How do I cope knowing that the best logo ever is ruined by a retarded ideology?Nothing comes even close to the swastika. It makes me depressed to the point of giving up logos completely.
>>458255grow up
It wont be long before nazis appropriations will just be seen as a sad moment in an otherwise long life of a powerful human symbal.You can help by stomping out the hate you see around you.
>>458255>retarded ideology>nazi appropriations sad moment>stomp out the hateNaziphobia is why the world is in the state it's in now. Stomp out the retarded hate in yourselves first.
>>458255>best logo ever >Nothing comes even closeFor the eighteen millionth time: if the symbology you choose as representative of your entity, ideology, etc. is already ubiquitous and so commonplace that there are literally hundreds of wildly disparate meanings attached to it across many millenia of its existence, it is an objectively poor choice for a logo.Ironically this applies to both the Nazi swastika and the LGBTQ rainbow.The ultimate irony is that the Nazi swastika was a very slight and MEANINGLESS *redesign* of the ancient symbol, the type of thing that causes wannabe art authorities on gd lose their minds when a corporation does it.Hitler was a lackluster artist but even worse at graphic design and could only steal existing ideas, tweak them slightly and then call them "his". Like so many corporate versions of the same process it was all used to sell empty bullshit to morons and everyone else rejected it- so much so that even maintaining and protecting the original meanings/use was seen as less important than repudiating the symbol for that association...which is another hint that the symbol wasn't that important or valuable or strong to begin with and is just a simple geometric doodle that literal cave men invented.If any of this symbology was valuable or important or powerful (and if Nazis and/ or activist queers had any balls) each of these groups would simply appropriate the respective symbols as a display of cunning and power and reap the benefits.Instead, both have become so toxic by association that even retards who think super generic symbols make the best logos are mostly smart enough to avoid them. And in this case, even the rainbow is less toxic and still used by legacy brands, so Nazis lose again.
>>458255fascism has failed every time it has been tried
>>458255Travelling through Malaisa I once found a construction bussines that was actually called "Swastika, inc.", I kid you not.>>458260You need to be 18 or older to post here
>>458260kek basedPunch naziphobes and anti-racists 131
>>458275punch 99% of the human population?sure lad, go ahead and try it
>>458256ironic, you telling him to grow up
>>458290in what sense?
>>458291swastika is one of the oldest human symbols. and nazis were the closest thing to "good guys" in the past 100 years. i will no longer reply to anything.
>>458292lol grow up
Idk this one goes pretty hard too and it's not racist
>>458260I just polished my curb.Come over so we can discuss a bit more, ok?
>>458267This guy doenst visual power or history.Into the trash...
>>458339LOFL, I guess you at least deserve some credit for introducing another meaningless buzzword/phrase to describe some alleged quality that can't be quantified>visual powerYes, SO much "visual power" that the two most common associations drawn when viewing it are "war/genocide" and "peace/good luck"...and people regularly guess the intended meaning wrong when they see one, or anything that even vaguely resembles one...>muh best logo EVAR!https://www.northjersey.com/story/life/community/2016/09/16/symbol-of-luck-mistaken-for-nazi-emblem-in-clifton/93004726/https://www.12news.com/video/news/local/arizona/native-american-symbol-confused-with-swastika/75-2693540https://7news.com.au/news/religion-and-belief/hindu-symbol-defaced-by-delivery-man-after-being-mistaken-for-nazi-swastika-c-529084.amp
>>458339Even just the *word* without the symbol triggers unintended, unwanted and unfavorable connections that have nothing to do with historical context->Swastika Trail, near Puslinch Lake in central southwestern Ontario, was named in the 1920s.>(Randy)Guzar, who has lived on the road for the past 18 years, said he associates the swastika with the bigotry and genocide of the Nazis.>“He does not want to be linked with the symbol, and he says that when he presents his driver’s licence or health card, he is routinely asked if he is a white supremacist or a neo-Nazi,” court said in its decision.This Karen doesn't give a shit about the history of the street he moved to OR the larger history of the symbol OR even the fact that there's dozens of types of symbols that are swastikas and bear little resemblance to the Nazi one...he actually went to court in part because he was butthurt that people made that history known before people voted on a name change->Among other things, Guzar objected to how the cottagers association held its vote, including distributing a pamphlet about the positive history of the swastika before the Nazis used it.It's literally just a variation on a cross symbol, one of the oldest, dirt simplest and most ubiquitous symbols known to man. As a visual mark of differentiation or distinction it is objectively shitty on that count alone, especially when you rotate it to an X shape...a shape not just used by everybody to mean practically anything, it's also so lacking in innate meaning that it is also used to symbolize nothing, erasure...or AN UNKNOWN QUANTITY... which is the exact opposite of what a logo is supposed to convey.Just adding hook/serif- like additions doesn't really fix that, and even before Nazism it was already so popular AS A LOGO that it was useless for determining who actually made the product or what the symbol was supposed to mean.
>Be a rancher>need to mark your cattle>choose an ancient, generic mark>brand cattle>le best logo ever! .exe>get mogged by picrel brand overnight
The original lazy clip art logo>No, we're SwastiCo, you're thinking of SwastiCon or maybe their subsidiary Swastique...
Does what it says on the label!
>>458255Retarded towel heads. Amirite
>>458255yeah i was pretty sad about the star of david too anon but at least the sun wheel is still cool.
>>458337that one is incredibly racist are you retarded?
>>458344https://taylor.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/7c03ef3e-8edf-4b78-9753-e1a55f173683
>>458369Yeah germans really are retarded.
>>458255I think you mean a good ideology. Killing the bankers and the dishonest is a good thing.
Seethed over the best idealogy again while wondering why the whole world is shit and america runs everything award
>>458520the secret is oil (or soil resources as a whole)
>>458255>>458256Hitler did nothing wrong
>>458255Use the direction of the branches as a frame insteadPicrel is the best logo in the history of the universe
>>458255>How do I cope knowing that the best logo ever is ruined by a retarded ideology?>Nothing comes even close to the swastika.*ahem*
>>458587Not only>Better constructed>Better conceptualized>Has actual thought and meaning behind itBut>Represents a technology made to connect people>Which was developed by Nords>And named after a Nordic kingSo it's whiter than Hitler's in every conceivable way.
>>458267>is just a simple geometric doodle that literal cave men invented.it's supposed to be the big dipper's relative position in all four seasons
>>458590not necessarily doubting you, but if it is 4 seasons then why is it 6 feathers/positions??
>>458580Tsmt
Any fyflot fans here?
>>458255There's etnocacerismo it's like nazism except it's Incan nationalism
>>458255Give it another generation or two. The last holocaust survivors are dying off and without people who were actually there to tell us "never forget" the Nazis will be as relevant to us as the Mongols or Ottomans and they symbol will come back.
Grow up retarded bitch
>>458255>retarded ideologykys retard
>>458255Swastika goes hard because of the nazis, not despite them, hope that clears it up
>>458586hell yeah brother
>>458255Just embrace the ideology that is one way to cope. It also solves the issue and pain you're having about the logo.
>>458343>Laplandhuh? isn't that the place Santa Claus lives?
Black sun looks cooler
>>458337>not racist>from a game about "darkners" whose whole purpose in life is to serve "lightners">>458839t. Chris O'Neill
>>458255Hinduism isn't THAT retarded.
>>458255SS goes way harder
>>458255Retarded ideology, huh.
>>458255related videohttps://youtu.be/Cp-KY1juRMg
>>458255Nazism is actually 10 times deeper than whatever slop variant of libtardism you believe in.Nazis didn't jusy randomly have all the coolest visuals.
rate my nation
>>459840doesn't matter, they still lost lmaoremember to follow your leader.jpeg
>retard ideologycope harder lolhitler did nothing wrong
>>458260It's symbol of happiness, and Adolf is a beautiful name.
>>458255Hello, this is Kanye. (Call me Ye).Stop posting all unauthorized uses of my clothing line logo.Goodbye.
>>45825588 nigga
>>458255Retarded?>>458258Human?>>458260Nazi is code for White.>>458337Might be a reference to the star of David.
>>458255>best logo everThis isn't true.
>>458292>nazis were the closest thing to "good guys" in the past 100 years. i will no longer reply to anything.Yeah, you do need to grow up
oh, a wane be nazi on 4chan of all places?must be a bot
>>458255>accidentally go to /gd/ when i meant to go to /g/>might as well check out this board that i never visit>first thing i see when i scroll down a littlenever change 4chan
>>458255vril
fr, thought about that
>>458255>How do I cope knowing that the best logo ever is ruined by a retarded ideology?>Nothing comes even close to the swastika. It makes me depressed to the point of giving up logos completely.you stop being a retarded nigger
>>460166Punjabi hands posted this.
>>458255Learn to love Nazism and the love for the Swastika will follow
>>458268True fascism has never been tried
>>458255The ideology is extremely enlightened and it's a pity you don't see it that way.
>>458292I kneel.
/pol/ can raid this board as much as they want, it doesn't change the fact that everybody hates nazis IRL, and the world is becoming more progressive day by day
>>460335>>>/lgbt/
>>460335>everyonenot my boomer dad tho. and no, i dont hang out with leftoid junkies like you do
>>460335> Nazism is literally coming back> Far-right ideologies are now 100% mainstream and not frowned upon> More and more countries are electing far-right presidents> "the world is becoming more progressive day by day"lollmao even
>>458255Check what I made yesterday
I make them all the time, there’s always news ways
This was hitters sketch
>>460385>>460384I like this implication of picrel
Which one is it?
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>>458267>Hitler was a lackluster artist Not true. He was good, not great or anything but nowhere near as bad as retards always claim. And to prove you’re a retard:>but even worse at graphic design and could only steal existing ideas,He didn’t “design” or pick the swastika for the party, retard.
>>458255>ruined by a retarded ideologyRight? Cow shit eating Hindus really fucked it up
>>458255this one slaps
>>458255Just flip it and you’re good.Western onions golems need to look up and realize it’s just the Big Dipper circulating Polaris.Or maybe there’s a group of people that makes a hobby out of deracinating and deleting their neighb- I mean the competition.Nah.
>>458881Toby Based?
>>458267>For the eighteen millionth time: if the symbology you choose as representative of your entity, ideology, etc. is already ubiquitous and so commonplace that there are literally hundreds of wildly disparate meanings attached to it across many millenia of its existence, it is an objectively poor choice for a logo.Shit take, literally pulled that out of your ass
>>458270>I kid you notWOW LE EPIC FUNNYYou need to go back, and hang yourself by the neck, faggotHeil Hitler
>>458293>>459983>t. kike worshippersboth of you deserve to get raped and murdered by a pack of feral shitskins
>>458255This is dumb. This is millenias old, predates Buddha, and all of Hinduism.Literally found in archaeological sites.There are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in India and SE Asia who use and revere this symbol who cannot spell Hitler or know what the Nazi party was.
>>460674I think this is the exact point of OPs post...
>>460676OP has no "point" other than trying to be a provocative /pol/tard troll.As has already been stated and backed up by citations repeatedly, the things described by the anon you are responding to are precisely why its a shitty logo that even without any Nazi connection could never even be register-able as a trademarked symbol or trade dress...it is TOO COMMON AND GENERIC->The Seabrook test requires that packaging trade dress meet four elements to be inherently distinctive: (1) the design or shape should not be a common, basic shape or design; (2) it should be unique or unusual in a particular field; (3) it should not be a mere refinement of a commonly-adopted and well-known form of ornamentation for a particular class of goods or services which consumers would view as mere ornamentation; (4) it should create a separate commercial impression apart from any accompanying words>The Abercrombie test for trademark strength serves a crucial purpose in trademark law. It helps courts and the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) determine the inherent strength of a mark and the level of protection it deserves. The underlying principle is that the more distinctive a mark is, the more likely it is to serve as a unique identifier of the source of goods or services.
>>460678I don't get it.the swastika *is* inherently distinctive in the case of the nazis even when it is a "basic" shape(?).just like the google G.>basic. AND distinctive. or the mastercard logo. mitsubishi. target. converse...
Adidas logo is better
>>460741Same ideology tho.Based on what Hitler always wanted. All Day I Dream About Shoah
>>458255It's not Nike and it's basically an age old logo inverted, so doesn't really count, does it?
>>460679>I don't get itAgreed>the swastika *is* inherently distinctive in the case of the nazis even when it is a "basic" shape(?).If any claimed distinction is dependent on the user's association with a mark that existed prior to that user's adoption, then by definition it is not intently distinctive.What you are describing is "acquired distinctiveness" AKA "secondary meaning" and is far more limited in scope..."Apple" used to sell that brand's electronics is a protected mark but people can still use the term to sell other things that won't be confused for the computer company's products.Totally different from a made up name like Xerox or ExxonMobil that never meant anything else.>Non-distinctive marks, which include descriptors, personal names, geographic terms, laudatory phrases, slogans, trade dress, and even certain colors, face a tougher path to secondary meaning. These marks inherently lack the immediate capability to indicate the source of a product or service.
>>458255I don't care about the swastika but I like the original flat sanskrit symbol or whatever
Ruined by Gods truth? The swastika is a representation of the eternal nature of God and of the endless struggle of life. How is this bad, and how is National Socialism bad? I fly the swastika daily without giving a fuck, God Himself is on my side so what would I have to fear? An attack from some bum? That's why I'm always armed.....stop being a pussy and be faithful to God
>>460755The original isn't from the indians or persions. The oldest swastikas in the historical record are of caucasian origin, and 65+% of all swastikas ever found in the archaelogical record are of European origin.Everywhere the symbol appears, there is caucasian admixture in the populations, if not outright being white. This was the cross before the cross, the symbol of our race before Christ.
>>460746It has inherent distinctiveness. Do any of the bums in this thread even know where the symbol comes from? If you did, you would understand its connections to my people.The symbol is derived from the constellation Ursa Minor. When traced with a line, it forms one wing of the swastika. When a 24hour day is sliced into four quadrants, it becomes the swastika we all know and should love.This is why it has direct associations with my volk, because the intellectual requirements to even look up at the sky and consider constellations in an abstract way requires brainpower/creativity the negroid people/asiatics do not have. And when you slice it into even more quadrants? You get the black sun, which you probably could tell has the same wings as the swastika.... it's honestly sad to think there are guys on here debating the mystical origins of my symbol which is already widely known by my people; kinda sad...As for the meaning of the symbol, it's fairly simple. We can look to the past for more info, particularly with the Aryan "Tyrswagn" / "Torskall". An eternally spinning wheel, centered upon the vertical axis(lol) of our sky
>>460769(not saying that particular symbol I whipped up was the original, I was referring to the plain old swastika
>>460742The swastika is a reference to the holohoax? So are you saying God wants jews eradicated? Because the symbol originates from a constellation called Ursa Minor.......
>>460770>It has inherent distinctivenessLOFL, if it did absolutely none of your endless blather about meaning and origin would matter, exactly the same way picrel's origins and meaning have ZERO bearing on its quality as a brand ID symbol.
>>460769>before christthe cross is the symbol of universalism.
>>460351>far-right>literally all zionists who let in more browns
>>458256-zionist
There are cooler logos
Fractal swastika frieze kicks ass
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>>459178Swallow Sidecar Co. You'll know them as Jaguar.
>>458255Nazism is a stupid ideology that was unable to develop its own symbols; it resorted to appropriating the ancient symbolism of other cultures.Image of pre-Hispanic Mexico, corresponding to page 73 of the Vaticanus Codex 3773
>best logo ever>Nothing comes even close14 year old edgelords are not allowed on this platform
>>458255Same
>>458267NBC peacock was genius but you are wrong about Hitler.
>>458586It's certainly In the top 5
>>458255i think its peak design myself
>>458839Tursaansydän, more often in this form
whats ppls thoughts on Mosley in this thread i rarely see art of the guy anywhere
>>458256>>458258Europe conflict>national socialist = national socials = socials>communists = communes / communitiesIt's like you need a group with a special interest... oh right those are special interest groups. Bernie Bros went against those, but it's partly because they decided to focus on corporate-ism rather than social-ism... groups need commons, don't they?>It's just familyNation of states. State as a... union of families?
>>458268>>460251How about Europe as a nation of states
>>458470>>459513>>459840>>460768>eyebrows lmaosee: >>460166
>>458342>>459178>>461873Simple black design>>460166>just add a black shirt/hoodieWait, do blonds look better in black and gingers look better in white?
>>461742It's a variation on the sun symbol.The Aztecs originated in the southwest of the United States. The Hopi call him Tawa. In Algonquian mythology, the thunderbird controls the upper world while the underworld is governed by the underwater panther or Great Horned Serpent. They are messengers of the Great Sun himself.[
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>>462019what does the white to black gradient represent?