>loses elction>kills 10 million russiansBased?
>>18487701So exactly what the usa and NATO do?>Pro American/NATO candidate loses election like in Romania most recent example or every single election in Latin American history >Start a coup or a colour revolution killing thousands of innocents and instituting brutal regimes that kill even moreAt least Lenin did it to protect Communism, americans do it because they are evil bastards
>>18487701He was a zuttslut
>>18487732>At least Lenin did it to protect Communism,1-800-Come-The-Fuck-On
>>18487701>conquers 90% of the entire Russian Empire in your pathTerrible man for the survival of the species but arguably one of the greatest warlords of all time, Genghis couldn't even conceive conquering that much land in like 4 years then maintaining it for the next 70
>>18487701>Italy and France democratically are going to become communist >America and England>” well, I guess I need to rig the elections and fund former Nazis to prevent this “
>>18487773Norwood status?
>>18487701>no you can't just rebel against politicians who break all their campaign promises, you have to let them serve out their terms and frog-march you to death in Germany!
>>18487825What the hell are you talking about?
>>18487829The reasons the Bolsheviks rebelled?
>>18487825>I lost election therefore it's UNFAIR! BILLIONS MUST DIE!
>>18487701>gains political power>"hehe take THIS!">orders his goons to murder the Romanov family, including the children, in cold blood>Visits a factory>gets shot by some jewish foid>spends the remainder of his few pathetic years alive in miserable agony and in a vegitative state pissing and shitting himselfKarma?
>>18487858Russians were dying en masse under the provisional government for clay and didn't want to do that that anymore.Politicians exist to serve the people, and the people wanted peace, land, and bread. If the politicians refused to deliver that, the people had every right to find other politicians who would - there isn't some kind of sacred right to serve out your term independent of what the public actually wants.
>>18487974>The people want peace and bread >Therefore we will institute a totalitarian regime that will lead to mass murder and starvation
>>18488150you can't argue with tankies, they're braindead
>>18487974Russian anon here. I’m dirt poor, but I’m ready to bash your commie-rot skulls in with a hoe. You conned the poor with your bullshit about universal equality, and then you killed millions of those same poor people by stealing their grain and starving them to death. Illiterate peasants were thrown into prisons on absurd charges of colluding with foreign intelligence. You destroyed free speech and criticism, bred a parasitic class of nomenklatura bureaucrats, and locked people inside Sovok, stripping them of any chance to leave - something even Putin doesn’t do. Fuck, you could write entire volumes detailing the sheer, unadulterated malice of the reds. So go fuck yourself!
>>18487873He was murdered by a jew?
>>18488154Bruh you have one of the sanest leaders in Europe
>>18488214Yeah, killing hundreds of thousands of men amid demographic crisis and crashing your economy for a few villages in Ukraine is totally sane
>>18488276Well I mean in general
>>18487732yeah tell us more about all the ongoing brutality in Romania lmaoOh nnnnoooo not the EU membership and EU money nnnooo!!
>>18487732Never forgat rumanans killled by HATO imperialistsim
>>18487974> Politicians exist to serve the peopleThat’s not something the Bolsheviks believed in, they believed in Marxist revolution and forced communism
>>18488324But there's gays in the television. That's worse than communist occupation
>>18487825>Bolsheviks promised land to peasants >steal peasants land instead
>>18488197https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_Kaplan
>>18488384there's no contradiction, communism is simply the masses of the people pursuing their objective class interests and revolution the necessary means to bring it about (if you could just vote out the bourgeoisie, the Russians would have done so - indeed, they tried to do so, judging by the election results, but the bourgeoisie invited foreign powers to launch a civil war instead).
>>18488451In 1914 Russian Empire peasants owned 90% of all arable land in Russia. They bought it with their labor on free market over 1861-1914 period. Then commies came and stole their land in 1929.How communism and revolution is "peasants persuing their objective class interests?" They were just duped with populist slogans and turned into feudal serves again by dictatorship of Bolsheviks.
>>18488154
>>18488460>I don't like market price I better rob farmers Well Stalin's profession was literally a bandit.
>>18488460The only people starving were the ones who Stalin stole grain from.
>>18488436They did give it to them briefly
>>18488458>In 1914 Russian Empire peasants owned 90% of all arable land in Russia. They bought it with their labor on free market over 1861-1914 period. Then commies came and stole their land in 1929.That is not true, only 20% of peasants held private land.Lenin literally won because he promised land redistribution and end to war. This and only this is why he won
>>18488499>That is not true, only 20% of peasants held private landThat's literally. True. Bolsheviks literally lie about history.>le land for peasants!90% of arable land was on private property of the peasants (who had personal freedom since 1861).Then in 1929 commies started "collectivisation" that was essentially feudal serfdom 2.0. Land goes into manor (kholhoz) and peasants are prohibited to leave manors land without permission or manors lord (kolkhoz's chairman).Soviet peasants got same citizens rights only 1974 when they start receiving internal passports as towns citizens and could move out without land lord permission (then 16 years after USSR collapsed because no food).
>>18488493Peasants already omwed land.There were some disturbition to peasants of non peasants land (aristocracy land, state and clergy) but these lands were only 10% of all arable land in 1914 in RE it didn't change anything.
>>18488520>90% of arable land was on private propertyThis doesn't mean 90% of peasants owned it! It was split among only 20% of the peasants!
>>18488520Obviously, collectivization was trash, as in Russia, as in Yugoslavia, China, and even Germany in 1938
>>18488460>GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING GRAIN WE HAVE TO SELL SOMETHING TO OUR WESTERN PARTNERS BECAUSE I'M A BROKE BITCH
>>18488527Former serfs owned their land in collectivist form since tsarist times. The only peasants who privately owned land non-noble landowners who rented it or paid poorer peasants to work it
>fail your coup attempt>mald out so hard you get 100 million europeans killedwhat do we think?
>>18489325If Kaiser just pulled a Nicholas II move and kept Hitler in prison forever instead of 2 years (!!), this wouldn't happen
>>18487732>1 (one) picture of Lenin with 3 (three) lines of text>immediate tankie seethe about USA and NATO in the first sentence of the first replylmao when will you guys learn that you can read all the theory in the world but you'll still sound like a retard to normal people if you're obnoxious and predictable?
>>18487746Most of it is empty
>>184884511. Marxism is bullshit, so everything you said is wrong 2. The masses did not desire their Marxist bullshit, they just wanted bread but the communist scum took advantage of them to bring destruction and tyranny.
>>18489325You're obsessed.
>>18487732>Using chemical weapons on peasants and causing a famine was to protect communismPretty sure it was to protect Lenin's 9 rolls royces and his mansion
>>18489412WITH WHOM???? WITH WHOOOOOM?
>>18488520One point to note, collectivization was largely unnecessary in Russia because communal farming had been the form there for centuries. This is something Marx, and even Lenin acknowledged.Soviet bureaucrats were upset that Ukrainian farmers were successful private farmers traditionally, and explicitly condemned their individualistic culture.
>>18489367Conquer a landmass containing 136 million people then we'll talk
>>18489501McDonald's has conquered more than any. But you're not ready for that conversation
>>18489553>non sequiturYou took Super Size Me too seriously, it happens to the best of us. You'll graduate high school one day
>>18489578Reddit
>>18487750true