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Why didn't God leave video evidence of the resurrection?

>Cameras didn't exist

He is God he could have just made a read only hard drive on one of those crystal plates that last a quintillion years.
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because it's a metaphor you retard
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>>18488510
Jesus was a schizo with a God complex, not an actual God
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>>18488537
>accusation from a narcissist is a confession
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>>18488510
Cause he wasn't God. He was a con man.
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There must be a reason behind it that we dont understand yet.
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>>18488586
So why doesn't God explain it to us?
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>>18488510
If he gave you the proof that he existed, you wouldn't have the free will to have faith in him anymore. The test of this life is faith.
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>>18488601
>If he gave you the proof that he existed, you wouldn't have the free will to have faith in him anymore
Then why does he violate that free will over and over in the bible by doing magical shit that people can see?
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>>18488616
there's no proof that any of this happened, are you ragebaiting or believe but are too buttblasted to admit it to yourself?
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>>18488616
People didn't believe him even when they saw what he was doing. They were sinful and blind just like you.
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>>18488601
>Jesus on earth and his disciples do tons of miracles to get people to believe in him
>Can we have some miracles for people today?
>No that would violate free will o algo
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why do midwits get obsessed this hard over shit that doesn't matter?
God isn't anything in particular, it's just a mere red herring, something that's not a thing and most important thing at the same time, an ultimate Ligma test for narcissism, by something that has no shape or form or essence or true being in Universe being the most important and ultimate reason of everything becoming the primary object of your life, you can do anything in the Universe. That's all it really is.
And sure, you could say I am denying God right now, but feel free to explain it better, if you can.
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>>18488601
You are supposed to believe things for no reason? Sounds insane like an insane and unitelligble worldview.
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>>18488640
The reason is to focus on stuff that matters, like finding a maiden for procreation you worthless incel.
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>>18488639
God is a meme. Therefore God does exist. But as a meme, not an actual being
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>>18488646
You have no idea how right and wrong you are at the same time. You meme things that you cannot internalize. Like a parrot repeating human sounds without knowing what they mean.
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>>18488640
If you learn about god with humility and an open heart, you will see why you should believe in him.
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>>18488626
>there's no proof that any of this happened
Do you believe it happened? If you do, you have to explain the inconsistency.
>>18488627
>People didn't believe him even when they saw what he was doing.
Then why doesn't he reveal himself? That also contradicts the claim that he does it to "protect free will".
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>>18488654
>you will see why you should believe in him
This is denying the need for faith by implying that you can acquire objective knowledge of god's existence thus being functionally the same as OP's request for clear proof, just with more steps.
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>>18488658
If you believe something then you don't need an explanation.
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>>18488661
We have objective knowledge of God's existence.
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>>18488661
You need faith to be humble and have an open heart.
>>18488658
He came to the earth because he was preparing it for salvation.
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>>18488662
>If you believe something then you don't need an explanation.
You do when you make claims such as "accessible proof would violate free will" when the events one is supposed to freely choose to believe in happen to involve other people witnessing direct proof.
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>>18488667
>You need faith to be humble and have an open heart.
It's other way around, all humans have faith except most mentally and physically disabled retards who aren't even human but vegetables taking up beds in hospitals. Not sure if it even matters when your brain isn't functioning properly though.
>>18488670
You witness direct proof of God daily and yet you don't seem to be convinced. It's not my or God's job to save you, idiot.
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>>18488666
>We have objective knowledge of God's existence.
So where's the video of the resurrection as OP requested, or similar proof?
>>18488667
>You need faith to be humble and have an open heart.
So you don't get to actually know for sure, you just trust in stuff that someone else said.
>He came to the earth because he was preparing it for salvation.
Regardless, the story involves him deliberately doing all sorts of magical hocus pocus in front of people, therefore the claim that he must now hide himself because of "free will" is contradictory.
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>>18488666
On what evidence do you assert this?
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>>18488672
>You witness direct proof of God daily
Where? Can you point me to the nearest demonstration of god casting spells?
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>>18488677
>doing all sorts of magical hocus pocus in front of people
He was doing it because he wanted to do it. He was not doing it to impress people.
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>>18488682
You're so retarded it's a miracle you don't forget to breathe. You possibly did this for years. At this point it's not a statistical anomaly, but God keeping you alive.
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>>18488672
They have faith in their senses, not in God.
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>>18488698
retard
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>>18488702
Your arrogance is showing. That's a sign of lacking faith.
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>>18488707
That's rich coming from a narcissist who questions God of all things.
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Technically you can question God and arrive at objective truth without getting jaded or stuck up in your own ass but it's a commandment because midwits will undoubtedly fall into one of a million traps waiting for their lil narc brain.
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>>18488712
I don't believe in the dictator manchild god who can't take questions like you do.
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>>18488672
>It's not my or God's job to save you, idiot.
Biblically false. Enjoy hell!
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>>18488714
If you don't believe this thing in particular, why do you keep adding adjectives that have no relation whatsoever to the topic at hand?
>>18488715
You don't know what Hell is. And yes, I actually enjoy you burning in Hell right now. Nowhere does the Bible say that I cannot enjoy you suffering so I don't have to.
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These kinds of schizo samefag threads are the reason why we need the enjoy hell poster.
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>>18488718
yea well maybe you should stop samefagging, I accept your concession lol
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>>18488689
>He was doing it because he wanted to do it. He was not doing it to impress people.
Cool, still contradicts the claim that he can't do it because it violates free will.
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>>18488727
God could miraculously make you not a mouthbreathing retard but then my humility wouldn't be tested in this gay ass retarded "debate" where I pretend that you're a human like myself and all of this would be meaningless now stop bitching and make a real argument you spastic faggot.
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>>18488716
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO ALL I DID WAS DISOBEY MATTHEW 28:19-20 OUT OF SLOTH AND PRIDE HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
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>>18488728
>stop bitching and make a real argument
There is an argument being discussed which you might notice if you stop bleeding from your vagina for a moment and read the thread. Someone made the argument that god cannot give proof because it would violate free will. I'm pointing out that this is contradictory, as the events being asked to be proven were themselves witnessed by people, and their free will becoming biased upon supposedly witnessing magic wasn't accounted for.
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>>18488732
You're asking why God won't understand for you and getting mad at the answer. Why don't you try killing yourself instead?
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>>18488728
Honestly, you're showing signs of demonic possession.
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>>18488743
Honestly, I'm just trolling via divine intervention today.
t. God
P.S. Enjoy Hell.
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>>18488510
Religion is naturally insidious because of the way it maps to your psyche.
>We are a subject split by language
>We are fallen from god
>God functions as the big other (symbolic authority that guarantees meaning)
>Christianity organizes desire around prohibition: law appears, desire appears, guilt appears, confession appears , cycle restarts.
>Suffering is integrated into a symbolic narrative through Christ suffering is no longer random and chaotic it's meaningful
>Mediates surplus enjoyment(lacan) chiefly through the distance between you and heaven (cannot reach in this lifetime but you are promised to reach the BEST place) this generates healthy sustained desire.

Christianity and probably other religions solves for mostly everything to generate meaning. Once you understand the structure around lack and desire it becomes extremely obvious how and why religion formed and why it's not real.
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Holy shit guys, God just posted, screencap this thread fr fr no cap
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>>18488746
such a midwitted take on all points
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>>18488736
>You're asking why God won't understand for you
No, I'm asking something pretty straightforward: if you argue that god won't give proof because it violates free will, then why do you believe he did it in front of other people, thus influencing their decision all the same? I'm asking you to pick a lane. Either god never does anything magical in front of people to respect free will, or that aspect doesn't matter, meaning he could drop resurrection.webm in this very thread if he chose to. Which one is it?
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>>18488761
Giving you proof would violate free will, yes.
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>>18488762
Cool then god violated the free will of everyone who supposedly witnessed all the magic stuff in the bible?
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>>18488763
no, you can easily dismiss them as hallucinating or whatever, not proof of anything
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>>18488543
Jesus was definitely a narcissist too
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>>18488791
You're definitely a narcissist pulling accusations out of your ass. Read the Bible, moron.
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>>18488762
But you don't have freewill on what you believe anyways. I can't not believe the sky is blue.
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>>18488857
>reddit gaytheist never saw pitch black, green, red, yellow, orange, pink, purple, white, gray, beige, dark blue... sky, he only ever saw blue sky
yea and next you will tell me you only ever saw it in google's stock photos cause not like you'd be willing to leave your mommy's basement to experience life lol, I suppose in your condition, faith isn't necessary
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>>18488864
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt here. I was presenting it simply, I believe the sky can be other colors because I have directly experienced it.

I believe in Australia because there are maps and videos and documentation of the place, animals from there, people, culture, accents. Even though I've never been to Australia I believe it exists and this is not a choice I am making. When presented with sufficient evidence you must believe in the implication of that evidence.

I have tons of evidence of things falling to the ground when you throw them in the air. So I believe and can't do otherwise that I should not walk off a cliff.

I don't believe there is a teapot floating between the orbit Mars and Jupiter because there is no evidence of that and I can't choose to believe it.

God could give me evidence beyond a doubt that he is real and it would still be a choice whether or not to actually follow Christianity so I don't see the problem with God giving humanity some solid proof.
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>>18488891
"Christianity" is mentioned in the Bible a total of 0 times.
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>>18488932
Okay then it would still be a choice to follow "what the Bible says" even if I had proof it was all true and God was real.
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>>18488943
ok but you believe in Christianity so nothing else needs to be proven, well played
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>>18488964
No I don't
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>>18489009
then why bring it up? It has nothing to do with the Bible or God
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>>18489018
You are getting off track.

>God could give me evidence beyond a doubt that he is real and it would still be a choice whether or not to actually follow [Whatever the fuck you want to call it] so I don't see the problem with God giving humanity some solid proof.
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>>18489035
Ah I see, a midwit reddit gaytheist (easily identifiable by a label) is real afraid that an universal faith, one that is objectively correct and teaches you how to have a genuine relationship with God has no actual label.
And where was I? Oh yeah, the fact that there's nothing better is objective, as facts are.
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>>18488510
If you believe in the authenticity of the Shroud of Turin then it can be said that God at least gave us photographical proof.
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>>18489078
You could still answer the question as it still applies yo you. I am no longer giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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>>18489126
God never asked me to defend him.
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>>18489121
That's a big if.
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>why didn’t God perform another grand miracle for the sole reason of proving Himself to me
Why should He prove anything to you? You are commanded to believe and obey
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>>18489402
A trustworthy command channel is very important. How do i know "his" commands are actually Satan's who has hijacked it? There needs to be proof that the commands came from God
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>>18488639
nigga what? god isn’t real end of story
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>>18488807
>the bible is true because it says so in the bible
wow you really convinced me with that one
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>>18488932
>>18489138
you christians are the most disingenuous fork tongued kikes out here
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>>18489730
He isn't a serious person ignore him.
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>>18489730
I am not a "christian".
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>>18489713
אני כי אני הנני אשר אני הנני
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>>18488807
The Bible gives ample evidence for Jesus's megalomania (John 1:10 for example)
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>>18488510
If there was video evidence, would you believe it?
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>>18490516
Yes. What now?
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>>18490722
So are the people who saw Jesus fucked? They cant be blessed anymore. Its a dick move to fuck over your followers like that by showing yourself to them



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