>>30907176Lenin is so Young:
>>30907132Don't we already have enough faggot threads up?
>>30907206with you present we've got another faggot. So thank you princess for speaking up
>>30907132
>>30907132you all think you're Ivan Drago but you're these guys
>>30907136Translating the original word for word in corrections if possible.>1:56>...all this applies to the wise.>I can do that.He really says "All that I cannot do.">2:00>Not really, I live in dark times"Really, I live in dark times">2:25>My food, I slept between battles..."I ate my food between the battles. I slept among murders. I treated love carelessly">2:54>Language betrayed me to the worse"The language gave me away to the slaughterer"
>>30907552*slept among murderers
I've got a few
>>30907199>pervyykek
>>30907554thanks, comrade.
>>30907133the english version is kinda fire too
Ernst Busch - Das Lied vom Klassenfeindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61B2oN5tV3M
Floh de Cologne - Die Luft gehört denen, die sie atmen(The air belongs to those who breate it)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iLTtVgXhbY
>>30908642Fascists hate catshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Jn4gdwls8
>>30908698wrong
>>30908532What's the point in removing a king just to have a violent dictator take his place?
>>30908753commietroons don't think about that, they're convinced that if another stalin came along the world would be a big troon pride parade all the time and their endless surgeries to repair their mutilations would be free and they'd never have to get a job because wealth distribution etc etc.
another tranny thread nice
GORILLA NIGGER
>>30908802Very wrong. 1. Communism is not the movement of one Person, it is the movement of the masses2. Communism is not about identity, but the absence of identity3. Everybody has to work, with fewer exceptions than in contemporary capitalismBut seriously, i don't know why some people link Communism directly to Trannies.And for other topics, i suggest listening to Slavoj Žižek.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QARALafdWUI
屠洪刚 (Tu Honggang) - 天上太阳红彤彤 (Red Sun in the Sky)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNpRbNdR7E
>>30908863atyour next commie meeting, say the following two sentences.>"I dunno guys, wealth distribution might be a little unfair"and >"I dunno guys, I think their might only be two genders and they can't be changed.and see which gets you ostracised from the movement.
>>30908863>1. Communism is not the movement of one Person, it is the movement of the massesit's one person moving the masses into work camps>2. Communism is not about identity, but the absence of identitywe know, you want to turn every individual into an insectlike worker drone. look at china and russia's military tactics.>3. Everybody has to work, with fewer exceptions than in contemporary capitalismand with no reward for their work, either. just bread, a literal slave food that keeps people healthy enough to work but too weak and fat to fight.I'm no capitalist, I'd rather we were still stone-age hunter-gatherers. the domestication of grain gave us the first huge populations, and the first kings, who desired more power so declared war on rival kings.bread was the end of humankind.we could be nomadic tribes of no more than a thousand or so following around our herd of aurochs, living on their milk and meat, occasionally hunting and trapping wild game, and dancing around the campfire every night and fucking constantly with no kings trying to control us.
>>30908890Yes, i like to point that out to them quite frequently, to unnerve my leftist "friends" and remind them of this fact because they really tend to be carried away by this solidarity for Transpeople and so on.Nonetheless i support their demands, because here i would like to remind you that it isn't some simple "oh, i want to be transgender now" (and to those who are like that, they can fuck themselves)Slavoj Žižek - Why I'm Against Both Sides in the Transgender Debatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sLJkQq38fs
>>30908753the end of absolutism and hereditary monarchy, and the whole class structure that relied on the aforementioned? a violent system will defend itself by violence, it's not gonna be toppled by love and peacedespite the heavy-handed measures to establish and sometimes maintain the soviet system, it was a far better place for a regular citizen to live than imperial russia: a son of a farmer or a miner could become an academic or a politburo member. the average prewar soviet citizen was more cultured than their counterparts in the core industrial countries, due to mass educational programmes and policies to bring high culture to the masses with touring theatres and orchestras for example.
>>30907132---->/b/ or /pol/ or /wsg/ newfriend lurk more bye
>>30909004idgaf what some fat intellectual has to say.intellectuals are beta males who cause the vast majority of man's problems by virtue of simply outnumbering actual men and making "democracy" merely the tyranny of weak insecure men who despise the strong because it's the strong ones who the women choose to mate with.cuckstianity did irreperable damage to the west by enforcing monogamy and controlling women to make sure beta males and weaklings all got a motherwife to wipe their arses for them and breed with, the logical conclusion being the "happy wife, happy life" boomer who hides in his fucking shed all the time and can't even cook for himself while his wife controls the entire house and despises her husband for his weakness.
>>30909044kek this nigga thinks that all those illiterate russian peasants with their own farms and communities were happier after the industrialisation of their lives and being conscripted into a meat grinder because they got to watch some "high culture" faggy touring orchestra that came to their village once a decade.fuck I wish that was bait but commies really are this delusional.
>>30909114yeacivilisation is goodyou can go jerk off to being based and trad in siberia before shitting yourself to death
>>30908933to No.1: You refer to the structuring system. Communism is neither only the structuring system nor the revolutionary moment, it is an eternal category.Some call it the permanent revolution, but i claim it is even a little bit higher than that; something like a constant circulation between whatever capitalism will be and a new communism in the order of their time, a total process.to No.2: No, forget about china, that's practically a technofeudalist state that just calls itself communist. If we don't pay attention, that shithole will be our future (and to make it clear, i say that is a bad thing) - also, not russia. to No.3: Well, we are currently not rewarded by capitalism either. A hollow dream of owning land and other shit is only desirable if you think that it is worth something, but it isn't. So instead of expecting value there where it is (capitalism), we should expect no value where there is nothingAnd towards the primitive life thing: something like that is not feasible. We need to be absolutely modern, because we have built our surroundings this way. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying we have to like everything and use it, but we need to figure the falsity of these surroundings out and then we can counteract.
>>30909086Very wrong. It is not "intellectuals vs. strong men", both are needed to organise this society
Communism and socialism is by definition cancer. Growth not attached to meaning. Growth without sacrifice. Only a pure evil person would espouse it as a good thing. Getting a commie to understand how dumb they are is next to impossible. Getting a commie to admit how evil they are is impossible
>>30909200>says it's evil>doesn't elaborate
>>30909200What would you say is the good thing or something good?
>>30909225Capitalism.
>>30909208Like I said impossible
>>30909248Proof?
>>30909248No, it is completely different. If you are an authentic communist, you know about your dumbness. The people who don't understand their stupidity are liberals and fascists.
>>30909264Explain the dumbness of authentic communism
>>30909248>>30909264>>30909287What is communism? Did you read the communist manifesto?
>>30909297You’re only tricking yourself not me. Pity
One word.>Holodomor.
>>30909044>a violent system will defend itself by violence, it's not gonna be toppled by love and peaceThat wasn't my pointI completely understand the need for revolutionThe thing is, why go through the trouble and possibly die trying to overthrow a king when the guy you're trying to install is a dictator that's pretty much treated the same as a king?>>30909044>it was a far better place for a regular citizen to liveEverything seems like a utopia when you compare it to unindustrialized feudal hellholes
>>30909502>The thing is, why go through the trouble and possibly die trying to overthrow a king when the guy you're trying to install is a dictator that's pretty much treated the same as a king?because the revolutionary leadership were similar to the kings they replaced only in that they were autocratic, which is a very narrow and simplistic viewthe system of government, selection of leaders, aims and objectives etc. were all very different from the old system - although you could argue they still weren't different enoughpower also wasn't consolidated to one man before Stalin in the mid 30s, and none of his successors had the power to control high politics alone
>>30908698Wrong as usual twigboy
>>30909297>the ramblings of a worthless rich neetI’ve been meaning to just to answer yes to this question but that’s all. commienism ain’t gonna work the 24th time in a row you’ve tried troon. You can save the inevitable bloodshed for something else more deserving
>>30907132good thread
>>30909185>both are needed.no, each man should be both.but large societies don't create balanced men, it creates specialists, so you have very smart but very cowardly men making decisions because that's all they can do, and very strong but very stupid men doing all the labour, and those smart but weak, cowardly men are ruled by women.I really hope you're an idealistic bushy tailed 20yo, ie still naive enough to think "real" communism is remotely feasable outside an ant nest.
>>30909502>everything seems like a utopia when you compare it to unindustrialized feudal hellholespreindustrial feudal peasants lived better lives than any modern man could ever dream of.
>>30909142kek why siberia anon?why not ancient spain, or greece?is it because a primitive lifestyle would be literal paradise as long as you're not in a freezing cold barren wasteland?
>>30910636with a 50% child mortality rate?
>>30907132>people not profitSo you'd rather your government slowly taking backroom deals and making shitloads of money to live in an absolute mansion while you find yourself trapped in a studio apartment unable to even pay rent working 80 hours per week?Maybe you should take a look at how people in China and Russia live (or Venezuela or Cuba for that matter) and tell me just how awesome communism is.>Uhh I'm akshully talking abut socialismSocialism is the first stage to communism.I'm NEVER going to defend whatever bullshit America has going on. Our government is equally FUCKED in other ways, but communism is NOT the solution. We've already tried that, many, many times. It leads to an Orwellian state. Try something different.
>>30910810>your government slowly taking backroom deals and making shitloads of money to live in an absolute mansion while you find yourself trapped in a studio apartment unable to even pay rent working 80 hours per weeksounds a lot like capitalism
>>30909156>deflection>deflection>what about capitalism?You're a communist nigger alright.Nobody wants your kike system, faggot, we all know it's just empty promises that will be dropped the moment communists get into power. Every. Single. Time.Then it's work, repeat their lies and die, forever.Also, stop posting your shit here, fag.
>>30910766if a child is too weak to survive infancy without medical intervention then it should die, anon, sorry that that's too uncomfortable for you.dysgenic genes shouldn't be allowed to breed, because then we end up with weaklings like you that want a dictator to force you and I to pretend we're equal.
>>30910815modern capitalism is dogshit as well commie.it's always one or the other with you isn't it.>I want a king!>I want a president!>I want a CEO!>I want an emperor!>I want a dictator!no good man wants to rule, and no valuable man wants to BE ruled.a man wants to protect what's his to protect and stand beside men he sees as equals in affairs where he alone isn't enough.that's it.anything more is weaklings wanting to be ruled and psychopaths wanting to rule, regardless of the system.
>>30910866nah no matter the system modern medicine is a godsend, smallpox plagued humanity for millenia and we eradicated it, it literally doesn't fucking exist anymore, we did that
>>30910875yeah through sanitation and hygiene.(((doctors))) want to claim credit for what washing your hands did.you really jist want to suck the cocks of men you see as superior don't you?commies are so cowardly and servile, you need a dictator or an "intellectual" just to keep you alive. you make me sick, and I'm ashamed we're allegedly the same species.
>>30910874>modern capitalism is dogshit as wellAt least we agree on something.
>>30910882you just want the left boot on your face instead of the right one.I'd prefer a footwear-free face.
Funny how a board infested with tranny threads is now getting marxism threads lmao
>>30909156China is by far the closest to ever achieving a Marxist-Leninist state. Not sure where you think they're going wrong, the "modern state" you're describing is literally just China.
>>30910886What's your solution then
>>30907420>"no u", but gayer:/
>>30907481There are plenty of straight, normal, non mentally ill kids out there that want the same thing. They don't whine about it n make it the world's problem...
>>30907665danke anon
>>30909241lmao
>>30910980why are they so fat?
>>30910874> rule and protectNo, they are necessary prerequisites for each other.To protect, you need to rule.
>>30911114no they fucking aren't you stupid fuckwit.>hey, don't touch that fire, it'll burn you>thanks dadis protection>slave, go die in my war>slave, pay your taxes>slave, redistribute your wealth (commie taxes)is "ruling"god I hate commies so fucking much
>>30910912I'm mature enough to know there isn't one.humans are either normies who desire a ruler, schizos who want to be left alone, or psychopaths who want to rule, and any system will be exploited by the psychopaths.
Cats and Communismhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUinCoLEw-U
>>30911149That's a liberal. She has to go to reeducation camp even before Trump supporters.
>>30907132>people, not profitIn a free market, whenever you trade with someone, you both come out better off (in terms of getting what each of you values) since for trade to happen, you each must value what the other is providing (money vs good, etc.) More than each of you values what they're respectively providing.An example would be the trade of a banana for 20 cents. The buyer must value the banana more than they value the 20 cents, and the seller must value the 20 cents more than they value the banana.The reason that more entrepreneurial people tend to be wealthier is that the factor that they provide is essentially time."Time preference is the idea that people value present ends above future ends. Since we must choose between various ends at any given time, we must have a preference to achieve the chosen end sooner rather than later. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have acted at all.""People with (relatively) high time preferences are more present oriented. Thus, they place extra value on consuming sooner. They prefer instant gratification and are, consequently, less inclined to save and invest.""Having a low time preference makes a person inclined to save and invest. Furthermore, savings and investment are what cause economic growth not just for the person in question but for society as a whole."https://mises.org/mises-wire/time-preference-and-success-there-any-linkIf you don't want to spend your life learning how to do literally everything, then you need others who've already put in the work.
>>30908863>Communism is not the movement of one Person, it is the movement of the masses"The masses" don't actually move. Don't reify people. Only individuals act. When you see people acting together, that's all that's happening. Individuals are just acting co-operatively, but they're all still individuals.>Communism is not about identityThe entire communist identity is being "part of the 99%" and "a member of the proletariat against the bourgeoisie." Stop lying.
>>30909156Bjørnskov (2016)"The peak-trough ratio is 10.3% for low EF as opposed to 3.4% for high EF. Both depth and recovery time are robustly associated with EF even after excluding the tails of EF score distribution. An increase in only 10 points of EF is associated with a decline of peak-trough ratio of 4% and a reduced recovery time of 10 months."Callais & Pavlik (2022)"1 SD in EF corresponds to 0.61 point reduction in unemployment rate, an increase in 1.36 jobs per 100 persons and 3.8% in income per capita."Eslamloueyan & Jafari (2019)"The regression results (Tables 2-5) show that the dummy variables of the 1997 and 2008 financial crises (denoted D97 and D2008) have negative coefficients whereas their interaction term with the institutional quality measures is positive for 1997 but weaker and not always significant for 2008. This indicates freedom reduces the adverse impact of crises on investment."Candela & Geloso (2021)"Results from panel regression show that one extra point in the 10-point scale HIEL increases GDP between 1.53 and 1.79 % points across models."Geloso & Bologna-Pavlik (2021)"In order to test for the competing role of democracy, the regression was rerun using death rates, HIEL, HIEL*death, Polity and Polity*death. The coefficient of HIEL*death rates was substantially larger than Polity*death.""Connors & Norton (2012) found that the negative relationship between government spending and economic growth holds within countries as well, and not just across countries, during the 1960-2010 period. Interestingly, the end of that period is marked by lower growth due to recession, yet they notice (see their Table 3) that “the countries with smaller governments had a much smaller reduction in growth rates”. Reducing public spending helps the recovery. This is likely because public spending creates misallocation of resources."https://menghu.substack.com/p/how-economic-freedom-mitigates-crisis?utm_source=publication-search
>>30910874>sandwiching CEO in-between statist leadersHow very dishonest.Also, capitalism is just the private ownership and free trade of the factors of production, which are land, labor, capital, and entrepreneurship.Without these factors being freely traded, it's impossible to rationally price the factors or the final good since we can't know how much they're demanded.https://grokipedia.com/page/Economic_calculation_problem
>>30911336>xe doesn't know how much political power CEOs havethey literally buy politicians you fucking mongoloid. they are as much a ruler as any "elected" official, monarch or autocrat.god you're a pathetic naive sheltered little pedantic pseudointellectual cretin
>>30911403Yeah, they gain all of that power from the state. I'm not particularly sure how this is a criticism of capitalism rather than the state.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3--k3uaRAAMAlso, what's with the extreme seethe? Kek.
>>30909297I dont really recommend it. Its not a great book. It completely omits the middle class, it offers no clear plan on how to structure a system and it generally makes very rigid, simple views on what motivates people. Its the stupid man's "tale of two cities" - just read that if you want a good story about societal justice.
>>30910881Doctors werent jewish before the 1950s which was why we had actual improvements like hygiene and sanitation. Also shout out to us keeping jewish hate going. Fascists and communists have that shit on lock down. Good on you boys. Hang em high.
>>30907132There’s already a couple tranny threads up rn.
>>30910907>China is by far the closest to ever achieving a Marxist-Leninist state.Well, communism (any type of socialism) is impossible, but China is quite capitalistic."The combination of numbers 60/70/80/90 are frequently used to describe the private sector's contribution to the Chinese economy: they contribute 60% of China’s GDP, and are responsible for 70% of innovation, 80% of urban employment and provide 90% of new jobs. Private wealth is also responsible for 70% of investment and 90% of exports."https://www.weforum.org/stories/2019/05/why-chinas-state-owned-companies-still-have-a-key-role-to-play/
>>30911613>Doctors werent jewish before the 1950sKek
kek commies itt proving that they depend entirely on wordsalad to make their dogshit system sound remotely desirable
>>30911622>try the government style that 2 of the largest countries on earth tried>please ignore that they both switched back to free market privatization. Why dont we just skip the first part and go back to free market privatization?
>>30912017It wasnt even legal to publically practice judaism until 1710-1850... varies by country. Yes ezekiel, you were secret doctors or whatever and that's why foreskins were promised to you 3000 years ago. We all know. Please get in the shower now.
wrong board attention whore
>>30907132This is my favorite I think. Sounds like an improved version of The Secret Deployment.Although China, USSR and NK have some bangers aswell likehttps://youtu.be/DKsj5mCR7qs
>>30911622>China isnt socialist because they have private propertyYou didn't read the book, I can tell. Socialism is defined by workers owning the companies.I wouldn't call China socialist either but using private property as an argument against it is just retarded. To me its more of a transitional country thats still capitalist but is on their way to become socialist (if everything works out).The theory behind it is that>capitalism bad because 2 classes (capitalists/workers) have different goals. e.g. one wants to increase workers rights and the other wants to decrease it to gain more profit>Which means in a democracy people can just bribe the government to achieve either of that. However only capitalists have the money to bribe politicians -> capitalists control the governmentThats one big reason why we need socialism. In Chinas case they took care of that by having a government that still allows capitalists to exist but doesnt allow them to control the politics. The government still takes care of the workers.Thats the biggest difference between China and a capitalist state.
>>30907132Cum together, cumrags!
>>30912782>Socialism is defined by workers owning the companies.Socialists define socialism as the public ownership of the means of production.Collective ownership is, of course, impossible since it implies the use of scarce means to contradictory ends.Capitalism is the private ownership and free trade of the factors (means) of production.>To me its more of a transitional country>still capitalistIf you yourself are defining it as capitalist, then how can you say it's ridiculous to call China capitalist?China, by the way, isn't a capitalist state since no state can be. Of course, public (state) private ownership is an oxymoron.It's also not communist despite not being very economically free since communism is literally impossible (the ECP and, to a lesser extent, the knowledge problem demonstrate this). Without factors being freely and privately traded, you can't have factor prices, so you don't know what factors to use or how much of each factor to use when producing a good. This leads to costs being unnecessary high (economic inefficiency).Rights aren't positive. What you're describing is state meddling (lobbying).>the government is bad. Therefore, we need bigger government!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3--k3uaRAAMThere can still be corruption within the government. It's just that the government isn't very Darwinian (unlike the free market), so you can have much greater inefficiency, and bad actors will usually remain.Also, "classes" don't really exist in an absolute sense (other than productive and non-productive, but even this can vary over time) since there are individuals who trade all of the factors (e.g., a land-owner can purchase and combine capital with labor to produce a good).
>>30907206Tranny threads are abundant.
>>30910574This is the present now fagot
>>3091374369
>>30907132go back pol/billy
>>30910596They killed a great king all for the love of the BBC lol
>>30911114Certainly failed English class, didn't you?They're mutually exclusive.I can protect my neighbor by letting him know some people are creeping outside of his house without ruling him. Just because you're incapable of helping someone else without believing they owe you some kind of favor or service doesn't mean the rest of us are morally bankrupt.
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To all the commies itt, answer me 3 questions;>what is your gender identity>describe your level of physical fitness. eg what is the heaviest you can lift, how far you could run non stop. possibly compare your physique to an example like a character in a movie or something>what is your most impressive talent or skill
>Communism thread>Nigdick gets postedHmm... perhaps that article of Stalin's love for black men was true. And /his/ already showed me most neo-commies are from india.
>>30911474They don't gain power from the state in this case. Money is power and they use this power to do whatever the fuck they want. State or no state.
>>30907132>politicians should he afraid of the people>instead, we get traitorous invertebrates who are in a rush to sell out the country and its citizens
>>30907483lmaooo roasted
>>30910590braindead fag lol
>>30908698Cats are far right puritans and individualists. Dogs are communists.
>>30907132OP is retarded
>>30907132There's some good commie bands but i haven't seen any of them iTT. That one makes me cringe especially when western leftists who can't do anything but fuck things up still sings it in the 21st century.t. anti communist
>>30914280>State or no state.The reason why they lobby is that they know it's better for them to abuse the state rather than actually compete in a free market.
