already?! last thread was fast

/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.

>Cognitive dissonance.
When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.

This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.

OP doesn't know what stereo imaging is, btw.

/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.

>Cognitive dissonance.
When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.

This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink. You're welcome

>>110314939
uhhhh don't repost my shit

>>110314933
>>110314939
Doesn't know stereo audio has 2 channels btw.
>You can't answer why taking the left IEM out of your ear hard pans everything to the right.
>Notice what he didn't answer

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>>110314961
You absolutely have no idea what you're talking about.

>>110314977
>Notice what he didn't answer

>>110314961
>taking the left IEM out of your ear hard pans everything to the right
That's not what happens.

>>110314780
Order some glue to put the nozzle back when it falls off.

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Endgame is $40. Remember, the meta is to run your R2R in 1bit mode and have SoX output DSD256.

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paypigs = going insane
$5 shitbuds = endgame

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Everybody do this to viscerally understand how truly retarded
>>110314994
>>110314939
>>110314933
is

>>110315013
>says paypigs are going insane
>posts paypig gear
you are clearly unhinged

Okay now that we got that out of the way, lets talk iems and pmps

>>110315017
Or explain, in your own terms, exactly what you think is happening.

>>110315013
Endgame is $20 you're just deaf.

Mid Tier
$5 shitbuds
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$20 shitbuds

High Tier
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Top Tier
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God Tier
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/iemg/ - schizophrenia edition

>>110315033
Interaural level difference.

>>110314891
My wife Chino is so cute

>>110315053
Nothing playing in the left channel, since you took out the left IEM, is playing in your right ear, fucking spergalicious VIP of the dipshit party

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Fact: Shitphone shitdongle shitbud is goated

>>110314964
thank for my threadly dose of sanity

>>110315065
>things only exist either in the left or in the right channel
Profound mental retardation.

>>110314891
>>Endgame IEMs:
>• KZ
Tyvan pls, nobody cares about KZ.

>>110315078
lol you absolutely are trolling because you can teach what stereo imaging is to a 5 year old.
go ahead, let's see what genius rebuttal you come up with this time that we haven't heard a thousand times already

>>110315094
>take left IEM out of your ear
>everything gets hard panned to the right
>he physically can't answer why it happens even after the answer was already given to him

why do you need one gazillion DAPs and DACs and IEMs????

>>110315078
If you have a hard-panned guitar in the left channel, like you've mentioned before,
you won't hear it in the right channel.
give up trying to sound informed

>>110315093
>sniping OP before bump limit just to put his garbage into it
Actually sad.

>>110315117
You don't understand stereo imaging. Keep trying

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>>110315127
Did the meme award. 99% of content is not hard panned into one channel. You're avoiding the answer for the 99% of content.
>>110315134
>he physically can't answer

>>110315127
>notice he won't agree
We're noticing

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sox -t waveaudio "Stereo Mix" -t waveaudio 1 rate -v 11289600 sdm -f clans-6 -t 4 -n 4 \
equalizer 21 1.5q 1 \
equalizer 84 -0.4q 1.1 \
equalizer 200 -2.2q 0.8 \
equalizer 1000 1.4q 0.6 \
equalizer 3700 -1.6q 3.8 \
equalizer 5600 2.6q 1.8 \
gain -2.5818

>>110315142
You are making shit up with your hypotheticals.
99% of music with guitars has both rhythm guitars hard panned L/R. That's how wall of sound works.
That's how recording guitar works. You have no fucking goddamn clue what the fuck you're talking about

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>>110315131
>caring about OP when the whole thread is garbage

Never seen OP this BTFO in my life. Whew

>>110315169
"Hypotheticals" and it's 99% of content. 99% of content is in the center. And it becomes hard panned to the right when you take left IEM out of your ear. Because things on your right are louder in your right ear than in your left ear. You can't spell this because everything you learned in your life is absolute horseshit.

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>>110315216
Is that your final answer? lol

>>110315216
ALl music with guitars has rhythm guitars hard panned L/R. Not the same guitar, different guitars tracked then panned there.
The only guitars in the 'center' would be solos

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$5 Shitbud Alert

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>>110315115
Me after using headpos for 1 minute.

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>>110315275
What else is there in all that music.

>>110315317
testicles

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$5 Shitbud Alert

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Remember: A $20 shitbud can easily become $5 with enough waiting

>>110315317
Most vocals, bass guitars, kick drums being center-panned doesn't mean "99%" of content is center. You present this as recording music is a monolith and only argue with that you think suits your view- that which accounts for not understanding how mixing audio works.
Stay in your "FR=everything" lane.

what else is there but fr

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>>110315364

>>110315490
Notice how after all this time you still can't answer why center panned content becomes hard panned to the right if you take the left IEM out of your ear.

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>>110315498
Balls.

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$5 Shitbud Alert

>there are things other than FR!
>names things that IEMs physically can't change
What is this mental illness called?

>>110315523
What are you fucking actually asking that?
It's the same question as, "HURR DURR, IF I HAVE AUDIO PLAYING IN MONO BUT I TAKE ONE IEM OUT, WHY DO I STILL HEAR AUDIO?? HURR DURR"

That's what you're asking.

>>110315523
Nothing is "panning" when you take an IEM out. That's not what "panning" is. Words have meaning.

>>110315523
>all mono content becomes hard panned to the right if you take the left IEM out of your ear.
what is this mental illness called?

>>110315640
Damn you'll bend over backwards just to avoid answering it lol.
>IF I HAVE AUDIO PLAYING IN MONO BUT I TAKE ONE IEM OUT, WHY DO I STILL HEAR AUDIO
Why did the audio become hard panned to one side after doing this?
>>110315657
Panning is not turning a knob if you're still mistakenly thinking this.
>>110315676
It's called having 2 working ears.

That's it, /iemg/.

Anon thinks taking 1 IEM out of your ears means you're "panning" audio.

That's literally her spergout

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>shitbud alert
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>>110314964
5-6k+ 95%+ summit totl
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>>110315690
You're either actually insane and don't think audio sounds from the right after doing this or you genuinely think panning is the act of turning a knob, and not changing the amplitude in one channel to manipulate the position of an instrument.

>>110315688
>Panning is not turning a knob if you're still mistakenly thinking this.
That's exactly what it is because mixing music requires the one goddamn thing to control and place where ALL SOUNDS IN THE STEREO MIX ARE SPATIALLY THERE.
Every sound takes up a channel in the mixing board. Every channel has a volume fader. Every channel has a panning knob. You control width and depth with solely those two unless you use stereo effects like delay and reverb, but that's another topic.

YOU, my friend, are in absolute denial and now that you have made all the effort in the world to solidify this troll grift of yours, I accept your concession and we here at /iemg/ are ready to see how the rest of your rage unfolds in this thread.

>>110315746
>That's exactly what it is
It isn't. Hope this helps.

>>110315730
>panning is the act of turning a knob
it is. you're not doing any mixing by 'taking out your IEM' and you're not doing any mastering by tip rolling, or using EQ for listening.
words have meanings and an ESL like you should know that

>>110315761
You're in denial and have no idea how mixing audio works, even as you're told exactly what it is. Keep up your delusion, we love it don't we?

>>110315772
>>110315780
>it is.
Somebody should tell DAW users that they can't pan instruments.

>>110315761
Only a troll or someone unable to wrap their head around how the audio they hear is made, would say this

>>110315796
If only you had enough self-awareness to understand who this applies to better.

>>110315786
If a DAW has mixing capabilities, which they do, they have panning knobs.
All of them.

>>110315809
I'm winning this exchange, every time it happens. You'd have to be a pure troll to really have to patronize this thread with an asinine denial of audio recording/mixing. That's exactly what you are. Not one other person on this planet agrees with you

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>>110315811
DAWs are software, are you dumb?

>>110315843
>I'm winning this exchange, every time it happens.
You aren't, hope this helps.

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>>110315848
Mixing with a DAW is so trivial,


wait...

Are you saying mixing audio can ONLY be done on a PHYSICAL mixing board??

>>110315866
I already won the second you denied an entire field of audio you think is the boogeyman.
Hope you get helps. And I hope you keep it up because the rest of us will get tired of your grift, which gives you a bad look

>>110315913
>I already won the second you denied an entire field of audio you think is the boogeyman.
It was real in your mind.

>>110315922
And I accept your concession. Find a new grift

>>110315895
I'm saying that if the effect of a physical panning knob is achieved through other means then it's still panning. Like interacting with a GUI element which may or may not be a knob. Or per-channel EQ. Or taking one IEM out of your ear.

>>110315927
No, really. It literally only happened in your mind. Nobody ever said what you think was said. You can't quote it.

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$5 Shitbud Alert

>>110315947
>Or per-channel EQ
That isn't panning.
>Or taking one IEM out of your ear.
Not panning either.
You're making your own definitions of words. Stop that.

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Why is this paggernaut trying to destroy catbox?

>>110316042
The effect is the same so it is panning. "Panning is when there's a knob" is entirely a thing you made up. Nobody thinks this. You're aware that there's also a kind of panning that doesn't even change the amplitude and it's still called panning, right?

i bought a subsurge just for the tips and cable

>>110316045
Download all of it

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>>110315043
>>110315013
>>110314964

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Don't forget the original intention of
using earphones is to enjoy music
勿忘 使用耳机的初衷是享受音乐

>>110316124
wow is that crinacle?

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Crinacle is genius.

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>>110314891
I have Ziigaat Arete 2 and my god these are the best sounding piece of audio kit I've ever had by far. I've owned/tried:
1) Final E4000
2) Aful Explorer
3) Mangird Tea Pro (I fucking hated these. What a meme. Gave them to my sister.)
4) TSMR Armor
And I own FT1 headphones which are nice, too.

Ziigaat Arete 2 are wonderful and I will shill them for free.

>>110316190
He says that but his daily drivers are all expensive shit.

Source: I was the eartip.

>>110316084
>The effect is the same so it is panning.
Wrong. That's like saying going on HRT swaps your gender. That's just not the case.
>"Panning is when there's a knob" is entirely a thing you made up. Nobody thinks this
That is 99.99999999% how it has been done from the beginning of time.

>>110316298
Ask the developer of your DAW whether he has a picture of a knob in the code he did for panning or if it's just changing the amplitude like all the other things I called panning.

>>110316316
Ask your nearest therapist to schedule a session, ASAP.

Remember to download the high resolution audio posted in this thread to your $20 shitphone with cracked neutron player to upsample to DSD256 for $15 trn black pearl, $4 4.4mm cable and $3 castors

>>110316412
Imagine not using poweramp (paid)
Imagine not having a quad-dac dongle
Imagine not having a >200USD iem to listen to

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>>110315281
The headpos vs IEMs debate summed up in one image.

if your iem is less expensive than chu 2 its pretty much a condom plastic driver

>>110316190
When he said this he did not mean KZ, which he already boycotted at the time.

>>110316639
What are you, his lawyer? He obviously included KZ

>>110316708
>He obviously included KZ
Tyvan pls.

>>110316708
Crinacle only listents to expensive iems dipshit, he only says that so the paggies dont rebel against him

>>110316733
Why are you defending him this hard? lol what is he, your god?

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Here comes the waiting game

These things never take more than 15 days, Chinese niggas have mastered logistics

>>110316760
In a sea of paggies, crinacle is the big pig. He has gear for days, no way he touching a 5$ Condom Zenith even with sterilized chopsticks

>>110316412
Remember to listen to your massive music library converted to fully transparent 128kbps oggsfor portable use through em6l EQd to perfection with 3.5mm ve odo.

>>110316785
KZ isn't the only $5 company, though. You're still defending him over a detail he didn't mention and you're putting words in his mouth.

>>110316834
pag harder cretin!

>>110316834
>KZ isn't the only $5 company, though.
Those companies are good though.

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you don't believe in BONE CONDUCTION do you? its just a meme you know. otherwise he would hear it in his shitty iems.

>>110316916
I don't believe in bones.

>>110315690
That's it, /iemg/.

Anon thinks panning is when there's a knob.

do headphones rly speed up hair loss?

i genuinely think they do. i dont think they'll make u bald if you dont have bald genes, but if u do have bald genes, i think they'll speed it up. also if u have aggressive hair loss, then it doesnt matter if u use headphones or not, youre boned (unless finasteride works for u without side effects).

now I have aga driven hair loss but its extremely slow and its the diffuse thinning type where my hair is slowly getting thinner all over the top rather than receding hairline shit. my hairline is still very low and i have full head of hair but ive definitely lost density. im 40 now but its still solid looking when dry. I did try finasteride for a while but i couldnt tolerate that shit unfortunately.

anyway i recently made a few changes, one was no longer using headphones (use IEMs instead), the other was caffeine shampoo. i swear my hair looking like it's gotten much thicker. I do acknowledge that this could be placebo effect though. The thing is however that I'm also no longer experiencing scalp burning like I used to get. Whenever I'd get heavy scalp burning I swear I'd lose more hair during that time. Whenever I tried finasteride that scalp burning would go away completely, even if I was using headphones. But i've noticed i dont get scalp burning anymore that I'm not using headphones even without finasteride, but maybe that's somehow the caffeine shampoo at work.

either way my scalp feels like it's "breathing" better now without headphones (and I used to wear headphones a lot), it feels like it used to feel when I was taking finasteride (no more scalp burning) but maybe this is also the caffeine shampoo at work. i swear though, when I use headphones, I feel that scalp burning sensation come back.

idk. glad I still have a full head of hair tho ngl I hope I can maintain this till 60 but we'll see.

>>110315895
What do panning knobs change in the audio signal.

balance is volume attenuation, so is removing the left iem. attenuation isnt panning because you're not moving the signal from one location to the other.
now if you shoved the left iem into the same earhole as the right one, then you conceptually 'panned' the signal over.

>>110317407
>attenuation isnt panning because you're not moving the signal from one location to the other.
Neither does panning. Center signal has equal amplitude in both channels. Panning left attenuates the left channel. Panning right attenuates the right channel. You can test that this is how it actually works by taking a sample that is already hard panned to the left and hard panning it to the right. Nothing gets moved, it just destroys the signal completely.

>>110317552
*Panning left attenuates the right channel. Panning right attenuates the left channel.

>AutoEQ up to 20khz
>sounds good
Remember the psyop that measurements are inaccurate after 2khz and you're a criminal for doing it

>>110317552
****volume****
****signal****

>>110317587
Inaccurate and sounds good are two different things.

>>110317241
It would be more accurate to ask what they are doing to the stereo image itself rather than the audio signal.

no shit, volume is a signal, but killing the signal on one side with a knob isnt panning, however attenuating the signal from one output to another is panning.
the removing one iem = panning is retarded

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>>110317693
>however attenuating the signal from one output to another is panning.
Not how it works at all. Panning just makes one side quieter. I told you how to test it for yourself already.

>>110317714
>Panning
is when you place a sound in a stereo field or have the sound move across it with automation. panning only happens when you're talking about the individual sounds (instruments, vocals, anything recorded or takes up a channel in the mixing console, virtual or otherwise) in the audio and how you place them spatially.

>>110317693
>the removing one iem = panning is retarded
Thank fucking god at least one other anon in here is able to call that out.

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>>110317744
>is when you place a sound in a stereo field
Place it with what.

>>110317762
The sounds you put an audio track together with need to be routed through a mixing board. It can be virtual, it can be physical. Either way each sound takes up its own channel on the mixing board.
See, >>110315895
If you didn't touch anything, added no stereo effects, did 0 panning, you'd end up with a mono audio track.

>play an individual instrument through one IEM
>it is moved in the stereo field to the side of that IEM
Wow I guess you can pan with IEMs thanks for playing.

>>110317783
You're assuming the individual instrument is placed in the center. Removing a speaker that you're listening to, be it headphones or desktop speakers doesn't mean you're panning. It means your removing a speaker, that's it.

>>110317782
Each "channel" on that board is physically two channels. If the sample is mono it's duplicated. That is what is being manipulated. The difference between physical channels.

>>110317802
You're conflating mix board channels with stereo out channels. The two are not the same.
If you have a 4-track tape recorder, you are working with 4 tracks.
If you have a 24-track Neve console, you are working with 24 tracks.
The fact that you are routing the entire mix to two speakers means nothing other than you are making a 2-channel stereo mix.

That's literally it.

>>110317802
Each channel on the board has a panning knob. You hard pan a channel left, it leaves the right channel entirely.

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>Couldn't complete his 100 posts for his paycheck from Tyvan on the last thread in time so the fat fuck is going sicko mode with spam on this one.
Pointless for anyone else to post anything because that faggot will just shit it up

>>110317822
To reiterate, a 4-track recorder has 4 channels. A 24-track mixing console has 24 channels.

>>110317799
>>110317831
See >>110317714
Your panning knob will destroy a non-center signal just like removing an IEM.
>>110317822
You're still struggling with 2 channels, we may talk about more channels later. Just look at the actual waveforms, not at the GUI conventions, and you will understand.

>>110317834
Have to drill it into this chud so she finally gets it.

>>110317842
>Your panning knob will destroy a non-center signal
not destroy, place it into the stereo field.
>just like removing an IEM
that's not panning.

>>110317858
>not destroy, place it into the stereo field.
If you take a sample that was hard panned to the left and hard pan it to the right in mixer the signal will be destroyed, not placed. There will be complete silence in both channels.
>that's not panning.
Your literal only argument is that the same effect achieved through something that is not a knob. It is not a good argument.

>>110317883
>If you take a sample that was hard panned to the left and hard pan it to the right in mixer the signal will be destroyed, not placed. There will be complete silence in both channels.
Entirely incorrect. There's no possible way you "delete the audio" by panning sounds in a mix.
>Your literal only argument is that the same effect achieved through something that is not a knob. It is not a good argument.
You're calling "taking out an IEM" panning. It is not a good characterization.

>>110317902
>Entirely incorrect. There's no possible way you "delete the audio" by panning sounds in a mix.
Go do it right now and see how utterly wrong you are. Hard pan to the left -> export -> import -> hard pan to the right -> export. The result will be silence.

>>110317919
I'll do it right now.
But first answer this. What is a master channel?

>>110317940
It's the sum of all the other channels. It too has 2 channels internally.

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>>110317961
here's your hard left panned kick. https://vocaroo.com/19F1BSjOPLeU

here's the rendered to mp3 kick, uploaded back into the DAW, then hard panned right.
https://voca.ro/1bv45qWFkk10

no silence. just the same sound panned to where it was placed. no information destroyed.
what else? pic related is showing a hard panned sound being played

>>110317980
Then your DAW must have some kind of safeguard for precisely this kind of situation. Panning does not move stuff from one channel to the another. If your DAW does then yes, removing an IEM is not equivalent to it.

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There should be two pan knobs on a stereo channel for that kind of manipulation. Moving it with one is definitely not standard.

>>110317980
>>110318060
I can go back and forth and make new render after new render every time I hard pan and the result will still be the same. Just moving the sound to where it was placed. No information destroyed whatsoever.
>Panning does not move stuff from one channel to the another.
Yes the fuck it does. That is the definition of panning.
In a mono audio mix, nothing can be panned because it's stuck in mono.
What you should do, is stop taking all the guesswork into your own hands and forcing yourself to define it yourself as if you already know the theory. You don't. You can't cope your way out of this even after I did your experiment exactly how you told me to do it.

>>110318084
>I can go back and forth and make new render
I already said that if that's how your DAW works then it's not the same as removing an IEM.
>Yes the fuck it does. That is the definition of panning.
That is not the definition of panning. The definition of panning is potentiometer. It only changes the volume. To move from one channel to another you need two potentiometers. With each potentiometer splitting one input channel into two and adjusting their relative volume, the combining split channels.

>>110318148
A pan pot is not a balance knob. You're describing a stereo balance control. Turning down the volume of one side of a stereo signal until it disappears is called a balance control, not panning. Removing an IEM is not "panning". Running out of tokens?

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>>110318190
It's your DAW. Normal panning is like removing an IEM.

>>110318220
>Normal panning is like removing an IEM
lol. no.

>>110318235
Ran out of tokens? Look at the image I posted. The left channel was destroyed after "panning".

>>110318246
>The left channel was destroyed
It's your DAW.

By your logic, unplugging your left desktop speaker is "panning."

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>>110318257
2 DAWs.

>>110318278
You want me to do the same thing?
Render a sample from FL, import it into Audacity, hard-pan it left, export it to mp3 from Audacity, import it into Audacity and hard pan it right, export to mp3?
Correct?

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>>110318301
3 DAWs. It's your DAW that is moving from one channel to another. I do all panning on your drum file inside the DAW. I'm using audacity only to show the output of a DAW, I don't change anything in it.

>>110318266
Yeah, if we're talking about classical panning. I agree that there are other kinds of panning that can't be done like that. As long as the result is the movement of the stereo image it's all panning.

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Say hi to Sharur.

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>>110318398
Same vibes

>>110318384
Classical panning is a pan pot on a mixing console routing a signal between L/R buses. And by your newly invented definition, "as long as the result is the movement of the stereo image it's all panning", turning your head sideways, walking to the left side of your room, or getting an ear infection is now "panning" too. Just take the L instead of moving the goalposts.

JAES peer-review + PEQdB = endgame

>>110318517
>Classical panning is a pan pot on a mixing console routing a signal between L/R buses.
Classical panning is not routing anything, it's just changing the volume. With a potentiometer. Like in 3 different DAWs that I've shown. I could do more. "Newly invented" and people have been calling all kinds of techs panning for decades, as long as it moves shit in the stereo field. Again, your argument is that it's not labeled panning, not that it can't do what panning does. Ballzo doesn't even believe taking out one IEM is moving anything.

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>>110318522
Peer review some faceplates.

>>110317109
I wouldn't be using headpos even if it weren't destroying hair. It just sounds terrible. Bright and muddy at the same time.

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>>110314891
best basslet IEMs of today? I can't tolerate anything else.

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friendly reminder to download the 192 links in >>110301800

>mfw the world's most expensive pos gets blown away by $5 rice farmer drivers in measurements

>>110319589
stax iem. endgame

>>110318398
The only indian this board likes kek

>>110319848
idk who sharur is but whoever was responsible for me falling for the EO-IA500 meme and buying one needs to be fed to lions

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>dude just buy EO-IA500 it's endgame just buy a rig and eq out the channel imbalances and use my meme target and it'll sound ok
>mfw I could've just bought a castor and saved $80 and hours of time

ngl sharur deserves a class action lawsuit over reccing EO-IA500. so many people wasted their money and time just for a brown kid's izzat

>>110319943
Thats him kek

Sharur always changes his opinion to the opposite. And I don't mean once, he changes it to the opposite again later. Only newfags don't know this.

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In a sea of paggies, crinacle is the big pig. He has gear for days, no way he touching a 5$ Condom Zenith even with sterilized chopsticks

>>110320022
I think he was also selling "custom tuned" ones for 150

Meanwhile he is using lcd5 daily despite larping as a poor boy

>>110320486
iemfags live in a super echo chamber, it's extremely easy to ragebait them and make them buy $5 chinkbuds or anything really. How anyone still thinks sharur is remotely serious amazes me
i mean he made a 10 min video calling a topping dac bad because he took the batteries out of his remote, and some how even then people couldn't tell he was shitposting
autism really has gotten out of hand

>>110320409
sharur... I kneel. he got the Internet to buy the world's worst $5 shitbud for $80-150 before the kunten hype wave

>>110320553
this entire audiophile "hobby" is idol worship echo chambers. sharur knows this and starts abusing his authority day 0 as messiah like p. much any brownoid who gets a crumb of social status. anyone can pop out claiming they know what the best gear is and cite some misinterpreted/unduplicatable "science" and people will just await every word they say. audiofags just "trust" them. dumb fucks.

>>110320619
true, probably explains why you never hear of anyone going to audio stores and just trying shit out of for themselves now, instead they just have meltdowns defending whatever they own instead
it's so boring, regardless of what it is now thats the case, but whenever i find archived forums of early 2000's it's just people shitting on what they own,how they fixed it or what they bought instead, even random shit like crt monitor discussions like that existed
audio discussion post ASR is probably the most retarded thing to exist, can't mention half the headphones or speakers without some niggerlover quoting amir and his "conclusions"

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>>110320619
We all know what's actually the best gear.

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>he listened to pajeet
>he wasted his money on a samdung shitbud
>he has a used-once rig collecting dust in a corner
>he trusted the audio science and the muh true coaxial driver meme
>he wasted hours fixing channel imbalances with per-driver EQ
>he seriously thought EO-IA500 would be endgame with another 2 filters
>he missed out on kunten
>he missed out on .... any IEM at the same price from 2-3 years ago
>he earned a brown person his izzat while being strung along for months
>he finally abandoned his fixup project after sharur came clean and redeemed
>mfw he posts on iemg against his own mistake, wasted money and butthurt even though nobody fell for it
>mfw my fucking generic 2DD sounds normal like any other budget IEM

the funniest part is EO-IA500 owners will somehow blame KZ and all IEMs under $20 for this. they act like it's so expensive because they include the money they shelled out for a rig just to fix one OEM bud they thought would someday become endgame. just fucking sad all around

idk if sharur could pull it off again. i mean, the market was already saturated with sub $20 pos at the time, same as now. you could argue kunten was a response after the mass dissapointment. he already did damage to the reputation of all inexpensive low THD 1DDs by association (ie: price. because $ is a very audible metric) if sharur starts saying some $10 xiaomi or sony earbuds is endgame, at the very least people would wait a bit for other people to confirm first instead of immediately getting on line to receive their boosters like good slave cattle

>>110319271
Timeless 2 cost a little bit more, but seems better after have reading ton of reviews and checking out comparisons. Both are good ofc, but timeless 2 is a better fit for my uses.
Timeless 2 is more balanced
Timeless 2 is 5g per bud while Astralis is 7-8g
Timeless 2 is better for gaming

what do I buy on black friday

>>110318398
i know i'm in the minority here but i agree with him. i care about my hair as much as i do my nails

>>110321190
Linsoul have 11/11 sale now, so you can check it out already. Pretty sure it will be similar as black friday

some guys kill themselves over their hair thinning so it does matter though. in that case i would also use iemn

>>110316567
>>110318398
>made a video about baldness 2 hours after being called bald here
All audio discourse is downstream from /iemg/

>>110321211
if your going bald using iems aren't going to save you from genetics
unless your specific reason for balding isn't male pattern baldness and you have like an alergy to leather and your using leather headbands, or some weird other allergy with the same conditions

it's insane the new zoomer wave/alpha actually thinks they won't bald like their dad if they avoid headphones, as if their 60 year old dad who used speakers his entire life became bald over headphones he never used

>>110321286
yeah just figured using headphones could maybe speed it up slightly where the headband is, which is typically close to where it happens at the top of the head. if it's that important (it shouldnt be but it seems to be) i would want to avoid anything that could plausibly affect it negatively.
if they believe they're balding primarily due to headphones and not genetics then that is retarded yes

what really seperates the multikilobuck pos from the multihundredbuck pos and the sub 50 pos

>>110321361
THD

>>110321336
>if they believe they're balding primarily due to headphones and not genetics then that is retarded yes
god only knows what chinks use to cure their leather, like with western brands you can generally assume it's from some oem leather company but seeing as how bad chinkmetal is god only knows what their version of leather is kek
honestly wouldnt be surprised if a lot of shit comes out in 20-30 years with X poisoning people, considering the history of last 70 years

I play exclusively arcade rhythm games and I am sick and tired of all the other arcades sounds blending and bleeding into my play area. Those who know maimai can understand. What chink shitbuds should I get. Detachable cable would be great because there is the risk of ripping them out as you play because of hand movements.

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>>110321228
the meta of highres anime music to 11.2 to nos black pearl to 4.4 will soon emanate

you can literally download techs and load them into foobar2000. even mp3s and flacs counts as gear. source is the second part of the chain. do what you will with this esoteric knowledge

>>110321365
no meme answers

the one thing audiophiles overlooked all along was upgrading their music. your $2000 rig can be improved by not playing vocaloid on it

>>110321575
>>110321361
use to be for headphones and iems, going up into post +$500 ish meant exotic materials, for headphones it was things like leona plastic(hd 800) titanium headbands (aeons/ether) carbon fiber(prior) or real leather
for iems some used titanium like ck2000ti/cm2000ti(buds) but if your just using chinkshit for either headphone or iem they don't care and it's usually priced completely randomly, thats why you see like 80% discounts on some chinkfiman planars at various times
whether those things matter to you, or the other things that came with them is obviously subjective but tends to be more important than not if it's comfort based or you have something like a plastic allergy

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Did the $5 shitbud meme only catch on because of Crinacle? The state of the audio hobby when we need popular names to dictate everything we believe... If someone less famous said it, it would still just be some obscure untalked about thing.

Can anyone tell me if it's bad to use a dongle as a DAC into a headphone amp

>>110321675
depends on which both are, on my valhalla 2 the background noise is louder with apple dongle than modi 3+ but it's also pretty bad with modi multibit
if you don't notice it and it sounds fine your good
you can also change which bitrates your system allows if you start noticing poping or annoying sounds randomly, i always forget to do that on new pc resets and it drives me insane

epzp50 or daybreak

>>110321659
You're the only one spamming it nigga. The only actual $5 pos that caught on is shartur's pos.

>>110321463
Epz q1 pro
https://youtu.be/U2i_IuAB6wo

>>110321659
i think it was already close to the surface but that quote became a permission slip to collapse further and take the plunge. maybe it began as a meme for some but eventually became real through repetition. many such cases

Confirmed
We're preparing these items for shipping.
10 Nov at 0:03
Linsoul it have been 3 days ffs, why are you still preparing! Anyone ordered from Linsoul during sale have your stuff been sent yet and after how many days?

>>110321818
I bought odysey 2 and it was few days of waiting before they send it out. On hifigo still waiting for them despite ordering week ago. I think they had some sorts of a holiday there and in general more traffic.

>>110321818
So odysey 2 was send out after 4 days. Hifigo order was send after more than a week of waiting but thats probably on me as I ordered spare parts with that order.

>>110321898
Ok 1 extra day is fine, hopefully they will be sent. Unsure if they work weekends, but at worst it will be on monday for me. Thanks<3

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Is it even worth playing or just wait for 1.0?
Havent played in like 3 years.

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>>110321939
wrong thread disregard.

>>110321939
>>110321947
Play diablo 1.

SO whats the difference between EDC Pro and Daybreak? Is it a world of difference?

>>110321955
Oddysey 2 mogs daybreak sir

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>>110321714
EO-IA500 is the worst $5 shitbud of all time. Sharur was the problem, Crinacle is the solution.

>>110321981
>Scammer who shills 5usd stuff with dogshit quality and owns 5k USD sumit fi pos was the problem
How could it be

>>110321953
unc nowadays PoE2 is the king. Welcome to 1.0 release 11th December and its free.

Thanks to Crinacle, we were able to emerge from the Sharur EO-IA500 + rig moneywaste dark ages and spring into the $5 shitbud meta of modern times.

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>>110321981
It is atrocious but it's your fault people bought it instead of one of the good ones.

How do you even pronounce Kasier?

>>110322072
Anyone who bought EO-IA500 should buy a gun and splatter their brains or get a covid booster, for the genetic health of the race.

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>>110315013
thanks i bought all that crap and downloaded all the catboxes and lains and cracked poweramp, expecting endgame

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>>110322165
pagpag alert

>>110322203
I assure you this is miles better than EO-IA500 SAAAAR

>>110321967
by what margin?

>>110322212
>whataboutism
YOU are a pagpag. Sharur has audeze headphones and expensive speakers.

just buy edifier mr3 or hd600
you dont need anything else

Is the PS Vita a good music player?

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this crinacle fella seems to have great affection for multikilopos

>>110322275
no but peak handheld gayming

Crinacle mended the damage that Sharur caused

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>Sharur got ppl to waste their money on counterfeit EO-IA500s and measurement rigs

>>110322243
That just means the well-poisoning was intentional.

Sharur ALMOST got away with it until the Crinacle meta washed it out.

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>jeet causes an audio catastrophe leading to counterfeits, supply issues and mislead purchases by retards who trust the science
>KZ swoops in and fixes it by releasing Kunten
Nice save. KZ literally saved audio.

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The protective cover mesh on my Tangzu Waner 2 is coming off. One day it will somehow fall off and enter my ear canal with it's glue sticking to some place that's harsh to reach. In the mean time, is EPZ Q1 Pro a good recommendation for me to buy or would it be better if I shell out a bit more money?

>>110322502
>counterfeits, supply issues and mislead purchases
KZ was doing this shit since day one.

>>110322263
Use case for head dent 600?

>>110322570
>whataboutism
YOU are a paypig. Oink oink oink oink oink oink

>>110322298
By making his own brand that only sells $100+ IEMs.

KZ is a psyop to make people think other cheap IEMs are trash too.

>>110322616
paypig > pagpag

>>110322750
except ppl bought Kunten after the EO-IA500 tragedy

>>110322502
the kinds of people who bought sharurs iems are the same people who use tiktok shop, buy crt vhs tvs for $500, buy ipods, buy casette walkmans, and pokemon cards
they spend a week-1m in any given hobby before buying something else. You can find them on reddit on any of the retro consoomer boards, they literally never stop and most are trannies it's really something. You can get them to buy literally anything if you make a tiktok or youtube video on a subject

>>110322580
this is true. can confirm dent

>>110322961
How do I avoid this? Does wearing a cap all the time work? I have a permanent dent in my scalp from 16 hours of headpos use everyday. Why does this even happen? Am I smoothbrained? It has deformed like jelly.

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>>110322580
fan art

>>110322986
Suspension strap, also don't blast your ears with anything for that long

>>110322986
>Why does this even happen?
the oil in your hair keeps the position

>>110322989
I don't approve bald anime girls.

>>110322869
if they want authentic retro pos they should get stax

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>>110323335
I listen at very low volumes. Any recs for suspension strap pos?
>>110323494
Huh?

EO-IA500 is the funniest page in the iem saga. Thousands of iem users got psyopped by a literal Indian with fake science who now have to justify their worthless measuring rig purchases on top of having a fake OEM earbud. Then chinks had to rush in to save audio after it got jeeted.

>>110323694
you forget the great iphone massacre

>>110323694
I equate this to the covid vaccine. Look up audio science autists' history to see if they fell for it. If they did, you no longer have to take them seriously. Sharur gets enough izzat to become brahmin in his next life.

>>110323608 see >>110315170

>>110323690
>I listen at very low volumes. Any recs for suspension strap pos?
not anon but
r70xa for open dd, aeons for planars, lcd 2s also but they weigh literally 2x aeons
you could also use 3d wing shit from audio technica as they have like 500 models of it, but it's not very comfortable

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Audio is subjective. So what's the point?

>>110324072
We have an Indian with science.

>>110324072
>So what's the point?
Fox.

>>110323823
iems, asr and iemg basically live in the sharur aftermath

>>110319471
>It just sounds terrible. Bright and muddy at the same time.
Really? I'm >>110316193 so haven't tried so much stuff but IEMs sound way brighter to me than my FT1 headphones do. The FT1 definitely sounds muddier with less detail though, but I figured that's because it's a cheaper headset. Have u tried more expensive headsets?

I know I said in that post that the Arete 2 is the best sounding piece of audio kit I've bought but I actually meant that in terms of IEMs. I usually still prefer the FT1 just because I can put it louder without it hurting my ears. With IEMs I'm a bit limited because they can make my ears ring even at low volume. Actually there are times I prefer Arete 2 and times I prefer FT1, it just depends on the kind of sound signature I want at the time.

I guess if you're really after detail retrieval IEMs will probably usually win over headphones.

>>110324160
That sharur guy is a troll isn't he?

>>110324325
It'd require a long discussion on how Indians perceive "trolling" but the thread's wrapping up.

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Should I get:
>Yu9 Que
>7hz Timeless II
>ZiiGaat Odyssey

>>110324915
edc pro autoeqd to odyssey 2

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ordered this. what am I in for?

Sony NW-A55

>>110325245
liar