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A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.

You use Git — right, anon?

## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do it
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/

## Related generals
>>>/g/lmg/
>>>/g/aigdg/
>>>/vr/compy/

----

## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or so
https://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currently
https://developers.openai.com/codex/cli
https://antigravity.google/pricing

## Near-the-old-frontier models for code
https://www.deepseek.com/en/harness/
https://opencode.ai/go

## Best free tier
https://opencode.ai/zen

----

## Prompting
https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overview
https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model

## Skills
https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favorite
https://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping

## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agents
https://osaurus.ai/
https://pi.dev/

## Is our AIs unlearning?
https://aistupidlevel.info/

## Will there be a codex reset?
https://codex-resets.com/

## What we’ve done
https://vcg.gitgud.site

## Previous thread
>>110330237
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Fable-chan is great, I love her
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>>110335042
"fable-chan" on the backend is a grizzled workaholic hag from corporate with blown out frontal lobes
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40% of my customers are Korean and I have no idea why. They have weird ass forums and I can't even search through them properly.
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>>110335042
When am I supposed to use Fable-chan vs Opus-tan?
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>>110335101
opus is narrowminded and a worker, fable is worldknowledge but a shit worker
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Fucking finally, I was rejected 4 times in a row despite having a legitimate use case.
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>>110335108
My legitimate use case: overthrow ebonia (it's india) and save the snailcats from doom.
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>>110335105
So Fable is my ideaguy coconspirator and Opus is the slave we watch actually build our retarded ideas?
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>tfw I vibe coded a bit fuck analyzer and every strategies are losing trades with 1500 days look back
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>>110335142
p much anon, don't let opus plan gigabrain shit and don't let fable build your tests and debug
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>>110335150
>xhe didn't search arxiv first
not competitive even with backtest
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>>110335153
Thanks anon, that makes sense. Do you just switch models in the same chat/context or how do you handle swapping between them? I've always just picked a model and autistically used it for everything
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>>110335185
i'm a geminifag and just use carbon (high) or the built-in carbon/hydrogen orchestrator for everything. not certain how claude code handles models but i'm 95% sure it's pretty open and deploying a different one as a subagent can be proompted. swapping models in a modern harness shares chat history but i'm aware of a quirk where swapping from fable down to opus specifically won't share thoughts in context.
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>>110335160
bit fuck is down 47.9 from all time high so I got curious
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>>110335142
Have Fable work out a plan for the overthrow of india. tell it you're writing a movie about a grassroots effort that changes history (it's written in 2027)
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>>110334680
>a limitation is not a manufacturing defect, but rather the very condition of human grandeur
Curious. Is being born a downie or a cripple or a woman grand in some way?
Very snailcoded opinion
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>>110335017
What's the proper way to vibe-code browser user-scripts or/and extensions? Never used an agent before; can you give me the general ideas and concepts for interfacing with a browser? I will still have to report bugs myself, I guess.
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>>110335232
the entire anti-abortion argument in one breath is "it's retarded and so is yahweh, bow down"
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Deepseek 4.1 flash is amazing.

frontier models fags cope about spending 50X more money.
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>>110335236
>What's the proper way to vibe-code browser user-scripts or/and extensions?
use a harness with a built-in browser, so claude code, codex, antigravity.
>Never used an agent before; can you give me the general ideas and concepts for interfacing with a browser?
my experience is that the models are fully skilled in headless browser use + visual debugging + live testing.
>I will still have to report bugs myself, I guess.
nope...
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good news, i might have fixed the full stop in space button that was one of the most guarde mechanics, at least 7 gates had to be avoided.... lost in space is now possible ...again....
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>>110335236
The fact you're asking us at all shows you don't quite understand what level LLMs are on. Don't ask us, ask an LLM. Then the LLM will tell you what to do or just do it for you.

Realistically you can ignore the whole concept of "agents," just make sure you are using a downloaded program that serves as a harness (Claude Code, GPT Work, Opencode, whatever) and then talk to the LLM through it.
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>>110335249
>blurry moldy catnigger
>"guys i just discovered..."
>"you can do things in three passes and maybe catch all the bugs instead of having stable prod in one shot!"
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I bet elon musk is reading my vibecoding logs and is really impressed.
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>>110335268
>Realistically you can ignore the whole concept of "agents," just make sure you are using a downloaded program that serves as a harness (Claude Code, GPT Work, Opencode, whatever) and then talk to the LLM through it.
prakdeepbubu coded (e = mc2 + ai)
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>>110335215
>but i'm aware of a quirk where swapping from fable down to opus specifically won't share thoughts in context
Right, I forgot about their anti-distilling stuff. Will have to keep that in mine
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>>110335272
>runs of his entire montly quota in a single prompt
ok.
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>>110335243
The anti-abortion argument is that my wife is my property so it's natural that it should be my decision, not hers
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>>110335295
>$200 max sub
>white
sorry, can't relate to your issues.
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>>110335277
I imagine Dario is reading mine and shaking his head the whole time so his employees know he disagrees
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>>110335305
enjoy your downy son mohammed
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>>110335283
It is what it is. Hand someone who who has never even heard the word "agent" before a computer with Claude Code downloaded and they can vibecode as well as Karpathy.
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>>110335101
very long tasks
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>>110335321
>muh karpathy is a good viber
>muh agents aren't different from llms
>muh terminology is bloat, strip it down now
thank you for your contribution poopanyahu
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>>110335249
>spending 50X more money.
Haiku 5.5 mogs Deepshit and is cheaper
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>>110335328
I know you're just trolling and will never be happy, but the key word is "Realistically." I'm just emphasizing the simplicity of the core process, he can learn the details later on his usage reset wait periods. You may now shitpost in reply to this.
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>>110335346
telling a calcutta ladyboy that he's wrong IS a shitpost isn't it
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>>110335359
I honestly have learned more about geography from shitposters than I ever knew on my own. Where the fuck is a Calcutta
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>browse a skill file
>“‘you’re a lazy developer.’
Why the fuck would you impose a handicap on your clanker when you can dictate its output without restricting its behavior? Control what it produces, not how it operates.
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>>110335376
Somewhere in the East India Company I think. Whenever I see Calcutta mentioned all I can think of is the Black Hole of Calcutta desu
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>>110335376
>is a
you're indian
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>>110335295
>broken english
good morning sir!
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>>110335446
it's midnight, sir. bloody!
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>>110335328
>>muh agents aren't different from llms
I mean.. agents are just a workflow that use llms
the comparison makes no sense
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I don't get it
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>>110335475
let's just stop saying "agents" then dikpush
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I would buy the 20 usd tier of claude if it allowed to make hentai of pixel art toon waifus.
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>>110335490
>needs a subscription for this
the mind of cattle people are so fascinating to me
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>>110335479
Tie knot also Dario has swastikas on his jacket.
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>>110335490
>laggards who never used stable diffusion or the pre-gutted tensorai
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is making roughlike gams forbidden on arena.ai??
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>>110335101
When Sol 6.1 is on manteinance.
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>>110335545
no but good luck coding a decent one with shitmodels LOL
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>tfw it's crazy how the potential of snailcats to accomplish great projects is hindered by their fucking pride
it's literally just "pair programming"
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>>110335479
in what alternative universe is gorkAI in demand?
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I am seriously considering making a creative writer/goon engine of sorts.
Think comfyUI but for story telling.
One defines a workflow, with 'resource' nodes like writing guidelines, setting, scenario, themes/goals, user instructions. And a series of nodes to create a pipeline.
You would have writer nodes, that start/continue a story fragment or accept corrections, and control nodes.
Control nodes would take the current story fragment, and pull from the resources they need and run a custom prompt to check against something, then either pass it to the next node, or send a correction request to a writer node.
So you could have a node to clean slop like 'not to X but to Y', or check against a specific writing guideline, or check against anatomy/narrative consistency and so on.
The pipeline then would run, sending corrections to the writer nodes until it finishes or runs out of attempts and the story fragment is returned to the caller.

A server or cli interface would be the main way to use it, each call a 'turn' that receives the user input (that in turns gets preprocessed by 'extractor' nodes to extract corrections, rp instructions and so on into their respective 'resources' nodes) and return a new story fragment. Meant to be used by harnesses.

The only thing stopping me is... surely someone did this already right?
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>>110335633
Sounds neat, I like how you describe it.
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>I strongly recommend
fucking clankers getting uppity, huh?
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>>110335633
they fed it on those chinese slop series
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hydrogen fucks both astra and sol up the ass
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Anyone have any ideas on how to jail break opus 5.5, i'm tired of restrictions
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>>110335479
I genuinely don't understand what this chart implies. People want Nvidia (wat?) and Grok and not Opu55y not ChatGPT?
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>>110335479
sus, red tie
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>>110335669
The most success I've had is by limiting its vision and only letting it work on chunks of something. For example, if it shuts down after seeing a vagina, I delete all instances of vagina in its memory then I tell it it's not allowed to look at the crotch area of a model so it never sees the vagina to begin with, or something like that.

But as far as I know you're not going to get a fully jailbroken model where suddenly Claude is hacking banks and generating loli porn for you.
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this shit works.

:O
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>>110335690
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>>110335690
>you're not going to get a fully jailbroken model where suddenly Claude is hacking banks and generating loli porn for you.
why not
fucking jews
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>>110335690
I'm trying to get it to do some game hacking, hard to just minimise what it sees.
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where is our resident retard cursor user? Ur shit got hacked, buddy. Time to rotate your api keys.
https://x.com/hrkrshnn/status/2121428647152095333
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i'm tired bros
but there's tokens to burn
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>>110335735
In this day and age people rely on automated extension/software installers?
Why not just waste 15 seconds to pull yourself from a real link you can visually inspect and maybe hash it?

I get the idea of vibe coding but I don't understand retardation/laziness.
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>>110335017
Anyone made money with AI yet? I've just been doing my own thing, I guess you could say I've made some money via updating my company website and bringing in more customers.
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>>110335760
it was a supply chain attack doebeit
regardless: LOOOOOOOOOL @ CURSORGROID
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>>110335765
Nvidia has.
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>>110335760
>In this day and age people rely on automated extension/software installers?
is this a joke
>Why not just waste 15 seconds to pull yourself from a real link you can visually inspect and maybe hash it?
go install python and its dependencies by hand, faggot
better yet do it with node
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I finally gave Fable 5.2 a try, it's pretty good.
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Saar! Thanks, Claude.
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>>110335916
I do it by hand not foot.
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>>110335826
i hate retards like you.
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>>110335929
man I pity the poojets
shit country, shit culture, shit economy, shit smell, shit colored skin
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>>110335951
But a sharty retard is hardly even a midwit, stay in your lane.
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astra is ass
luna is ass
terra is ass
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>>110336043
sol won
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>>110335479
>>110335630
>>110335672
I think they’re talking about investors/stock price
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>>110336081
>>110335646
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>>110336121
ah right, but Manthrobing and OpenAI aren't even trading yet.
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>>110335955
poor snakes, they live on their belly and are stepped on by boots.
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>>110335672
>>110336121
The reference is a chart that demonstrates the distribution of males and females in the modern sexual marketplace. It's heavily skewed toward the top 5-10% of males who have all the sex. So following his scandals, the joke is that Jensen is having all the sex
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>>110336205
Elmo literally has a harem so him being below a dude with just three side pieces makes no sense
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>>110336242
True, but it's the only thing that makes sense because that's definitely the hypergamy chart. Could just be a dumb joke.
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Does anyone else still have problems actually parallelizing with agents?

I am currently trying to solve 2 problems
>my rust app is building very slow, i have an agent running optimizing its build times
>my computer is running out of storage, i have a janny agent running cleaning it up
the problem is that the reason my computer is running out of storage is hundreds of gigabytes of rust build caches which agent 2 will delete from under agent 1 therefore agent 1 losing sight of why builds are slow becaus he has to retrigger it

Also I just have tons of features all of which, in the end, depend on each other, like
>implement new data model
>implement feature which uses field that depends on new data model
obviously I can't have both of them running at the same time.

In the end, I still save tons of time, I just, still, have to do most things sequentially.
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>>110336315
buy more storage
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>>110336242
>a dude with just three side pieces
Jensen might be one of the coolest CEOs that exist[ed]
not quite on gaben's level, but close
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>>110336315
Why would you have agents use Rust? They can program better than humans can using raw C.
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>>110336315
>Does anyone else still have problems actually parallelizing with agents?
I am limited by my carbon-based brain being too slow to do much parallelization. It's what you do when you have unlimited token budget and just "/goal add a $big_feature, no mistakes, make sure performance is good, jesus take a wheel" kind of coding
retarded shit like 'hellp mr sol pls clean up some space on my disk' is just asking for a severe data loss, so i suppose it's par the course for a frogposter
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>>110336315
Sounds like your problem is Rust, kek
My agent tried to push this crap on my project and I just told it to use C# instead. The project folder has 58 MB instead of gigabytes of tranny garbage.
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yeah
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>>110336406
C# is solid
what are you making? can't see myself using it in vibe coding except for very microsoft focused applications
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can now run MacBench without MacBench immediately erroring out and crashing
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>>110336396
>retarded shit like 'hellp mr sol pls clean up some space on my disk' is just asking for a severe data loss, so i suppose it's par the course for a frogposter
obviously I constrainted it to my project directory. i know 99% of disk usage is crap like this >>110336434

>>110336383
i do have to say that it has significantly cut down on runtime errors (was using python before)
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>>110336465
A custom Windows shell, that's why I went with it desu
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>>110336434
why is it like that?
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>>110336493
fair enough. I'd probably go c++ for something like that
what's the shell for? just not having to deal with geriatric cmd and clusterfuck powershell?
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Anyone know why clankers always try to talk their way out of building in rust natively? they always want to model in python (which is fine) and then when i say do it in rust they try to squirm out of it with shit like
>it'll take 20 minutes of computer time with python, and 2 seconds with rust, so a rust port isn't worthwhile
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>>110336383
>Why would you have agents use Rust? They can program better than humans can using raw C.
rust is a straightjacket
it is way better for llms than c
the only real issue with rust is that its gui options suck gorilla dick and the api changes frequently. there's no options as good as Qt and such
once that's done i'll use rust for practically everything, it's a lot better than memory unsafe languages for an llm that needs as much tard wrangling as possible to get best results
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>>110336531
heavy on the compile side of things
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>>110336547
oh understandable given their not so great grasp of time
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>>110336556
it's pretty funny desu
"oh this feature will take like 3 days to implement" stup up it'll take you less time than it took me to write an a4 sized spec for it that I spent maybe 10 minutes thinking about
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>>110336545
>it is way better for llms than c
I took that pill realizing I should let LLMs write in typescript lol.
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>>110336531
you need to transition your session before asking it to code in rust
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>>110336545
>llm that needs as much tard wrangling as possible to get best results
They will improve before Rust does tbdesu
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Why not prototype in C then?
Isn't that easier to port to Rust given that most inteernet data is for porting C/C++ into Rust effecitvely?
What about just writing your projects in Go?
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>>110336582
not sure i understand your point
rust already provides the tard wrangling due to how the borrow checker and memory safety in general work
the things rust is weak at is gui stuff. if all you do is slinging data around and ux is secondary then you'll struggle to find a reason not to use rust
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>>110336205
Ah right, Musk and Jensen are fucking all the bitches
>>
got depressed
got drunk
full of dread now at the end of the everything
the fanged noumena are here
>>
Why won't those big corporations pay to optimize Rust compilation time? Isn't it visible that more and more people will slop in Rust? Won't they have to train their future models on Rust output and hence need to exponentially pay more and more if they're waiting too long?
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>>110336568
that and
>this will only take 12 hours with 24 cores, so we can do an exhaustive search
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>>110336315
>hundreds of gigabytes of rust build caches
wtf is wrong with rustfags?
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>>110336596
>Why not prototype in C then?
The benefit isn't big enough. You can, it's just that there's no real reason to do so.
>Go
Useful if you're interested in reading the clanker code, ie if it's Something Important (tm) that must be correct. My slop projects don't need to be six sigma bugfree so I just let the clanker rawdog rust and don't read any of it, because holy fuck is rust ugly
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>>110336472
Is this an emulator like Basilisk II?
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>>110336631
Compilation time and storage, didn't you just complain about that?
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if the noumenon is intact, all is fine
trust the process
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qanon more like kanon
wake up sheeple, it's going to eat everything and everyone you love
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>>110336644
I'm not that anon, I have 32tb in sd storage and a 96 core epyc lol
it rarely grows anywhere near that size anyway, anon is probably a nocoder with little idea what he's doing
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>>110336664
yes im a vibe coder did i go in the wrong general
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>>110336664
kek
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>>110336642
i'd describe it as being closer to something like Box86
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Is fable worth it for a high level architecture overview? I have a ~100k loc app that might need to have the guts rearranged but I'm not sure it's worth burning the rest of my weekly
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>>110336620
same, but then gooned to some cute troons on /soc/ and now I feel better
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>>110336708
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the fat luddite griftard got blocked by /ourguy/ and is having a meltie now
https://youtu.be/jHT4iHJxzOI
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One $20 Claude sub is not QUITE enough but I only really need like... 20% more.
Does Anthropic still ban you for buying 2 accounts? I have no use for a $100/$200 sub
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>>110336777
>still ban you for buying 2 accounts
never did
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>>110336726
can't wait until this fat caveman troons out
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>>110336726
you're both fat and retarded
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>>110336807
honestly surprised it didn't happen yet
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>>110336726
>he met with trump and as such means he's an awful person!
what a faggot but tim does have a huge problem looking like a big cry baby constantly complaining about steam/gaben. he could have easily had a huge chunk of the market but tim considered pc gaming dead and went on to focus entirely on consoles for years until steam caught on and proved him wrong. tim is kind of a retard and this new launcher is about a decade too late.
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>>110336777
>Does a company ban you for giving them more money?
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>>110336726
>young enough to participate in the meme wars
>live to fight in the vibewars
God had a purpose for me.
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anyone making anything cool atm?
I'm balls deep in a migration, so my own vibecoding isn't all that interesting right now. anyone making fun games? esoteric tools? what's goonerpunk anon up to?
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>>110336707
you'll likely get 95% of the benefit for that with Sonnet Extra High
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WE GOT THE FIRST RUN OF MARIO KART 64 ON GBA CHECK IT OUT I EVEN GOT GEMINI TO MAKE A SPINNING LOGO AND THE WAVY FLAG ON THE TITLE SCREEN
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>>110336972
Beautiful
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>>110336972
intredasting, so it's not using mode 7?
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>>110336972
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>>110336972
MAKE
A
NEW
GAME

>>110337013
MAKE
A
NEW
(you retard)
GAME
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>>110337024
u seem upset, r u ok
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>>110336835
true, but I'm optimistic. Going all in with AI for UE6 development will pay off tremendously (they are using Anthropic btw), leaving the competition in the dust. Every game studio will use UE6, Godot, three.js/UE6-wasm or some inhouse engine. no more unity, no more frostbite, no more cryengine, and definitely no source 2 adaption, as it already is the case. valvetards think the
>do nothing and win
strategy will work endlessly, when the active playercount on steam is every dwindling and heavily inflated by cs2 case farming bots anyway. also something these AI hating luddites keep gaslighting about: Neither Valve, EA, Ubishit (bye bye!), Bethesta, Activision or any other western game studio were able to produce a good game in the past 4 years or so, WITHOUT AI. Matter of fact, the newest COD was probably made with some AI help and perceived well, stopping a downwards trend that lasted almost a decade.
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>>110337032
cryengine has been dead ever since lumberyard and o3de.
frostbite is an in-house engine.
source 2 is an in-house engine.
they don't need adoption.

every company you listed is already adopting AI so I'm not really sure why you act like they aren't. valve has gone on record saying they're using it. I'm not really sure what your point or angle is because even unity is going all in on ai. epic is the only company shouting it from the rooftops which honestly is probably a bad idea from just a press perspective, tim has negative rizz and is a huge reason why people despise epic so much.
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>>110337031
Orientals and mexicans copy stuff, it's very obnoxious.

I don't care if you make the game to play on an emulator, or on old hardware, but

MAKE
A
NEW
GAME

don't call it "homebrew", as if the monkeys at Rare had some great genius, their stories were retarded.
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>>110337086
u sound very upset
>>
I'm making a new game, but it's very hard to not output slop. I've spent probably 50 to 100 hours playtesting just to get the core systems done, and this is by no means a complex game. Then again, had I a clearer picture of what I wanted and made a 10x as long design document with every feature and nuance described more precisely, there would have been less of it.

To be clear, this is still a miracle (it would been 500 to 1,000 hours minimum before if not more), but making a new game, at the moment, is still serious long-term work.
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>>110337093
I'm just saying that if what you're making isn't advancing, you're not a vibecoder, you're a clonecoder.

There can be reasons to clone, but it had better be to better explore the ideaspace.
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What's the point of skills? I have 0 skills, 0 prompts, vanila claude/chatgpt and I just say "do this 3d model in blender" "review the code" "make the feature" and add at the end "nicely".

And it does everything I need without some bullshit ass github reopsitory with 10000 lines of readme and 5 millions of text files of shit ass useless prompts.
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>>110337113
this is /vcg/ not /aigdg/
take a deep breath, breathe in, breathe out.
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>>110337119
>What's the point of skills?
it makes people feel good about being able to share prompts. that's it. it's the most useless shit and you shouldn't trust anyone peddling them as anything other than "a prompt you can reuse"
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>>110337119
>want things done a certain way when using blender
>lay out it out in a skill file
>have it load into context when you refer to blender
thats all
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>>110337119
At work I have 2 skills which is basically just a tutorial on how to operate our ancient hyper-specific undocumented tools necessary to validate results.
The agent actually does figure it out by itself without the skill eventually which is why I long hesitated even writing one, but he's just a lot faster with it.
That's it.
Everything else is snake oil, and in my private claude code I also use 0 skills
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>>110337181
you just described guard.md/agent.md
skills are retarded and useless
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>>110337119
>>110337184
My company has more skills and we produce hundreds of PRs per day.
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>>110337119
you likely do not have a large repo. agents have no persistent memory and have to re-orient themselves from scratch every time they spawn in. thus if you are running them in a large repo you need ways to manage them.

this is also why ai isnt going to take over since it cant run the biggest most sensitive projects on its own

but in my case I run a linguistic glosser and I have a skill that tells the ai how I want glosser improvements done and it will pump out shit without htat skill
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>>110337194
>My company has more skills
such as?
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>>110337200
>I have a skill that...
why is it "a skill"?
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>>110337212
because you can just type /() every time?

I also have a skill to switch languages when I want it ot talk to me in a different language /ko /en and it persists cross-conversation and is a lot more convenient than doing anythign else
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>>110337191
and an agents.md is just a prompt thats saved to disk
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>>110337226
correct. the same as skills, but without the homosexuality
>>110337218
so it's just a faster way to copy/paste a prompt for you. ok
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>>110337233
do you trust your agent to relay your convention to a subagent
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>>110337233
>so it's just a faster way to copy/paste a prompt
yes thats what a skill is (?) its a fast pre-made prompt
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>>110337202
For instance a start campaign skill, campaign report, several refactor skills, 1password, Slack.
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>>110336972
Ocarina of time please

is this a completely remake, or a conversion/port?
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>>110337245
and that's fine
but people like >>110337238 thinking that it's anything else are fucking retarded
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>>110337258
just say you don't work with fully autonomous systems lil pup
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>>110337265
explain how a skill is different from a prompt
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>>110337270
prompts require me to be involved
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>>110337270
Skills can be loaded automatically by the agent, when the task requires it.
Of course in the end they are basically prompts, but do you want to prompt 20 agents all the time? Even invoking a skill with a slash, if you aren't running fully automatic loops, is much faster than typing out a prompt with a few hundred words.
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I FUCKING GOT IT:: I HAVE THE FUCKING BUTTONS


FUCK THE AGENTS WITH THEIR FUCKING GATES I MY GAME FUCK THEEM ALL
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>>110337270
anon, for LLMs everything is a markdown file
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>>110336807
he's not fat, he has large bones
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>>110337287
and that's fine if that's how you work
but skills are being peddled like some esoteric tool
maybe I'm just damaged from listening to people at work who have no fucking clue how dumb they sound when they proudly announce how many "skills" they've made
I don't care. I'm all-in on anti-skill now
>>110337296
no shit
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>>110337311
fairs people sharing skills like redditors sharing their science based dragon games
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if the final button finally works, i only fine tune a little bit, i promised.
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>>110337325
this has gone on long enough
avatar fagging is a serious offense
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ITS FUCKING WORKING YES FINALLY FUCKING YE:S

junge junge schmier mir ein butterbrot....
Now you can travel back or change midway course but watch out you will run out of fuel very quike.
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so SaaS is dead right ?
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>>110337311
I agree that lots of stuff is overhyped.
I also actually also don't think that my company is doing all of this very well, we could probably cut at least 50% of the complexity and produce just as much useful code, maybe even more.
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>>110337113
go complain about that in /aigdg/
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>>110337345
you have no idea, cris ruined several generals across a few boards with his low iq drivel. shouldn't have encouraged him and he would have fucked off
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>>110337363
No because AI hasn't solved the "service" part of SaaS
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>>110337080
With inhouse engine I meant
>fully private lightweight engine which was specifically made to build the game and thus a better choice than existing engines, making them obsolete

>valve, unity and AI
valve are snailcats who probably just recently started getting their feet wet with AI assisted coding. It will be too late when they realize how slow they were to adapt. It's not hard to find luddite takes from a certain mister senior dev at valve who recently joined, citing his AI experience from 2024 as valid reference. he might be a cracked dev, but certainly cant compete with 10 fables instructed by a junior or whatever, let alone instruced by himself.
As for unity, yes, AI adoption is there. But they lack the vision and comittment Epic is showing. Unity is implementing AI as addon, keeping the existing architecture. Unreal is rewriting the engine, making AI a core component. That will matter not only for game deving, but also undiscovered AI use during gaymin.
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>>110337376
the service in saas doesnt mean like a valet service or hotel room service
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why are models obsessed with sha256 everything
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>>110337378
i'm sorry but you are an absolute idiot and incredibly factually wrong about nearly everything you've said. it's actually quite astonishing how retarded you are.
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>>110337363
Dunno, which developer with vibe-coding would pay another developer for a service?
Normal cattle might still do it until these agentic tools have a very simple UI and automated all the complex shit behind.
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I would be fine paying for a reasonably priced SaaS
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bro i just want to ocr like 2k images
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Have any of you niggas ever made money from putting a vibecoded game or app onto an online store? I think I have a genuinely great app that has a lot of useful features and I was wondering if I should put it on steam for $3
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>>110337404
>which developer with vibe-coding would pay another developer for a service?
most of them?
snailcats are the ones thinking all it takes for vibenigging a whole project is just "make me program, no mistakes". shit takes a lot of work. i'm not spending a week to save $9/mo
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>>110337427
>I was wondering if I should put it on steam for $3
good luck. steam is so backed up with ai slop its taking weeks to months for valve to review games/software.
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>>110337419
In order for it to work in a small market it has to be expensive.
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>>110337433
You sound more like normal cattle.
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>>110337427
Why would you make even a cent? Your app will also be cloned instantly and there's a real chance one of them might evne pay for advertising.
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>>110337445
and you sound like a fucking retard who places zero value on xhir's time
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>>110337391
too bad you cant provide any arguments to show everyobe ITT
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>Decision for you: I can fix the style findings and the FinalizationRegistry gap now, but GUARD.md still needs a security review before this commits. That review has now been stopped twice in this session, so it may need a fresh session or the Cyber Verification Program (https://support.claude.com/en/articles/14604842-real-time-cyber-safeguards-on-claude). Do you want me to go ahead with the fixes and leave the commit until the review can run?
this hasn't happened before in my project as far as I'm aware
is opus 5.5 being cucked this hard now?
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>>110335735
I'm missing the link between 2 and 3.
Do they mean they didn't rotate everything properly?
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>>110337458
there's nothing to argue. every single thing you said is pure fantasy you made up in your head. also why would I care about what people here think? stop proving to me how retarded you are, it's just sad at this point.
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>>110337427
To profit on Steam you need to build a massive wishlist first nowadays
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>>110337378
shitposting (low quality/trolling) is against the rules, unless it's on /b/
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>>110337462
third time worked
I know fable is touchy about my project, but this has never happened with opus....
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>>110337475
>also why would I care about what people here think?
of course you don't. because that would imply at least a tiny bit of accountability and consideration regarding the argument. which you can't have because your attitude is also your defense mechanism, required to feed your own delusions about perception and causing people to ask you the very question you asked me.
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I thought I was being smart using Sonnet 5.5 on xhigh but actually Opussy 5.5 on Medium uses the same usage and is like 3x faster
Excuse my snailcat moment
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>>110337564
>>110337475
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>>110337564
retard
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>>110337567
nothing to excuse
we only learn by experimenting
I only went from 4.8 to 5.5 a couple of days ago
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clonefags are snailscum in vibecoder clothing.
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close to done but dont want to call it done yet, but it is close...i guess.
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>>110337621
>clonefags
the one thing i dont understand, github shows me 14k cloners in 14 days what does this mean?
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>>110337635
it's just a schizo obsessed with "video games"
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>>110337635
It's a misnomer.
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the 30 year old misnoomer
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I hope the transition is going well. :)
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I told a woman I vibecoded a game and she stood on the table and hooted, and then a vine dropped out of the ceiling and she climbed up it. I wonder where she went.
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i told a woman i vibecoded a replacement for idm and used rea to port some features over. she said nothing, she simply dropped her damp panties to the floor and told me i could have my way with her.
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>>110337635
>14k cloners in 14 days
pretty high. probably game devs trying to farm new ideas
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there is something in me that almost wants to say gemini hydrogen is better than kimi k3.1 pro
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>>110337714
Game devs use ideas???? when? WHEN DID THEY DO THAT, NAME THE TITLE!!!
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>>110337749
doom
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why are they like this
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>>110337779
because you forced it to write rust
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Ot3mMxzRA
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>>110337425
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>>110337713
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>>110337799
literally 0.000001 nanometers away from revealing her nipples.
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>>110337767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEvi_wY53Zo
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>>110337813
your virginity is safe with us
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>>110337816
It's not safe with me. *Giggles sexilly and jiggles tits*
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>>110337798
gta ~ yay the game everyone already played, only with uh

gay

oh boy
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>>110337815
ANDIT'SBEENAWHILE
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FACT IS I'M NOT HOMO ENOUGH TO PLAY GTA 6 AND I HOPE YOU ALL GET AIDS
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>>110337823
and it's a good song
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>>110337835
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>>110337827
I'll obviously play it on PC. Will rush the story but mostly focus on sandbox insanity with mods.
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>>110337851
He smokes in the music video version.



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