Did he actually see a cross in the sky or is it just propaganda?
He saw an opportunity to abandon his people and his ancestors and he took it, like all Judeo-derived rats.
>>18487206Propaganda, next question.
>>18487206Constnatine abandoned Christianity and worshipped Sol Invictus before dying.
>>18487206He didn't see a cross in the sky, he saw a Chi-Rho
Constantine the traitor. Constantine, the man who enslaved the White race to the jews.
>>18487222No it was the other way around. All emperors associated themselves with a God. Even Augustus associated himself with Apollo. Aurelian may have been the first to use Sol Invictus. But Constantine had already associated himself with Sol Invictus, Apollo, and maybe even Mars before he recognized the one true God.
No one is ever going to take neopaganism seriously. A neopagan right-wing movement is dead in the water, because people are just going to see it for the LARP that it is. It's hard enough to make people follow the religion that was the majority just a few decades ago, imagine trying to convince the average normie to sacrfice to Apollo. Imagine explaining that to your grandpa. Lmao.
>>18487263Well those things were the norm for thousands of years before Christianity
>>18487263Animal sacrifice by the 4th century was already unpopular to pagans in the Mediterranean and had declined massively even in the century before. They were considered too “messy” and most people had begun to prefer solely bloodless sacrifices that didn’t involve killing animals.Also, most sacrifices don’t take the form of animals anyways. There are different degrees and levels of offerings and sacrifices. Incense and votive offerings were commonly used throughout pagan Europe. Germanic archeological sites are usually littered with golden figurines buried as sacrifices. Germans made sacrifices of everything really including swords and flags looted from enemies. The Romans often made offerings of oatcakes with butter along with frankincense to Jupiter.
>>18487497They became empty rituals and ceremony. Greek philosophy killed the old gods.It doesn't matter anyway, nobody even knows what the eleusinian mysteries were outside of something to do with Demeter and Persephone. If anyone is still practicing them it would have been on Epstein Island reenacting the rape of Persephone.
>>18487497You don't live thousands of years ago, you live in the 21st century. Julian the Apostate had little success when paganism was still fresh in people's memories, what hope do you have today, when people struggle to believe in any god at all, and when pagan deities are more often associated with fantasy novels and video games? No one will ever take you seriously
>>18487206propaganda, he had also claimed to have seen Jupiter in the sky before another battle he won
>>18487519>They became empty rituals and ceremony. Greek philosophy killed the old gods.Nice quads but this is a late Christian piece of propaganda that flies in the face of what both pagans and early Christians said. Early Christian were extremely concerned with genuine religious devotion to the pagan gods, by both commoners and the elites, they fully believed that people not only worshipped them fervently but that there were real divine beings receiving those prayers. They explicitly said that demons were receiving pagans' sacrifices and giving them oracles, e.g. Justin Martyr around 150 AD.Pagan intellectuals explicitly defended common religious practices. Celsus' book against Christianity was a learned polemic by a Platonist, which defends the reality of the Olympian gods and figures like Heracles. Porphyry of Tyre was called the most learned of all the pagan philosophers by Augustine, and he defended public religion, consulting oracles, and so on.It's a false idea that there were was a hard dividing line between the stupid masses who believed in the gods and the elites who thought it was all nonsense. In the 2nd century AD you can see Pliny the Younger and Celsus genuinely concerned that Christians not worshipping the gods will lead to disaster as the empire would lose divine favour and social cohesion, which were inextricably intertwined in the "pagan" worldview.>muh mystery cults Those initiations only were relevant for specific mystery cults, not the popular religion as a whole or the philosophical schools.They weren't needed to practice the religion, or to do offerings and the religions was not the mystery cults, those were just optional offshoots
>>18487589>>18487519Forgot pic mb
All who despise Constantine the Great and Sol Invictus are the false Jews of the Bible. All who wish to betrothe humanity to demon worship are the false Jews of the Bible. All who claim to be Jews, yet are Semitic and not Christian, are the false Jews of the Bible. All who claim to worship God, yet do not acknowledge or follow Him, are the false Jews of the Bible. All who claim to be either Jews or Christians while maintaining hedonism in their lives and hearts are the false Jews of the Bible. You overtly worship goats, demons, and bulls. You overtly excuse sodomy, apostasy, and murder. You overtly hate your brothers, you covet, and you lie. The narrow door will be locked to you who attempt to enter, because of your own chosen hatefulness and greed and arrogance. You despise God, and so he lets you be cast back into the unmade Oblivion. You are no more than a speck of dust on God's foot, and he shall wipe you off as though you were nothing. You are the older brother of the parable of the prodigal son. All you who hate shall perish. I have tried and tried to convince you. I have tried to be your friend. I have even tried to impress you. You do not care. You do not share in my empathy. You have not given your hearts away to listen to truth. Reconcile that you are done. I say this as I pass my previous meal. You are worth that respect.
Today is actually his feast day in the orthodox church. Amazing how these demon inspired weirdos made this thread today
>>18487232>>18487210>>18487497The romans killed all the Celtic druids. Those faggots got what was coming
>>18487519Tired of this meme. The Neoplatonist redditors were not representative of the entire population of the Greco-Roman world. If jeets in 2026 still believe that elephant shit can cure them from disease then it’s not unreasonable to assume that rural Romanjeets still believed in their gods during the bloody Iron Age.
>>18487618What a coincidence.
>>18487626>The Neoplatonist redditors were not representative of the entire population of the Greco-Roman worldTbf you could also make the same argument with Christianity or any religion really. Historically most Christians weren’t intellectuals like Augustine or Thomas Aquinas, they were superstitious peasants who took every Bible story at face value and believed black cats to be demons. Yeah the church may have denounced witch burnings and declared that witches weren't real, but that didn't stop your average peasant from believing their neighbor was a witch working for Satan because she looked at him funny for 0.5 seconds.
>>18487647Yep tells me that is actually is a saint.
>>18487206Eusebius is our main source on the conversion of Constantine to Christianity. Two panegyrics of Constantine have been preserved, and they make no mention of Christianity. Instead, one contains the story of a vision Constantine had of the sun-god Apollo, “with Victory accompanying him.” From then on, Constantine placed himself under the protection of Sol invictus, also called Sol pacator on some of his coins. What Eusebius writes in his Life of Constantine about the battle of the Milvian Bridge is obviously a rewriting of that earlier pagan legend. When marching on Rome to overthrow Maxentius, Constantine “saw with his own eyes in the heavens a trophy of the cross arising from the light of the sun, carrying the message, ‘by this sign, you shall win’.” The following night, Christ appeared to him in his dream to confirm the vision. Constantine had all his troops paint the sign on their shields and won the battle. Eusebius describes the sign as the Greek letters Chi and Rho superimposed, and tells us it represents the first two letters of Christos. This Chi-Rho sign is found in a great variety of mosaic and reliefs up to the time of Justinian, and it is especially common in the Pyrenean region, often with the addition of a sigma, as documented in this monography. Some hypothesize that it carried in pagan time the meaning pax. Whether that is the case or not, there is no evidence that the Chi-Rho was of Christian origin.
>>18487542Im not a pagan but the ball was rolling in the 20th century in germany and if things had gone differently some kind of pseudo-gnostic neopaganism would certainly have been dominant in europe, it is inarguable, those who argue this fact are copinghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jmZKIqLcaeU
>>18487666>666uh.. why did the number of the beast crop up just as you said that
I think apollo is cool and don't know why he would pretend to like Christ instead
>>18487707Because Constantine was actually the anti christ, but /his/ isn’t ready for that conversation
>>18487707That is weird
>>18487206It was real, chud.
>>18487716go on
>>18487263You’re overlooking a far more fundamental point that it isn’t even genuine at all. There is no spiritual belief behind it. It’s just because these people know atheism is civilisational cancer but think Christianity is too brown and gay and so try to “invent” their own religion based off fragments of ancient sources we still have. You cannot invent a religion. A religion is a true, lived belief in response to the supernatural. Any man that tries to “revive” paganism is ousting himself as functionally, an atheist. A true post Christian religion would be searching to understand the divine as we see it today. Not pretending to be ancient Hellenes or Celts or whatever. To have a faith, you need faith behind it funnily enough.
>>18487777Quads don't lie.
>>18487716True. However, he was *the* antichrist but merely *an* antichrist.
>>18487777Surprisingly these faggots aren't pantheists. Why regress to paganism?
>>18487806>Implying polytheism and pantheism are incompatible
>>18487813It isn't. Pantheism is a representative of psychism/monism. Polytheism is dualistic retardation for morons who play fairy tale dress-up. One is compatible with no only monotheism, but Christianity. The other believes Zeus and aliens will show up on the whitehouse doorstep with Lucifer to bring about le golden age of Lemurian technology. Pantheism is Aronofsky's The Fountain, polytheism is the Marvel Cinematic Universe - so to speak, in layman's.
>>18487841>Never heard of Platonism or Stoicism award
>>18487874Neither of those are polytheistic philosophies, genius. They are monistic philosophies.
>>18487963Completely wrong
>>18487263>>18487777Nobody who makes these arguments makes them in good faith btw.
>>18487963>Implying polytheism and monism are incompatible
>>18488651They are
>>18488647Yeah, that's why they're called LARPagans.
>>18489006Less than 30 people on the planet actually believe that jesus nonsense. Please stop lying and just admit it.
>>18488896They are not. Monotheism explicitly rejects other gods while monism allows the existence of multiple gods, viewing them all as aspects or faces of a singular divine principle. If you think Monism is monotheism, then you have to believe that Hinduism is monotheist since it’s a monist religion
>>18487263Im literally having friends and family by for a spring celebration where we will take turns pouring libations and reading orphic and homeric hymns.>burning incense is too hard!>pouring libations is too hard!This is what you sound like you christian dork
>>18489074That’s platonic retardation. Originally deities were different and seperate
>>18487206It was a Chi Rho and he really saw it in a dream
>>18487206he saw that
