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>>30712081
>conservatives wish to conserve their way of life.
You're a god damn genius! That’s the most outstanding answer I’ve ever heard! You must have a god damn IQ of 160. You are God damn gifted.
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>>30712163
You're an idiot.
Christianity is being pushed as a solution to the "Weimar West,"
Yet it is Christian philosophy specifically, that has gotten us into this shitfucked situation.
Anyone pushing Christianity as a solution, is merely promising more of this Weimar crap down the line.
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>>30712081
They're not, they're just struggling to come to terms with the fact that atheists can hold the same values as them except they don't need the threat of hell to stop them from being murderers, rapists and hedonists.

Christians and religious people in general like to pretend to be someone who they're not, because they have a higher power that will enact horrors onto them if they slip up too much. But then when religiousness stops being as common and these values are adopted at face value, now they feel inadequate. The inadequacy comes from the suppression of their own desires due to their god meanwhile atheists either don't have it are suppressing their desires for nothing, out of principle or some other notion.


Ultimately Christians are going to become more extreme. To tackle with this feeling of inadequacy they'll divert into the religious aspects more so that they can now call the atheists who on all other accounts and matters the same as them, evil.
This is happening in the USA currently with how their current administration is using religion and how influential atheists who agree with the right are "finding" religion to march in parity with the Christian right.

Mark my words anons, by the late 2030s the Christian right will be calling the current right evil atheists and using religion as their tool. Not just in the USA but in Europe too. Here in the UK Restore Britain is already on that road, as well as the road to winning the next election.
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>>30712223
>[insert gnostic cope-post here]
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>>30712081
wrong board incel
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cucker cucksonbros.... our response????
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>>30712081
Repent for posting this drivel that could potentially cost even one person their salvation

Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall cause one of these little ones who believe in Me to fall, it were better for him that a millstone were hung about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
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>>30712223
That beautiful little prey animal sustained that ape until its next meal. Its literally the circle of life you fucking faggot, grow up. If it makes you feel any better, its my belief "all animals go to heaven", as in I don't believe the life that was breathed into all beings can be extinguished, and that the agency we uniquely possess as humans is what spares other beings from the possibility of Judgement. Every animal you have interacted with in this life you will get to see again in Paradise if you truly can appreciate the sacrifice Christ made for you and I.
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>>30712239
>They're not, they're just struggling to come to terms with the fact that atheists can hold the same values as them except they don't need the threat of hell to stop them from being murderers, rapists and hedonists.

Atheists support, promote, and participate in the abortion and euthanasia of innocent humans. So, you're dead wrong about the murder part.
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>>30712857
>no rebuttal
Mby groypers are losing because of cognitive dissonance?
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>>30712081
the right is christian by definition since pure right wing is "christ is king".
everything other than "love thy neighbor as thyself" is leftist garbage.

now you know.
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>>30712208
read the book again, anon.
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>>30712239
>they're just struggling to come to terms with the fact that atheists can hold the same values as them except they don't need the threat of hell to stop them from being murderers, rapists and hedonists
incorrect.
see, you're misunderstanding the difference.
an atheist doesn't believe in spirit, only the physical.
that's called "being fucking retarded" since spirit is proven.
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>>30712769
incorrect, anon.
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>>30712857
Matthew 18:6
King James Version
6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
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>>30712985
>the right is christian by definition
Universalism isn't right wing.
You present a false binary
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>>30712989
Praxis > Theory
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>>30712990

Define proof fucktard
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>>30713000
>Universalism isn't right wing
incorrect.
you've clearly been bamboozled by "professors", anon.
>>30713003
unholy men pretending to be Holy is not praxis is this regard, anon.
>>30713008
>Define proof
energy cannot be destroyed.

y'all get it yet?
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>>30712081
you act like this is news and not completely obvious to the rest of the world
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>>30713019
>unholy men pretending to be Holy is not praxis is this regard, anon
Translation:
>I fundamentally disagree with the official positions of The Church. This is why you should also be Christian
cognitive dissonance maxxing I see
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>>30713019
No.
Universalism is not right wing.
You can't be ethnocentric AND universalist.
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>>30712897
>you fucking faggot
>if you truly can appreciate the sacrifice Christ made for you and I

I love it when these types of texts come together from a "religious" person.

BTW. Billions of animals and people have suffered and are suffering far more than jesus did.
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>>30712081
/wsg/
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>>30713098
Dead board
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>>30713105
Because newfag lost r/edditers don't properly use it. Your problem. Go back son.
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>>30712239
Thinking you're a good and moral person doesn't mean shit. And setting the baseline of not raping and murdering is retarded.

Everyone, not one single solitary conscious human has a dark side. Everyone has selfish, self centered desires, passions, immoral tendencies, thoughts and acts on them. It doesn't matter if you are an atheist, Christian, or Mr. Rogers. Everyone is a sinner. No exceptions.
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its almost like hardly anybody ever followed the bible to the T.
most "Religious" people arnt religious, they are just spiritual hedonist why use religion to get ego boosts. all ways has been.
the more you actually try to force shit people dont actually want to do, they more they start to push back from religion.

people hated gays so every one was down with church hating on gays, but ass soon as the church starts to fuck with shit people like, they stop giving them soo much support.

doesnt help organized religion is batshit insane
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we have always been at war with the left
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>>30713182
nobody brought up the left, and it isnt just the left thats hates on religion
the right have a love hate relationship, its how they get most of their support, but at the same time religion is fucking retarded and they know it.
you cant be the number #1 country when you try and force people to be retarded
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Yes goy, don't go to church! It's uh, based to reject Christ! Actually, it's crucial that you try to tear down the church and push some kind of non-specific atheism or paganism or something to uh, own the Jews! Yes! The Jews really hate it when you do that! Make sure to fight one another constantly about it!
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>>30713204
we have always been at war with the right
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>>30713211
we have always been at war with the jews
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>>30713211
or you know remove church from state, and just have church be a option of a life style instead of having church force its way into politics and peoples lives who dont want it.

have fun with religious nut jobs running the country on behalf of gop faggots selling out the country to china

trump just handed china all the cards, and doomed the country
but at least you wreaked the trannys right

retard wasted billions bombing iran and all he did was raise gas prices
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>>30713229
we have always been at war with the middle east
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>>30713063
>he correlates the business with the book
sad and really unintelligent, anon.
>>30713067
ethnocentrism is a leftist ideology, anon.
ya dun been bamboozled by "professors".
next you're gonna tell me you nazi germany was right wing when it was only leftists replacing other leftists.

christianity teaches that all are one is christ jesus.
that's universalism.
it also teaches that christ is king.
that's a monarchy.
monarchs can't be leftists because leftism requires a party.

now you know.
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>>30713229
>just have church be a option of a life style instead of having church force its way into politics and peoples lives who dont want it.
that's how we got fucked into this mess in the first place.
>trump just handed china all the cards, and doomed the country
america owns the entire chinese economy, anon.
you're not living in reality if you think we've ever been competitors once the modern world started.
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>>30713273
We have always been at war with the educators.
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>>30712081
>Paul is the problem with Christianity
>The church was founded by rich kikes who claimed to have a vision
fixed that for you
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>>30713313
We have always been at war with the jews.
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>>30712940
No I'm not, do you really think everyone against abortion and euthanasia are religious? That no one against it is an atheist?

>>30712990
You're who I'm talking about in the second half. You'll bullshit whatever to make the difference between right wing atheists and right wing Christians their belief in religion.
Dumbass proved me right without even knowing it.

>>30713173
>baseline of not raping and murdering is retarded
It is, and yet that's the main point Christians make when they talk about faithlessness. Either you're from the third world larping or you're so socially isolated you've managed to miss that context in your life.

>Everyone .. has a dark side
Agreed. And yet, an atheist doesn't allow that to come to fruition despite not believing in a god or eternal punishment for doing so. That's the only difference between a right wing atheist and a right wing Christian. They both have the threat of real punishment by authorities or vigilantism but the key difference is a Christian is kept in check by something more.
All of you proved me right by trying to make this an argument about religion instead of addressing how the Christian right wing amongst the western world is splintering off and purity testing the right wing on the basis of faith in god. How atheistic right wingers who are influential are "becoming" Christian and embracing it.

Vance for example is already feeling it with his indian wife and children. He can't run for president because the Christian right will rally against him.
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>>30713304
Most based thing I've heard today.
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>>30713091
We're on 4choon of all places discussing theology, maybe you should excuse the abrasiveness of being called a faggot. On 4choon.
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>>30713325
>spirit is proven
>spirit is proven
>spirit is proven
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>>30712081
I don't think people realize just how much damage Boomers have done as a generation to those that will come after them. They honestly are the worst.
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>>30713341
Spoiled assed ladder pulling naive brats
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>>30713325
>right wing atheists
you can't be right wing and be an atheist since atheists refuse reality and only a leftist would refuse reality to push their agenda.
simple as.
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>>30713362
We have always been at war with the atheists.
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>>30713336
>you should excuse the abrasiveness of being called a faggot. On 4choon.
I don't care if they call me faggot, you faggot, but when a religious person does all this, it's funny.
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>>30713386
I'm pretty sure you just dismissed everything said based on the fact you were called a faggot. Like most brown souled individuals.

Also what a sad video, the upside is how fleeting this life truly is. Momma and baby are together again in Paradise<3
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>>30713404
>brown souled
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>>30712857
TKD
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>>30713417
Funny video but Hell is real pal, sorry to break it to you. I've been there myself, and I'll tell ya its dark, and reeeeeeaaal hot baby
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>>30713404
> If it makes you feel any better, its my belief "all animals go to heaven",
> its my belief

I dismissed because that's just a coping mechanism. Which church believes the same?
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>>30712897
Rabbi Jeshua sacrificed his weekend though???
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>>30713423
Not the magic lava ahhhh
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Christianity isn't about race or ethnicity. It's about the love of God. It's not like Judaism were you have to be borne to be a damn Jew mom to be Jewish.

>>30712081
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>>30713423
>Hell is real pal
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>>30713444
Trips proves that we have always been at war with the other mythologies.
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>>30713444
Blessed trips saves the day
>>30713439
Its not so much about the infinite searing flames as it is the total and complete separation of yourself from God, light and the truth. Everyone envisions what we think as "Heaven" as just endless fields of cloud remote in space. The reality is much more beautiful. Envision an infinite expanse of untouched Earth, with all the animals to have ever lived and died living in harmony. Now envision you're there with your loved ones who have been saved by the simple admission that Christ's sacrifice was enough to atone for what you've done.
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>>30713469
Are the ones we love that don't subscribe to that specific flavor of Abraham there with us?
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>>30712081
Sandbagging?
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>>30713489
He's implying, Sandbagging is like..holding it back, weighing it down, preventing its effectiveness. Dead weight. Modern "Right" wouldn't exist without it though. That was a keystone of the Southern Strategy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
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>>30713477
It really depends. Does the three-year old son of a Muslim, who has a fatal accident, go to Hell? Surely not. God saves the young children, those who have not the developmental skills just yet to comprehend Him. At that point, they must come to know Christ.

He said it himself, he is the Light and the Truth and the Way. Save those you love, share the gospel of Christ's sacrifice. He did all this because He loves you, I'm speaking to you now because I myself love you.
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>>30713507
So if you or I had a sister or brother or friend or mother that was not specifically praising Yahweh then they'd be in hell and we'd be in heaven. Would we be aware that our loved one was burning in hell while we are blissful in heaven?
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>>30713507
And also what is the specific age limit that Yahweh uses to save young Muslim or Asian or uncontacted islander children to spare them hell? 5 years old? 7 years old? 9 years old?
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>>30713424
Galatians 5:6
King James Version
6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
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>>30713527
What about retarded and autistic kids that he created with intelligent design that aren't cognisent enough to even conceive on deism as a concept? Do they go to heaven without repenting and accepting? Are they still retarded when they get there?
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>>30713507
Is Yahweh powerful enough to create a world without suffering?
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>>30713517
See you don't mean to do it but you're turning it back to worshipping YHWH who would classically be known as the Father. Though he demands reverence, its his through the power of the holy spirit you should be praising the SON who freed humanity from the bondage of sin and the certain death it brought. The Father created everything to be, the Son Jesus Christ redeemed it and ensured everything would be made pure again.
I can't say with certainty we will know the fate of our loved ones. Just the fact you wouldn't be able to find them again in Paradise should tell you enough about their fate. You would pity them, but would understand they made the choice of not coming to know the Truth
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>>30713321
Ever since prehistoric times.
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>>30713552
Suffering exists because we were gifted free will. Tremendous good exists because we were gifted free will. For there to be a meaningful relationship with our Lord and savior, we must come to HIM out of our own free will.
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>>30713573
How could one be in paradise if they're aware a loved one is in an exruciaiting infernal hell for infinity? Yahweh would have to dose you, drug you, force you to forget.
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>>30713593
Is Yahweh powerful enough to create a world with free will but without suffering?
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>>30713609
it already exists.
you just have to use your free will to fix your free will from choosing suffering.
no, gotchas, anon.
we already defeated that nonsense a long time ago.
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>>30713609
>Is God powerful enough to do the nonsensical
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>>30713593
So free will is responsible for cancer, tuberculosis, earaches?
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>>30713623
If he created everything as an all powerful being..he created sense..nothing would be nonsensical lol. Is he powerful enough?
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>>30713469
Apologetics always bring this shit up but the rabbi jeshua specifically spoke about fire or hades (one the concepts he stole from greeks)
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>>30713616
I have to use my free will to fix my free will to not get cancer as ordained by yahweh who was powerful enough to not create cancer in the first place.
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>>30713533
I'm talking here about things you have to believe that happened as chriggers. Who cares about rabbi Saul's nonsense?
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>>30713624
>cancer
Not the cancer directly, but the environmental risks you face today are a direct result of another's free will yesterday

Sorry, I only feel like answering the cancer one right now. I'm sure there's other free will centered explanations for disease and something as benign as an ear ache.
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>>30713640
I don't think you fully understand what cancer is
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>>30713655
Yeah there's some unanswered up there pastor. Saud you loved me. Is Yahweh not powerful enough to give you the stamina and wit to answer them? Or is your free will and faith not strong enough? Or since he's all powerful and created you...did he not create you with enough free will and faith? Is he powerful enough to create you with enough will and faith or did he choose not to?
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>>30713661
I'm practically an Onocologist padre but please do go on. How everyone creates tumors with their free will. Excepting smokers of course.
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>>30713646
>things you have to believe that happened
you're not really making sense, anon.
>>30713634
>he created sense..nothing would be nonsensical
He created nonsense out of mercy so you would sound smart to yourself.
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>>30713689
genetics are material, not spiritual, anon.
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>>30713749
Was Yahweh powerful enough to create a world with free will sans cancer? Specifically..a world that would never have cancer in it. It wouldn't be possible, Is Yahweh powerful enough to do that?
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>>30713672
>answer me perfectly, imperfect man
Your expectations will be your own downfall
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>>30713744
>He created nonsense out of mercy so you would sound smart to yourself.

There's something super naively cute about this one that I like. Unironic thanks it's going on the fridge.
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>>30713777
Nice trips but you're the one that came in professing on the wrong only to immediately dodge very simple rudimentary uncomfortable logical questions. Was Yahweh powerful enough to create a world with free will but without cancer? It's a yes or no father. Because if not Yahweh CHOSE cancer. Surely you can get that far I hope.
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>>30712208
>>30712081
why the anglos and anglo-americans never embraced their much cooler Celtic religion instead of middle eastern jew worship is baffling.
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>>30712940

>spirit is proven

hahahahahahahaahahahahaha

wait

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>30713816
you really think there could be more than one God?
how caveman.
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>>30713825
god is a man made concept that did more harm than good
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>>30713019

> Energy cannot be destroyed

What do the laws of thermodynamics have to do with proving the existence of spirit/souls?

Neither energy nor matter is destroyed when a person dies, it just changes through decomposition and the dissipation of heat. But the presence of spirit is not proven or measured, so what "energy" are you referring to as "proof" of spirit's existence?
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>>30713424
And Odin drinks hanged men cum...man,religion is kinda wack
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Was Yahweh powerful enough to create a world with free will but without homosexuals, if not Yahweh created homosexuals. Was Yahweh powerful enough to create a world with free will but without cancer? So Yahweh created Cancer. Yahweh created murder, Yahweh created aging, Yahweh created Alzheimer's disease, ALS, Cerebal Palsy, Muscular Dystrophy, Multiple Sclerosis, AIDS, Huntington's, Lupis, pedophiles, Diverticulitus, Dermatomyositis and Furries and thousands more horrors. You can't have an entirely omnipotant invisible sky wizard daddy and still give him a pass on certain unfortunate parts of his/her "creation". That's not how omnipotence works. Meditate on it. Rise above that Dunning/Kruger plateau. Wouldn't have even deigned to condascend..but I'm daydrunk.
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>>30713842
man is a God made concept, anon.
>>30713847
>What do the laws of thermodynamics have to do with proving the existence of spirit/souls?
spirit is energy.
now you know.
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>>30713902
You know, you keep focusing on the horrors of free will. How about focus on the wonderous fruits it has yielded for a while instead huh??
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>>30713916

Good job dodging the meat of the question.

Claiming spirit is energy does not prove the existence of spirit. To be energy, it has to exist first. What proof is there that spirit exists?
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>>30712239
>"Athiests have the same morals as everyone else... Minus sky dad" so... Athiests have Christian values... Just minus sky dad. Oy vey
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>>30712239
Didn't read but
>Mark my words anons, by the late 2030s the Christian right will be calling the current right evil atheists and using religion as their tool
Mega based. Cry about it. The degeneracy will be put to an end.
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>>30714059
>we will end you!!!
with or without the pope this time? because you christcucks are inconsistent
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>>30713946
just drop the "mysterious ways" super finishing move on him bro then you can keep not answering shit
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>>30713229
O no we can't watch porn or fuck the same sex. What a boring world Christianity offers!
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>>30713946
How about you actually surmount your considerable fear and risk the insecurity that was programmed into you from birth and actually answer a logical question directly without avoidance?
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>>30713229
>Wasted a few billion
>40 trillion in red

Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8.8
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>>30714111
--just kidding noone gives a fuck and you're still on the wrong board cleetus.
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>>30714075
Yeah atheism is totally consistent.... In fact! It's the standard!.
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>>30714129
who said anything about atheism?
other religions exists.
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>>30712081
Moses and David are fictional creations of later hellenized jews in Alexandria.
So I guess Jesus came from a made up line of fictional kings who never existed in the Archeological record.
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>>30712940
An unborn baby may not have a soul yet. You religious control freaks declare that it does have a soul while in the womb, and unfortunately outnumber atheists. That's why abortion became illegal in many parts of America. Not because it's 'murder'.
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>>30712081
There is no such thing as legitimate right wing thought, in any capacity
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>>30713177
Yes. I agree. But please spell check before you post. We make a positive difference in this world when we spell correctly.
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>>30713842
No, religion is*
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>>30713444
>Christianity isn't about race or ethnicity.
We know.
That's precisely the problem.
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>>30713211
The entire basis of Ben Shapiro's work is to get goyim to go to church.
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>>30713273
>ethnocentrism is a leftist ideology, anon.
KEKK most retarded post itt
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>>30713273
>he correlates the business with the book
>real communism has never been tried! If only people actually followed the book!
You are getting filtered by Theory v Praxis.
Filtered HARD.
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>>30712081
No, religion is sandbagging everyone.
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>>30713273
>christianity teaches that all are one
Precisely the philosophical and moral basis for mass immigration and open borders.
Christianity is not right wing.
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>>30713423
Oh cool he's a schizo
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>>30713825
>god
Why use an anglo pagan word?
Why not use the actual word from the bible?
(Is it because Elohim sounds too jewish?)
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>>30713880
>well documented Jewish lie
Huh. Christians really are spiritual jews.
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>>30712081
The Right needs to go full on crusader
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>>30714639
>crusader
The right needs to die in the middle east?
Fuck off.
We aren't your army, golem.
You aren't right wing.
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>>30713289
>trump owns the Chinese economy
that hasnt been true since the 90s
you're a retarded boomer if youthink china is a assbackwards sweat shop. its a futuristic sweat shop now
that for some fucking reason the us decided to be come reliant on.
we need china but china doesnt need us, china is morel likely to with stand a war with the us.
china has the rest of the world to sell temu items to and is self reliant
the us relies on so much shit

you cant even bomb a shit hole 3rd world country let alone chine thats a mix of having a ton of disposable troops and actual technology
and china now can out play use economically
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>>30713273
the terms right and left are contextual
the us's left and right is completely different from the rest of the world let alone back in nazi germany.
even in american history the terms basically have switch and hardly mean anything.
left and right in america is pretty much just a foot ball game.

today the left wouldnt be associated with ethnocentrism. the right only cares about that shit because its been using it to scare their party.

using shit to scare the right into shit is pretty much the reason religion is losing power, the right is sick of all these made up holywars
they also know all these years religion was just used to abuse the right and christians.
they know how much jews and shit have been using them.
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This is a nsfw gif board on a site that has both a political board and a work safe gif board and some incel has posted 10(?) work safe political gifs and over one hundred cries for attention in text. Go back or finally rope yourself.
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blessed
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>>30712085
Meanwhile irl he imposed massive reforms in 800 in a reversal of his father's law and his own prior leniency. And he kept heroic myths and lore from the pagan times, it was his favorite book in fact and his asshole son burned his collection. Only fragments survived but it's very similar to what the Icelandic skalds preserved.

I get the shame of christcucks for being passive-aggressive doormats to nons and kikes. But this is one of the few leaders in history worth learning everything you can about and not holding in contempt.
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>>30713214
>we have always been at war with the right
>we have always been at war with the jews
Wow! So profound and shit! Are you like a guru? You must be drowning in pussy! Are you hiring?
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>>30713377
Jesus Christ, the fake Nazi put his armband on the wrong arm.
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No christian has ever answered a question straight in his life
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>>30712081
>sandbagging
you don't understand what that expression means lol
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>>30712081
more like "the right stands for nothing so the one in-group that even slightly pretends to stand for something is holding them back from being even more retarded"
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>>30712208
>Yet it is Christian philosophy specifically, that has gotten us into this shitfucked situation.

Modern* christianity is what got us in this situation. The christianity of the past would be steamrolling all of the west's enemies right now. The jews successfully turned christianity into only the "turn the other cheek" form and has disarmed the "smite evil" form, making christians basically impotent hippies. Don't be confused, radical christendom is balls to the wall terrifying.
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>>30715459
>The christianity of the past
You mean back when itwas functionally illegal for 99% of Christians to read the Bible, so they just wrnt on vibes?

Funny how it falls to pieces once you actually read the bible...
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I think I honestly lost brain cells reading any of these posts. Thanks anons, fuckin' A 10/10.
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>>30712940
It's unfathomable how people like you are capable of waking up in the morning and getting dressed on your own, before going out into the world and actually thinking your opinion holds any weight. If abortion happens, it's because god allows it and god allows it because it's part of his plan. Even your lowest IQ Christian understands that. But somehow, you managed to be an even dumber cunt.
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>>30715472
The printing press had mass printed hundreds of thousands of copies of the bible by the 1500's. The clergy weren't the only ones reading the books for a good stint of christianity being spread around the world in a militaristic capacity.
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>>30715499
>1500s
You mean when Christianity splintered into a thousand different denominations because once they could actually read it, Christians had to do INTENSE mental gymnastics to square all the circles?
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>>30715497
Ah, a le redditor trying to bullshit their way through their weak understanding of christianity. It's almost like you're too stupid to understand the concepts of free will and choosing good over evil. It's almost like hell exists for a reason. It's the place where faggots like you will end up.
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>>30713469
Christians already tried this angle and it failed. Originally Christians said that when you die, it's oblivion. Pagans were like, "That sounds fine. Living forever sounds awful anyway." So then Christians invented Hell, a fate worse than death, in order to coerce conversion.
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>>30715508
The original split in Christianity happened in around 1054, when basically no one could read, try again jackass.
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>>30715522
>1054
Lmao what?
Are seriously onbfuscating history because you're losing that hard?
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>>30715522
He's obviously referring to Martin Luther and Protestantism, retard. The printing press played a large role in propagandizing the movement.
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>>30715522
>The 1500s Christian schism, known as the Protestant Reformation, permanently broke western Christendom into Catholic and Protestant branches. Triggered by widespread corruption, the movement began in 1517 and produced several new denominations based on scripture rather than papal authority.
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>>30714111
I already told you free will is what gives meaning to our relationship with God. But you aren't interested in a good-faith argument, evidenced by >>30714121
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>>30714381
You mean to die for Israel
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>>30712081
there isnt a right wing theres only a bunch of bickering camps that dont like liberalism fighting over shit that doesnt matter
every year the football gets moved closer and closer to complete eternal anal rape and all you internet people can do is point fingers
if youre not gathering with like minded people in reall life right now youre fucked
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>>30715691
Idk man have you ever heard of Nick Fuentes? You'd probably like him
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>>30712081

1) Right means anti-labour or anti-socialist in normal countries. But "right" means Conservative in the USA fake "democracy", where the "left' means being EQUALLY capitalist but with a flavour of Wokeness.

2) religion is 100% man made. It started with cavemen. People were illiterate and a few "experts" carved stone when the first "great flood" and "hero with an ark" story was invented in the Sumerian (nowadays Iraq and Kuwait) religion, some 1000 years before exiled israelites adapted it into their own Talmude, but now calling the guy "Noah" instead of Utnapishtim (from the Epic of Gilgamesh that they heard in Babylon, that in their turn had heard it from the Sumerians).

3) geography lesson: all this religious bullshit comes from West Asia, aka Mesopotamia, aka "middle east".
It was imagined by cavemen that looked like nowadays old poor illiterate toothless goat herders on sandals in Yemen and Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran and Palestine and Syria.

4) then came the Ancient Greece and their philosophy, the Roman Empire and heir new technologies, a more "globalised" trade in the land called Palestine, then a state in the Roman empire.
In Nazareth, a brown skin dark hair Palestinian of Jewish ethnicity, an Asian/Middle Eastern guy called Jesus decided that he didn't like the old tradition and family values of the Jewish Talmude (a nationalist racist warmonger document comparable to the nazi Mein Kampf) aka Old Testament.
Also, working as a carpenter or goat herder was hard... so he decided to join the useful and the pleasurable and become a "profet" (a religious "influencer") trying to collect followers (likes and follows and sponsors).

5) he got 12 main followers called "apostles". But they didn't convince practically anyone else, despite spending their days at synagogues. The Palestinian Jews didn't like the new values from abroad, and didn't want strangers into their religion. The gentiles (foreigners) should stay outside of the wall...

(continues)
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>>30712081
>>30715729
(continuation)

6) when, in Palestine, the Romans and the Jews/israelites got tired of Jesus, they sentenced the man to death. As a mortal, he died. That's a fact.
The apostles weren't as charismatic and didn't have such a good sales speech, so their efforts at the synagogue kept failing to gather more clients (aka followers of their cult INSIDE Judaism).

7) needing a new marketing strategy to compete with so many religions and "gods", one day (years later) the most dishonest apostles started "seeing" Jesus' ghost.
The man was dead, but perhaps he could be back again. Nothing new, since resurrection was a traditional issue in the religions of that era.
Still, they only convinced a minority of the Jews in the synagogues about their "revived" "profet".

8) they doubled down and now they started Trumping (aka telling lies after lies) about more "witnesses" of the "ghost", and about the tomb being open in magical explosion, and Jesus being Chirst after all: god on Earth, in a human body, both son and father. Bot a single word about the "trinity" yet. That would come 300 years later..

9) but this claim of an only "god" being "witnessed" was a crime. The Romans called it "atheism": the denial of the existence of all the other "gods". So the EUROPEAN POLYTHEISTIC Romans started oppressing and killing the ASIAN JEW MINORITY that believed also in Jesus "christ" and not only in the Yahweh "god".

10) but geopolitics got in the way. The majority of mainstream Palestinian Jews revolted against the imperial invaders, and the cunning but TRAITOR apostles decided to turn the narrative upside down: blaming bad stuff on mainstream Jews, siding with Romans, and IMPOSING BY FORCE the theology of the Christian cult. It was no longer just on Jewish faction. It was now a NEW religion, based on new values and interests.

11) some apostles and some anonymous followers started writing letters and texts. A couple centuries later it's compiled as the New Testament.
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>>30715770
Source: Meth
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>>30715729
>>30715770

So, given where and how and when the so called Christianity religion was invented by mortal and ignorant and violent and bad intended men, basing their new religion on random values of the time and region, writing lies and absurdities, and fooling illiterate simpleton or imposing their theology by force, as has happened with ALL religions, I would say that this thread is the cumulus of absurdity.

An absurd that is only topped by the Anglo-USAmerican Evangelical Fundamentalists that in the last century and a half (NOT coincidentally the same age of Zionism) have advocated for the stupidity of "Christian Zionism" aka churches in western countries that receive money from wealthy Jews/israelites/zionists, to brainwashed Christians into believing that:

1) the Bible (both the New Testament and the Old Testament aka Jewish Talmude) are "one" document;

2) that such a document has the characteristic of "inerrancy" aka everything in there is "right" and "true", and sometimes when things don't make sense, that just means that we are just not making the best interpretations... or not capable of understanding "god".

3) that the written word is from "divine" inspiration and all archeological/biology/etc proving otherwise is an "abomination".

4) that we in the 21st century must live by the values of cavemen or illiterate asian goat herders from 3 thousand years ago.

5) that the Christians are a synonym of "tradition" or "family values" or "European values", when in fact the religion is born of revolt against tradition, and born of Asian/Palestinian minds that refused the theology of their Jew/Israelite parents and grandfathers.

6) that somehow, to be a Christian is to believe in the modern state of "israel", a colony created out of thin air by 2 Anglo-USAmericans drawning random lines on a map. Just because the name "israel" was chosen to be the same of the Kingdom of Israel in the Levant/Canaan region.
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>>30712081
Bold of you to call "Christianity" to whatever the demented USA preachers scream at the maga riffraff.
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>>30715815

And last but not least:

7) that being a "Christian" (aka a braineashed simpleton that believes that you have tbe obligation to believe in Jesus "divinity" or else you go to "hell") is to be a supported of the made-in-1947 colony kf "israel", whose existence depends on stealing land, war, oppression, terrorism (aka Mossad), and ethnic cleansing and even committing GENOCIDE of a Palestinian people that BELIEVES in the teachingsof the profet Jesus, only to replace that people with Jews/Zionists that do NOT believe in Jesus at all.

What's the difference between this and ISIS? In essence, none. And as we can see in Syria, ISIS/al-Qaeda terrorists were put in power by Mossad/CIA and are now supported by the Europe "of the values"...

If god really existed and was good, that would mean that all of these Christians would go to hell, while I, an anti-zionist atheist, would go to heaven. Because those Christians are pure evil bordering psychopathy, while I'm on the side of human rights and logic and listen to my clean conscience.
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>>30715689
i'm not Christian so no I don't. Nothing holy about that miserable desert.
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>>30715781
One of many sources:
https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1785/the-separation-of-christianity-from-judaism/

And those are facts.

The main sin of religious people (of any religion) is ignorance.

In other words, if mankind solved this problem (and found a way to end ignorance), then inevitably religion would also end.

People might still be agnostic, or chose to believe that perhaps the Universe was created by some higher power, but those disgusting ignorant cavemen Abrahamic religions would definitely end.

Let's use logic, shall we?

1) Bible accepts slavery, and even orders slaves to obey their masters.

2) Religious people say that human conscience is "god's voice", and in particular the New Testament says "god is good".

3) anyone with a functioning conscience, with decency, is against slavery.

These premises can NOT be true all at once. This is an undeniable fact.

My conclusion is that slavery is a bad thing, the Bible was written by stupid men, our conscience is a product of evolution (tribes with conscience, empathy, generosity, cooperation, love, family bonds, etc, were more successful than tribes of sociopaths, basically), and god dos not exist.

It's that simple.

Another funny way to look at this: the "good" "god" in the Bible allegedly committed genocide of INNOCENT CHILDREN AND BABIES in Egypt in the final "plague", instead of directly punishing the allegedly "bad" Egyptian pharaoh.

But that very same "god" did exactly NOTHING when the CHRISTIAN NAZIS were exterminating the Jews, and those Christian nazis were ultimately defeated by ATHEIST COMMUNISTS (of Russia and China, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, etc), with only a tiny bit of help from other allies in the final stage of the war.

Also, the "god" that "made man at his image", created babies born with deficiencies, lack of limbs, and also sociopaths and psychopaths, whose behaviour has nothing to do with free will, but with the NATURE they were born with.

Also, children with CANCER!
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I can't imagine being retarded enough to fall for religion.
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>>30716238
True.
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>>30712940
The penalty for getting in a fight that ends with a pregnant woman accidentally getting hit and miscarrying is a fine. That's your own fucking book.
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>>30716238
People are raised with it. You aren't superior.
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>>30716672
Raised with it and too stupid to ever question it
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>>30716671
And what they said is still true. Besides, your example is the death of an unborn child as a result of an unintentional accident, while their example was the wholesale slaughter of unborn children intentionally, and in most cases is a choice made by people who want act like adults but don't want to deal with the consequences of being one and the right to do so is defended, justified and many times celebrated as a women's right to choose.
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>>30716702
>unintentional accident
Fighting isn't unintentional, and most importantly, unintentionally causing the death of a child who's been born while fighting would get you exiled or killed. Causing the death of a pregnant woman herself would get you killed. They are not treated the same.
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>>30712081
These aren't Christians but yeah it is being used as a vehicle.
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>>30712081
Qatar & Democraps are paying these fruitcakes. They're all just driven by their egos to get clicks and make money anyway. Whores.
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>>30716782
I remember that one time when my government funded the genocide machine and healthcare of Qatar and started multiple wars for their territorial gain. Man that stuff is absolutely frustrating! Bunch of fruitcakes chasing clout.
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>>30715303
Charlemagne granted the jews exclusive rights to lend at interest and is responsible for ordering the massacre of verden. He's not that great.
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>>30712081
>>30712208
local retard thinks that boomer Christianity is true Christianity.
the pendulum is shifting, retard.
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>>30712239
hey retard, all the western values you hold as an atheist come from Christianity.
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>>30716895
Nigger fucking Constantine gave Jews preferential treatment.
>its da boomaz
Nah lil bro.
Its the very foundation of your philosophy.
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>>30716876
Christianity has always been a semitic vanguard.
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>>30716782
Democrats are paying off thr Pope, srnior Orthodox priests, and the conference of Catholic bishops and cardinals?
A likely story.
More likely?
You're coping.
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>>30716779
>These aren't Christians
>le real christianity hasn't been tried yet!!!
Sad
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>>30712208
No it isn't. It directly correlates with the rise of secularism
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>>30717036
And secularism just sprouted out of the ground one day?
Christianity was the Hegemon.
So any and sll changes had to be permitted by Chtistianity.
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>>30713362
simple ass
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I'm still waiting for any christians itt to refute 1 (1) of the videos itt.
They are just kvetching about abstracts instead..
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>>30717268
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it want to drink
>inb4 just le induce thirst lol
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>>30717294
Just induce thirst
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>>30712081
Christianity is the grandmother of Bolshevik communism. It should be easy to detect why that is.
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>>30712223
>>30713091
>>30713386
>>30713427
The ecosystem is truly nightmarish. On all levels it's just endless brutal war. One time in my own backyard I heard franctic chirping, and after searching for it I found a baby bird in the process of hatching that was being eaten alive by fire ants. Obviously God is not good, kind, loving or compassionate at all. As we can see from his creation, he is extremely brutal
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>>30717039
And Christianity just sprung from the ground one day?
Paganism was the hegemon.
So any and all changes had to be permitted by paganism.
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So..17 sfw files for a seperate board and...nearly 200 low-brained plebian cries for attention. Can we start actually caring about the categorization of this board? Because half of it has been desperate spergy look-at-me incel autists that are only here because /b/ rejects them and moves too fast to give them the proper attention that spoiled only-childs crave.
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>>30717895
so true
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Religion was corrupted into a political power play for the purpose of controlling human behavior, and gaining tax free revenue. It is based on false promises, threats, fear mongers, and assumptions. The church hustlers modified the books they claim is "God's word" so many times. They have destroyed all other books and writings, and murdered anyone that opposed them for thousands of years. That's not peace, love, and unity. THAT IS CONTROL.

The only people that know for sure where we go when we die are dead people. They don't talk to all of us. We should focus on living, not preparing for death.
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>>30716671
>Thinking a Christian has read the Bible
lol. lmao.
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>>30712990
If you think the spirit outlives this life, by definition you infinitely de-value this current life by comparison to an eternal one. This makes the Christian immoral and a threat to the only life we know we have.
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>>30714044
"Christian values" are just ancient Greek values that were stolen and slapped with a different label. So the only addition that can truly be called "Christian" is the dishonesty part.
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>>30716898
Christianity stole its values from the ancient Greeks and Romans with the addition of dishonesty and hubris. The USA wasn't founded on any Christian principle, it was founded on the model of the Roman Republic with the influence of Greek democracy. Not surprising that the uneducated would gravitate towards Christianity though, so you do you.
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>>30712857
Someone may have never heard the Gospel until your post, so now you've introduced the potential for someone to go to hell for rejecting it rather than purgatory or good-person-in-ignorance salvation. Repent yourself!
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>>30718032
XDXDXDXDXD
They've never read the book or even tried. The only thing Christian mythologists have read since 1996 is the local listings on the cable news that programs them.
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>>30712940
What is the first moment you regard a human being as having existed? And a reminder, nature itself aborts about 2/3rd of fertilized eggs, so God is already dangerously close to suborning mass child slaughter on an ongoing basis.
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>>30715392
Precisely. Thank you.
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>>30715325
Absolutely, post your LinkedIn.
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>>30718036
you're really shit at math, aren't you?
>be Holy now
>get to stay intact after death
or
>be a fuck up now
>get purified after death

super simple stuff, anon.
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>>30718070
>What is the first moment you regard a human being as having existed?
before the foundation of the world.
but a human body's life begins at the sperm and male masturbation is mass murder.
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>>30713655
Padre Is Yahweh powerful enough to create a world with free will but without cancer? Yes or No?
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>>30718070
Life begins with conception. You should learn all about that in 7th grade.
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>>30713091
God is not the ruler over the earth, Satan has principality over the earth after he challenged God's right to universal sovereignty, God has stepped aside for a time so humans can make an informed decision, are you going to side with the rebellious spirit with all it's perceived oppressions or the grand creator.
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>>30712208
I do not know what thoughts you are trying to convey. I assume that you hear that quite often each day.
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>>30712081
Contribute 2 or more additional related images when starting a thread (in addition to the OP).
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so many christians in the porn board
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>>30717895
It will never happen. You could give these chuds the most custom board possible and it would still be a ghost town. They don't wan't a forum, they desperatly want everyone to smell the stench of their Dunning/Kruger ignorance as pungently and as long as possible. So it will always be incel hillbillies delberitely using the wrong board and 4chud will never care because incelbillies are thier biggest source of engagement. Just laugh at them like everyone else does.
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>>30718181
So God set up a system where 2/3rds of all humans get killed before birth? Sounds pretty sadistic desu.
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>>30712208
>>30712239
the only good posts itt the rest devolve into different levels of cope
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>>30718158
You do realize sperm gets destroyed and recycled whether it is ejaculated or not, right? Right?
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>>30712081
yeah, its a trojan horse.
christanity (as its practiced today) will no longer exist in the future, or european/whites won't exist in the future

its one or the other
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>>30713457
>your trad christian wife, born again virgin
lmao
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My anti-Christcuck thread from several days ago got got like twenty replies. Whatever, fuck Christies, fuck jews, and fuck conservatives.
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>>30718924
>fuck Christies, fuck jews, and fuck conservatives.
yep...
with all that said, HT is a fed. funny, but is still a fed
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>>30712085
This is why I support the burning of churches. By anyone, even leftshits who think they're getting at whitey for it. Burn all semitism and treason. I'm proud to be an apostate to undo a little of this treachery.

>>30712089
John Woolman is who he is referring to. Do not ever think "wokeism" is something that started in 2016. It starting with Paul of Tarus. From the abolition of slavery, to the mass importation of Muslims; The final plan of Christianity is a pan-global Jew Order.


And conservatives will look you dead in the eye and call YOU the jew or indian if you see this and oppose it.
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>>30712081
>Christianity is sandbagging the Right
Judeo- Christianity, you mean.
The majority of narratives of race mixing are pushed, propagated, funded, fueled, instigated, initiated, and originate with a group of people who vehemently are opposed to it occurring within their own group upon other groups.
Any Christian that is well read in scripture knows that, ultimately, it's inconsequential about who one chooses to associate with in business, pray with, or eat with, and if God wanted to forbid race mixing the ofsping would be mules and incapable of continued procreation. So, natural law doesn't preclude it.
However, if one observes the advantages and disadvantages to loss of racial identity as well as hegemony, one could easily argue for less miscegenation purely as an advantageous path for hegemony.
My personal preference is pink nipples, a pink cooter, and a pink butthole. Now, one may think for a Christian this is a crude and lascivious statement, but I personally believe that the truth about preference would clear up a lot of issues. Fags would just say, "I do it for the power in this world" rather than lie about it. Of course, then they would be excluded from Christianity outright because that's really lasciviousness.
Case in point is Christians aren't sandbagging thw right, their just on a different level of authenticity.
I'm willing to bet that in this congregation in Riverside, less than 5% ate noticeably mixed race couples and 0% are trannies, fags or kikes. And honestly I can't say that for the majority of today's "right"
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The rage bait in this thread is endless. Same ole same ole.
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>>30719154
>If I don't agree it's ragebait

Good redditor. Go back to r/christianity.
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>>30716876
As I stated, he laid down reforms throughout his life until there was a universal ban on usury, enacted by him. All subjects, Jews or not were forbidden by his law and his descendants learned to hate them, for good reason.

Also I don't blame him for killing pagans either in that case. Not because I want to or for religious reasons, but they never kept their word to the Franks and kept trying to keep the old ways of cattle raiding and tribal squabbling alive. Those days had a heroic end with the Viking Age, the only group that really gave the Franks consistent trouble.

The Goths and Gepids, with dwindling numbers dealt with the last of the Huns. But then there were the Avars, Then the Mongols. More numerous arrow spammers and light cavalry dregs would just have kept coming and crushed Europe utterly in time. Meanwhile Charlemagne married the highest of Roman and Germanic tradition and reforged basically the continent. We need a hundred men like him. Practical and brutal men with true vision. Christian or not.
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>>30719160
>If you disagree with me, I'll throw out endless accusations to promote chaos
You are such a generic troll.
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>>30712081
> hey ill insult Christianity on the porno board
i mean i can post videos of women who could have been wives but chose to expose themselves on the internet instead out of a deranged sense of freedumb
>>30717970
>The church hustlers modified the books they claim is "God's word" so many times
the kjv has been the kjv since 1611. but yeah your point stands that religion exists to tell men to man up and marry used up holes so they can get the husband experience of getting henpecked to death
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>>30719015
>support the burning of churches
As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols.
>By anyone, even leftshits who think they're getting at whitey for it.
Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: 16The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: 17But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel. 18What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
>I'm proud to be an apostate
haha
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>>30719229
>Book of Kikes 6:7 Says ye who do not worship thee brown Yid will burn in thee jewish Hell o algo

Shove your cross up your sphincter.
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>>30718447
Wow! What God do you worship?
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>>30712081
Sir, this is /gif/. GTFO /pol/ack
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>>30717483
This.
Finally. Someone smart.
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>>30717596
Ahh thesecm are not like for like.
Where was the violent overthrow of Christianity?
There wasn't one.
Prayer waan't "taken out" of schools.
Christians were asked, and christians said yes.
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>>30712208
>jews target christian monarchies
>christian monarchies gets overthrown
>european nations become secular republics
>decline starts immediately after
sure thing
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>>30719015
10/10 post
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>>30712081
christianity is sandbagging the entire western european demographic*
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>>30719108
You can't divorce judaism from christianity.
You worship a rabbi ffs
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>>30719423
Jews have played a role in Christian administration simce Constantine.
Christianity has no philosophical immunity to Jews and never has.
Thus proving that they are a semitic vanguard.
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Still waiting for the christians itt to refute 1 (1!) Video that has been posted.
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>>30718924
I agree but that dude is a Muttmexican
If I met him in person I'd assume he was a Jeet
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>>30719434
wiggers that think judaism and Christianity are intertwined are the same retards who think le heckin wodan tree pagan worshipping is the true aryan way.
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>>30719563
>wiggers that think judaism and the worship of a rabbi from Judea are intertwined are the same retards who think the native religion of Europe is the true European way.
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Imagine thinking magic is real LMAO
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>>30719563
Good one retard. Christoids can't help but to flaunt how ignorant they are about other viewpoints every time there is an argument.
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>qatar carlson
>fara registered agent under qatar
>owns a mansion in qatar
>cia family
Wassalam alaykum OP
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>>30719438
Does that mean pedophilia cant be separated from Islam because muslims like you worship a pedo
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>>30719668
Interesting. He is a very good bullshit artist.
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>>30719668
Still waiting for Christians to refute
ONE
(ONE!)
video itt
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>>30719678
I'm not a muslim lmao.
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>>30719678
>Christians now saying
>omg you goys are so obsessed with Israel
Thanks for proving OP right. You are a Semitic Vanguard.
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>>30719423
The big decline happened because people took advantage of technology and trust in institutions to brainwash white people into opposing themselves. When I grew up in a completely atheist country I was optimistic and excited about the possibilities of the future until all the leftism and foreign interests came in to sabotage.
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>>30712081
all pagan "right wingers" deserve the state of the world as it is, you are all delusional subhuman vermin.
deserve to be raped to death by atheists.

>>30712208
retarded nigger
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I'm still waiting for any christians itt to refute 1 (1) of the videos itt.
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>>30719945
Talk about being redundant.
Can a Christian refute the videos for this desperate anon?
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>>30719679
can you trust a guy whos been on TV since he was 20 years old....also his father worked for the CIA.

Best case scenario? he's doing mocking bird tactics for person fame
worse case? its derailment and leading opposition.
but currently jews don't like him.... so I'm easy on him. its very similar to trump in 2015. so yeah. he's a plant. when does he bloom? idk, when jews need him to i guess
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>>30719960
He talks too much. He rarely lets other people talk (especially if they disagree with him). He's usually pushing propaganda or satire.
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>>30712081
Christianity is a problem but the biggest problem is that we have not yet developed anything people can get behind to replace it. Leftists are often saying now "the right doesn't actually believe in anything they have no grand vision we have le socialism" and there is truth in that
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>>30719308
There is so much more dignity in seeing reality for what it actually is than in worshiping ancient make believe fairy tale characters. The first step towards truth, beauty, and goodness is to reject these calls to be subservient to a deity who just so happens to always rely on self-appointed human representatives to tell you what he supposedly wants.
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>>30719406
No, people stopped being Christian and that's why they said yes.
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>>30720661
Why did they stop being Christian?



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