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Why was judeochristian imperialism and divide et impera particularly successful in MENA?

I find it particularly amusing because here in Pakistan we have fsr more legitimate and organic ethnicities than whatever these Arab Christians claim to be (the Phoenician larp some Lebanese do is particularly hilarious)

For example I'm Punjabi and we could totally demand our little Ethnostate in central Pakistan but no Pakistani ethnicity does that because we see ourselves as Pakistani first and Punjabi, Sindhi, Baluch, Pashtun or any other ethnicity second
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>>18487517
>I'm Punjabi
you have my condolences for your mental disability.
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>>18487520
Racism is not funny sir
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>>18487525
racism?
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>why do victims of genocide want to rise against their oppressors?
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>>18487627
What???
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>>18487517
Still having an izzat attack Bheria mate? How's the Quranism going, still praying three times a day yeah?
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>"Timetraveling Israelis created every MENA christian sect o algo assim"
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>>18487911
those dasterdly britishers gave me diarrhea again
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>>18487517
>no Pakistani ethnicity does that
Baluchistan has an insurgency/independence movement though? And Waziristan did for a while though I think it's been crushed
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>>18487954
no Pakistani ethnicity does that (without judeochristian imperialist intervention)*
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>>18487848
Why does Bheriabro keep saying judeochristian that's an oxymoron
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>>18487517
the cia doesnt create anything, they just exploit existing minorities
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>>18487983
Yes the Baluchi separatism is literally israeli and indian astroturf
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Judeochristian Arabs larping as phoenician and assyrian are extremely hilarious and you can see how their entire personality revolves around their respective larps and hating their fellow Arabs. Absolute buckbroken people
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>>18488064
pakistan is a britisher astroturf saar
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>>18487993
Because they are literally one and the same, one difference is that one is the master and the other one the golem
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>>18487627
Are you talking about palestinians?
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>>18487517
Because not all MENAs outside of Arabia want to be Arab. This kind of infighting is also the reason why the Gulf States would rather import tens of millions of Jeets rather than giving asylum to a handful of Palestinian refugees.
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>>18487517
I dunno about that man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separatist_movements_of_Pakistan
There’s a lot. Plus the MENA region has a lot of tribalism, ethnic strife, sectarian, and religious tensions that predate the discovery of North America by Europeans. This is a lot older than America, and Israel is arguably just one more faction there. Literally anyone could divide and conquer under those conditions though. The ottomans did it, the Romans did it, every random European empire did, the Mongolians did it for about ten minutes, and so on. First place on earth to develop what we think of as civilization. None of what I’ve said is at all unique to the MENA region, but when you’ve got beef that started under the fucking Assyrians? That’s a problem.
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>>18488073
assyrians but yea them too
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>>18488300
There are obvious organic ethnicities in the MENA region like Berbers, Luris, Marsh Arabs and Kurds but the likes larping as phenishun or ASSyrian just because they worship a nailed rabbi instead of Allah are laughable and obviously british and french made psyops as divide et impera
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>>18487517
>I'm Punjabi
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>>18488065
Assyrians and Arabs don’t look alike though, Assyrians look like meds while Arabs look like jeets.
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>why was Divide and Conquer tactics successful in a region that never shared a common identity or was never united under a common denominator for centuries.
Literally it.

>What about Pakistan
Your country was a post-colonial construct built on the idea of a "Muslim homeland" for subcontinental Muslims there. And even that has its own issues because the country is squatting on lands that already had their own pre-existing cultures that predate Pakistan, like the Pashtuns and the Balochs.
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>>18489957
????Almost every syrian and iraq Arab Muslim is physically indistinguishable from the judeochristian Arabs larping as an extinct depraved bronze age people

And no afroasiatic looks ""med"" (IE germanic settlers in european mediterranean such as visigothics (spanish) or lombards (italians))
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>>18490007
>common identity
Arabic identity and Muslim to a lesser degree sir, the British colonial administration made up meme identities like phenishun and ASSyrian as divide and conquer tactics, a fun fan too they even tried this with marsh arabs claiming they wuz sumerians but the marsh arabs bought none of this and told them to fuck thanks to their Muslim faith

British didn't try to pull this off with Palestinians trying to convince they wuz hebrews and shiet because the goal was to ethnic cleanse them and infest theor country with eastern european jewish squatters anyway
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>>18488680
See, now I admit I’m curious as to how you define these things. What’s the delineation between a real and an artificial group? The abrahamic religions all started in this region, and all three main branches not only are still practiced there, but have a boatload of often ancient sects. That isn’t even counting some of the really ancient stuff like the Zoroastrians. Unless you mean purely ethnic groups which IIRC gets confusing because religion, culture, and ethnicity help define each other. I get that you don’t seem to think highly of Jews and Christians, but they both originated in that region and saying that the French created the Coptic Church isn’t really possible. I think the problem is that these underlying fault lines are deeper here than probably anywhere else on earth. There are clay tablets from Mesopotamia that are just them shit talking Iranian tribesman and Anatolian nomads. For context this predates bronze in Western Europe. They were already trading with the Indus Valley civilization and bickering with Semitic herders when the ancestors of the French and British learned that metal was cool. If you wanted a better situation to exploit for the sake of conquest I couldn’t imagine it. What we see today just looks like a continuation of that.
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>>18490046
I mean identities who have developed and existed naturally over the years. And I did not mention the coptic egyptians because they indeed are a natural organic ethnic group, there are several organic judeochristian ethnicies in the region such as armenians, georgians, pontic greeks, copts, etc...

Nobody ever since the Persian conquest of the mashriq called themselves phoenician or assyrian, these are people that went extinct by the bronze age and in the XIX century the british has decided to made this label to the judeochristians of lebanon and aljazira as divide et impera in a rise of panarab nationalism which ironically was created by judeochristian arabs themselves, completely absurd to think judeochristians arabs are the same extinct pagan peoples who wrote in cuneiform and worshipped ishtar just because of a different religion

The wonders of XIX nationalistic delulu
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>>18490026
>Arabic identity
>Islam
It means jack-shit in the end when most of the countries who adhere to it are too busy fucking each other over, are more interested in upholding their own regional identities over the rest and are disinterested in working together and uniting into a single country.

>muh Assyrians etc
Many of those regional identities had existed in the region even before the advent and spread of Arabic Culture and influence in the region. If your griping over the fact that there's an extreme few of them who larps as some pre-modern civilization, it's no different from some Paki or a South or Southeast Asian larping as a heckin Islamic Crusader. But to deny them because your made-up Middle Eastern fanfic of Pan-Arab or Islamic unity clashes with reality and painting them as artificial creations created in recent history makes you look pathetic.
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You seem very knowledgeable Pakistani Bro. I like reading some of your posts



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