Was Mao Zedong the most stupid modern leader?
he had neurosyphilis
>>18486946I think Mao understood that the Chinese nation was so backward because of the incessant conflicts & disruptions (warlord era, civil wars, world war), that he opted to start from square one. I think he knew his generation wouldn't had lived to see China prosper accordingly, and that his obsession was to temper them into one single uniform ruleset, even if that took him his entire life. Technically, Xi and the previous one before are second generation of Chinese to rule China and the first generation to have known peace. They're the first generation to not have known the Qing empire, nor the warlords, nor the world war. What comes after them, though? From Mao to Zemin/Deng, it took from 1949 to 2002 – that's 53-54 years. Arguably, Xi is the first one to entrench the second generation at the leadership and most likely to stay that way. Will that be another 50 years, until the third generation starts to crackle into leadership positions?
>>18486946I don't understand how commies can read shit like this and still hold onto their beliefs. Do they cope by saying it was all fake and made up by the CIA? Or do they cope by saying the CIA made Mao kill all the sparrows?
>>18487010To be fair, Nazis also had pseudo-collectivized farming when they came to power.It was still private property on paper, but the state decided how much to produce, which crop to produce and for what price it is sold to the state. The land couldn't be subdivided or sold. It would only be inherited by one person of the family (oldest male)It was essentially vulnurable to the same economic factors as the Soviet one, with the only positive factor that in Germany the farmers would get paid more for more produce, as it was still sold, if only to the state.Nevertheless, the Blood and Soil brought Germany to the brink of famine in 1938 (although self-sufficiency tariffs and import restrictions were as big of a factor) and essentially Mussolini had to save them, as farms in Italy stayed privately owned.Soviet Union = nationalized agriculture and industryNazis = nationalized agriculture, privatized industryFascists = privatized agriculture, nationalized industryMao Zedong = nationalized kitchen utensils (???)
>>18486946People talk about capitalism being soulless but communists are just as equally obsessed with making the line go up that they are willing to sacrifice the lives of tens of millions of the working class to achieve this.
>>18487010Leftists today celebrate Mao because he built the foundation of China, which is their best (and arguably final) shot at achieving socialism.
>>18487023Mao almost destroyed China. Deng built the foundation of modern China.
>>18487023China is just a (state) capitalist country that larps as marxist. Their relative success is entirely predicated on the fact that what they are doing is anything but socialism. But they will get right back to socialism once their productive forces are up to the task. Some day, maybe...
>>18487021Indeed. The saddest thing is they don't even do it for profit, but solely for prestige.Mao did all of that so that he could show the world how great China is compared to Britain. Why?
>>18487025Deng is not better than Mao. He participated and spearheaded many of great leap forward policies. He was the chief persecutor of political opponents in anti-rightist campaign (Mao had to slow him down)The only disaster Deng didn't spearhead was cultural revolution, and even that only because it targeted party members
>>18487029The idea is that once the productive forces in China are built up enough, the government will hit the “achieve socialism” button, nationalizing everything in the country, abolishing money, etc. They say 2050s is when this will happen.
>>18487036I am aware. Once we hit the 2050s they will just say that the material conditions dictate that China must do "market socialism" for another 100 years
>>18487037Why? The communist party already controls the big companies and they crush the rich in China whenever they get too powerful (see Jack Ma). There’s no one stopping them from nationalizing everything
>>18487038Jack Ma is a party member and he's back and engaging in private business again. This seems to be the spirit of chinese capitalism, you get punished for going against 'the party', but you can do anything you want as long as you don't challenge the 'party line'. The fact that he and many other billionaires are party members should tell you anything you need to know about chinese "communism".You must be a real rube if you think they're going to nationalize and abolish money. China is addicted to state capitalism and has 0 signs of stopping. It's also difficult to find anything supporting the idea that they're even promising to pull the stops on any of this, since all that Xi has said is that by 2050 China will be a "prosperous socialist nation" or some such. The idea that the chinese do not consider what they are doing to be socialism, or that they are going to change course, is just western marxoid cope. The CCP thinks socialism is just social democracy with a centralized government.
>>18487010It will work next time, trust the plan, two more weeks
>>18487266Communists are the original plan trusters
>>18487036Imagine still falling for this shit and not committing suicide immediately
>>18486946China would be fucking India-tier if his son didn't die during the Korea War and Deng didn't take over lmao.Arguably even fucking worsehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DPCI8ICoWs
>>18486946No, it was Hitler. >>18485539
>>18487010Because ''kill all the sparrows'' doesn't stem from Communist Ideology
>>18487257They literally disappeared and tortured him for months, what more do you want? Billionaires exist in China today but the government could take all their wealth at any moment
>>18487649Mao was to the left of Marx. He was even proud he didn't read him.But lower cadres like Deng who were just as responsible did read him.
>>18487010Commie historians spent the entire 2000s dishonestly fabricating a history of similar atrocities in capitalist nations and honestly they’ve been pretty successful at tricking retards into believing them. If you’re actually familiar with history outside online memes though you’d know that there truly is nothing in a liberal capitalist country that was comparable to the shit that people like Mao or Pol Pot did.
>>18487717I heard that 10 million Russians died in the shock therapy in 1990s. But I don't know how true that is, very little information.
>>18487537Just two more weeks.
