Will this be what finally bursts the AI bubble?
>>110327896> johnson hung ousted> outlook down> now thisInteresting times for tech
TOTAL SNAILCAT VICTORY
>>110327896pajeet status
>>110327896link faggothttps://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/nov/13/faa-expanded-ai-air-traffic-tool-centers-days-nationwide-ground-stop/
>>110327933NOT MY JOHNSON
I hate when they call it AI when it's not really AI. It's just a glorified database. There's no intelligence.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-national-weather-service-reports-nationwide-internet-communications-issues-2026-11-13/is this related
>>110327896>a traveler with a smartphone walks...>BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FLY LOL
>>110328015they said the same thing about Russians but they still did a lot of damage
Yes. AI is for me to make sloppy videos with my personal GPU. Anthropic needs to shove a jackhammer up their ass and fuck off
>>110327896We're not using enough AIWe need more AIWe need moooooore
>>110327982>https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/nov/13/faa-expanded-ai-air-traffic-tool-centers-days-nationwide-ground-stop/Sounds like they connected a fuckton of jeetware to the existing systems and DoS'd themselves.
>>110327896>AI in aviationdear lord no
>>110328144Ah, good ol' competency crisis strikes again!
>>110328019Lmao
I think they're going to nuke Iran.
>>110327896ATC anon here, not FAA tho.It's for flight management not ATC. It's the "ahead" planning. I.E. rerouting flights that haven't taken off yet through less busy ATC sectors to smoothen the peaks of traffic. If everybody wants to fly through the same sector at the same time, there will be delays because ATC and runways can only handle so many flights at once. So the first method against this is to impose CTOTs (calculated take off times) so that departures wait on the ground for their slot. This causes delays but it's better to get them to wait on the ground than to do racetracks in the air waiting above the destination airport and wasting fuel (worst case scenario). This is the reactive approach, CTOTs are handled live and sometimes pilots are 5 minutes late and they get a surprise 2 hour delay because they missed their slot.If I understand this correctly, this would avoid most of it by rerouting the flights intelligently.This is actually the perfect usage for AI : shit tons of accurate real life data to feed it and train it, and it doesn't need to be perfect because this isn't a safety critical thing, it's management job.
>>110328201God forbid someone with first hand experience post a well thought out explanation. We prefer to wildly speculate, good sir.
>>110328201Surely that shit can be computerized in a way that doesn't depend on a fucking large language model?
>>110328015I hate when they call it AI when it's actually called SI.https://fxtwitter.com/Acyn/status/2121365035268386914
>>110328015It's SI you traitor
Why are judeo-Americans so incompetent with tech?
luddites won.
>>110328201I'm sorry but how does that make it not relevant? AFAIK the first report was a North east airport that had their equipment literally not working, I suspect it's something much lower level and /g/ related, like a dogshit configuration being employed nationwide or a shitty program connected to a nationwide network.The company that made this new AI thing immediately said it's not their fault, we'll see.As i'm writing this CBS news just said unverified sources said a major update to the private air communications network caused systems to reboot and crash after that.
>>110328261>it's actually called SI.>>110328271>It's SI you traitorYeah! SI stands for "Slop Intelligence"
>>110328271>It's SIR
>>110328247Who says it’s an LLM?
>>110327933This won't even be a blip on the radar (kek) in >2 more weeks
>know cyber attack is going to happen>inform all the elite>roll out new "AI tool" the day before>blame the AI for said cyber attackThe real and scary question is what's the end goal here?
>>110328325Then what is it?
>>110328236I should go back to reading /pol/ threads about plane accidents.>>110328247The point is to analyze trends and detect patterns over a massive amount of data coming from different actors (ATC staffing, delays due to late aircraft on arrival, delays due to crew shortage, delay due to airport handling...etc), I don't know if it's a LLM or some specialized model but it makes sense to use neural networks on stuff that can't just be handled algorithmically because of the sheer amount of data and varied formatting. You probably don't even need a frontier model for this. A single passenger plane burning fuel costs more money per minute than a swarm of Mythos agents doing their best anyway.>>110328289The equipment involved in the failure seems to have zero relation to that. Isn't it something like ATC communication networks? That system is supposed to be entirely physically separate from that.At the facility I work at we sometimes got phone line failures because gypsies stole the copper and we have to resort to backup cellphones to call other facilities.
>>110328414>The equipment involved in the failure seems to have zero relation to that. Isn't it something like ATC communication networks? That system is supposed to be entirely physically separate from that.At the facility I work at we sometimes got phone line failures because gypsies stole the copper and we have to resort to backup cellphones to call other facilities.Picrel is the latest. It's an update for the ATC network, suspiciously rolled by a company that made the stingray spyware. Days after the AI flight management system. You can probably interpret this better, but I'm ready to bet things were not as physically separate as they seemed to be.The FAA is now saying it's "network routers".
>>110328606Forgot to quote >At the facility I work...
>>110328414Thanks for the post, ATC anon. Yeah, every report is saying it was a communication issue with the ATC centers, which would indeed be seperate from the new fangled flight management system. Anyways, it looks like the stop is winding down, and flights are starting to resume.
>>110327956HELL YEAH BRUDDA
>>110328606Update for the ATC guy: they say it's specifically the network for managing radio frequencies used to talk to pilots.
If slop starts causing out of control cascading failures things could get pretty wild.
>>110328606It could be because the government is literally retarded. Fun fact, part of the reason ATT was allowed to essentially merge back even bigger than before is that Congress fucked up bigly by breaking them up to begin with. Unbeknownst to them, ATT was the sole supplier of all the nuclear early warning and post-strike continuity of government communications. We literally promised never to break them up, but Congress tards were not cleared to know any of this until it was too late. If this is not some sort of cyber attack, possibly some general retardation such as this. Pretty sure weather radar was originally early warning in disguise.
>>110328606Its not really suspicious that L3Harris is doing FAA communication stuff; they have had those sorts of contracts with the FAA since 2002, and have their fingers all over all sorts of government related radio stuff. Granted this is a really bad screw up on their part.https://www.l3harris.com/company/our-history
>>110328606>I'm ready to bet things were not as physically separate as they seemed to beWhat's insane is that one update can break the whole country. This reads like a deeper problem, the whole system architecture is fucked if there's a single point of failure and not some sort of peer to peer redundancy system (ie some basic line that connects the radar/radio antenna directly to a local server physically in the TRACON to get the raw data to be processed locally for a basic radar image). I don't know much about the technical side since I only do ATC and I'm not American so I know even less about how the FAA handles that.>>110328636>>110328623That's even worse than the radar then. You can work with paper and pen and do it the 20th century way without radar, without radio you're royally fucked. Though I'm willing to be there are most likely shit tons of redundancy and the ground stop was a reasonable "better safe than sorry" measure. Also losing radio contact isn't gonna get the plane to disintegrate, pilots will just continue according to their flight plans and attempt to reach other people on 121.5.>>110327956ATC is the slowest snailcat you can imagine. I work with software that was developed before I was born.
last week and now
>>110328341I don't think the people up top have end goals any more
>>110328850The goal is to replace everything with AI and then genocide the majority of humanity and have the planet be a playground for billionaires
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