si=6RgLvASk4UOpjEHA
>>110302383>>110302269AI understands all jargon you throw at it, unlike normies. Try telling a normie to think of an apple or if they didn't have breakfast. They literally can't.vibetechGODs win every time
>>110302269The normalfag way of communicating is just vibes, very little actual information is exchanged.Coders are precise when communicating with the computer.Why precision matters so much for programming is utterly incomprehensible to most people and so is edge cases.
>>110302594>Spends his 15 minutes of a budgetary meeting explaining BGP because he likes the sound of his own voice>Zero time to explain why he needs budget for new boxesBravo, anon.
>>110302657They were drag and drop templates. They are still in business because they adapted to the AI model.
>>110302383You just say you need new equipment for the site to be able to expand and the growth will have to halt if you don't get the equipment you need and time to set it up.
If GitHub PR threads are anything to go by, AI taking over part of the coding market doesn't bother me much. It's a lot easier to talk to than the kind of developer whose default response is, "Closed because I can't be bothered." At least the AI explains *why* something won't work instead of talking down to you.
>>110302816Of course with AI you can make better websites now, and prompting might even be easier than using Shopify.But people act like there was simply nothing before AI. I have seen successful businesses use Shopify and I even used it myself, despite being a programmer.If you're Netflix you need your own custom site, but not as a small business, people just create artificial barriers for themselves.
>>110302841I just tell them to ask chatgpt what it would do, because I know it will say the same thing as me. If I say it, they assume they know better. But a computer saying it is like God. They never question it.
>>110302856>They never question it.Of course not, the AI strokes their egos to the max.
>>110302856That works until you get the guy with just enough knowledge to get himself into trouble.>Hey, remember when we put that heavy duty gateway router in front of our storage LAN? You know, the one that should never be exposed to the wider web because that's a shit load of valuable data?>I asked ChatGPT if we could just give it a virtual IP and have it act as the gateway router for both the storage LAN and the public facing web service LAN, and it said we could, as long as we're super DUPER careful with our firewall/ACL rules.
>>110302751Yeah and you still need to understand what the thing spits out
this is what I like to call the prompt engineer's cope
>>110302852I agree. People do tend to reinvent the wheel, and the one they end up making is not any better than a wordpress blog or a shopify page.
>>110302798>Can't boil down his jargon to be 5 minutes, 5 minutes to explain the new budget, and 5 minutes on why trans rights matterUh oh stinky
>>110302657>Squarespace, Shopifythose have a monthly fuck you tax you don't win in the end
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>>110302673open source software makes money all time time, before and after 2022
>>110302978You know they can all tell you're a chaser, right?
>>110302751They understand 90 IQ customers who go straight to the point with simple better than your midwit jargon, you aren't really needed
>>110302657Special snowflake > gay ass e-commerce service.
