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Also, Dylan's comments really spoke to me.

>>30847317
In my honest opinion...
I think it's a good idea to advance laws regarding actual criminals rather than focusing on the issues of effeminate gay men, but...
I believe we must respect what each person wants to do regarding their sexual expression and identity. Society needs to think about this... God ordained that they would not be able to bring a new life into the world. That should be their only punishment.
No to gay adoption.
Remember what happened once in the USA.

>>30847317
I'll make a nationalist argument for it.

Let's say your country bans transgender surgeries in your country, they ban or reverse the recognition of gender changes, who suffers the most? Fellow citizens and the country.

The country suffers because these people take a lot of their money abroad, they get very expensive surgeries and spend their time over there before it's safe to travel home and then once they're back, it's your country and hospitals that has to fix any problems caused by that. It's your hospital beds going to people who went to another country, gave them a bunch of money and now they take up your money. If you have any socialised healthcare, now they're taking up even more because now you're footing the aftercare without any money from the surgeries itself.

And now the trans people themselves. Let's say we have 2 people, one who's a citizen of your country and ones who's a foreigner on holiday, let's say they're both trans women. Your country doesn't recognise the citizen transgender as the gender they want but the foreigner is recognised as their gender on their passport. Now what happens is the foreigner gets more rights than citizens. While the citizen is legally regognised as a man, the foreigner is legally recognised as a woman from a foreign state after they've been through a legal port of entry. By not recognising transgenders as their chosen gender, you're giving foreigners in countries where their gender is recognised, more rights in your own country.

So, the country will objectively lose money and you give foreigners more rights over citizens. You can't be a nationalist and argue for banning transgenders without solid answers for this.

I despise the retarded majority on this fucking planet a lot more than lgbt people. 80% of you mfs should be euthanized

>>30847475
You can absolutely be a Nationalist without capitulating to this.
The reality is that we cannot create laws based on unfalsifiable claims. We simply cannot do that. A Nation is not an abstract concept. It is a real, living, organism. The laws of the State which govern that Nation have to be based on what is real, falsifiable, and tangibly true.
Killing a person is illegal because it is a micro-treason against the Nation.
Stealing is illegal because it is an even smaller micro-treason against the Nation.
ALL legitimate crimes have a direct impact on the Nation.
Recognizing the nebulous, self-asserted identity of every individual who wants to exist outside of biological reality cannot be justified through this logic.
You can't say "refusing to call me 'she/her' is an attack against the organic substratum of the National identity"
Because you cannot prove, outside of self-assertion, that the claim is true.

>>30847317
what is this fucking video arrangement
god i hate phones they've ruined everything

>>30847500
No it's not an attack on the nation in an abstract. It's not killing a worker, a potential conscript, a father who could raise sons but it is giving rights to foreigners that you don't give your own citizens. Within your own borders, you'd be giving foreigners more rights.

Furthermore you purposely didn't counter the one that contradicts you which is the financial and hospital aftercare aspect. Objectively, transgender surgeries are expensive as fuck. When they go to get them, they have to stay for a long time because they can't immediately travel so on top of the expensive surgery, they're paying for a room and food, possibly even have a friend or family to help take care of them which is even more money. This is money that is getting taxed, by foreign countries. The money is being taken out of the economy and put into another country.

It's the same way how banning gay marriage is retarded. All you do is encourage citizen gay men, to take all their money that they'd spend on a big wedding and using it in a foreign country so that they can get a foreign marriage certificate because the state affords foreigners and foreign institutions more rights.

And an unrelated to the trans/gay and isolated to the UK case, body modifications.
Extreme body mods over here aren't legal, so how do people get their tongue split and other bullshit? They go to Sweden. They spend their money in Sweden and then any problems that arise from it they go to the hospital and the NHS, our taxes, pay for it. They pay a foreign economy and our economy fixes any problems, the Swedish economy gets the benefits but we get any negatives.

>>30847475
>>30847500
More generally this trans thing would go away if we banned media promoting it. You think it's organic that there are trans everywhere all of a sudden? I've even seen a mother with two trans sons ("daughters"). It's bad for us to have this problem, and its a creation of the ruling class which hates us.

>>30847593
Did you watch the videos thoroughly?

>>30847593
Agreed, I think transgenderism is vastly overblown, especially with autistics seeking out a low entry to barrier to community. It's a carbon copy of furries except they get more exposure and as such, more of them go that route instead.

Banning it, on top of my explained reasons, is an overreaction and undoing something that's existed for long. In the UK we've had gender recognition for 22 years now, nobody had any problems until maybe 2019 and really the extent of it was jokes about Bruce Jenner being called Caitlin Jenner.

Look on Google Trends and search up trans, transgender and non binary, there's a direct correlation to when lockdown began and people got bored at home and a spike in these terms being searched. These people got bored in their lives and this was the community and endless crusade they put themselves on.

>>30847593
You are so stupid it hurts. Trans people aren't made by propaganda. The fact that there is more people getting out of the closet is because the world is more accepting of trans people. It's the same effect we experienced in the previous century with gay people.
You are mixing correlation and causation, because you are dumb.
Trans and gay people always existed. Gender dysphoria is a medical condition backed by data and scientific research.

>>30847317
I think any good will anyone had for them has vanished or it will extremely fast, because the great majority of troons are either perverts of crazy anoying autists.

>>30847715
Trannies always existed but 'transexual' got its definition changed so the mentally lil or/and autistic can easily enter a community that enables self-destructive tendencies and presents the fantasy that if you become another person, your problems will go away
>99.9% of FTM are women with BPD that wouldn't enter the hype train if it wasn't a Tumblr gender cult, acts more womanly than average females due to estrogen imbalance
>lot of MTF are depressed men hating the shit that comes with being male, consuming "feel good vibes" of MTF community and effects of HTR like USA consumes corn syrup
>Other MTF trannies are just fetish shit and would fare better as transvestites
>only 1%~ of MTFs showed signs since birth and would still be trans if the modern LGBT community didn't existed

>>30847317
For trans people being a thing, I think it exists as a disability, but it's something wildly uncommon, and the amount of people that are actually trans isn't even close to the number claiming they are.

This leads me to the surgeries, they should be illegal because I consider the current surgeries to be abuse of the disabled.
They are advertised as something they aren't, cause tons of problems, and are pushed onto vulnerable people. I'll be okay with the surgery when it can actually change your biology back and forward, but we simply don't have the tech and the mutilation we have now is not okay.

>>30847317
Mentally ill fetishists.

>>30847317
>What are your honest thoughts on transgender people?
they don't exist because medical science isn't advanced enough to change chromosomes form x to y and vice versa.
maybe one day, but not in our lifetimes.
therefore, they're just crossdressers.

>>30847317
Its absolutely nuts that men can get extremely expensive purely cosmetic surgeries for free cause they have a mental illness. I say men cause trans men (women) can have only few surgeries provided by insurance. So in usa insurance covers surgeries for troons who want to have silicon breasts, fat crafting, full body bbl, facial feminization surgery, break all their ribs and resculpt them, voice feminization surgery, srs... If you need to this much stuff to be able to live as a woman, maybe you are not a woman.
This whole shit will fall down after the first cis women sues insurace companies for sex discrimation cause they don't get rib sculpt or BA for free. After that troons will be forced to pay for their own shit.

>>30847524
Your argument is that people will go to other countries to get surgery if they can't get it domestically. They already do this. According to a lazy google search, the "top" surgeons are in Canada and Thailand. People already travel overseas to do this regardless of how accepted it is. How do you intend to prevent this regardless of how accepted the practice is when the determining factor in who a person chooses to hire to mutilate their body is skill weighted against cost.
People are going to see this "Dr. Pichet" from Thailand who charges $30,000 USD.

To your other point about "rights"
I don't see how it's relevant. Child marriage is legal in Yemen. If a person from Yemen travelled to the USA with his 11 year old wife, they would not have the same rights or protections as they would in Yemen. In fact, he would likely be arrested.

Furthermore. You do not get "more rights" by having "female" on your passport vs "male" on your passport.

Your argument revolves around money, and that tells me you're a kike.

>>30847883
>You do not get "more rights" by having "female" on your passport vs "male" on your passport.
You get the right to apply for womens grants for college, the right to compete in womens sports, and the right to be housed with female inmates if youre imprisoned.
FtM trannies basically lose a lot of rights and privileges.

>>30847905
But the argument that british retard was making was that if we stopped recognizing trannies then some tourist who comes from another country where trannies are recognized would have more rights than domestic faggots.
Tourists can't apply for grants, and aren't they deported instead of thrown in jail?

What’s truly frightening is that some deranged person actually took the time to create and edit this video. I couldn’t imagine having a mind so full of nonsense that this is what it creates. Anyone judging someone else’s sexuality is a garbage person.

>>30847317
wrong board you retarded faggot

>>30847951
Fuck that, not judgind mentally ill people is what is destroying the west.

I want and do respect them IRL, the only thing that doesnt click for me is how and why they just wanna represent the different gender.
Gender doesnt exist, only our sex does, me as a male i can wear a skirt and go have tea with my friends and a woman can have short hair and play football its no difference, only societal, which is not real.
So if trannies think like that too, then why do they have the need to "represent" the other gender or "feel" like it? Theres no difference in what u can freely do in life between a man and a woman, so why change? "Feeling" like a man or a woman doesnt mean anything u can do whatever lol. In fact its damaging to everyone that they represent the gender steryotypes that much.

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>>30848012
Agreed but if they could keep their lifestyle private would be even better, but they don't and this is the problem

Why do you freaks care so much?

>>30847317
>>30847317
My honest take.
Transgenderism is largely due to the lack of positive male role models in modern socity causing young boys to be tricked by women who think they are doing good into believing they are actually girls.

When you are a child you are largely valued the same, be you boy or girl. In society children are the most valued, protected, and shielded group ever. The next most protected and secure group are young women, then a good distance removed, are men who are the least valued and least protected members of socity.

What happens is, as a child grows, and started to enter into adulthood, the jump from childhood to woman hood is a very short jump in terms of responsibilties and protection, you are still looked after, cared for, and have socital safety nets. But from child hood to manhood is a cliff, you go from being the most protected, to the least valued group in socity. Now this is a terrorfying thing for a child. Normally there would exist in society positive male role models that would usher in young boys into men so that it was not nearly as intimidating, because young boys would be able to see that they could do it, because their fathers were able to do it, and so they are able to repeat it.

However in modern socity we have demonized male rolemodels from being masculine, there is a massive reduction in fathers in home, and as a result a lot of these young boys are confused and scared about being throw to the wolves. So in come "Experts" who explain their anxiety, confusion, and fear of becoming a man as a sexual thing, and tell them no you are actually a woman. Which to them makes sense because being seen as a woman in society extends childhood protections and lack of responsibilities.

Dotn care. Let the experts figure it out. If at some point, the argument comes that surgery/treatment is not cosmetic in nature and that it should be protected, then so be it.

>>30847317
It’s actually sexist at its core when you really think about it. Being a woman isn’t a “feeling” and wanting to wear dresses ‘n’ doesn’t make you a woman. It’s like if I went around saying I’m a black man because I like rap music and fried chicken. They act like they’re the progressive ones but they’re not.

>>30848104
If tomorrow you woke up in the body of the opposite sex, you dont think you would feel some sort of anxiety apart from the initial shock? Even after living 10+ years in that body, you dont think you would be trying to find some way to switch back?

>>30847317

Transgenderism is just an easy escape road for primarily Americans who have a culture where sexuality is repressed. It's an easy cop out when people can't admit to themselves that they are gay, so they come up with this construct that lets them change their gender to female, despite still having a 100% male body. Many trooners are unable to find a partner due to the massive shame of being a homosexual, they think homosexual culture is embarrasing and viewed as degenerate and subhuman, which it absolutely is. But they build this parallel identity alongside homosexuality which is even more degnerate and depraved, yet they will do anything, as we've seen, to become accepted. To them, transgenderism is not homosexuality but is its own thing. Their concept of gender is convoluted, meaning they want the femininity of women but also are confused by homosexuality, so they end up wanting the best of both worlds. That would be fine, if they could just label themselves as bisexuals, but the whole impossible concept of changing a gender, which is not medically possible now or in the near future without a full body swap, is not fine.

The real good thing to do would be to address the repressed sexuality issue in American culture without giving into degeneracy or whore culture where intimacy is eradicated and everything is turned into sexuality. The real thing to do would be to eradicate homosexual culture and replace it with a more neutral, less stigmatic culture where people can be homosexual or bisexual without being demonized and categorically denied based on the existing homosexual degeneracy. The whole pride shit is detrimental to people who want to be themselves but are forced into a larger movement which is always degeneracy that leads to pedophilia.

>>30848117
No lol I’d be the same person just with a pussy and tits.

>>30847792
>only 1%~ of MTFs showed signs since birth and would still be trans if the modern LGBT community didn't existed
This, growing up literally ONE person told me he thought he was actually a girl, he was an Indian (Native American) or Mexican boy of about 12 and he told me when I was about 10 or so, that was the ONE time I heard about trans but they kept putting gender switching in movies like Mrs. Doubtfire and all those black men in dresses, in the late 2010s trans was still a fringe thing in places like Marin County, and then there was an explosion in trans after the COVID lockdowns ended.

>>30848140
See my reasoning here as to why its taking off now in modern times. >>30848077

>>30847317
number 1, not people.

why the fucking shit is this dogshit thread still up

>>30848434
Because debating about why and how transsexuals are so fucking obnoxious is worth talking about.

>>30847317
I like jerking it to the hot ones.
ugly ones can kill themselves

>>30847792
>bunch of wild allegations and numbers
Can you provide your source, please.
>>30848140
>personal anecdote = statistical data
You are a low IQ retard.

The scientific consensus also claims that bigotry is correlated to low intelligence and low education (actual studies backed by empirical data).
Checks.

>>30848832
>Low IQ
Yu dont really get to use that line if you are on the side that thinks a man with a cock and put a dress on and possibly cut his dick off and is magically a woman.

>>30847715
finally someone with some sense.

This thread is already over from this video. Science has already proven that being transgender is something that begins in the brain and can never be reversed by medication or talk therapy. Female brains in male bodies are literally real. Being transgender is like being gay or left handed, and most importantly, there is no way to reverse it. It is a normal part of human variation. Wish I could make a webm of this video but I can’t at the moment.

If you actually care about this topic for whatever reason, it starts here. Nothing in this video is based on ideology, and arguing with science without applying science automatically makes you a retard.

https://youtu.be/8QScpDGqwsQ?is=uPnu57j9oErrmcGE

Transgender people have existed for hundreds of years and there's specific evidence of their erasure throughout the decades. Nobody used to care until pearl-clutching conservatives made it a political talking point to separate and "other" people who don't deserve it anymore than you or I deserve it.

And what nobody realizes is that by demonizing transgender people, they are *making* them into demons. Hit a good dog enough times and you're going to get bitten. Which then just becomes more ammo for bad actors to prove their confirmation bias.

They are just human beings. They want to live happy, comfortable lives just like anyone else. And the less safe they feel, the more cornered you make them, the more they are going to lash out. Acceptance is the only path forward, and acceptance really isn't very hard.

I think they're physically repulsive and mentally ill. Most of my interactions with them have been pure cringe of the terminally online, overly sexual variety. Most trans women I met have distinctly male hobbies, interests and behaviours. They don't fucking pass.

I still think they have the freedom of being what they want, doing what they want and that they have an inalienable right to pursue happiness just like the rest of us

>>30847317
I just replace the prefix trans with the word fake, and it clears it all up for me.

Personally I think we should allow transgender people in the restroom because rapes are going to happen whether or not transgender people can come in. That is like saying gun free zones can prevent gun crime, criminals are going to commit the crime anyway so it doesn't matter we should let law abiding citizens into their respective zones / bathrooms

>>30848846
It's not magic. Gender is not the same as biological sex. You'd know that if you weren't low IQ as I said.

>47R2I

Came here just to point this out.

>>30847384
It's a wedge issue and corporate dem subhumans are feckless cowards giving republican child raping asswipes leeway to play that nonsense issue up as oligarchs and billionaires rape america to death
I'm honestly hoping DSA dems mamage to name the corporate demand blame the corporate dem so that the political landscape in America might be less of a dystopian corporate epsteinite monoculture
Trans rights are human rights, fuck israel and death to maga pedophiles

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>>30849113
Total tranny death to you faggotroons that's what I think. You ugly disgusting subanimal faggotroons. You will never be a woman.

>>30847317
didn't watch
didn't listen
I'm not going to waste my time listening to a hole

ttd
tfd

don't bother asking me for further clarification or explanation: what I said is crystal clear.

>>30850117
Transgender people existed before you were born and they will continue to exist long after you die. Cry harder, you impotent manlet.

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>>30850139
KKEKK Transgenders don't exist and not a single one of your deluded estrogen induced hallucinations you take for "evidence" will ever prove reality wrong. You will disgrace your bloodline, mutilate and hang yourself on a noose, and your rotting bones will appear in a petri dish that will say XX chromosomes as the last and only memory of your existence in this universe. Die harder you seething faggotroon

>>30849723
Trans have the single right to be collected in garbage trucks and compressed into a biomass filth cube to be rocketed into outer space as to wastefully comprise the least possible volume in the universe as far from humanity as possible

Faggots.


Debate ended.

"Transgender isn't an illness, that's why we have to treat it with hormon replacement therapy, and if you don't say I'm a woman because I wear a dress, I will cut my dick to show you I'm a woman"

1. Why do some dudes hates trannies so much?

2. How many actual trannies are there on 4chan?

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thinking about trannies right now is arguably the gayest and most cucked shit possible. a convicted rapist listed in the epstien files destroying the country for israel
>"yes daddy donald! fuck my country harder, ill be your pay piggie for israel mista pwesident"
fucking pathetic, lmao

Kill them all

>>30848104
Exactly, it's a misogynist playground

>>30847317
What the fuck you fucking retard nigger

>>30850268
You can only hide behind your excuses for so long. Death will come for you. Will you put "kek" on your tombstone?

>>30847484
That's because you despise yourself.

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>>30847715
Eh, the tranny fad is already dying out. It's not unique enough any more, kids that would have become trannies a few years ago instead pretend to be animals now, twenty years ago they would have become scene kids. They treat sexuality like some kind of fandom. Too bad for all the people who mutilated their genitals.

>>30847999
The West is long overdue for a collapse. We need it like a forest needs a wildfire. After that perhaps things will go back to more normal.

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>>30848077
This is very well put. Autistic men with extremely low sexual and social value can skyrocket from the lowest social rung to being paraded in the streets. Trooning out also follows a flow-chart that is very pleasing to the autistic mind, with every procedure and operation you get one step closer to being a woman, with the final one being genital surgery.

>>30848434
In contrast to Reddit threads here aren't deleted for wrongthink.

Nuke Israel

>>30848077

Blaming lack of strong male influence for trans is guzzling some next level psyop cumslop. You non-shill redditors are so fucking pozzed.

Trans is just one nasty component of the massive multi-pronged attack on the west. It's all so organized and structured. And it's dreadful how many invested parties there are in trans.

The fucking commies want to erase culture, sap the family of its strength, keep everyone off-balance. Trans the next generation and wipe out 15% of western/white breeders. Just one more desperate gambit for the vaunted revolution THAT YOU WILL NEVER GET COMMIE SCUMBAGS!

The satanic 6-gender believing khazarian talmudic trashcan subhumans are just serving their evil god by hawking trans sex magic. You will not escape karma you gnomes! God sees you!

The HUGE medical industry rakes in a lifetime profits from trannies who go all the way. The fashion of binding tits, tucking balls, and falsies is $$$ and mainstreamed with retailers like Amazon.

Corporate and governments normalize the fringe, affirm and celebrate behaviors what were previously recognized mental conditions to thin the herd of the weak and vulnerable.

Intelligence services weave their webs and prey on kinks by saturating places like this with sissy hypno.

The inevitable crushing lawsuits against the profiteers will finally end this craze. The satanists will recede into the shadows and make another push in 50 or 100 years just like they did after Weimar.

If you are tranny, I am sorry you were so preyed upon. Your flesh was weak, it happens, don't beat yourselves up too much. Normies aren't to blame for the psyop though; stop sperging out and shooting at us. Obviously you should come back to earth, clean up, and find Jesus.

I've met and dated a few trans women. There are two types:

- Some don't play the "men can be women" game and by and large know they are essentially gay men and will admit that they want to be with other men but don't like the gay "aesthetic". They by and large want a "straight man" and all that would normally encompass. These are the handful of transwomen I've dated. Passable, feminine and just want to live their life.

These trans can stay.

- The other are the queer theory bullshitters bearded dudes in dresses.

They can go.

>>30847317
imo we should round up every troon and publicly execute them

>>30847317
>What are your honest thoughts on transgender people?

I support TTD.

>>30847681
You sound like such a faggot holy shit.

Trannies should be banned from life. They are disgusting mutants.

>>30850741
>MUH IS WOMAN BECAUS SAID SO DUHHRRR STOP HIDING BEHIND EXCUSES DRRUHHHRRRRR
You howling retard sure let's put kek on mine

>>30851127
Into the fucking Oven you faggotroon

>>30847317
I don't hate people purely for the act of being transgender/transsexual, but I acknowledge that these type of people are not the sharpest tool in the shed. Transgenderism is almost always co-morbid with other mental illnesses and personality traits that usually make them unpleasant people to be around, even if you perfectly respect every of their whims and desires. In too many experiences to count, I've seen transgender people join friend groups, only to get themselves forced out with their obnoxious behavior, and it always plays out the same, usually being sparked over a minor disagreement on anything that the transgender person blows out of proportion until they're told to leave/gets kicked out. It also does not do any favors that their appearances naturally have an uncanny valley factor to them. They can kind of sort of look like a woman, and some get pretty close from certain angles, but every time there are just too many things that are off, and ends up with them being either disconcerting to look at, unintentionally funny, or a combination of the two.
I do not "hate" or "dislike" transgender people and I won't openly discriminate or ostracize them, but because of the above, I'm naturally more weary of them than the average person.

>>30847317
Sexual degenerates taking advantage of the genuinely mentally ill to mainstream their fetishes. I do believe there are people who are so deeply sick that they can no longer identify with their own body and want to remake it into a perfect, imagined ideal, but I also think for every desperate, sad sufferer, there's a degenerate who gets off on the exhibitionist element of performative, cartoonish femininity. Fundamentally people should be allowed to do whatever they want with their lives and bodies, but no one should be forced to engage with the mentally ill in the paradigm of their delusion, or the sexually perverse in the bounds of their fetish. I use they/them and refuse to discuss politics, gender or sexuality in any shape or form with these people, because their unifying characteristic is the constant need for reaffirming by strangers, and I refuse to be party to that.

>>30851220

> I'm naturally more weary of them than the average person

Did you mean weary, as in tired? Or wary, as in cautious?

>>30850837
Jews created pandemic on Jewish owned mass media and sell to goyim injections, produced by companies owned by Jews

>>30850117
And then these animals have the audacity to call transgender people mentally ill.
Case in point, bigots are low IQ monsters.

>>30850761
>Eh, the tranny fad is already dying out.
Not really. The thing that happened is that there's a new anti-trans government in place, so people are again afraid of coming out because of fear.
Let me guess, you have a very low education, right?

>>30851220
>I acknowledge that these type of people are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Peak irony, since it's scientifically proven by studies that the vast majority of bigots that reject LGBTQ+ rights are low educated and/or have low intellect.

>>30847317
My honest take.

It is obviously a mental illness let’s start with that. But If you are a man with a dick and you get off by acting like a woman, then you have a mental illness.

My issue comes with
>Parades
>Children
>Propaganda

If your entire identity revolves solely around how, what and who you like to have sex with, that’s pathetic and it means you have nothing else of value other than your sexual proclivities as your identity.

If you like strangers shooting aids and communicable diseases in your anus and mouth, many of which can’t be cured, cool. But stay the fuck away from kids. Why do you need a drag queen to read to children who barely understand how a pen works? What is the reason? Leave kids out of it, and stop with the hormone blockers, fucks kids up for life.

The propaganda, I’ve seen maybe 1 trans person in my entire life, yet I am called to support them, take part in their delusions, and see them represented in literally every aspect of life despite the fact they are almost non existent.

It would be like me going to Norway as an Italian guy, and then because I’m in the country of Norway they now alter their commercials, shows and movies to
Include Italians so I feel better. It’s insane

>>30851468
So all the doctors that went to and Graduated medical school and received their Doctor of Medicine degree are all low iq right wing bigots because they agree that biological males cannot bear children, have no womb and cannot menstruate??

You are aware that not every doctor jumps on the political activism/ politically and socially virtuous bandwagon right?

Some doctors will literally tell you straight to your face that you need to see a psychiatrist and a therapist if you tell them as a biological male that you identify as a woman.

>>30847475
oh no! an insignificant amount of money is leaving the country!!!
fucking kill yourself, tranny.

>>30847317
i dislike them, generally i encounter more then most people through work, especially with the males pretending to be females i am on edge as if i know that there is a derangement and they may be unpredictable this is not specifically from them wearing women's clothes but you could tell there was something off regardless. for example
>50 year old man wearing old granny clothes clutching a handbag fully bald with 5oclock shadow and behaves like he has a disability.
the female to male ones are pathetic, I'm not a physically imposing man but when i compare myself to them its laughable, they are almost always overweight and try and have disgusting pube like facial hair which i casually mog by being depressed and shaving intermittently. the F2M will always try and be overly vocal, where as most men will just simply smile or nod in acceptance or just say a simple "thank you" the F2M will say something along the lines of "erm yes nice one BRO" which for one isn't the local dialect at all but it all but confirms they are a woman if it wasn’t completely clear before.
my work is near a military base and the connection with autism which people assign correctly to trans also has a connection with the military which is why i encounter so many.
some further examples are
>cross dressing man with his extended family
he looked embarrassed to be out and his grandmother was acceptive but clearly embarrassed as he is clearly just a man in old women clothes, this one seemed more of a sexual fetish
>army sergeant who wears vibrant pink wig and has a wife and children
this man makes me feel on edge he is disgusting to look at and makes me wary he seems deranged.
>three fat F2M these girls might pass on their own if they did not speak
they seem mind bulled by tick tock, they are unattractive enough that no men really looked at them anyway. they live on the army base so i assume they are a product of emotional or sexual abuse from a soldier with mental issues such as ptsd

I never cared about adult men getting sex change surgeries. Gross and weird but none of my business. What I can't accept are the ideas that a man who lops his dick off is now indistinguishable from a natural woman and that kids have to b begin transitioning early for it to really work. Both of those are fucked up.

>>30851610
>So all the doctors that went to and Graduated medical school and received their Doctor of Medicine degree are all low iq right wing bigots because they agree that biological males cannot bear children, have no womb and cannot menstruate??
No. You just created a strawman, just so you can have something to say.
Nobody says that except for bigots in the opposition, because they love to make up claims that scientists, doctors and even trans people never said.
Trans women are still biological males.

Stop being dishonest if you want to have an honest conversation.

>>30851603
>It is obviously a mental illness
You are wrong.
"The ICD-11 removed transgender health issues from the mental and behavioral disorders chapter entirely, reclassifying it as "gender incongruence" under sexual health to reduce stigma."
Just as homosexuality, transgender condition is no longer categorised as a mental illness.

The Emperor has no Clothes

“Trans Women” are men who are drawn to modern gender roles for women. Long hair, foundation makeup. The more severe ones have body dysmorphia and mutilate or inject themselves to change their bodies. The Left instead of trying to prevent mutilation, actively enables it.

And to assert that being drawn to cultural gender norms mean their sex and biology is the same as a woman, therefore women should not exclude them from their gendered spaces, is insane, it’s mental illness that has become a secular religion.

Trans people have been around for centuries, though. Every trans person I know is pretty cool. Trans women give crazy head, too, so like, that's also rad. Transdude pussy is way better, too, the T makes them wet 24/7 and the increase in muscle mass from the T makes the pussy grip absolutely batshit insane. If you don't like trans people it's because you're not fuckin' em.

Also y'all are getting bio sex and gender mixed up, which is the problem. Bio sex is genitals, gender is all societal stuff, like "Boys like blue, girls like pink." That's not genetics, that's someone just telling you that and you believing it.

Also y'all need to like, go outside or get a hobby and off here for a while. This ain't healthy.

>>30848117
I'd masturbate and laugh at troons

>>30851603
Trans people don't wanna fuck kids, though? Whoever's telling you that is lying to you. They mostly just wanna fuck each other. If you're a cis white dude you're way, WAY more likely to be raping kids. If it's about the children, every youth minister and right-leaning cis white dude should be under scrutiny, they're the ones proven to be raping kids. It's got nothing to do with the kids. It never has, but it's easy to go "UH BUT THE CHILDRENS".

And if you've only ever met one trans person, why are you worried about them? It's not like a pack of them is gonna pull to up a preschool or something. That's stupid.

I just don't really give a shit and I can't imagine why someone would. I'm still a little split on the sports debate because a biological male would typically have many advantages over biological women in most sports, but apart from that they're just people to me.

I think right wingers who have trans people on the brain 24/7 are absolute losers.

>>30852023
This is the correct position.

>>30852000
LMAO shut the fuck up trannie faggot freak. None of that bills hot is true. All trannies I've met have been disgusting lovers with insufferable personalities.

Like nearly every troon I've met has either had BPD or narcissism. I'm pretty sure it's a requirement to be fucked up enough to troop out.

>>30852023
Thankfully you'll never have kids so you won't have to worry about a mentally ill crossdressing troon being in the same bathroom as a young girl

>>30851455
Wanting to exterminate biologically defective mutants is a healthy and normal part of human nature.

You are physically and spiritually diseased, and you try and force your mental illness down others throats via the government and corporate policies.

Any man who is compelled by a mental illness into castrating himself is someone who should be ostracized from society.

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>>30847317
You have a generation of mentally ill losers that think paying Pfizer to chemically and often physically castrate them is pwning capitalism. If it was real detransitioning wouldn't exist, it's all based on feelings and the feelings of gullible loners at that

>>30852441
>Wanting to exterminate biologically defective mutants is a healthy and normal part of human nature.
No, normal human nature is empathy. We use empathy and understanding in order to advance our species. We can thrive only as a group. Social cooperation and acceptance is natural and beneficial, while psychopathic lack of empathy and understanding is detrimental.
You are the outlier our species doesn't need.

>>30851401
Cautious

I think faggots are nothing but cumm receptacles and should live as second class citizens or slaves, used for domestic and sex work, and in exchange of that, they can get tits and ass done.

>>30852488
Loud science deniers like you will never stop to be funny.

>>30852023
Thank you. I don't get why some people give a shit. I see like 100 people discuss trans people every day when I've met life 5 trans people in my whole life. And all of them were perfectly normal people, disappointingly boring even. I don't get why this is such a huge topic. Just have basic human decency and treat strangers with respect.

As for the sports issue, I think the trans thing confronts us with the fact that sports are inherently unfair. It's always been pure luck whether you're genetically predisposed for being a runner or not. We were able to ignore that for a while and convince ourselves that an extra category for women suddenly makes it "fair" but I don't think we'll ever have a satisfactory answer for the sports issue.

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>>30852649
Science is directly responsible for every forever chemical in the environment, excess greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere and microplastics being found in penile tissue and placentas so I take that as a compliment. But in actuality there is no scientific basis or consensus in the belief that a human male cutting his off cock off via amazon prime subscriptions instalments now makes him a human female, you're just a product of corporate propaganda and profiteering :^)

>>30847484
there's one more that needs to be euthanized than you think there is...

>>30852691
Ridiculous simpleton mentality.
You are not stupid because you are a bigot, you are a bigot because you are stupid.

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>>30852775
You can't refute anything because your brain is mush from the cocktail of meds the system you think you're rebelling against has you on.

>>30852834
You are the one trying to refute science, not scientists as in singular people, science and the scientific method, the best tool we have to study reality and learn truth about the world.
You are a narrow minded moron, with a conspiracy theory mind.
I repeat, you aren't a stupid because you are a bigot/science denier, you are a bigot/science denier because you are stupid.

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>>30852906
The scientific method is a tool, the people who use said tool can be just as fallible as any other human being. The process can be corrupted and abused to achieve a particular outcome if necessary. There is a replication crisis in the social sciences particularly and studies are often sponsored by bad actors in favor of a particular outcome. Trannies are simply customers, customers for life a that, it is now a multi billion dollar industry. To put it simply you are not a human female if you cut off your cock and take hormone pills, that is scientific fact regardless of what your pals Nike and DoorDash say.

>>30847475
>If you have any socialised healthcare

Your argument just convinced me that socialized healthcare is bad because trannies will abuse it. So just ban trannies and healthcare. Problem solved.

As for the foreigners argument, just stop recognizing foreigners as human beings. Then their gender won't matter.

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Trans people are people. I'll judge each person based on their character and actions. Most of whom I met seem fine enough in day to day interactions.

Trans activism, however, has long since jumped the shark. I've withdrawn my support for most tenets of trans rights after diving into those communities and watching them change.

It started out reasonable with stating that some people have a mental disorder and needing assistance after trying everything else. Employment/housing discrimination is also reasonable to fight.

Gender dysphoria was de-pathologized. And now it is seen as natural and healthy, but still needs to be medicalized or else. Trans also now encompasses anything for any reason. It doesn't require dysphoria, HRT, or surgery. It is now purely an unfalsifiable belief. If you say you are a x/y you are. No actions required.

There's no sane way of enacting laws around such postmodern notions, so logically I won't support it.

Speaking of logic, the trans movement has nearly zero. "An x is an x because it identifies as an x" is not reasoning I'd accept in *any* discipline. I don't even know what kind of fallacy it is to see a policy, change the words in the policy, and proclaim that's now the intent. That's second grade level reasoning. We all know laws around men and women mean sex, not gender and definitions aren't expected to be 100% seamless. Who thought it was even reasonable to change laws around descriptive concepts to prescriptive wholesale?

What about just the social aspects? "We just want to be left alone." No, you do not want to be left alone. Demanding all of society change for you in ways that benefit you and not them in the slightest? From pronouns, to single sex spaces, and all the way to redefining all of biology. That is the precise opposite of wanting to be left alone.

It was reasonable now it's a trainwreck. Until it gets under control, support will continue to wane.

>>30853147
-_-.... Fucking hell.....

Calm down It's only an online cartoon.
Knowing full well how much radium I could bring to Sidirovich from that fandom would make me richer in the zone than any other debil, faggot.

>>30852431
I'm cis but damn you're mad lol

>>30847715
>Gender dysphoria is a medical condition backed by data and scientific research.
No, it isn't and even if it were the data says gender affirming care doesn't work & in fact, in the majority of cases, makes things worse. Just cause a person suffers from a particular type of delusion doesn't mean it's ok to encourage it. To meet reality objectively is always the best course.

>>30850292
shut up retarded subhuman

>>30853643
>No, it isn't and even if it were the data says gender affirming care doesn't work & in fact, in the majority of cases, makes things worse. Just cause a person suffers from a particular type of delusion doesn't mean it's ok to encourage it. To meet reality objectively is always the best course.
Nice pile of steaming lies.
All I said is information available on WHO's website.
Gender affirming care is the best solution for transgender people we have at our disposal right now. Statistical data proves this. All info available on WHO.

There are real trannies but they are so rare that they are overshadowed by far by perverts and groomed retards. The source of this social phenomena is the downstream result of neomarist post modernist crap that explicitly intend to destroy society in an attempt to reach heaven on earth.
The fears of slippery slope are underestimating the problem, the slope is being actively lubed.