It's worth it. No regrets. I like what I like.

>>31286921

Protect yourself from risks and have fun. Life is short.

Bisexual here. I've only dated women, had sex with some men. Body count is probably 20 women and 4 men. Both scratch different itches. Just don't think about it and enjoy it.

Its not fucking worth it bro. Ass isnt nearly as good as pussy and theres nothing you can do to get rid of the smell of shit even if the guy is an anorexic twink who barely eats to avoid digesting anything into fecal waste and douches thoroughly beforehand. Guys also smell and feel completely different to women and not in a good way. Achieving prostate orgasms are harder than gays let on and most of them dont use enough or the right lube and go way too rough or use gay sex as an excuse to abuse whoever theyre fucking using bdsm as a front. Theyll pressure you into doing shit you dont want and are notorious for the modt fucked up polycule dynamics. You probably also have a gay reflex and wont be able to stop it.
Many gays take copious amounts of drugs to disassociate from the pain and degradation. Most gays dont give a shit about stds and spread them like wildfire.
Also if gays are pathological manipulators where if youre in the closet or are trying out fucking men they will blackmail you to reveal your encounters if you go against what they want. You will almost certainly regret the experience and the guy you were with has a very high chance of deliberately fucking your whole life up. Porn might make you think fucking guys and being bi might be fun but its a soul sucking nightmare full of the most pure mental illness and schizo behaviour you could ever imagine. Avoid that shit like the plague.

Not sure if you know but being bi is kinda gay if you think about it.

>>31287019

>> Implying women are somehow not as bad in different ways.

>>31287019
>nothing you can do to get rid of the smell of shit
>muh stds
you havent been fucking the right guys if they cant douche right. if youre considering gay stuff, just use protections or get on prep. and just avoid grindr/hook up apps if you want to avoid high body counts. the risk of any sexual diseases is always there regardless of male to male or male to female, its just higher with m4m so be wary of that is all

>>31287050
>just use protections or get on prep
Gay guys look at you like a freak if you want to use a condom. Also
>prep
Extreme levels of kek. Imagine needing to take imunization drugs to avoid AIDS. Holy fuck dude lol.

>>31287032
Absolute pure cope and deflection. A true representation of the fag mindset.

The beat option is to find a bi-curious married man. They are most likely STD free and they won't cause you any problems because they have a lot to lose.

In this case, go ahead, the worst thing that can happen is that you don't like it and never want to do it again. Doesn't mean you have to turn 100% gay.

I like both banging girls and sucking d and getting getting plowed by a big dicked guy, wish I hadn’t waited until nearly 30 to finally let a guy fuck me, I just like sex I suppose, but with a guy, I like it on the bottom

>>31286921
bi is only worth it if you are asian and seduce a BWC haver into worshipping him, purest form of love instead of just lust and no disease

>>31286921
Worth what? Afraid some loser on 4chan is gonna call you a faggot? Who cares? If I wasn't too autistic to make friends I'd be sucking cock all the time

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>>31286921
>>31286952
>>31286929
Fag>>31287207

>>31286921
Do you want STDs? Because gay sex is how you get STDs. Then you spread that shit to women.

>>31286921
So I think if you really consider it, there's 1 you prefer more. And that 1 is the you you are. And, that is the one you should stick with. You're basically talking about having multiple partner simultaneously. No one that really actually likes you is going to like that. So, pick one and stick to it. If you must, try it once I suppose. The thing is though, sometimes a rando gay experience can have devastating long term consequences.

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>>31287220
Well it looks fun but maybe not worth the std risk and making 90% of women hate me.

In my experience,guys have asked to go raw, but are cool about using a condom,which I’ve always used with every dude I’ve fucked,now I want to find a dick to ride.been a while

>>31287295
You have std risks with women too, plus women are gonna hate you either way

>>31287223
im gay for those tits awoooooooooooogaa

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>be me
>39 years old
>divorced and haven't gotten laid in years
>download grindr
>see 22 year old twink with long hair and kinda girly
>message him and exchange pics
>he doesn't drive so I go pick him up
>he's hotter irl and has a girly af voice
>we drive over to my place
>as soon as we get inside we start making out and fuck
>unironically tells me it's the most amazing sex he's ever had
>cuddle afterwards and fall asleep in bed
>next day drive him back to his apartment
>we start making out some more before he gets out of my car
>check app later that day
>I got blocked

>>31287105
>be gay
>be homewrecker
Holy lmfao. Fags really are complete sociopaths.

It's gay but I'd be lying if I said taking dick from someone you're comfortable with isn't nice. Met this gay college guy my age on sniffies, we hit it off and soon enough we were fucking at his place at least a couple times a week. What's interesting is that this guy had a bunch of roommates who were all women that had no problem with him occasionally having guys over, so the whole time his roommates could probably hear us plapping in the other room when they were nearby. We've been fucking on and off for about a couple years now which is pretty strange because usually how it goes is that you have sex with the same guy maybe a couple times if you're lucky and then that's it.

>>31287434
The cruel evil bottom does not care for the sensitive bear

>>31286921
This >>31287019
Notice how the replies are terrible copes, because there's nothing to answer this

depends what you're into desu

if you're a top there's really not much point, just fuck girls

if you're a switch then yeah, you've got the feed both beasts

if you're a bottom just admit you're gay and get it over with

Porn makes you forget it, but the anus is literally made for feces
If you think you can "clean" it you're insane. Clinically insane.
If you want to prove me wrong make a webm immersing your toothpaste into dogshit, and then clean it using the methods you use to 'clean' your ass. Then brush your teeth with it.
Let's see your commitment to the bit

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>>31288165
>if you're a top there's really not much point, just fuck girls
Their standards are too high

>>31286921
>should
Do you lust for the prostate full body orgasm and want to have uncontrollable orgasms that make your eyes roll into the back of your skull or do you wanna spurt a few times in your fist

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>>31288165
>if you're a bottom just admit you're gay and get it over with
A lot of bi guys just want to bottom for men while having a normal attraction to women. You can enjoy both extremes.

>>31288167
Ur retarded

>>31288167
why toothpaste

>>31288212
That doesn't happen
It's all larp, man's g point is near the head, connected to the foreskin
The minuscule amount of pleasure you get from messing with your butt comes from the natural response to feces (meant to make it so you don't hold it in), as well as literal traumatic damage inflicted into the prostate

>>31288228
You're literally eating feces
>>31288233
Sorry, I meant toothbrush, not the paste kek
The point stands though. Whether you do it, and reveal yourself as a massive freak for everyone, or you have to admit that if that makes you feel gross even in the least all the rationalizations fags make about cleanliness are cope.
It's a gross practice, akin to scat. It's true for straights too, which is why before porn no straight person did anal ever (don't come up with historical just so stories you can't prove) and it was exclusively a fag thing.

>>31288251
im not brushing my teeth with an anus though

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>>31288167
its 2026, eating ass and poop is the norm now.

>>31287105
The would be my ideal situation, a married guy who would just let me suck him off whenever and that's it.

>>31288305
And?
>>31288315
Ugh, why do you even have that saved man

>>31288167
I agree with this though. I don't wanna do anything with mine or another guy's ass, I just wanna suck cock.

>>31288325
Thank you

>>31288325
Suck girlcock instead.

Really depends on how much you like cock and what kind of guy you get with. Everyone is an individual with their own quirks, personalities, problems, and baggage. If you wanna get drunk and mess around with your homeboy, totally worth it, you're already great friends and know your compatibility and ins and outs. If you want a poly relationship, you better make sure your woman isn't a fucking narcissist cunt or she's basically just gonna steal your man and kick you to the curb. If you join a couple, you better make sure that you are cool with both of them and don't treat one any better or differently than the other because the jealousy gets read bad real fast, and being stuck in the middle is just twice the hurt when shit doesn't work out. If you're single and just fucking around, go ham and use protection. Know your boundaries and protect them, because there's a shitload of psychopaths out there, especially gay gays and trans. Not all of them, but a fucking LOT of them. If you're into swinging, sweet, go for it, but just like being single, protect yourself. Pussy and a woman's touch are naturally pleasing to men who don't have a fuckload of psychological problems, but in modern day, companionship with one is one fucking mind game after the next, whereas being with a dude is just being with a dude. Connections with other men are fraternally natural and make some of the longest lasting and gratifying bonds you can ever hope for in life and usually pretty simple and straightforward, very little fuckery involved. There's something special about sucking off a guy and feeling a grown man vulnerable in your hands, blasting his load to your stimulation; cumming together while frotting is a phenomenal experience with a huge psychological connection payoff, as well, while rare, a prostate orgasm with a hot cock in your ass is like no other sexual pleasure a woman can ever provide.

Tl;Dr
Do whatever you want, just make sure you protect yourself from diseases and mind games.

>>31287050
>or get on prep
Enjoy the irreversible liver damage just so you can pretend you live in the 1970s when MAP stood for multiple anonymous partners

>>31286921
>I have fucking failed at understanding women so dudes are now a choice right
Maybe you weren't meant to have sex with other people because you're a retard

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>>31286921
I repressed my bi side for years in favor of chasing women. After a bunch of miserable relationships, mind games, shit tests, and getting cheated on, I finally gave in and started fooling around with a buddy of mine who was also bicurious.

...it was so much fucking easier. Sex is no longer a performance where I feel like I have to do all the work and am being judged, instead it's a fully joint thing we're both doing to have fun and make each other feel good. And outside of the sex, it's just so much more chill, we share most of interests and don't have to play all these stupid gender role games.

idk, maybe I just got unlucky with women, or really lucky with this dude. But what started as an "experiment" quickly escalated to a regular fuckbuddy thing and then further. Now we've been dating for several years and are thinking about coming out to our families and even talking about maybe getting hitched. At this point, even if this unexpectedly falls apart, I don't see myself ever going back to chicks.

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>>31286921
idk anon. I've been jerking it to wtmywtsc threads for like 10 years but never done anything witha guy, whenever my gf goes on her peroid though I always jerk off to bi-type porn. My problem is I can't find a way to find men attractive, I just enjoy jerking off to cocks.

>>31287019
*gag reflex not gay reflex. Basically you will probably vomit if you try to suck dick because the other guy will want to shove his dick all the way down your throat to cum and wont care if you suffocate or throw up all over him.

>>31288177
Men and women have fucked for literal millennia and are still fucking to this day while you say their standards are too high then give up to fuck men. Fucking skill issue retard. Settle for having worse sex with dogshit standard fags you fucking faggot.

>>31288390
>get drunk and mess around with your homeboy, totally worth it, you're already great friends
Gays fetishize turning their straight friends gay for humiliation. It irreversibly fucks up the friendship. Completely catastrophic.
>poly relationship, you better make sure your woman isn't a fucking narcissist cunt or she's basically just gonna steal your man
Poly relationships never work unless youre brown and need to wifebeat them all like a violent savage. Threesomes mean the relationship is over. Your girl will get the ick and realize youre just a fag who will leave her. She will dump you before you run off with the other dude. The only outcomes are you coping by going full faggot or being alone. Shit swallowers ruin every relationship in sight.
>you join a couple, you better make sure that you are cool with both of them and don't treat one any better or differently than the other because the jealousy gets read bad
Jealousy always happens and polycules never last. Theyll break up and neither will stay with you.
>swinging
LMFAO. Enjoy all those 50yo broken failure men. Worst of the worst.
>companionship with one is one fucking mind game after the next, whereas being with a dude is just being with a dude
Copius maximus. Gays arent just gaming bros who suck your dick. Theyre rejects with no personality other than porn who deny catching feels by doing the most twisted shit at the most insignificant perceived slight far worse than women. Afraid how badly a girl might fuck up your life? You should be terrified what a man can do.
>something special about sucking off a guy
>feeling a grown man vulnerable in your hands,
>frotting is a phenomenal experience with a huge psychological connection payoff
>a prostate orgasm with a hot cock in your ass is like no other sexual pleasure a woman can ever provide
Which will never be as good as rawdogging a girl you like and who loves you back. Creampieing women has turned gay men straight again. Its just natural biology lol.

>>31288586
Gays were protesting for abolishing age of consent laws in the 70s. MAP may as well have still stood for minor attracted person.

>>31288742
>I repressed my bi side for years
Code for have been porn addicted for years. No surprise your gfs had a miserable time during sex and found you intimately distant or having fucked up sexual expectations.

its pretty great being bi imo. just get on PrEP and its safe and fun

>>31289005
Gays are stinky and need extensive cleaning and drugs to fuck. Meanwhile straight chads are usually std free and can fuck girls only with a condom and dont even need that all the time. Fags stay losing.

>>31287019
Imagine this is a highschool girl giving younger girls advice about fucking boys.

This is all shit you take care of with practice. If it's your first time doing something your gonna suck at it. Just practice and learn from mistakes.

Also note: if you just want anal, you can find a girl that pegs, just make sure you start with that. Or a girl that's cool with you having a fuck machine.

If you're truly bi, and want a man, (musk, hair, etc) not all men are bucking broncos trying to destroy your hole. There are plenty of middle ground guys put there.

If you just want a big muscular guy to dominate you, you might consider staying single and slowly entering the gay dating pool.

Sad to say but some women really don't find men that bottom attractive.

Just be honest with yourself and your partners, fag.

>>31286921
Sex in general isn't worth it. I'm in a gay relationship and we only cuddle and talk, and it's great.
If you're both into the same thing and it's convenient enough, sure, have sex. But organizing your life around it, and only dating people you want to have sex with, that is just a waste.

>>31288822
Im the same. I don't find men attractive whatsoever but I do like big dicks. Average or below does nothing but when I see these big nice porn star dicks I get a crazy urge to suck dick. I have suck dick twice. Both were big nice dicks and both guys had the same feelings I do about it. Which is they're just there to get there dick sucked and it's literally all I want to do. Dont care about anything else. No talking or looking just watch porn or close your eyes. I have to be honest though I really like sucking dick but it has to be like a perfect situation for me to feel comfortable doing it. It's not all the time but when the urge starts it gets worse and worse until it's all I think about and jack too. I'm there now but can't find a dick I like and when I do they are to weird for me and makes me uncomfortable. For me it's not that I'm attracted to the guy for me it's all about the dick. Nothing else but sucking dick. I don't know if that makes me bi or what but who cares. I just loved playing and sucking off big dicks every now and then. The last one I sucked off I lucked out. Was out of town for friends wedding made a grinder account within like 15 minutes got a message from guy who wanted everything anonymous he had gf that was a travel nurse and he just wants head that is all and needed to be in a dark room. Told him I was in hotel and will never see each other again and that's how I want it too. He sent pic was a fucking pornstar dick I didn't believe him at first. Sent another with time stamp told him room number told him to hurry up. When I realized it was real I got crazy horny. Was pre cumming felt light headed. He got there already had porn video ready he put phone on tv stand and pulled it out. Wasn't lying at all I got in knees and it's right in my face. I said "ya you weren't lying it's big" he laughed and said I told you I wasn't. I think he was at least 8 1/2 maybe 9. Trimmed and all. God I loved it.

>>31286921
I'm kind of the opposite. I don't date women, and I don't really like pussy, but women can be hot. I usually call myself gay, but I identified as bi for years.

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>>31288742
Gay sex looks fun but being locked in a relationship with a man seems stale. Part of the appeal of women is enjoying body parts and femininity that you don't possess. Being next to a woman seems almost magical, and I think that's the key aspect that men lack to me.

>>31289198
>enjoying body parts and femininity that you don't possess
You sound trans/agp.

>>31289224
Maybe lol. But the point is attraction to the opposite sex is typically based on traits we don't have. Hard men want soft women, soft women want hard men, or something like that.

>>31289111
2000 character saying he was turned into a fag by porn but thinks he isnt gay. Its just embarrassing at this point, Anon.

>>31288742
I'm all for you mate. Good on you. If if makes you happy, go for it.

>>31288742
I'm straight, but I don't care whatever anyone else is. If it works for you, it's all good.

>>31286921
Love how this darling little twink kisses that huge monster. Sweet.

>>31286921

>>31287137
I feel im the exact same way. I just havent swallowed my pride and taken a dick yet.

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>>31286921
Odd to find this thread. I wonder if they put something in the water because I've been thinking the same thing lately. I'm small, at 5'6" and 125lbs. I've had sex with women, but lately I haven't been getting any interest. Like zero. For the last year or so. A little while ago I set my profile on one of my apps to " bisexual" I thought at the time as a joke. Immediately got hit up by many men. Was too afraid to do anything with them, and one guy in particular has been trying to fuck me for months and I've ran out of excuses and just haven't opened the app in a while because I don't know what to tell this guy. This morning I laid in bed with a raging hard on thinking about a big man laying on my back, fucking my ass and grunting in my ear. I think I caught the gay, and I don't even care. My big issue right now is my doctor is from Iran and I'm afraid to tell him I want to get on prep.

>>31289637
Me again, I didn't even set my profile to bisexual, I set it to "bi-curious" and still got hit up by loads of persistent men. I'm sorry, but I have to say I love being pursued. I love the effort. I hate having to do all the work. It's very nice to be on the other side. And soon, I'm going to let some giant fucking dude plow my ass because I'm just over it. As many have said in this thread, life is too short. I'm over in /analgen/ every day talking about all the things I put up my butt with other guys, and I just think I must be pretty damn gay.

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>>31288998
"Porn addiction" isn't real. It's just a cope that repressed guys use to try to convince themselves that they're not "really" bi/gay, despite fantasizing and jerking off to gay content.

>>31289646
This. I watch far less porn now than I ever did and I'm way more bi-curious than I've ever been.

>>31289646
"Porn addiction" is real but unrelated.

>>31287019
>>31288912
The average gay man doesn't even do anal you fucking loser. Imagine actually sitting there and making all that shit up, get a job my god
As for OP >>31286921 what the fuck do you mean it's being bisexual worth it? If you like boys go fuck one, if you don't then don't do that. Do you also ask people if you'll like a meal you saw? Retards

>>31287019
I wonder if the giant wall of text schizoposter might be projecting, hmmmmmmmm

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>>31289676
Any time there's a gay thread on this board you see this guy come around obsessing posting how "unhealthy" and dirty anal sex is, in this breathless obsessive tone that he thinks more about anal than the average gay man does. Makes it sound like he's trying really hard to convince himself that it's a bad idea more than anyone else lol. I'm guessing that like most /pol/fags who show up in gay threads, he's making such posts to assuage his guilt due to post-cum regret after he just finished rubbing one out to the thread.

>>31289701
Stuck in 2010 with those Nigerians who thought rimming was about eating shit, just doesn't understand what he's looking at at all.
I have fisted a guy up to my forearm and it's never smelled like shit or ass, but sometimes it does smell like wet dog. How come they never know about that?

Has been bi my whole life, but only acted on the "homo" part as a teen.
Never did anal, can't even masturbate to it, but blowjobs and cum-in-mouth was awesome, still masturbate to it furiously.
Also i'm going to be controversial and state that big dicks are terrible to suck, you can't really handle them properly and it ain't as fun struggling with them as you'd think.

Gay people are an abomination. The biggest, slesziest disgusting whore doesn't hold a candle to a gay man. Don't get me started on older gay/bi men. Absolutely abhorrent.

>>31287019
There’s probably a better chance for a positive experience in a less repressive cultural setting.

>>31287434
If they thought it best just accept that there’s probably a good reason right now.

>>31286952
Lando Norris after winning the Championship

>>31289773
Extreme generalized judgments of people are political tropes, not useful guides to personal relationships.

>>31289663
Porn interest is natural, like food interest.

>>31288225
Yeah, it's weird I only wanna be fucked by dick if I'm tied up, blindfolded, ball gagged, and unaware of when it's real cock vs strap-on or fuck machine

While stoned af on weed

>>31289863
Anons... Is this weird of me to think or normal?

H7QAJDKNT

>>31289831
Isn't it your "culture"? Casual hookups?

>>31289868
what is this

>>31289878
NTA but that's currently my problem. I am like trying to go have a drink and talk, or see a movie or something and all these guys just want a late night rendezvous for God only knows what.

>>31289894
Teleguard

>>31289863
Are you me?

>>31288315

More! More! More!

>>31289996
No but we should chat and compare notes

>>31289086
Lesbian or man over 40?

>>31290076
Do you also tie yourself up? I have an XL egg plug from square peg. I'll put that in, and then put TENS electrodes on my legs or butt, then I put my ankle, and wrist straps on, and my gag in, and I'll almost put my blindfold on all the way, so I can use my shoulder to put it all the way on. But the tricky part is my stupid TENS doesn't have a delay timer, so when I start it, I have to move very quickly or I won't be able to stand on this old dog bowl that I have upside down, hook my wrists as high up as I can from a hook in the ceiling, and then I kick the dog bowl away so I'm forced to stand on my tippy toes, like full on tippy toes. Then when the TENS really gets going I lose control over the muscles in my legs, and then I hang from my wrists... I got new leather straps recently and they're stiffer than they seemed, so now I have very obvious
>I was strapped up by my wrists
Bruises, and I have to wear long sleeves. The whole thing would be so much better with another person there, and I do not care what sex they are. I'm ready. You do anything like that?

>>31287019
Correct beyond dispute

>>31287434
He knew that there's something deeply wrong about being a fag and the crippling shame forced reality to surface

>>31287019
Are you the very straight anon who's always complaining about the blowjob link in the op, over in /anal/? If so, this would explain a lot about why you don't like talking about blowjobs.

>>31290103
Man in mid 30s, but I've felt this way since I was 23.

>>31287019
What about anal sex with a low bodyfat muscular woman on testosterone

If there’s a guy you love then you should date him. Don’t sleep around with randoms.

>>31287223
i love zuribellarose

I enjoy sucking cock. Specifically really big cock. However, I would never let someone fuck me.

Apart from the cock sucking I exclusively fuck with women. Pussy feels great and I like how a woman's mouth feels on my cock.

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>>31290367
Yeah I think that's why I can't bring myself to hook up with guys, I don't really "love" men the way I do girls. This would be fine for most bi guys who are open to hooking up for pointless sex, but I'm not like that.

I've only seen 1 or 2 guys who were so cute I'd probably go full gay for them, but even then I think I'd want to go back to women at some point.

I jerk it to guys since it feels more comfortable emotionally but it's really clear cut from real life. I only notice women in my everyday life and men don't really seem to do anything for me no matter how much I tried. I really liked >>31288742 and >>31289646 a lot and it's what I mostly think about when I think about it. Obviously very idealized. Hetero stuff just doesn't have that same energy.

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>>31289028
>Gays are stinky and need extensive cleaning and drugs to fuck.
I keep getting mixed info on the poop thing. Some gays say its always a factor, some say never.

>>31290578
It's literally all in preparation. My eating habits revolve around anal sex. And if I know I'm really going to be getting it good, I'll fast completely for days. Most people do not have the same level of commitment as me. If you've fucked women in the ass you'll know if can be a factor no matter what the sex of the person is. It's an asshole after all. My motivation is not wanting to suffer the embarrassment of grossing someone out of making a mess. And being empty makes sex better. I can fuck on a full belly but I don't enjoy it.

>>31289637
>trying to find relationships on apps
Theres your problem, Anon. Gays are lazy and aggressively nag anyone who engages with them for sex to wear them down. Pick up a real hobby and youll find women.
>>31289645
>Me again, I didn't even set my profile to bisexual, I set it to "bi-curious" and still got hit up by loads of persistent men.
You are a gigaretard. Gay men specifically popularized that label to find marks. What you did was tell the world youre so desperate for sex that women are repelled by your desperation, that youre willing to compromize yourself to a gay man and gullible enough to think the guy who fucks you wont take advantage of you. Truly pathetic.
>I hate having to do all the work.
Women quickly figured out you wouldnt put any effort into the relationship and were just an unfun slob and stayed the fuck away. Nobody wants to be with someone whos given up unless theyre gay and want to exploit you.
>I'm over in /analgen/ every day talking about all the things I put up my butt with other guys, and I just think I must be pretty damn gay.
Porn addiction takes another. If you stopped jerking off to degenerate shit youd be less of a fag.

>>31289646
Plenty of straights are addicted to porn too retard. People who are addicted to porn usually fall in a pipeline to gay, tranny, furry, cuck, scat or pedo. Stop watching porn, get a real relationship and then see what you find attractive.

>>31289701
Fags literally only ever have one piss weak response to criticism and its 'no u'. Cope harder nigger.

>>31289715
Wasnt there a story not long ago about a gay politician eating shit? The thing that never happens happened again!

GAYS REPRODUCE BY MOLESTING CHILDREN

>>31286921
I’m a bisexual by definition, but I don’t consider myself it. Giving head sucks and I don’t care for it. Sperm is gross. I don’t bottom. I don’t like masculinity or body hair. And if you smell like a man it’s just not gonna happen.

I like twinks. Fem boys. Trans mtf. (Will not touch a ftm. Couldn’t be more not my type). I like men because I can fuck them hard and don’t want to worry about hurting them.

I suppose if I was a king and had access to just all the best pussy in the world, I wouldn’t mess with dudes. But in a pinch when you just want someone to overpower and really fuck, dudes scratch that itch. Also there’s just sooo much less bullshit with dudes. And they’re always dtf. Oh and they generally give better head.

>>31289797
Like fucking where retard? Coastal us cities and fucking la are about as fag accomodating as you can get. If those places are so culturally repressed to have pioneered the degenerate gay experience then where the fuck would you even remotely hope to find somewhere anyone would have a positive experience????

>>31289852
Porn didnt exist in the quantity and concentration in history as it does now. Theres nothing natural about porn.

>>31290362
Anal sex is still putting your dick up the poop hole which doesnt lube itself, smells and doesnt feel as good. Women dont need to take test even if they lift.

>>31290650
>My eating habits revolve around anal sex.
You literally never have to worry about this if youre straight and dont do anal. Its like God designed humanity that way...

>>31290786
But I want anal!!

>>31290794
Why are you replying to my (you)s?

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>>31288822
you are into trans girls. its the best of worlds, anon.

woman with a cock.

just make then cum, be slave for feminine cum.

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try suck a cock with you and your gf blinfolded.

I definitely regret coming out to my friends, just makes it impossible to get anything going with a girl. Most women are instantly turned off by it, and it's completely unrealistic to ask people to keep it a secret atp.
Best sex I've had though, both as top and bottom, but even then it eventually got old and now I kinda just want a gf

Look, as long as you're single have fun without any guilt, who gives a shit, just be careful with what you do and don't be too horny, always be safe.
If you get into a serious relationship and you realize being horny isn't as important as other things in life then priorities need to change, you can talk to your partner about it but it's most likely not going to go anywhere. If you're single go and do whatever you want.

>>31289852
Just like processed food is an unnatural and unhealthy source of energy, porn is an artificial form of erotic content. Our ancestors did not live with continuous displays of intimate parts in our pockets

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>>31290815
>I definitely regret coming out to my friends, just makes it impossible to get anything going with a girl.
Yeah that's why you really have to weigh your options. If you like men enough to want to date them then maybe, but if you ever want to have a normal relationship with a woman you're just broadcasting the biggest ick to them by being bisexual. Women despise nothing more than a bisexual man, even pedos rank higher.

>>31287019
lol at this loser. every chick i have fucked in the past 15 years has been a 3-holer. if you think fucking a chick in the ass is somehow cleaner or safer than fucking a dude in the ass, then you're just plain retarded.

>>31288822
>My problem is I can't find a way to find men attractive, I just enjoy jerking off to cocks.
I am the same way, but I (thankfully) finally tried out sucking a real cock about 10 years ago. It turns out that I do not care at all what the guy looks like, or even how big his dick is. I just love that moment when he knocks on the door and I know that I'm going to have a stranger's cock in my mouth. I've done it about 5 times now (the itch gets big enough once every 2 years or so, i guess) and I have never regretted it. I just wish I had started sooner.

>>31291205
Appearance really does matter a lot less when they're in the room with you

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>>31290815
No matter how progressive a woman claims to be, they want nothing to do sexually or romantically with a guy who's fooled around with other guys. Even if you're a strict top who's never sucked dick or had anything up your ass it's still a hard no. That shit gives them the ick. Like the other anon said, women would unironically rather give diddlers a chance over bisexual men.

>>31291211
>>31290815
Over half of bisexuals are with an opposite sex partner, I don't know why you're even still posting in this thread at this point

>>31291220
>Over half of bisexuals are with an opposite sex partner, I don't know why you're even still posting in this thread at this point

bc the woman are bi tho. but most of straight woman doest wants a bi guy.

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>>31291220
>Over half of bisexuals are with an opposite sex partner
I doubt the woman even knows in most cases.

>>31286921
The majority of gay and bi men carry some kind of disease
I'm going to stick to jerking off to dudes instead of risking whatever new bug these faggots are carrying

>>31291424
Normie women might not want bi guys, just like normie men don't want bi girls, but who cares about them? They don't want anybody who is even slightly out of the ordinary, and then despair why their own sex lives are so boring.

>>31291165
Youre fucking retarded if you think this post supports anal with women but not men. Anal is the biggest psyop and meme and sucks for both men and women.

>>31287019
So many fags on this board, must explain all the gore and blacked threads

>>31286921
Realistically, if you openly present yourself as bi, you will unironically have better odds to crack a pussy, because most women are literal retard sheep who have been brainwashed to believe that the LGBBQTTRPGs are inherently just have more social value than a real man who will protect, provide, and love them. You can literally be just a homeless loser, and tell a woman that you are a bisexual, neuro-divergant,1/4 latinx on your uncles side, and a guarantee you will find a single mother who will let you live with her rent free, as long as you are not a hideous fatty uggo

>>31288742
>dating for several years
do your assholes still work?
honest question.

I am afraid of sodomizing any woman I see as a future wife

>>31291993
women warp reality more. Even if they are social justice faggots, they won't want to fuck him because "ew gay".

and who could blame them

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>>31291993
Its high risk low reward though. You're just gonna appeal to a small subset of women they would think its hot, and even then they probably won't see you as a proper long term mate. Its like telling women you're a virgin to attract virgin hunters.

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>>31291993
This couldnt be more wrong unless you live in a large shithole city. Half of all white women in the us vote conservative. College educated women get brainwashed and that brainwashing has a similar effect on college educated men. Find a white woman outside of shitlib populations and youll end up with one whos worth a damn.

>>31291966
haha you are the ultimate pussy. everyone eats ass these days. if you've never eaten out a woman's ass and never had a woman eat out your own ass then you're missing out on one of the best feelings in the world, loser. do you even eat pussy? or is that too gross for you, too?

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>>31286921
Stupid question.

You either are bisexual or you aren't. I'm bisexual and I need cock frequently, otherwise I become very uncomfy. I've accepted that.

>>31290813
My gf and I suck cocks while fucking all the time. Started with us joking around about threesomes, then she brought up the idea. Tried it first on a dildo and it was fun, but we knew the real thing would be better. Now about once a month we go out to bars and find a guy to blow together.

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>>31291993
Delulu. Women that you can build a family with have ZERO interest in men who fuck other men. No how progressive they claim to be, it’s a physiological response they cannot control. It’s like being short to them, a sign that you are bitchmade. They’ll deny it because they don’t want to feel that way but they’ll discover that they can’t help it and wreck the relationship. Word to the fucking wise.

Two types of women won’t care. Ultra high openness women with low disgust response, think hippie theater kid slut with drug problems who are the life of the party. And sociopathic girlboss control freaks, think Kristi Noem and her bimbo hubby. No one of sound mind wants to end up with these women so if you are gonna fuck guys or trannies for fun and profit, don’t tell anyone!

>>31286921
You like whatever it is you like. The foundation of this choice is what bisexual means to you and then how important that is for you.

Ideally, you find a partner willing to at least entertain your reveal

>>31288912
I disagree on the gag reflex. I've had a couple buddies in my life that I've fooled around with. I've managed it once or twice without issue (that's all I really tried, though). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Women are better, though. LOL each does scratch a different itch, but your long-term goals need to be considered over short-term fun (that could hamper your long term goals).

Don't confuse bisexuality with being porn-brained. If you're just horny, nut and get it over with. Don't do some shit in real life with another person that you'll end up regretting and falling into a pit of despair over. Fantasies are fine, but real people smell and are weird, especially men. Men smell like ass and are fucking retards. lol.

Just practice your autogyno in the safety of your home.

>>31288742
If your families don't already know, or at least strongly suspect... then damn: y'all are *really* good at keeping it hush. Good for you both, though. Hope things work out for ya! I had one buddy that... had he asked I'd have moved across the country with him; but we got along just like you describe here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That ship has sailed, though and I'm not losing sleep over it.

>>31288390
>There's something special about sucking off a guy and feeling a grown man vulnerable in your hands, blasting his load to your stimulation
This. Fucking. This. I can't speak to the rest of it, though; haven't had those experiences.

>>31288984
>Which will never be as good as raw-dogging a girl you like and who loves you back
Can also agree with this. As much fun as the other stuff can be, none of it compares to this right here.

>>31292734
will my sociopathic girlboss gf peg me though?

>>31286921
>Is being bisexual worth it, or should I just continue using porn to scratch the itch and only date women?
It doesn't matter if you do or don't date, you obviously like both men and women so you literally are bisexual.
Find a nice guy or girl, literally whoever as long as you respect and love each other.

>>31287019
I consider myself "porn-induced bisexual"—meaning it’s not in my nature, but rather something that developed from watching porn. I agree with almost everything said; I can't speak to the smell of shit because I’ve never gone beyond oral sex—I’ve probably sucked maybe a hundred cocks, give or take. But I can say it’s not worth it. There’s total anxiety before every encounter; I realize it’s a forced thing, but the porn-driven urge is stronger. After every hookup, I feel like a whore, and then I might even masturbate while thinking about the encounter and feel disgusted with myself. If you’re a "porn gay," it’s not worth it; if you were gay by nature, you wouldn’t be asking this question. So, my advice is to stop watching porn.

As already stated super high risk vs low reward
And you better be out and Bi.
Gay and bi men of certain demographics are notorious for outing guys or doing revenge shit to them down the line.
If you think a bitch ruining a man's life is bad some faggot with a kink for doing so will make your head spin.

>>31288984
You're possibly the saddest bitter faggot I have ever seen
We get it bro, your entire personality is being le cynical and coping with your repulsive personality by trying to convince yourself that everyone else sucks and it's totally not your fault you are terminally lonely
Protip, if you want to fix your miserable life, stop poisoning your brain with whatever propaganda you're slurping up online and log off, get a real hobby or something
Otherwise you're just gonna kill yourself before you reach 40
Good luck, you'll need it

well it all depends on you. if you cant definietly say you are hetero, i would say you should try at least. You have no risk, and all to win. If you feel you like girls and some aspects of guys (like it makes you horny to make a bj for example), then you are probably bi. You can try and check if you are into that.
Once I tried oral with men, I liked it, but only as being sub. Being dom with men is disgusting for me. The opposite is once I am with girls. I love being dom with them. Also I am always transparent about being bi, and there were maybe 1 or 2 situations once I was labeled as weirdo.
Maybe not popular opinion, but you cant tell you like or dont like skiing if you never try. You might be afraid before you try and after 2-3 times you love it, once you learn it. but also it might be so stressful stil that will make you to hate it.
Its already 4years since i tried, and it still makes me horny thinking about sucking cock, but i hate swallow, but in the same time i love to play with cum and have it on my body. Not everything is binary.
If you never try, you will never know. Good luck!

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pretending to be a girl and having sex with guys makes me hornier than anything else

>>31290760
>>31291031
Humans are naturally voyeuristic, it's definitely normal to get aroused when you watch engaging in sexual activities. It's not a response the vast majority of animals show. Our ancestors probably had orgies regularly. Humans are still wedged between monogamy and polygamy, we are wired to be socially monogamous but not sexually (a lot of intelligent animals do that, like corvidae). Which is why cheating is such a commonly observed behaviour.
But I digress, point is finding porn arousing is pretty normal, but yes, having it available in your pocket 24/7 might not be healthy mentally, you should set your limits. We also have basically infinite food available in our lives but we don't all weigh 600 pounds because we control ourselves despite our brain telling us to eat constantly because it's used to being constantly starving so to speak.
>>31293238
>porn-induced bisexual
Not a thing. It absolutely IS in your nature (it's in most humans, we evolved this behaviour at some point, otherwise it wouldn't exist), porn is just what made you realize that cause you comfortably explored what you like without having to worry about being judged. You just never would've gone that far in real life to discover your sexuality.

>>31288235
This is 100% bitter foid propaganda.

Or one of those retarded guys who is like I went outside and grabbed a stick off the ground and put it up my ass using only my own shit as lube and had a bad time, therefore anal sex is bad.

But I think you can tell it's a foid though, because she clearly doesn't know the joy of a prostate orgasm and makes up easily disproven shit about this and that

>>31287019
This man speaks truth. Homosex is not inherently immoral beyond being hedonistic, but faggots are evil people.

I have zero interest in actual men, really disgust if I'm being honest. Absolute disgust.

When it comes to traps, trannies & femboys I really want to suck their dicks and just generally ravish them (disgust over anything happening to my ass. In fact, I think that shit is gay w/ real women)

What am I looking at here? How hard is it to hook up with passable femboys/traps? Are they as hard to get as women?

>>31286921
i had some intercourses with men during threesomes with a girl, it was fun. i never had sex with a man alone or dated one, I'd feel too gay and couldn't stand people's stare.

>>31286921
The fact that you're stroking your shit to men means you're going to be gay eventually. You don't realize that you're contiditioning your sex drive towards men. Eventually, you'll be outright gay. If anything, you should STOP watching faggot shit and focus exclusively on straight porn until that "itch" is an "embarrassing chapter in my life."
Or be a faggot.
Let your genetic line cease to exist.
Probably end up with AIDS or Monkey Pox, but DEFINITELY riddled with STDs.
You'll die alone.
No one to love you.
All because you needed to goon to guys with bigger cocks than you. Pathetic.

>>31288235
This schizoposting is very high effort to reward ratio considering it takes a pinky and some spit to realize how far from reality you are

>>31293553
For what it's worth I can corroborate bisexuality being kind of built in. I am one of those people who was born gay straight out of the pussy but I used to make out and grab ass with women at parties. No attraction or arousal at all, but engaging in the group intimacy was fun so I didn't really care.

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>>31294383
I think its both really. I mean obviously you have be able to like something to like it, but porn acts as a powerful influencer of some people's sexual choices. I know I didn't wake up one day wanting to fuck trannies, porn is how that started.

I would say porn doesn't turn one bisexual, but if you needed it to realize you are bi, you probably never liked men all that much to begin with. This explains the cognitive dissonance seen amongst bi guys like us. Porn is an idealized perfect version of the rare gay scenario that turns us on (traps/big dicks), but reality is that most men are gross and unappealing with average dicks, and most "traps" look like drag queens.

I'm a guy who has only ever publicly dated women and every long term relationship has been with them. They are more enjoyable physically in almost all regards. Their skin is so soft and smooth, the way they respond to touch, the sounds they make. Tits and pussy are great, many other things. They are also massive fucking headaches to deal with longer term and I have never felt connected on a soul level to a woman even after 6 year relationship. It is in many ways like taking care of an ignorant child that also presumes superiority after a period of time. That depth of understanding, that knowing bond, is not there and the same is true for every straight relationship of my generation I have ever seen.

When I was a teen I had gay experiences with a close friend who sucked me off a few times. Years later when sick of women's bullshit I downloaded grindr and fucked a couple guys. I've never been a bottom or sucked a dick and don't want to but I like topping feminine twinky guys. I could genuinely never fuck an actual big hairy man it would make me vomit, even normal men over the age of say 30 are usually disgusting to think about. Ass is not as good as pussy. The feel of a man is just not nearly as enjoyable as a squishy girl.
The best blowjob I ever got (by a million miles) was from gay guy who had it down to a fine art.
With one of the guys I got with, he was feminine enough to be very attractive and also not a faggy fag enough to be a bitch just like a woman would be. There was definitely potential for a a great physical and emotional bond there, it was almost like the best of both worlds (almost). Inevitably though, the twink reaper will come and he would transform into a man. This world can be so weird and so cruel.

I'm 30 now so while I can dip my toe back in that pond for a couple years if I stay in shape, I think that phase is ending.

TLDR it can be worth it for fun but not for keeps

Do whatever you want you closeted faggot. No one cares. Quit fishing for validation.

>>31292863
Yeah but she’ll film it and blackmail you with it

>>31293333
Quads for truth. Its a shame how much gays lie about how awful that shit is for degeneracy or self degradation reasons.

>>31287019
How is any of this not also true about foids? Retard.

>>31293349
Another fag, another deflection. Its way easier for you to ignore every point made and act like everyone who disagrees with you is super depressed or some shit.
Its sad when you see cool guys decline when they fall for the gay meme. Despite supposedly being their true selves they end up killing themselves at a higher rate than normal people after realizing how badly they fucked their lives up or had them fucked up by an abusive gay ex. Ofcourse not everyone sucks, Anon. Thats what makes this so tragic.
And even if this mystical 'anti gay propaganda' existed, which it doesnt, why would that make someones life miserable to the point of killing yourself before 40? People have hated gays righteously for millennia without killing themselves, Anon. Your cope doesnt really make sense, doesnt it?

>>31286921
"Being bisexual" is retarded. You can bang guys though. It doesn't have to be a big thing. Unfortunately any hook up that isnt organic and spontaneous tends to bring all the gay shit you'd rather avoid. If you are into dick, then its a different matter, because it brings dumb ideas about non sex things and since its so easy people get compulsive about it, let it take over everything else in life and become gaytarded.

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>>31289733
>big dicks are terrible to suck, you can't really handle them properly and it ain't as fun struggling with them as you'd think.
true

>>31289045
>if you just want anal, you can find a girl that pegs, just make sure you start with that
How would you ever even find that?

>>31289733
Really long can still be fun if you have a trained gag reflex, really thick turns out to be impossible to do anything with. Once you learn to relax and swallow those 7+ inchers are actually more fun. It feels like you're mastering something and guys who are big are very enthusiastic about suckers who can get it all down in my experience.

>>31294292
Probably factual

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>>31295236
Don't shatter the dream

>>31287019
no lies detected

>>31295253
This looks incredible. I’d prefer to be pegged than bang a dude. But I really want to creampie my gf while getting pegged in the ass

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The hardest thing about being bi is deciding what to fap to.

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>>31294529
I relate a lot to this. Never went full gay but I think what always kept me from doing it was knowing its not practical for a serious relationship. I feels more like a fetish than anything else.

I wish I was just a fucking girl and could have sex with guys and have a loving relationship

>>31286921
>Is being bisexual worth it
Yes, it's amazing for me. It might depend on what you're looking for though. I like being a sadist dom for twinks and being a masochist sub for women. I seem to have a look that twinks are attracted to so it works for me.

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Soft to hard challenge

>>31286921
It doesn't matter.

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>>31296018
None of this matters.

>>31293531
true i should do this

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Legendary tranny head.

>>31293238
>man plagued with shame induced psychosis gives others advice
Get therapy, bro. None of the shit you said is normal or healthy.

>>31293238
>I’ve probably sucked maybe a hundred cocks
>After every hookup, I feel like a whore
Wow, very unexpected.

>>31287019
this is the truth, not worth it at all and extremely dangerous faggots are nuts. you've been watching too much porn cut back.

>>31286921
Anal orgasms are the pinnacle of sexual pleasure

>>31288235
Why you just lie all the time

>>31287019
Keep coping gaybro.

>>31288251
You're the one brushing your teeth with shit retard

>>31290131
No I haven't figured out a way to do it safely when I'm getting fucked by my fuck machine

I'm starting to toy with the idea of using electric magnet locks maybe

Grab my teleguard and hit me up there let's keep in touch

>>31290286
You're about as correct as solar powered clock in a submarine

>>31292824
That's cause you're gay. Non gays have a really hard time with it

what i dont get about gays is how an able man that can get his dick hard doesnt fuck a woman, i mean faggots are just mentally ill cant get their dick up etc, but tops being fags is weird for me

>>31290743
So you're one of those loser men who can't get women and cope by fucking feminine men LMAO

>>31293553
>>31294383
>>31296312
>>31296318
I might agree that it’s natural, but I think that for me—and many others—it’s anything but. It’s actually induced by porn; in fact, my first homosexual experiences stemmed from watching porn with my cousin when we were kids. So, we’re talking about seeking pleasure through others' experiences—I had never found men attractive before (and I still don't). I think if I had been naturally bisexual or even gay, I would have looked at men differently and found pleasure in it somehow. I’ve read so many comments from people like me here, and I’m convinced we’re all suffering from the same porn-related issue. The biggest proof is that almost everyone is a bottom, almost everyone is repulsed by the man himself but loves his huge cock, and almost everyone looks for twinks or trans individuals who offer a feminine look but with a dick. I also have doubts about the arousal itself—is it really natural? I read *Your Brain on Porn*, which explains how arousal works—dopamine, porn, etc.—and it’s not as natural as it seems; in fact, it’s very harmful. That seems to be my specific case: someone who sought out hundreds of encounters with strangers, risking disease, only to feel like absolute garbage afterward. After six months without porn, I deleted the gay hookup apps, but after twenty years of watching it, it’s hard—it’s become a sad part of my existence. It’s really a matter for therapy; there’s nothing natural or beneficial about it. That’s why I repeat that it’s absolutely not worth it, and why I say a truly gay man would never have sought out something like this.

>>31287434
I could never fall asleep next to a one night stand, specially one I met through a hook up app
might be just my country but that's inviting to you waking up without a tv and a cellphone at the very least

>>31296644
Are you a robot, by chance?

>>31288822
yeah, this
when I'm horny I look up for trans porn or bi porn sometimes but the moment I cum I regret it
in my incredibly weak horniness I saw a cute trans girl prostitute walking on a street and parked next to her to ask her for a price
when she came closer I could see the shaven skin on the chin and it was instantly a guy, no amount of incredible ass and tight tummy could deny that
still I tried once more when a friend who has fucked everything under the sun told me there was this 18yo trans girl who did hormones for a long while and looked like a girl
and yes, she did look like a girl and that was my first gay experience in my book, still felt lacking compared to porn
that doesn't happen when I fuck girls, most of the times sex feels equal or better than porn
I guess I like the fantasy of it, not the reality of it.
you might have to seriously think about it OP
but try none the less at least once to know like I do that it isn't for me.

>>31289086
some people is asexual I guess
I remember when we had my gfs parents mountain house for ourselves for a week, we barely got out of the house the first 3 days, we fucked, danced, cooked, fucked, played, fucked, watched tv, fucked
some people are very sexual anon, until the day I broke up with her we had sex at least once a day.

remember to get out there and suck some cocks
dont believe these losers, being bi is great!

>>31287019
fags really didnt like this truthnuke

>>31296766
Sybau samefag

>>31287019
This post needs to be saved for posterity and posted in every single /lgbt/ related thread. This advice could save many lives

>>31287019
how many (spiritual) faggots will reply to this post pretending it is eternal wisdom despite having no sexual experience whatsoever (straight or gay)? or is it just the poster desperately samefagging (emphasis on the fag)? in any case, have sex.

>>31296766
Everyone in this thread can tell exactly which posts are yours retard

>>31296491
Women are boring, there's nothing to them. I like to fuck men because there's consistency and strength in their bodies and you don't find that in women. I like the muscle and the hair and the scent of masculinity. I could probably fuck women, I did it in the past, but once I discovered men it was like seeing in color. Considering that, why would you go back? It's a far more enjoyable experience.

>>31296699
checked em. No i use google translator, which is fucking powerful, i'm italian, and i'm writing this without using that, still me

>>31296644
I can tell you've never been to therapy because you think the therapist will de-gay you. Your therapist will also not be using Your Brain On Porn as a source considering it is pop science written by r/NoFap users. Given you and all of these other people you're talking about love dicks have you not considered the other thing you have in common, internal shame? Because I guarantee you your therapist will be more interested in that than how much you want to suck off a hung she/her.

I just wish people would stop trying to craft grand mythic, cosmic and medical theories around what any given guy likes to imagine when getting off. Sexuality is a made up concept and actually has nothing to do with sex. The term itself is a oxymoron because it has nothing to do with actual sex. There is an infinite number of things with equally infinite tangents, aspects and details that men will do to bust a nut. Making up names and theories tp dissemble this blunt truth is pointless.

All passive gay sex is about a humiliation kink and humiliation is a release men typically seek in religion or communion with the cosmos. The active role is about creating it or it wouldn't be much fun. The "sex" is just a physical, fun expression of it. As for the love of males or attraction to their form, its universal. Its just a matter of whether one finds interest in sexually expressing it. It naturally overlaps with humility, the negation or departure of the ego, but its not necessarily "sexual". These same forces were around long before the idea of sodomy was ever even concieved as more than a then-unhygienic absurdity.

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>>31296885
Its also possible that they really just have mixed feelings about it. You don't have to 100% hate or love something. If you really like dick but find everything else about men gross then you will have an internal struggle over your desires. I didn't see a guy I had full attraction to until I was in my 30s, even though I'd been fapping to gay stuff since I was a teenager.

Never had any sexual encounters with men, but I'm definitely bi curious.
Question to those experienced homosexuals: how long do you make fuck and suck sessions last?
I feel like sex with a woman is limited by the time you can perform with kind of a linear progression of arousal towards orgasm.
If I had a male fuckbuddy, my main fantasy to fulfill would be to just hang out, kiss and edge endlessly by blowing, frotting and jerking each other off.
God I'm rock hard just writing this.
Anyway, does that make sense? My fantasy doesn't quite fit into these extreme top and bottom dynamics a lot of stories on here have.

>>31296885
Therapists will encourage you to explore why you feel that way and try to turn you gay

Don't let them hypnosis you into being forced limp

I can find females sexually attractive. I have had sex with them. However I cannot bear women in any way; not their voice, their mindset, nothing. They have nothing to offer me that I want. I would still bear a hetero lifestyle if they left anything good about it remaining. But they rather ruined it through their own brand of hedonism.

I do not believe in sexual labels. Its made up nonsense. Men are just men. Males who are not challenged well in childhood will naturally be more likely to be explorative and transgressive. Norms do not translate the same for people not raised in them.

Its perfectly natural for males to feel same sex crushes, especially in youth. Its not whether someone feels them, but how often, intensely, emotionally and intellectually that makes any one stand out. The general threshold is someone who internally normalizes it and is bent on repeating it especially at the cost of something more substantial or balanced.

The "sin" is not that it is with another male so much as it, like porn and promiscuity messaging, is one male encouraging another male to engage in a biological vice that can be disruptive. A passive gay has no real option but other males. An active homosexual, by contrast, simply likes the recreational physical intimacy and can have it with either males or females.

Its easy for the mind to confuse these aspects. It helps to understand why same sex crushes form, indeed any crush at all. Its about ideas attached to an event or stimulus.

The Japanese once properly framed this as "shumi" or a "hobby". The idea that it takes some genetic or gender aberration to find interest is absurd. However these are popular ideas, because they excuse everyone of responsibility for problematic pursuits, either the person who seeks it as well as shielding those who are not open about passing thoughts from suspicion, as well as parents who simply did not mind their sons social comportment or moral or intellectual development.

There is a intersection between that humiliation and the historical practice of slavery as well as whores. All three have parallel histories and dynamics. To be human property is the manifestation of utter humility and negation of the ego. It carries a release from responsibility and enshrines the ideals of people we cannot be. The helplessness infantilizes one, it allows a return to the ideal comforts of childhood; protection, being cared for, attention.

I have no interest in the gay lifestyle. I do not agree with their beliefs, I do not share their social values or priorities. I find them insane, frankly. I believe that it attracts the mentally unwell among same sex attracted individuals.

Going back to slavery, or humiliation to please and show adoration, I feel it would be better viewed as a vocation. It is a thing you do for someone. It does say something about you. But the idea that it says everything is absurd, closer to a fetish obsession and a product of ignorance, often willful.

The labels are of very limited usefulness. You are not gay, straight or bi. You are a male that does things. The interpretation of what you do varies from one frame of reference to the next. But the motives are never unique nor a mystery. People are just too embarrassed to ask about or discuss them openly. Much of wha people view as contradictions about the phenomenon are simply contrived to excuse or reconcile this aspect or that.

>>31296885
1/2

The question was: is it worth it? So, a person answers based on their own personal experiences—answering someone who really shouldn't have asked that kind of question here in the first place. If you ask a question like that, you’re bound to get answers like these, Especially if you have a doubt stemming from porn and are even aware of it.; so, from my personal point of view and given my own experiences, no, it’s not worth it. I’m convinced that I enjoy sucking cock—I’ve never written otherwise, nor have I ever claimed that a therapist could reverse this pleasure of mine. I only wrote that porn is the primary cause—the reason, the driving force—that led me to start sucking cock in the first place and that many times I felt dirty—the way a "whore" might feel—like an object of pleasure for others, a vessel.; I’m not saying I wouldn't have enjoyed it if I’d never watched porn. I wrote that it isn't worth it because of all the associated dangers—diseases, and so on—though I realize I sound stupid, like someone who’s done cocaine for 20 years and then tells you not to do it because it’s harmful. Not every cock I’ve sucked was nice, big, etc.; I think I even sucked a homeless guy’s cock—and I’m laughing as I write this, so I don’t feel any internal shame. Fortunately, I don’t have any diseases, but what if the person who asked the question ends up in a spiral of cock-sucking like I did? It’s not worth the risk. And don’t tell me that not everyone is like me—that everyone protects themselves and no one risks catching diseases—because in the world of Grindr, I’m probably one of the "least bad" cases. I’ve met men who told me, "Oh yeah, I sucked that guy’s cock too," and so on.

>>31297047
2/2

But the biggest problem isn't the question or the cock; it’s the porn that makes you wonder about certain things. It’s the real bug in your ear—a poisonous one—that infects every single one of your thoughts on a daily basis. I dare the person who made the post to stop watching porn forever and figure out what they really want. Ultimately, the issue of pornography is inextricably linked—or rather, closely associated—with the question of potential bisexuality; this is evident from what the thread's author wrote. All those philosophical notions—about men, women, pleasure, labels, right versus wrong, or what is healthy or hygienic—go out the window here. We are talking about a man who is completely consumed, bombarded, influenced, devastated, and corrupted by pornography—to the point where it drove him (naturally, in the style of porn) to masturbate to increasingly extreme content, leading him to watch big cocks, BBC, and trans performers, and to wonder if he actually enjoys it. If you keep watching porn and start sucking cock—doing both without ever stopping either—it might seem worth it, but believe me, it isn't; porn isn't natural, and it is destroying you.

>>31297051
nta but I feel what you are talking about is unchecked promiscuity. I have to leave but will return to read. Promiscuity between males amplifies any hazard because it is so easy with no guardrails, as has become the case with heteros now as they mainstream promiscuity. I just mean that otherwise, the gender is not as relevant. The real hazard is being consumed with sexual fascination. All other hazards aside, there is still the lost time, energy and focus on it towards something more productive. And for those that can afford to lose so much time to idle indulgence, they are at even worse hazard because nothing is stopping them, like the millionaire crack addict.

I feel people need to step back from focusing on the nature of the sexual obsession and just the fact that it can become an obsession. As for the motives of the individual, they are not unique, can be categorized by various themes and not really material to any detected problems. There are plenty of guys who find a functional balance and can sidestep the traps easily simply by not being whores seven days a week. I am only interested in organic introductions and natural, unforced progressions. I simply cannot afford the time or focus to constantly spend on the overhead of constant sexual escapades. Its for fun and the experiences you learn from it. Its not meant to be the point of existence. Believing so will definitely make your mind sick from over indulgence.

>>31286921
Fuck some Trannies first and see how it goes, hit up the local clubs bars that are exclusive to like trans nights and if all else fails dish out some cash and get an escort. Trans is the best of both worlds and they are typically DL

>>31295253
I like this

>>31297047
Porn cannot make you enjoy sucking dick. I can't convert myself to enjoying brussels sprouts by making myself eat them and I also can't lie to myself and pretend I don't enjoy chocolates, no one else can put a desire into your body unless the ingredients for it were there already.
Your problem begins and ends with your weird internal shame

>>31297223
>But the biggest problem isn't the question or the cock; it’s the porn that makes you wonder about certain things
This is actually dumb, the problem is coming online to cry about why you like something instead of enjoying it and going on with your life. If you never saw porn your choices are learn about it another way or never learn and go through your life with less to enjoy, why is that aspirational? I do not understand this kind of mental illness at all

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>>31297227
I believe I wrote that porn leads you to seek out gay experiences, not that it makes you enjoy sucking cock. By your stupid logic, then, you couldn't say you dislike cock unless you'd actually sucked one? I’m telling you that you could learn to like broccoli if you ate it every day, because tastes are a matter of habit, and over time you learn to appreciate flavors you didn't like before. You also talk about physical desire, but instilling a desire is different from the pleasure you feel while actually doing something. Nobody is crying over nothing or making a fuss here; and as for your claim that you’d just find information elsewhere without porn—what kind of argument is that? And why do you assume it’s necessarily about pleasure? Why can't a man exist without porn, or fail to find pleasure in homosexual encounters? Just because you’re a confirmed homosexual—and were born that way—doesn't mean everyone else is like you.

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>were born that way
And when you hear that phrase, you know thinking, causality, reason, deduction, introspection, rationality and accountability has stopped.

One cannot constantly, passionately rail against homosexuality without constantly, passionately thinking about homosexuality. If there were no such thing as homosexuality, mankind would invent it. In the first generation, second at most. Its as simple as asking 'what if' followed by 'lets try it'.

>>31297397
>I'm telling you that you could learn to like broccoli if you ate it every day, because tastes are a matter of habit, and over time you learn to appreciate flavors you didn't like before.
Prove it. Your least favourite food, go make yourself like it. The rest of the comment is cope, like pretending porn is the only place a guy might learn about sucking dicks lol

>>31297494
Because enjoying sex is automatic and shame is taught. If all human memories were wiped tomorrow faggots would be exactly the same within a day because they're not the ones acting against their nature. The people blog spamming in here would fall into whichever psyop gets invented first.

>>31297397
>Nobody is crying over nothing or making a fuss here; and as for your claim that you’d just find information elsewhere without porn—what kind of argument is that? And why do you assume it’s necessarily about pleasure? Why can't a man exist without porn, or fail to find pleasure in homosexual encounters?
Ignoring that you're crying this whole thread reverse all of those questions. Why is it bad to like sucking dicks? Why are you desiring a world where you don't know you like it?
Why is it bad for a man to know he enjoys something? Why are you concerned about what you find pleasure in?
Just because you that feel dirty about being a cocksucker does not mean anyone else does, your hangups about sex are about you

>>31287019
90% agree, cuss that's just how gay hook up culture is. No way around it.
However, if you get a guy for life, like one of your childhood friends or something, or just a normal good guy you met online through video games. You'll end up happier than with a woman. Bro-love runs deeper than that.
Imagine a partner you can truely, unironically, do anything you want with. Even if you can show me a woman who likes all your hobbies those are far and few between.
And if both of you don't have a high body count going into it prior. It will also be easier and less akward for both.
Plus if you actually like eachother you won't blackmail eachother or abuse eachother. And you know you're both clean.

>>31297545
Why do dl/closeted people exist in a world where your boyfriend might blackmail or abuse you, or give you an STD, what the fuck? I live in completely out of the closet gay world and every guy I've ever dated has been happy to hang out with me in public and to meet my parents, cannot imagine living life like this