PCI-Express slots are backwards compatible.Sata ports are backwards compatible.Ethernet ports are backwards compatible.Wifi is backward compatible.USB ports are backwards compatible.HDMI ports are backwards compatible.DisplayPort ports are backwards compatibleBluetooth is backward compatible.The only tech that isn't compatible is DDR memories.The invisible hand of the free market is obviously failing here, the government should enforce rules to make DDR backward compatible.I wanna buy a DDR5 motherboard, and use my DDR3 sticks.
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>>110302458>USB ports are backwards compatibleUSB-C isn't
>>110302647yes it is
>>110302662you're a fucking idiot
>>110302647The protocol itself is, and the plug only needs a passive converter.But god damn is usb-c a piece of shit, it's completely useless for anything where the thing you connect to can move. The plug wears itself out in months.
>>110302458Pin numbers, the distance between the pins and what each pin does make that impossible if I were to take a guess.
>>110302458>PCI-Express slots are backwards compatiblebios says hello
>>110302458Needs to be as close to cpu as it can be. What you are suggesting would make it useless
>>110302458>the government should enforce rules to make DDR backward compatible.Retard.
>>110302662>adapterThere is nothing stopping you from building a DDR3 to DDR5 adapter.They may run on different voltages and communicate differently, but there is no technical reason why you wouldn't be able to translate it.But since such an adapter would need to actively process data faster than your CPU can, it would be more expensive than your PC.So if adapters count, then technically DDR is backwards compatible :D
>>110302679USB-C is the plug.USB-C is not backwards compatible.USB was backwards AND even forwards compatible (i can plug a USB 2.0 flash drive into a USB 1.0 slot) throughout its existence, until USB-C came along.USB-C is so horrible, that an USB-C device might choose to work on one port, but not on another (thunderbird). Just because you can plug it in, doesm't mean that it works.USB-C is the largest technological regression we experienced in the past decades. It is a downgrade.
>>110302679>it's completely useless for anything where the thing you connect to can move. The plug wears itself out in monthsI have TWO dead USB-C ports on my laptop and the repair is 200 $.I am using an USB-A to USB-C adapter now, while pondering if a repair is worth it.In my whole life, i never experienced a USB port failing. This is so ridiculous, i hate it.
>>110302458why aren't you complaining about CPU socket backwards compatibility? it's the same thing, for faster transfer you now need more lanes. more address space.>>110302764for good connection choose d-sub connectors. industrial stuff got it.
>>110302764>until USB-C came along.USB Type B, Mini A/B and Micro A/B says hi.
>DDR memories>DDR>memories
>>110302874hell yeah
>>110302458the jews
>>110302810it has gotten so bad that gamepads started having a recessed cable hole in them to relieve the stress from the connector itself. Razer and 8bitdo have some pads like that already.
>>110302458The standards are not eletrically or pin compatible.Though the solution are CXL adapters, which can attach any sort of storage coherently over PCIe directly to the CPU. Thats why hyperscalers are not selling or decommisioning their DDR4.
>>110302848Not even once in my life did i interact with a micro-to-micro cable.I don't even know if they exist. I checked Amazon right now and "USB micro to micro" didn't give me anything on the first page.And the only USB port, that i ever saw on a PC or laptop, before USB-C arrived, was USB-A. With perfect backwards and forwards compatibility.
>>110302958Okay, try using a usb mini cable to connect to a phone that has usb micro plug. Or try connecting to a printer that has a usb type b plug.
>>110302953what's the point of having ram on PCIe bus? the latency and bandwidth are gonna make it useless
>>110303059PCIe 5.0 x16 is worth 64GB/s and 6.0 doubles that.Latency isnt that bad, very useful to move idling VMs from the fast ddr5 or for databases.
>>110303011this is what the average flash drive looks like in 2026
How does HDMI increases the speed on the same connector and cable?Or even PCI-express.You can get a PCI-E gen1 into a PCI-E gen5 slot, and it will work as PCI-E gen1.You can plug a RTX 5050 that is PCI-E gen5 intp a PCI-E gen3, and it will work as PCI-E gen3.
>>110303077and how is that relevant to devices switching from usb mini to usb micro to usb-c? give it 10 years, they'll be using usb-d or usb-e or something, which will be even smaller, even more unreliable, still wired to usb 2.0 baseline, and will work with usb-a with a passive converter.
>>110303187My laptop or PC never had mini or micro.USB-C is the first time i have one of those device specific fragile shit ports on my laptop.And for what? What benefit did we get from that?That we now have ports dying on both sides?That we break 30 years of backwards and forwards compatibility?USB-C is the biggest regression in hardware in the history of personal computing.
>>110302458Because CPU performance is directly correlated to RAM speed.i5-2500K wouldn't be as legendary if all the chucklefucks went "wtf this shit runs as slow as my Pentium 4" while using DDR1 sticks.
>>110303415>My laptop or PC never had mini or micro.because your PC is a "USB Host", and the crap you connect to it is a "USB Device". The host is what sends out the power, enumerates the Device, etc etc etc. USB Host usually has a female ports, a USB Device has a male port or connector (such as a male connector, connecting to a type B female port).That's how USB always worked: type A female = host, type b female or type a male = device. So your laptop never needed to have anything but type A female ports.Then the EU made a retarded mandate to make phones all use the same connector (ten years too late because everyone transitioned to USB Micro-B for charging), so now every phone has to have USB-C. And because it supports fast charging, people started using it as a universal charger port. And because phones make up for the biggest usage share of computing devices, people make shit like usb-c flash drives.>That we now have ports dying on both sides?Planned obsolescence.>That we break 30 years of backwards and forwards compatibility?They are fully compatible protocol and wiring wise. Only the physical connector is different. It's no different than switching from TRS 6.35mm to TRS 3.5mm, or from USB type B to USB Mini to USB Micro.>USB-C is the biggest regression in hardware in the history of personal computing.I fully agree.But, look at it historically: we used to have a bunch of retarded transitionary ports like Firewire, eSATA, even USB Mini and Micro now belongs there, and so does Thunderbolt. USB-C will be gone in 10 years too.
