Too bad this topic gets nuked now

>>2606966
Yea, what's up with that? A janny thing?

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>>2606970
just enforcement of global rule 1. last time this thread was around I caught a temp ban. even on reddit (r/HEM_NSFW) they are strict with what specifically can be discussed, such as talk of tips and pricing

>>2606981
Fascinating.

You heard it here anon, stories and pics only.

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>>2606981
Yup. On /trv/ you can't even talk about banging cheap 3rd world whores anymore.

>>2606987
I gotta travel more...

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>>2607005
Damn, I would be super into those tits and that belly roll

>>2606961
I have in excess of 30 hours of oc sex videos that I will never share here because I respect my escorts privacy

>>2607285
Do they all known you recorded them?

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Scotland, recently. Very submissive. A great fuck.

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>>2607449
post 6

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Curious on your guy's thought on being in a relationship or dating after seeing escorts? Because personally I don't feel like I deserve to be in one after being apart of this lifestyle for so long.

>>2607472
Why? People enter relationships all the time after sleeping around. As long as you're safe about it I don't see the problem. Odds are the woman you marry won't be a virgin. How long have you been in this lifestyle?

>>2606976
wish it was easier to find videos like this these days -- they're fucking hot. Does anyone know any sites with collections?

Has anyone gone from AMPs to escorts? Thinking of giving an escort a shot soon but I'm not sure how different it is to the AMP experience.
>>2607613
Motherless has a good bit. Eporner too

>>2607613
https://www.erome.com/a/2KS9GCQz

barcelona

>>2607662
>>2607662

How likely is it a masseuse would be willing to feed me my nut?

>>2607726
Been thinking about the same idea recently. Other option is just to titfuck, jizz on the breasts and lick it up.

so how do you guys feel about hotels. I feel weird stepping like everyone knows I’m there for one thing. Am I just in my head and no one cares?

>>2607854
I worked at a hotel that was used for an infamous and now-defunct porn studio. Nobody really cares what people do in their rooms just as long as you don't fuck things up.

>>2607726
the way I see it they'd do it but giggle a lot

>>2607969
I think I would be alright with that

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>>2607726
they'll do anything if the tip is big enough, but the problem is they will look like this

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Welcome back fellow mongas, any other high enders report in. I'm at the point where I can't motivate myself to see anyone else. The comfort of knowing someone for years is unbeatable for chemistry during a sesh.

>>2608104
nice she is hot

>>2608104
>The comfort of knowing someone for years is unbeatable for chemistry during a sesh

It's like a monger stumbling on the perks of a relationship decades too late.

That is a glorious ass though, 10/10 would eat.

>>2606961
Everyone of these women will 100% rob you!

>>2608170
I know the perks, but when you're a sub5 in 2026 a relationship is functionally impossible to attain.

Not mong, but a freeone.
Matched on tinder, girlie is 1 month past breakup, and wants hookups.
Maaan, she was stressed up for no reason.
We drank a glass of wine, making out on the couch, then in the bedroom.
She was tightened up and irritable vagina.
After 2 clit orgasms loosend up, rode 1 inch of my semi hard. Got an orgasm, went to sleep.
Question: how to relive stress, when girlie is new to hookups and does not feel comfortable around stange men in her flat?

should I go to the AMP that is hagmaxxed or to the one that has young staff (closer)? I think that both have their advantage

>>2608657
personally if I'm just getting an L1 it doesn't matter much. whichever one is cheaper.

>>2608657
It's cheap enough that you can sample the variety until you find one you prefer.

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Ausanon here, here are some punts over the years

>>2608742
Big fan of bolt-ons are we?

>>2606970
People started talking about way to young girls.

I really want to get in to this but my money is tight and it's one of those things where I feel like if I start doing it it won't end to well for me.

Which is a bit hypocritical of me since I've also begun to set up a OF and cam sex profile for myself since I've also always wanted to do that stuff.

I wish having a lot of kinky sex and mental stability weren't on the other ends of the spectrum.

>>2607854
I’ve been using them for 20+ years and nothing like the thrill of knowing you’re about to clap a woman who’s out of your leagues cheeks. Rush of energy. I wouldn’t feel weird about it. Lots of fun times and a good way to get experience. Pay a deposit for security and enjoy.

>>2606961
I missed these threads something fierce. I am starting to see some old faces come back on the usual sites. Is it the change in weather or is the economy finally fucked enough that ladies are getting desperate?
>>2607285
I had one of the top 10 bodies I've been with agree to a recorded session for half the rate she normally charges for a session because she was super desperate and hadn't had a client in 3 days because she was unreviewed. My harddrive crashed and I had no backups. That shit was my go-to fap like once a week, I worked so hard to make the session last long too. Young blonde bombshell that was new to the game. My only consolation is that I probably would have deleted it anyway once I got into a relationship again, but it still hurts.
>>2607726
I've had this offered to me once and declined. That particular session was probably also a top 10.
>>2608073
The one in question was smoking hot at a place that prides itself on having hotties and has bbjcim as part of their normal service. My only qualm about this place is that it's not 24 hours, but it's a wonderful spot.
>>2607854
Don't shit where you eat if you have a common car. Unless it's like super late at night, I typically don't hit hotels that are like in a 10 minute radius of where people I know live.
>>2608286
It sounds like you had a lot of foreplay so idk. Use weed next time instead of alcohol maybe

The market has been terrible in my area, doesn't help that most hotels in said area have become shelters as well.

Are there any viagra alternatives that don't need a prescription? I don't have ED, but I was thinking I'd finally knock the threesome off the bucket list for my bday and I want to go for like 2 hours with an effectively non-existent refractory period. And since I'm probably only doing it once, if I could just get like 2 pills instead of a whole friggin bottle that would be nice too.

>>2608812
male or female?
I'm good friends with an escort/onlyfans girl, from what I've seen guys only get anywhere if they go mask off and for girls you need to make friends. Most of the sex workers I've met that are working or friendly with each other for the most part, basically a socially obligated workers union.

>>2608857
Check alldaychemist they have what you need.

>>2607472
I've always had a super strange relationship with sex which is why I'm still a virgin, so I'm no authority, but a friend of mine fucked nothing but escorts until he was 25, then immediately got into a long term relationship with a very nice girl and everything's been normal for them.

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Girl from IG

>>2609243
damn what a great ass

>>2609243
"Never done anything like this"

Sure sure, totes, sure sure sure

>>2609243
"marking me"? I thought she meant branding at first, but I've literally never seen that slang used for a facial. Damn I guess CIM was totally out of the question.
How much did she run you, and did she let you nut multiple times? Kissing?

>>2609247

Marking = hickies and bruises

>>2606961
One of these girls took a photo of me. I didn't think much of it at the moment, but now I'm worried about what she will do with it. I'm not married or anything so I don't care about being blackmailed, she also doesn't know my name or anything.
Am I being too paranoid or what?

>>2609243
How did you set up your IG profile and go about contacting them? I'm a total goober so idk how the hell Im supposed to bag a woman like that when all my pictures are me in my shitty cosplays.

>>2609429

My profile is private. It's important to reveal exactly what you want in the beginning and that you have the means to give them what they want. How you do that is on you. The lifestyle and images they post will often tell me whether they'll be interested or not.

>>2609437
i feel like they make up the majority of the ladies in the biz...

>>2609431
So you literally just message them "hey can I pay you for sex?"

>>2608863
male. Just sick and tired of thinking im better than everyone for being a "pure moral person" when the fact is there isn't anything wrong with being sexy.

>>2609486

That's how you get insta-blocked

>>2609619
It's a numbers game. Just keep doing it and eventually you'll come across someone willing.

>>2609619
>>2609620
What do you say or do then other than being up-front about it? Let alone how do you even spot someone or is it purely "I found them attractive so I just went for it"

>>2609620

Bingo

>>2609431
Yeah, how do you even tell which girls would like they'd be down for it? Specially on Instagram, I have no idea how that app even works or how to find people in my area. I'm definitely missing something.

>>2609874
It's very predictable, typical influencer types focused around travel/fashion/luxury/high living. A lot of these women dream of working their way up into the arms of rich elites who fly them out to Dubai/South of France/Yacht Week. You'd be shocked how willing normies are to soliciting important opportunities via random DMs; many are waiting for a sugar daddy to drop into their laps.

>>2609919

Bingo again

>>2609919
How does it work when your an average goober then? I don't know if I'm capable of talking to women in anything but cartoon voices anymore and my wardrobe is nothing but anime shirts. How badly do I have to look max or just telling them "ill pay you $300 for sex" good enough.

>>2609974
Why are you looking for girls off Insta? If you need poon that bad there's all the normal sites and brothels to fulfill this.

>>2609979
Because we're talking about sugaring and not just getting whores. I know where to get whores, I want to get in to sugaring.

>>2610029
Isn't this what they made Seeking for?

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Another IG find. 2K for the weekend

>>2610032
Seeking is ass and theynare trying to turn it in to an actual dating site now.

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Hannah Valentine is my go-to girl in Ottawa, Ontario

Best tugs, sucks, and fucks I've ever gotten

hannahhoney905@gmail.com

These hos not picking up the phone saves me sooooo much money

>>2609243
>>2610047
You putting in specific search terms to even find them? Are they friends of friends?

>>2610222

Search by city and see what pops up

Going to TJ for the first time— any tips/advice?

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>>2607472
It's me I'm 32 Btw

>>2607604
Same guy, Personally I've been doing this for over 10 years and I can recall exact points that my sexual tastes get stronger and stronger. Like I was only ever interested in banging attractive women with a condom on, to the point where I am now which I now enjoying getting topped by trannies.

So in a way i feel like if i were to get into a relationship i don't know what to about my sexual tastes that i feel are so tainted and how I've done so much don't feel like I'm worth a relationship. Plus I Don't know how to even have a conversation with anybody much less somebody who I would hope to be in love and care for.

>>2608880
I would really love the same scenario for myself but I don't think i'll get lucky like that.

>>2607472
I never had an issue going back to a real relationship when I feel like it. I've kind of stopped seeing whores and dating at the same time. I just wanna chill and shit.

Have you ever caught anything from this? I've been tipping for BBFS every few visits and haven't been infected so far.

Living in place where it's legal. Thinking about going to a massage + HE place when my GF is out of town. Any advice on what kind of girl I should request? Age? Race? HJ/BJ? I am not really particular just want someone who will do a good job.

>>2610597
The older ladies may not be pleasant to look at, but most got magic hands from all the experience

>>2610499
Personally I've been fine but, its a numbers game do it enough and you'll probably catch something. At the point I am now enjoy not wearing a condom to much rather than wearing one.

>>2610499
I only go for HE these days. Sex was nice early on, but I realized it's just work when these whores just starfish. I'd rather just lay back and get taken care of. So really low risk of catching anything,

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This asian escort in toronto is offering bbc cuckold sessions im gonna take the plunge this weekend boys

Met some 18 year old black egirl off discord a few weeks ago. It's been great being her daddy so far and she's hella kinky and very obedient.

>>2607996
so did she do it?

>>2610631
It's never too late to not to be a degen, senpai...

>>2610631
are you the bbc or the cuckold?

What kind of equipment and setup do I need if I want to do studio-tier recording? I imagine for POV scenes it's more sophisticated than just pounding away at a ho with my phone strapped to my head. Right?

>>2610932
A decent camera and a ring light attachment for POV

>want to visit escort for anal, she's in my area for the second time
>first time I got really horny for her pics, but never went
>also skipped the second time
>read a review that she went all in rimming the guy
not sure if I dodged a bullet or missed a good experience. she sounds fun, but maybe she's already so far along that she doesn't care about catching anything at all. prices are service appropriate

I once again drove an hour out to get semi-ghosted. I say semi because after waiting in the parking lot for her for 20 minutes I begin the hour long drive of shame back to see that she texted me asking if I'm still around 10 minutes before I got to my house.
I tell myself I won't do that shit again, and it's been 2 years since I took that long of a drive to get ghosted, but I know I'll keep falling for it for to try new, young girls in the game. Fucking sigh.

going to downtown LA this weekend, wheres the closest AMP there that has good service

>>2606972
More?

>>2606979
>>2606984
>>2606985
>>2606986

Would definitely love to see more of her

>>2611146
haha that's my pic. funny to see it reposted. she was my atf from last year who sadly went back "home". I was only able to sneak that pic by pretending to use google translate on my phone and discussing what I wanted in that session

>>2611120
them sneaking in a customer before a set date sucks anyways, but with such a little long drive before it's of course extra annoying

>Meet with 19yo 5'4" 100lbs slut off seeking
>Agree to sugar relationship
>link a few times
>she enjoys getting black out drunk when we meet
>I enjoy using her in every way imaginable
>this last time after doing rounds the night before, she wakes up showers, comes back out and start complaining about how sore she is
> (doesnt realize i fucked her ass hard)
>bitches how i need to be more gentle
>ask her if she can take one more load before checkout
>she starts drinking and i throw her in the bed, make her suck my cock til its hard, face fuck her, flip her on her stomach and fuck her till i cum deep in her
>take her to get lunch together
> leave with agreement to meet this weekend

She's hella pissed at me but doesnt realize I fucked her ass. Should I do it again? Be nice and stop ass fucking her so she keeps letting me use her as my cum dump? Grow up and stop using these teens?

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>>2611395
Pic related

>>2611396
Those nails are one of the most hideous things I've seen in fifteen years of 4chan

Was fine with still having my v-card for a lot of time, but Ieally want to lose it nowadays lads.
Should I let a more expensive escort blow me raw or should I also wear a condom for bjs and not just sex? I really am afraid of STDs but I am starting to go insane of still being a virgin. I already found an older escort, who according to reviews is really gentle and kind, is pretty obviously, and according to her own description prefers more slow and romantic sex and discovering each other's bodies instead of 5 minutes of jackhammering so she does not accept clients who are not willing to pay for at least 2 hours. She also states in her description that she thinks herself as the best option for virgins.

>>2611396
>>2611395
Is seeking still a good place to find them? I don't want to signup because they make you give out too much information. Is there a way around giving out your personal details?

>>2611408
Meh, not really you can find a diamond in the rough. But its mostly scammers, platonic picture sellers, etc. Currently courting two from seeking.

The 19yo refereed to above. And another diamond I'm still breaking in: 18 year old, Latina, kinda goth, I'm her second sexual partner, and she has the tightest cunt I've been in. But she's not a complete slut like my 19 yo cum dump. So no raw, learning to deep throat, new to a lot, kinda fun experimenting and teaching, but more time consuming.

>>2608722
skipped the further away one because they increased their prices. the hag got transferred to the closer one, and I had a session with her, but it was really average. she didn't even fake being into it, finished the massage in 45 minutes although I booked an hour, and I noticed only when I got home. not really inclined to go to either place again. worst part was that she neatly folded my used towels for the next customer, although they had like 10 fresh ones in the drawer.

>>2611395
>>2611396
You creampie her ass?

>>2611498
Yes, she drunkenly stumbled into the bathroom and heard her fart it out while she pee’d. Then she fell on the couch and I had to throw her naked body into bed to snuggle against until I could go again.

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>>2611118
That's a bridge too far for me dog. You know that's gonna end badly for her and whoever she sees when she inevitably catches something.

>>2611120
Never commute more than 30 mins, esp for a first meet. No girl is worth it, especially if they're that bad with their client management.

>>2611400
STDs concerns are overrated when you're dealing with professionals with reviews and experience. They're testing far more than the average broad.

Big advice for first-timers, don't be surprised if you suffer from ED. Years of porn consumption has likely rewired your brain to the point that you no longer view real women as a source of arousal. Nerves + awkwardness are difficult as hell to get over, esp for your first time. You've got the right idea with finding someone gentle and slow, but don't be surprised if it isn't enough or isn't as advertised. Reviews don't mean much in this hobby, guys will rave over literally anything related to sex. Find someone mid-cost, experienced and someone you'd genuinely find attractive. Mention your virginity and most girls should know how to approach it. Take your time, break the ice before starting and honestly don't do more than 1hr because if it's not working out within 5-10 minutes then you're not gonna do any better later.

>>2611434
RIP, I always find AMPs to be extremely underwhelming. I know it's a cost thing for most folks but paying anything for a subpar time is a uniquely humiliating experience.

>>2611577
>Never commute more than 30 mins, esp for a first meet. No girl is worth it, especially if they're that bad with their client management.
I know man, I know. That time 2 years ago I drove TWO AND A HALF HOURS to have a bitch ghost me and I held out on doing that dumb shit again until the other day. It was too good to be true to be honest. The girl I was going to see this time was new on the scene but still had a few good reviews, young, tight body, and was offering me a 2 pop recorded session for a ridiculously low price.

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>>2611411
Pic related 18yo

>>2611577
>Big advice for first-timers, don't be surprised if you suffer from ED. Years of porn consumption has likely rewired your brain to the point that you no longer view real women as a source of arousal.

This is true. Some advice though is that no fap does work. Usually only takes about 2 weeks of not touching your dick to reset it.

>>2611662
nice pull

I was drunk and ate out a 18yo girl who had been in a south east asian meat market (Boten, Laos) for a month. she showered first and wouldn't do anything other than starfish with a condom. she was the most innocent looking girl in the market, wearing a tshirt unlike everyone else.
how fucked am I in terms of catching oral HPV?

>>2611940
You're fucked

>>2611940
Google is telling me that the results vary wildly, but from a prostitute, who let's be real, probably didn't start letting dudes pay to play the day she turned 18 I'd err on the side of that 50% chance. I've gone down on seasoned AMP ladies though (not for extended periods of time) and haven't caught anything, but knowing that I might even stop kissing these bitches lol.

>>2611940
Rawdoggin' it in SEA? Just get tested senpai.

What's the shortest you all have been with? For me 4'10"

>>2612033
For sure worth it. Pics might be outddated if it's only $300, or looks might be not as good as you expect.
If you send the ad I can determine if its a scam

>>2612014
i mean i rawdogged it with my tongue but she wasn't wet or my tongue was dry and i was waaaay too drunk. Idk how long i ate her out but prolly just 1-2 mins max. Its not like my face was covered in her juices.
Wow I was drunk though. I couldn't finish once I got a condom on and tried to go to town, gave up after a minute or two of hotdogging, then a few minutes later and left the room. Was too drunk to know what happened after but as far as I know I left the room with four unopened beers in my hands and then I blacked out (note: did not pass out) and became conscious enough to find my *real* hotel room (which was precisely across the hallway from the one I got with her) about 6 hours later kek.

If I get throat cancer one day from eating her out while drunk, I will get a T-Shirt that warns people not to eat out hookers.

She cost $45 for the night. Short time would have been $15. I was dumb for not going for the short time since that is the amount of time I spent with her. That being said, if I wasn't fucking drunk, maybe I could have made the long time work too. Who the fuck knows but I could have had her short time for three days for that price ahhh shit

>>2611957
Its laos. Her sister got her into the game. She wouldn't kiss, wouldn't do handjobs, wouldn't entertain blowjobs, and had been in the game 30 days. Entirely likely that she sold her virginity 30 days ago for <$1000.

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I fucked 37 hookers in 2025. Creampied 25 of them. Zero condoms, except for one bitch.
This year I’m on track for 52 girls. I’ve basically been fucking one new girl each week. There’s a degree of difficulty with this, as my city is on the smaller side.
I only go for Asians. They seem most open to bareback and less likely to be druggies or scumbags. I’d say about 20% are attractive in the face. Rest are average or below, but Asians have nice bodies and skin. So I just ignore their subhuman/monkey looks and focus on pounding them out.
I have Pic related lined up this afternoon for a creampie. Took a while to convince her to go raw with me. Will report back after insemination.

I’m contemplating a trip to Thailand this year. That will really get my numbers up if I don’t die in the process lol

>>2612086
how do you do it? it's rare for me to find one that I find attractive, so I just browse the new ones every week and rarely visit

I pimped out my Chinese GF this week for $450. first time. she now has a body count of: 4 including one girl and 3 guys.
AMA

>>2612278
how'd you meet

>>2612279
university, a few years back. like 7 years back.

>>2612278
how did she like it?

>>2612287
immediately after, she seemed very upset and said she might need therapy. after an hour or so of walking around the city (at very slow pace) and giving her some sugar/ice cream/coffee, it seemed like she just got super tired from 2+ hours of sex and 2+ hours of talking. she seems fine.
I audio recorded the whole thing from her phone for analysis and it seems she did totally fine. I haven't listened to the end fully yet but I mean it is just sex noises from that point.
anyway she knows now that she is marked forever as a prostitute. we're discussing what to spend her $400 on. I want it to be something permanent she can keep as a memory, she wants the opposite. negotiations ongoing.

>>2612086
She wasn’t bad. Nice body, but very chinky face and teeth, attractive, mid 30’s. Normal blowjob and fuck nothing outrageous. I hit it in a few positions then flipped her into doggy and blasted one in her. She said she was cunning and her asshole winked at me lol.
I’m gonna see a Japanese lady tomorrow. She’s at an AMP that I frequent, and the owner has assured me she offers bbfs.

>>2612183
Do what, fuck unattractive hookers?
Viagra helps to get started and its not difficult to stay hard and cum with direct cock stimulation.

For finding girls, I just look at Leo list. I’m near Vancouver so it’s not hard to find whores.
I’m also friendly with a few pimps/handlers. They let me know when new girls are in town, and send me pictures.

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>>2612278
Whose idea was it? What kind of relationship do you have? It sounds like you’re her Dom.
Did all 3 guys and 1 girl fuck her at the same time? $450 is a sweet deal for 2 hours of a sex orgy.
Can I rent her sometime?
Pics?

>>2612291
>Do what, fuck unattractive hookers?
yeah, or are they all attractive to you? I mean the chinese girl you posted seems alright and I'd be into it but it's not like I absolutely need to have her

>>2612292
asian girls are just submissive I don't have to be her dom.
I mean her whole sexual experience is 3 guys and 1 girl.
The $450 was just one guy who took her to a hotel for some photos, talking, and like 2 hours of sex.
locality is SH, .CN

>>2608811
>come to the thread happy it's still up
>read this
see, this is the thing, I'm not ugly and I can attract girls
but girls I attract are around my age, that's normal
but I love 18yo, 19yo, etc
I love how they smell, I love how they fuck, I love how they never grow tired, I love how they show me new music, I love it all.
Also if I wanted someone experienced to fuck my brains out I would go out bar hunting, you always find girls who are like guys, with a bucket list of dudes they want to fuck and I always find one that has my kind of dude missing from her bucket list
but that's no fun for me, I do it because I have low self control and the attention is nice, but the sex act is not nice at all, I don't like girls who are like dudes, they know the precise movements to make you cum in 4 minutes, they know how to suck your penis until your eyes go back, etc etc
it all seems so used up
I love newbies, I would never pay for something I can get for free.
And unfortunately newbies will always be freshly turned 18, or around that

>>2607472
I've dated in between seeing escorts plenty
you don't think "man I don't deserve buying my own car, I go karting or test drive cars way too much
that's retarded

>>2612390
Anon they aren't talking about 18 year olds, they where talking younger which is illegal.

>>2611662
Have my sugar baby coming over tomorrow night. She wants to stay over till Saturday... She's cute AF and wants me to come home at lunch and fuck her, cook dinner, and play house type of shit.

This a bad idea? Or extended training for her?

>>2612613
knock her up

I'm in Amsterday this summer for a week so I ask if any dutch anon can help me out with a website where I can get some info

>>2612639
Window shopping is kinda part of the experience.

>>2612646
pretty gay

Does anyone use snap for getting quick fucks? I've been pretty direct with random adds and asking if they link up. I'm surprised how many girls have a menu readily available lul

>>2610913
cuck obv

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>>2610850

>>2610753
I didn't bother to ask. Massage was good, jerked me off but honestly wasn't having the best time. Wasn't floored by the experience, might try again to see if it was a fluke but otherwise just might not give a shit about an AMP dynamic.

>>2607726
this sounds hot while you're jerking off but as soon as you come you don't care and might even feel disgusted by it.
t. every fantasy I've had where stuff happened after I came ended up being underwhelming or even disgusting

>>2612633
Condom broke this morning while fucking before work. Plan B'd. Hope she doesn't get too crampy and will still fuck... But learned she loves to deepthroat/face fuck when a little stoned.

And just figure out she's still in highschool.

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>>2611411
>I'm her second sexual partner
how does a girl go from losing her virginity to her next sexual experience being glorified prostitution kek

>>2612880
As long as you dont cum too early youre good

>>2612899
By Being abused and manipulate by a 4channer.

>>2612883
talk like that might get this thread nuked again

>>2606961
What do you think about a guy who dates a hooker and raises her child from another man, and then posts about that publicly on Instagram like its a normal wholesome family (not the hooker part, thats secret, but the part of dating a single mom (secret hooker) and raising the her kid)

Part of me thinks thats several levels of cucked, but the other part of me is extremely jealous

>>2612923
Kids need a father figure, as research shows. Just make sure you have the hooker squeeze out at least one of yours, and raise all of them right so they won't become fags.

>>2607726
>>2607830
what's it like being massive fags?

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>>2610631
can I join? let’s do toronto three way split. (I’m serious)

I’m really tempted to try an agency but I’m freaked out by the prospect of an undercover sting or blackmail operation. Do guys really send pics of their ID’s and LinkedIns for “verification”? Seems risky but I’m tired of the hit-or-miss quality of AMPs.

>>2613038
There's an entire world of independents that exist between agencies and AMPs. Sadly there's no guarantee of quality in this hobby no matter who you go with. Go with a pricier indie, no one's running stings on people past a certain price point because they won't nab enough people to be worth their time.

>have to deal with literal scammers, ugly and fat girls to find that one chill, young, hot escort that lets you gently dick her while she softly moans

the chase is so worth it sometimes

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>>2613065
You'd think it wouldn't be so hard right??? Something tells me that online industries like camgirling/OF has cratered the escort work force post-covid. You spend hours researching and filtering out all the scams, frauds and ripoffs just to end up with a starfish rush-job. Who the hell knew wanting to give money to women to do this most basic thing would be so difficult???

>>2613038
Are there any reviews of it online? It's rare for sting operations to use fake agencies, & blackmail is even rarer since it doesn't even work unless you have a wife, in which case what are you even doing.
A real agency is perfectly fine to give your info to-- they are interested in keeping things discreet & won't do anything unless you try and scam them or hurt someone. Most likely is you get banned & your info is sent to other agencies. it's still a risk, but there are next to zero instances of it coming back to bite someone posted online, especially recently

I've been to parlors before, and tried an escort off of tryst, but how much does sugaring usually cost? I'm young and poor and interested in girls my age, but I don't know how to attract them.

>>2613221
>I'm young and poor and interested in girls my age
Wait a few years. Become established first.

>>2612923
I don't care. If they are happy they are happy. So long as they don't fuck with my life that's all that is important.

>>2613221
You will drain your wallet. Sugaring is a privilege for people who made it in life and chances are you could probably just get a hot girlfriend if you have enough money to do it to begin with. I really feel like the shit is mainly for well-off men who are either stuck in a dead bedroom marriage or are too cucked to have an age gap relationship be public.

>>2613221
sugaring is kinda expensive, you gotta make them an offer that sounds too good to stop seeing other men or at least have you as a priority.
My country is poor and go for poor cute girls so your mileage might vary but I usually pay them like 20 or 30% more than the minimum average per month, we fuck twice a week, we go out sometimes (I admit I like it when the option is there but I don't do it all the time, sometimes I just want them to come and we fuck and then drop them at their place)
anyways, 2 things are important
1. they're tired of many random dudes and you're nice to be around
2. you offer them what they could make in a month
if they're ok fucking everything that moves the amount you have to give them is ridiculously big
if they're scared of fucking so many randoms the offer you can make them can be enticing even if it's not that big
and of course you two have to have some chemistry or at least not hate each other when you meet for it to work
t. I've had 6 sugar babies by now, with varied success and I dropped half while the other half flaked or dropped mid deal
also always tell them you'll pay at the end of the month or every couple of weeks or something so they at least try while you two are together, if you pay them upfront they'll consider themselves served and not put any effort into it.

>>2613401
Yeah. I'm thinking of giving it up. I ain't got the funds or time for it. It is pretty much just dating but almost worse because of the sub fee. Rather just get a hooker off list mates every now and then.

>>2613401
>too cucked to have an age gap relationship be public
sometimes you just want a hot 18yo to fuck and then leave when you're bored of her without it being a huge drama
if you made her fall in love with you or you were public a lot of people go after you, you were the older one, you surely groomed her, you're terrible, her mom calls you, your parents tell you not to date this young again, etc
when there is a contract it can stop at any moment and the moment you're bored of her you just tell this month is the last month and that's it, no drama.
also who says you can't take them out on dates and flaunt her around the city, that's something that is implied in most sugaring agreements

perhaps a shot in the dark

any of you anons been to peru? I been doing some research and it seems like kines are the brothels they have over there and ive found a few websites but can't seem to figure out what is legit or not

I'll be in peru for a while and leave tomorrow so I have time to figure it out some more but if any of yall could point me in the right direction for mongering in Peru I'd appreciate it


I'm not new to the hobby, but this is my first time going abroad and doing it, thank you in advance

>>2613529
not from peru and I have not been in peru but I live in the region
it all depends on what you want and how much you want to spend
there are places like what a youtuber called charles boyer captures in his videos in colombia in perú too, in lima
that's a good option if you want something not expensive, but your mileage in what you'll find in regards to how attractive the women are
now a more expensive option would be escort pages but those I don't know since I don't live there
skokka is an option. some say it's a scam, and don't get me wrong, half of the ads are scams, but there are whores with verified photos, those are legit, at least that's how it works in my country.

>>2612923
I think raising somebody else's kid is noble, but dating a hooker is extremely cucked.

I will travel to germany, Munich, Nuremburg, what websites, which places to visit?
Have anyone rented a service sub for soft BDSM?

guys I had an amazing girl come to my place today and I'm very afraid this is the last time I'll see her
see, there is this other girl, they brought her to my place a month ago or so, we got along well, we fucked nice, I proposed in the heat of the moment an arrangement to see each other twice a week, she refused, I said ok and let the idea go.
but then she told me a week or so later, next time she came by, that she could do that now.
thing is she started introducing me her friend and her friends are way more interesting for me.
One was an anal virgin and I took it from her for an amount that was laughable for me, she suffered a bit but took it like a champ
and the other, the other is the one I saw today
omg, I had never fucked with someone that was like a pornstar
she did everything I asked, knew how to move, she was tight to boot and ok with us having multiple encounters in the time allotted, so I came some 20 minutes into us seeing each other and then we rested a bit and we had another go, and we even stayed a long while after time was up and she never complained or said anything.
She also let me fuck her ass, she sucked like a champ, she took my penis all the way to the balls in her mouth, let me cum in her pussy, and to finish this off with a cherry on top, she licked my ass while jerking me off to help me finish the third time.
Now, I've read around here that girls eating a guy's ass is common in other countries and expected from them, but in my country it's very very rare
a weird mix of conservative views and catholicism, guys asses are not meant to be eaten basically, they look at you like you're going to ask them to peg you next or something.
anyways, thing is the first girl was already having second thoughts about her introducing all her friends to me after the first one, and now I can see why
while she's a nice fuck, the other two were mindblowing for their own reasons, this last one specially, what a show.
1/2

>>2614064
and the other girl told her to block my number
she's told me she will not do that and all of that but I don't know, they do want my money but they're friends after all.

>>2614064
>>2614065
so are they amateurs? what's your question? thanks for sharing

>>2614073
yeah for the most part I fuck newbies and girls who do this on the side, not as a main occupation
I don't have a question at all

anyone ever gone regular with amp? recently tried a new place and while shes a bit older and face is quite average, her body is dynamite.

she knows the language, is really nice and friendly. her actual home is really close to my apt and she hinted that I could visit her there if I wanted.

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If I'm fed up with mediocre women and I want to have sex with pic related, where do I go ?

>>2614328
yes. had it's benefits, once they had a second masseuse in for training. had some good deals, but for some reason they hiked the prices and the masseuses turned to granny tier so I stopped going there

>>2614330
this is a couple dozen thousand of dollars bro, if you're nowhere close to spend that and not feel terrible afterwards don't even ask

>>2610598
The grannies are fucking artists with their hj game. It's not a consolation prize. They look decent enough and you can't really see much anyway so their appearance isn't a big factor.

>>2614366
>this is a couple dozen thousand of dollars
where did you get this info from ?

>>2614383
I have no idea who that woman is, all I'm saying is that if you don't have contacts or any rapport with madames or people that get you high tier escorts, the first one is going to be extremely expensive, the rest will go down in price if you play your cards well, they just don't want to give their prime pussy to randoms

>>2614383
whores of that caliber don't go for average joes, they go for whales or saudi princes

>>2612543
eh, well there is only one reason old fat white men go to the Philippines or other SEA countries anyways, so its impossible for them not to.

>>2614388
Do you speak from personal experience, or know someone that did it ?

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>>2614445
Obviously getting an actual celebrity will be near impossible but if you're speaking solely in terms of getting a high-end girl, then I can help with that. Ask away.

>>2614462
I don't want a celebrity, just better looking girls. Where do you find them ?

bbw experiences? are they clean

>>2614462
>getting an actual celebrity will be near impossible
Tbf, it's very possible. You just need to have connections. You either know Heidi Fleiss or you don't. The odds of finding that connection on 4chan are low.

>>2614445
yes, but within my country's circle, so no one you know about, unless you're into worldwide pageant winners
the first one was ridiculously expensive compared to what I pay girls nowadays but I was obsessed with her at the time and I just closed a huge deal so I had the money and I obliged
told her when we were done and putting back our clothes that I wanted to see her again but I wasn't willing to pay that much for her
she laughed and told me the usually charge that much for girls the first time because it's also kind of an entrance fee to the club of guys that get those girls, to know they're not horny guys who will run and tell afterwards but people with power to lose if word goes out
anyways, the next time we fucked it was for 1/4 of what I paid for her the first time and closer but still very high compared to normie escorts
she got tired of the madame that brought her to me because she was a two timing cheat that would charge guys a fee for the girl and a fee to the girl too
and that's not how things work around here, you either get a cut from the total given to the girl or a fee for bringing the girl to the guy but not both times.
and she started bringing me her model friends one by one for a fraction of the price I was paying the madame
I was young and fame obsessed so at the time I loved it, I fucked a couple of girls I always dreamed of fucking but only saw on runways or newspaper covers (yes, this story is around 20 years old)
but as time went on I discovered some of my strongest orgasms and best experiences were with newbies, new models, young friends of the models, etc etc
so I eventually turned to that, nowadays I fuck newbies almost exclusively, I think the last girl over 19 I fucked has been two years ago, and I fuck almost 1 new girl per week

Tangential, but it's still paying women to fuck, but where do you find chicks for OF content collabs without living in LA or NYC?

>>2614468
Well, gonna need some pic related

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>>2614464
If you want better looking mid-end has plenty anywhere around the $400-$700/hr range (assuming USA). 50/50 whether you'll have good service or not but they'll certainly meet your standard.

>>2614466
For the love of god do not pay for something you can get for free.

>>2612291
Jesus Christ I can't believe I'm in the same city as a degenerate like you. Going around fucking dozens of porosities raw.

Aren't you scared of catching something?

>>2610499
Sooner or later you will

>>2610499
caught the clap and the clam on separate occasions, and yeah it does suck ass. but they were treatable

Anyone have experience with escorts in Russia/Ukraine?
Prices, upselling, etc?

>>2606979
She blew me until I busted in her mouth. Got it all on film too. I love Japanese girls.

Anyone have a favorite AMP or AAMP in the Portland area?

>>2614468
>I fuck almost 1 new girl per week
how much do you pay them ?

>>2614487
Where do you find them ?

>>2614768
Hit up Tryst, just be careful not to fall for the obvious scam profiles using fake/AI pics. Deposits are very commonly required so the scammers try to steal your money the same way. Make sure the profile has plenty of socials/website and good reviews.

>>2614768
my country is affordable, not to the level of southeast asia but around the levels of brazil
right now I have a girl who's bringing me all her friends, all 18, for 50 bucks each plus 10 bucks for her.
converted to dollars it's ridiculous but in my local currency that's not bad money for an hour fucking with someone that treats you like a gf and not a fucktoy
I've been told I'm good as a first client because I ease them into this, some other dudes really mishandle the goods and then they don't want to do it anymore, so I've had the pleasure of being the first for many girls that are on rotation in my city currently.

>>2614786
>my country
What country are you talking about ?

>>2611395
I think if someone asks you to not be as rough, you probably shouldn't keep assraping them

>>2614803
no that's gay

Any anon ever fucked a hooker without condom? I’ve only fucked with condom so far, except when getting a blowjob. I recently found a liking towards Asian hookers and they all offer sex without condom and I feel tempted. Worth the risk?
>t.eruopoor

>>2614829
If they offer it to you, they offer it to everyone. If getting off is worth the risk of genital herpes is up to you.

>>2614803
>>2611395
She said to do whatever I want, listed off what i wanted, and green lit everything. Just recently she decided that I can't cum in her. So now she swallows or takes the load on her face.
>>2614805
+1, I'm not gay.

>>2614829
For all the times nothing goes wrong, it's worth it. But the one random time when something goes wrong, makes none of the times worth it--and that can happen on your very first time.

Assuming you're unvaccinated for HPV, you might not know until years/decades later that you picked up a bad strain of it, when it leads to cancer and you potentially detect it too late to fix it. Dead from dick cancer.

You could get antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea, and die in spite of early detection and attempts to treat it.

A lady could get herself knocked up on purpose, or birth-control could fail.

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>>2614829
I've only had condomless sex lately
but I only go for newbies
I would never do it with escorts or girls that work in brothels
but to get the contacts and people that get me newbies I've been mongering for more than 2 decades
so it might take time for you to get there
I remember once my condom broke with a hooker in a popular brothel in my city
I couldn't sleep that night thinking I had contracted AIDS and my days were numbered, lol
I had a test a couple days later and then another one 3 months later
I went there and told her all the results came clean and she laughed in my face
oh, to be 23 again...

>>2614934
Onlyfans has opened the flood gates. Used to be buying bags, material things but now with electronic payments it’s easy to get regular women for the right price

>>2614934
how did you find her?

>>2614934
Damn, I have an ex with that figure, she was 6'2 with a fat ass that was a joy to eat.

Question for you guys.
Planning a solo trip to Mexico. Any action there?
Do's and don'ts?
Or do you need to go to South East Asia countries? Philippines, Taiwan, Thailand, etc.

>>2615106
Tons of action for cheap. Especially if you don't want to do long flights to SEA. Depending on where and when you're going, the whores will probably also be busy with world cup tourists

>>2615116
>>2615116
Just standard resorts near Cancun or Riviera Maya

>>2613529
Have plenty of knowledge on the scene, can tell you some if still there. Try perutops as well and autotranslate

How do you guys convince girls to go raw? I have a massive breeding kink but its so hard to fulfill, i even offer to get tested. Its not like i'm some dysgenic 35 year old who never showers. I'm 22, 6'2" and go to the gym often
>>2610631
>>2612970
Know any good girls in the GTA?

>>2615296
It's probably the psycho eyes you make when you ask, and the inability to respect someone's wishes, even if they'll fuck you for money.

>>2615296
>How do you guys convince girls to go raw?
my wallet

>>2615330
How much do you pay? And how do you break it to them?

>>2615296
I built a reputation for years for it to happen, not going to lie
at 22 I don't think anyone would have let me go raw
but for the right price a lot of girls are willing to do it.

>>2615331
It obviously varies wildly, but double whatever their hourly rate is is the most you should offer. Typically if that's not enough then it's off the menu entirely (or not worth it)

>>2606961
Where do people post escort videos these days?

>>2615504
Erome I would assume

>>2615600
Or telegram groups. The famous SDAnon has been sharing his videos in tg group that used to be posted here before the op got banned and I've seen some twitter pages post previews of massage parlors, streetwalkers, and asian agencies with giant ass watermarks.

>>2615504
eporner is decent for the higher-quality ones.

>>2611694
>Some advice though is that no fap does work. Usually only takes about 2 weeks of not touching your dick to reset it.
You're very fucking lucky if you can get over ED in two weeks. I've been trying to quit porn for ten years for that very reason. Multi-month nofaps, months without watching it and my brain is still pretty broken. To be fair, can't expect to get over gooning your brains out from 13-26.

Started with street hookers around 2010. Enjoyed going to the city and driving laps on the particular streets until someone enticed me enough to stop. Lot of good and bad experiences and wide variety of punts. From the 18 year old with perfect firm D cups to the 70+ year old granny who initially chased me away because she thought I was underage. (RIP) There were hardened pros and regulars but also new girls every week, some maybe desperate for cash and you would only see them once, others maybe just for a week. Sadly police cracked down on it a few years later and it moved fully online. You could still find the one-off girls on Backpage but now that's gone too.

Saw a lot of cheap escorts from websites after that and then got into massages with HE, but that became quite expensive for what it was. Stopped punting at home now because the rates are stupid for someone on a low/average income.

Finally went to Thailand at the start of this year. Got first massage from ladyboy, really good massage. She's working on my legs and then hear a few slow slaps from one of the other cubicles. Assumed it was masseuse doing the back slap thing they do at the end of a massage. Then a few more and then giggle/moans. Realise what's going on and exchange looks and giggle with ladyboy while listening to another masseuse get pounded out. Not long later she's deep-throating me and then I fucked her on the table and she moaned like a ladyboy does, something akin to a honking Canadian goose. 10/10 would return.

/blog

>>2616127
ED is both physical and mental. Honestly this video does a good job explaining what is probably your causes and how to get over them, or at least give you more insight on why.

https://youtu.be/gWX1xuXAVw4?is=vFWz8v9lc_wc89Mv

>>2614776
How do you actually verify and get a good one?

they all ask for screening and personal info. I'm scared theyre cops and its a sting

know any reputable good ones around Chicago?

>>2616330
look up their name followed by review, theeroticreeview can tell you if its legit or not.
if there's no reviews you're taking a gamble, but its more likely you get deposit scammed than a cop.

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>>2616330
As a general rule, the bluer the state the less cops care. At a certain price point stings are impossible. A sting requires high arrest numbers to justify, they'll catch far more Johns at $100/hr vs $500/hr. Blue & expensive Chicago isn't going to waste their time running stings. Cops also won't waste their time with screening and deposits since that might turn off a potential John, thus reducing their arrest numbers. Tryst also requires some form of provider verification, so there's few if any LE on the site.

If you want a good girl, filter out all black/mixed girls (gonna nuke your numbers in Chicago LOL, but it's necessary), set $400/hr minimum and filter out any body type over Average. Tryst has recently been flooded with scammers. You can spot them easily. If their byline goes "great time" or "perfect time", or has no byline at all. Their bio reads like AI, full of em dashes. They have only one rate/only one phone number, have no website, socials nor reviews. Only have an OF link for their contacts. Make an acct, favorite profiles you know are real.

If they're touring, check their dates to make sure they're actually in your city first. Check for obvious signs of fraud like her age or weight (fat girl angles, wrinkles behind the face blur, hag body, shitty surgery). After all that, you should narrow down to a dozen or so. Should have a good website/active socials, reviews on TER, good variety of professional pics. Don't be afraid to follow all of their screening procedures, at the end of the day any blowback on you is also blowback on them. Many of these girls have lives beyond tricking, so discretion for them is a two way street.

This should put you well above 90% of the trash, but keep in mind that there's never a guarantee of a good time. I would say after doing all that, it's 50/50 whether you'll experience the chemistry to vibe with a girl or not. Don't be shy and be clear about what you want beforehand so they don't just starfish during sex.

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Pic related is pretty young. She's 24 and looks 19. The older we get the girls stay the same.
>>2615296
>How do you guys convince girls to go raw?
I never convinced her. Had a girl take it off herself when I was tired and couldn't get it up. No clue why as it was our first meet up(fellow hobbyist said maybe I looked clean enough for her). I was dressed pretty well coming in because I had a thing at work right before and wanted to nut after seeing a young subordinate of mine in a dress.
Ended up seeing her multiple times whenever she was in town.
We did have a few dinners here and there outside her work hours and she didn't want me to pay.

Make no mistake if shes going raw on you shes going raw on others. I had myself checked every 3 months when I was seeing her and I always came out clean luckily.

Genuinely what happens to hookers when they get old?
Saw a girl last night who was incredibly sweet and quite open and talkative. Shes 25 years old, no day job, says she spends $400 a week on weed and “likes to travel”. I’m assuming she’s just coasting on prostitution and probably gets booked a lot because she’s young and cute and petite but what happens when she hits her 30s and everything dries up? Idk, it makes me a bit sad because other girls I’ve seen had actual day jobs and just worked 1 day a week kind of got extra money

>>2615605
i would kill to be in that group. the original december 2024 run was truly divine

>>2616653
it depends on how soon the realization that this money is fleeting sinks on her or if she's delusional and thinks a 35 hooker can charge as much and get as many clients.
I know girls who were escorts and hookers at 18 and now have small thrift stores or sell stuff online
others have married and live with husbands
others are into drugs and have ascended into madames and pimps
it's a varied lot, not every girl is the same
funny because a lot of them have the same background (absent father, want easy money, have expensive tastes or expensive for their social class at least), but what they do afterwards varies greatly.

>>2616684
Just search "/mg/" or "monger" on sites that archive /hc/.

>>2610047
How did this convo start?

>>2616653
By far the most common outcome is they marry someone-- whether it's more of a sugar arrangement or just find some guy. It's ultimately the safest bet & there will always be someone out there who will go for it.

>>2616729
Bring up the prospect of a trip for some fun, something like this. Helps to have a legit profile not just random anonymous one.
sarah_githens

I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I suppose is worth a shot.

>Be me
>Have a boyfriend who enjoys overly sexualized characters.
>Mentions now and then how much money I could earn if I were to work in the streets due the way we fuck
>Is kinda hot
>Want to give him a surprise
>Want to dress like your stereotypical street hooker: high boots, fishnets, short top, small jacket. Heavy makeup.
>Go to the place covered in a coat.
>Ask him to pick me
>Do the whole "looking for a date, babe?" speech.

Now, questions:
- How do I tell other girls working in the area I'm not competing? Is it even a good idea to talk to them or should I hide in a corner / store until my bf comes?
- If a police were to question while we negotiate (specially because the intention is to me looking like looking for clients), what would be the best way to prove we're a couple and this is just a game?
- Do you think overall would be a nice surprise or there's a chance he would take it in a bad way?

>>2616827
this has to be a troll
if you're asking how safe it is to do something, it's probably not that safe
no one can tell you what might happen that day, it might be the chillest day ever and you can end up making a ton of friends among the streetwalkers
or you can end up with face altering skull fractures from some pimp with a metal cane
you can never know
there is always the high end escort route, that might be just as hot and safer
get him to rent a room
dress like a high end escort
knock his door
pretend he paid a lot for you so you're going to rock his boots off
the girl next door that is tight on money and only does this in emergencies or has never done it before is also a hot scenario

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>>2616653
They keep working, 30 isn't anywhere close to over for hookers. It's a whole different sexual marketplace in the big 2026. At least for the American market, the supply of genuinely tolerable working girls (not fat black streetwalkers or ESOL AMPs) is at an all time low due to online sex work diverting many who would otherwise become providers. Combine that with increasing rates of inceldom and any woman who's even moderately presentable will continue to get business well into their 40s. The market for MILFs is incredibly high, tons of boomers want to spend time with someone closer to their age instead of some airhead college kid.

Assuming they don't end up crippled from drug addiction, they'll either remain alone but with constant cash flow or will find some easy adult daycare job, start a business or marry someone who will take care of them. Impossible to lose as a woman in the 21st century no matter how vile the career choice. If they fail it's because they were incredibly lazy.

>In Mexico city with family for a few days
>My hotel room is right next to them
>Thought about sneaking out at night and getting one of the street walkers
>Don't want to deal with the same if I get found out paying for sex
>Settle for trolling on Mileroticos and sending messages through what's app, asking girls what their price is and seeing how vulgar I can be

A little late to consider, but I probably should have used a fake WhatsApp account.

Oh well, I'm planning a trip later with my friends so Ill probably hold off until then.

Do you guys try to set up for MSoG or just bust and kick them out?

>>2616340
Any recommendations for specific girls tho lol?

>>2616950
what is msog?

>>2617017
multiple shots on goal.

If you book an escort for an hour and msog isn't mentioned, once you pop, the session is over.

>>2616874
Not a troll, just figuring stuff before I get in big problems with police or pimps.

I feel the high end escort option is nice, but asking him to rent a room kinda defeats the point. The idea is asking him out for something more casual (let's go to the movies! Pick me in this place, I'm sending you my location) and see how it works from there. I don't want to change career, lol, and I'm aware if I screw I would end doing against my will. I just want to figure if there would many problems with other working girls.

>>2617037
why cant you just do it where there are no other potential streetwalkers lol, how common are they that this is a considerable factor. as for cops, nothing will happen unless hes standing right there hearing you say youll exchange services for money

>>2607472
pic related escorts?

>>2617038
Well, I was under the idea of him picking me in a place that's legit red district would add a bit of flavour, but in retrospective I suppose isn't worth the risk. Still want to go ahead with the rest.

>>2612883
that make no sense. she in high school but can just be with you whenever? nah

How do you even know who to ask? You just troll dating apps or Instagram and just ask to whoever you have interest in?

>>2616807
Whats the total cost look like? Is it a whole itinerary- you pay for activities, shows, etc for 3?
And whats on *your* IG?
Ever been burned in the agreement?

>>2610047
Is that 2K all-in, or 2K directly to them plus flights (first class?) and their hotels ($$$)?