Blonde women were considered more attractive than dark-haired women in ancient world. That's the reason Homer described Helen as having blonde hair and blue eyes because those were admired in Greece. Aphrodite was blonde. Romans also used to admire blonde women.
>>18489150>Homer described Helen as having blonde hair and blue eyesWhere?
>>18489153Surely he'd know his wife had blue hair.
>>18489153Greeks usually represent her as blonde
>>18489157Where did Homer say Helen has blonde hair and blue eyes?
>>18489158He described her as having fair arms.
>>18489160Where did Homer describe Helen as blonde haired and blue eyed anon?
>>18489162usually fair-skinned hair color is not dark but blonde, brown, or red. Also, her eyes are obviously blue
>>18489160He described her with xanthe/xanthos meaning brown. In other words, she wasn’t a nordjeet
>>18489164cry, greeks represent her as blonde. Every greek loved the movie Troy. Greeks and Ancient Greeks love blonde Helen.
>>18489157No they didn't
>>18489168Crying amerilard just making shit up now lolGreeks didn't like that shitty capeshit slop that was Troy
>>18489163>>18489168Where did Homer say she was blonde and blue eyed anon? Why can't you answer this?
>>18489176So you prefer a black Helen and a Trans man as Aquiles?
>>18489181>In Homer's epics, Helen of Troy is defined not by rigid physical traits, but by the transcendent, war-inducing power of her beauty. Rather than listing her features, Homer portrays her through the awe and devastation she causes, famously describing her as "white-armed" and "lovely-haired".
>>18489185Where does Homer say she is blonde haired and blue eyed anon?
Greeks were Nordics it’s literally in their mythology they were from the far north hyperborea there were not indigenous to Greece unlike the swarthoid pelasgians
>>18489187lovely-haired, Greeks love blonde hair, Homer said she was blonde indirectly.
>>18489185Lmao you’re getting BTFO’d retard. Just answer this simple question: where does Homer say she is blonde haired and blue eyed?Shouldn’t be so hard, right nordjeet American?
>>18489188>Wir waren Hellenen und so ein Scheiß!!!!
>>18489150i can agree about light haired women (that's not nordic blond tho), but greeks and romans didn't like light eyes. there is literally only one virgin goddess with light eyes. hera, aphrodite, helen etc had dark eyes
>>18489191This is subjective, you historically illiterate yankee
>>18489185>"lovely-haired".So Homer was a woman? Is that why she forgot to mention Helen's incredible ass?
>>18489187>>18489192>>18489195>>18489196>In classical mythology, Helen of Troy is famously described in ancient texts as a "blonde" (xanthos) with fair skin and blue eyes.
>>18489197Retard, xanthos means brown lol
>>18489198No, >Xanthos (also spelled Xanthus) is an ancient Greek word meaning "yellow," "golden," or "fair-haired." Derived from the Ancient Greek word xanthós, it is often used as a name in Greek mythology and serves as a prefix in various scientific and botanical terms
>>18489198cope ramprit
>>18489193We really wuz
>>18489197>>18489199>source: wewuzzing nordic "translations"
>>18489204why do you fags cope with reality?
>>18489199Xanthos means “bright brown” you fucking Nordic Bantuhttps://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/Mythology/en/Xanthe.html
>>18489150False dichotomy. The Aryan race is defined by multi-pigmentation in imposition to the uniform Asiatic or Black African.
>>18489201>saar I am Aryan Nordic please give me the green card so I can migrate to USA and get shot dead by a black man saar
>>18489206i don't know why are nords coping so hard. images clearly say what greeks and romans imagined her to look like
>>18489206Reality is you retards with a pathetic wewuzzing agenda making shit up about greek words you don't understand while the actual representations made by Greeks and Romans show her as brown haired are not reality apparently
>>18489150Why did gayreeks mock Persians for being pale chads?
>>18489222Because being olive skinned and dark haired is a sign of manliness. Palecucks look like pigs in conparison
>>18489213>i don't know why are SAAAAR
>>18489213What's really pathetic is that even if she was blonde she would just be a blonde Greek, she still wouldn't have any relation to those historyless wewuzzing barbarian apes who stopped being illiterate and dwelling in mudhuts in like the fucking middle ages Otherwise I guess Greeks can wewuzz Martin Luther and Beethoven because they were dark haired and brown eyed? This shit is so fucking retarded and there are everyday threads about it
>>18489224Being poop skinned isn't manly
>>18489231Having intermediate skin (olive) is a normal adaptation to the intensity of the sun in the mediterranean. So your amerilard colorist obsession is just against basic evolutionary adaptation, but I guess you are the ''demon'' obsessed schizo so it's not like you know what evolution even is
>>18489240that comes from nigger rape in your veins though
>>18489164>xanthe/xanthosit means light hair aka blonde or blondish
Blond people defeated Roman empire.
kys
>>18489246>light is blond saar This is how I know you’re a shitskin who’s never seen a person of European stock in his life
>>18489228>Implying Greeks don't claim the achievements of anyone with even the slightest drop of Greek blood or insist they invented the car because they had a toy that spins and invented everything everywhere ever
>>18489244No, it comes from dominant genes, not recessive low T cuck shit you nordjeets have
>>18489255you want to be white so badly.
>>18489260I am of European ancestry or what you amerimutt subhuman vermin call “white”.>inb4 meds aren’t whiteOkay, so what? I’d rather not be white and belong to a group with ancient history, culture, philosophy, etc. than be a nordcuck “white” who’s ancestors raped goats and lived in mudhuts
>>18489251there's barely a difference between blonde and light brown hair and are often mistaken for each other, she was described as light haired>who’s never seen a person of European stock in his lifei'm from italy, are we counted as "european stock"?
>>18489244Mutt law strikes again. Amerimutts always need to air their BBC fetishes. We get it, you jack off to blacked.com, you don't need to remind us everyday
>>18489265>>18489269youre not med pablo
>>18489268You are shitalian terrone trash
Why are Nords inferior to Meds if they defeated Rome?
>>18489274You’ll never be white ranjeet
>>18489268> there's barely a difference between blonde and light brown hairAgain this is how I know your Indian and not European
>>18489278Are Jews, blacks, and Indians superior to whites because they are invading the west?
>>18489283You need to blame the commies for that.
GREEKS WERE HYPERBOREAN BLOND NORDICS COPE BROWNSKINS
>>18489279your turn
>>18489289Get some sunlight, nordjeet
>>18489284Blame capitalism for that. The Soviet Union was against mass migration
>>18489291Stay mad rankapresh
Half the Nordicism posts on this board are from a mentally ill American who believes in Christian Identity and goes by the name "Prince Europa" on /pol/.I find it hilarious that one schizo riles so many people up day in, day out. Christianity is a disease of the Mediterranean. Do you smell the irony yet? The Roman empire was trash. Now you're reaping the rewards.Do you "debate" Muslims? Hindus? Scientologists? You shouldn't. This board is an insane asylum for religious people (retards). If you're one of them, you're in good company.
>>18489293>capitalismlike, we have a bunch of dickheads wanting thirdies for working because actual Europeans don't want to work in those specific jobs.
>>18489294I just want you to know that you Amerimutt nordicks have no history, culture, art, philosophy, or mythology to speak of. Your ancestors (if you aren’t a half breed amerimongrel) worshipped Rome, a civilization founded by Mediterranean peoples who considered you barbaroc and subhuman.We are the main characters, and you will always be the extras
>>18489281i'm italian and i stand by what i said, most blonde women look light brown haired under the right condition, almost no one in the world has natural golden blonde hairhelen was light haired, some people would have called her light brown, some blonde>>18489275i'm northern italian
>>18489303>i'm northern italianSo you are not a med but nord.
>>18489303So you’re a polentonigger? Fuck off
>>18489287IT'S_STILL_REAL_TO_ME_DAMMIT.WEBM
>>18489303Northern Italians will never be truly Italian. 90% of Italian history takes place in central and southern Italy
>>18489305no one in italy calls himself med or has ever called himself med, no a single ancient population that inhabited this penninsula, romans, etruscans or whatnot called himself med, it's not a real identity>>18489307you're not saying that i'm wrong, actual non dyed blonde looks like this, greatly overlaps with light brown, it's correct to simply call it light hair, helen likely had hair like this
>>18489317>what is lighting Go back to school, Giuseppe
>>18489320exactly actual natural blonde hair may look blonder or more light brown depending on the lighting or season tooyou're too used to seeing dyed blonde hair, in reality there's no hard barrier between light brown and blonde, helen likely had this hair color, simply a "light" hair color
>>18489305>>18489307>>18489311
>>18489150Thats a real shame
>>18489176Die Turk rape baby
>>18489324Why are you cherry picking? I can do the same, like Picrel.It’s just intellectually dishonest
This thread became a nord vs. med war really?
>>18489334it's not intellectual dishonesty, trump is a rare example of a very light blond, 99% of blondes look like the ones i posted, natural blonde looks similar to light brown
>>18489254I never saw a single Greek claim the achievements of dark haired brown eyed northern europeans just because they happen to have the same hair color as them lol. This shit only comes from northern europeans and it is so fucking stupid, and the reason why Greeks don't do it and you do is because Greeks have an ancient history while you don't and you want to pathetically attach yourself to their history. It's as stupid as if a bald guy felt like he was connected to Jeff Bezos just because they are both bald
>>18489336no it became a butthurt terrone samefagging vs reasonable people of all ethnicities
>>18489338Do you really want to play this game, shitalian trash?
>>18489336It's what happens when you don't put Christians and Jews in the insane asylum where they belong. OP fervently believes Israel was once settled by Scandinavians and Anglo-Saxons and they left for Greece and later made their way to northern Europe.Christianity is a legitimate source of Nordicism, unironically, and Meds are the source of Christianity.
>>18489347eyebrows and roots of a different color compared to her hair that is a weird obviously unnatural opaque color, obvious dye job, as expected you have been so used to dyed hair you don't even know what natural blondes look like
>>18489353"meds" are not the source of christianity, palestinians are, and palestinians are more related to random iraqis than to "meds" from provence or "meds" from croatia
>>18489355See this is how I know you’re a Bangladeshi saar who recently arrived in Italy. Nordic blond people are known for having very light eyebrows that are almost invisible. That’s why most of them dye it. See again it just proves you don’t know what white people look like and are a shitskin.
>>18489338trump is literally dyed
>>18489362Ever heard of lighting, shitskin?
>>18489339based
>>18489361i'm an "ethnic" italian, you posted a dyed blonde women, eyebrows and roots are always the same color as the hair, if they're not you're dealing with a dye job, clearly you are too used to dyed hair>Nordic blond people are known for having very light eyebrows that are almost invisible. the largest majority don't, they have darker blonde hair like the women i posted, i doubt the women you posted is even scandinavian
>>18489353>It's what happens when you don't put Christians and Jews in the insane asylum where they belong. OP fervently believes Israel was once settled by Scandinavians and Anglo-Saxons and they left for Greece and later made their way to northern Europe.I'm OP, I just believe that Nords are superior to Meds and that Meds saw them as god-like beings after meeting them.
>>18489369You’re not Italian shitdeep.Picrel shows how lighting affects hair color
>>18489362i don't think he's dyed i think they're whitening due to age, but as i said naturally his hair look light brown under various lighting and during different seasons, as is true for most natural blondes
>>18489370meds saw them as low iq barbarians
>>18489353Christianity isn't a source of nordicism, this heretical strain of christianity is an entirely american phenomenon and it's heretical. It's the same way with the ''prosperity gospel'' bullshit, another american aberration
>>18489375i'm italian, the fact that lighting affects color is my point, let me copy paste my previous post>>18489324>exactly actual natural blonde hair may look blonder or more light brown depending on the lighting or season tooyou're also posting weird photoshopped low quality pictures, guess it's hard to find natural light blondes without a dye job
>>18489385your not Italian jamjeet >>exactly actual natural blonde hair may look blonder or more light brown depending on the lighting or season tooso you agree with me? Great. I accept your concession Bangladeshi
>>18489380aristotele is a single person that only speaks for himself, he does not represent "meds" and he in fact never called himself a "med", nor his conception of "us" included italians or other southern europeans
>>18489389i agree with the fact that helen was light haired, which means that many of her contemporaries would have considered her blonde, others light brown, as there's little difference between the 2
>>18489380for all we know inland europe to him could mean illyria and thracia
>>18489393She had light brown hair, jamjeet. Sorry but it’s true.
>>18489383Quit coping retard. Christian Identity started in Europe.
>>18489390Meanwhile the Roman soldiers were affronted of having to serve alongside germanic barbarians because they stunk to high heaven lol. They saw them the same way many Anglos see Indians now, not as ''God-like beings''. They spend centuries massacring and enslaving millions of such ''God-like beings'' also
>>18489398she had light hair, which means both blonde and light brown
>>18489405She had light brown hair, sir. Already proved this to you.
>>18489404>Meanwhile the Roman soldiers were affronted of having to serve alongside germanic barbarians because they stunk to high heaven lol. nothing to do with mediterranean identity , zero, and in the late empire, when germanic soldiers served under rome, they served with other types of foreigners, there were hardly any "romans" at that point in the military
>>18489406she had light hair, which means both blonde and light brown, i thought you were the guy arguing that she was germanic, so you're the terrone calling other people pajeets because you don't know what blonde hair look like, lmao
>>18489393greeks didn't know brown hair tho. they had 3 basic hair color words while we have at least 4
>>18489385>>18489393>>18489405>>18489409>gets debunked over and over again>keeps conceding, not a single original point madeCuck.
>>18489410that means, even more strongly, that they classified light hair in a single basket even more than we do, helen was light haired in general, the weird terrone obsessed with hair colors of ancient figures has to accept this
>>18489416i never got debunked and i never conceded a single point, natural blondes, with very few exceptions look light brown under various light conditions, they're almost synonyms as far as hair colors go, helen had light hair, that means both blonde and light brown to different people in different contexts, no concessions here as you can see
>>18489222Being pale meant that you don't spend your time outdoors doing manly things like playing sports and drilling for war.
>>18489419NTA but the word xanthos literally meant brown
>>18489398Light brown hair is literally the Nordic hair color, the average Nord has light brown hair and light brown hair is more common in Nordic countries than anywhere else.
>>18489425Nordnigs ever have light brown hair or light blond hair. Medspics are more diverse. From fully dark hair all the way to light brown. Using Occam’s razor, we know Helen must have been a mednig
>>18489424it means "light hair" and "light brown" and "blonde" depending on the translation and the period, she had light hair in all three cases
>Helen was MedNope>Helen was NordNope>Helen was a fictional characterCorrectHomer was telling tall tales he inherited from the steppe and mixing in semi-historical events.
>>18489432not him but he's right, that sort of light brown/dark blonde hair color, that is sometimes called blonde, sometimes called brown, is the most common in northern europe, very few northern europeans have light blonde hair
>>18489441fact or fiction is completely irrelevant to the point OP is making.
>>18489419nobody serious denies
>>18489451yes, in many vocabularies in means blonde, in others light brown, in others simply light hair, that's fine because all three mean almost the same thing
>>18489465black = melainabrown/tawny = xanthosred = pyrrhos
>>18489451Still not related to you just because of fucking hair color same way Beethoven isn't related to Greeks, Your actual ancestors were retarded barbarians shitting in mudhuts unable to write and read for more than a thousand years after Homer
>>18489422>>18489425>>18489436>>18489444>>18489465Nordic elites were of Mediterranean stock.
>>18489470yes exactly, so xanthos includes all lighter shades of hair (reddish colors excluded), from the darkest shades of light brown to the lightest shades of blonde, while melaina is for dark (black and dark brown) hair colors
>>18489477>darkest shades of light brownYou twist worlds like a Jew.Just say brown dude
>>18489471seems i misunderstood his point, I thought he meant that xanthos was wider than our blond. light greeks are still greeks, dark nords ate still nords, i agree>>18489477mostly correct but it's complicated with reddish shades. those who were described as xanthos are often reddish haired in art. and the dictionary above included auburn and reddish tinges. there are almost zero references to pyrrhos in poetry so maybe they called red xanthos there
>>18489489no. brown could either mean "dark brown", that is closer to black and most definitely a dark hair color, or could mean light brown, that is closer to blonde and a light hair color, xanthos is for light brown and blonde, and whether you like it or not it is translated as such in most places, melaina is for black and dark brown
>>18489494Just say brown dude. Jeez you polentoni are dense
>>18489494we should remember the sun effect as well. this hair would be called xanthos rather than melaina
>>18489513i already told you why i don't
>>18489521>because I’m a coping retardAlright
Nord women are better, are hotter, cope
>>18489524i'm not coping, re-read my explanation, xanthos is for lighter hair colors, aka light brown/blonde and is often translated as such
>>18489489Is this brown hair?
>>18489528>shit explanationDude your just making shit up
>>18489558i'm not, again there's a very fine line between light blonde and dark brown, xanthos is for these types of hair colors
>>18489562*between dark blonde and light brown
>>18489558>>18489172 Greeks and Romans didn't portray her with blonde hair, so you are the one making shit up
>>18489562> light blonde and dark brownFreudian slip, kek
>>18489566artistic liberties of the creators of those artpieces, may i remind you that helen wasn't real? according to homer, the creator of helen, she is supposed to have light hair
>>18489569or maybe just tired of arguing with an obvious retard
>>18489575I accept your concession
>>18489158I read the illiand (not the english version) and he does describes her as blond, I don't remember the page, read the book yourself it's not that longsame with aquiles, he was 100% blondAnother clue: dioscures were blond (helen's brothers)
>>18489580i did not make any, obvious retard
Some retards really believe blond people didn't exist until the XVII century
Sappho describes Helen's eyes as κυάνεος.She therefore, is giving her esteemed take on the ideal example of mortal beauty. As an ancient Greek woman.Now, let's see what that word means in context.It's dark blue, by the way. Spoiler alert.The medbug NAFRI decade long cope on this board is sweet nectar.https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/κύανος#Ancient_GreekNounκῠ́ᾰνος • (kŭ́ănos) m (genitive κῠᾰ́νου); second declensiondark blue enamel, especially used to adorn armour(mineralogy) lapis lazuli(mineralogy) azuriteblue copper carbonatecornflower (Centaurea cyanus)blue rock thrush (Monticola solitarius)(feminine) blue or a shade of blueDescendantsGreek: κυανός (kyanós)Dutch: cyaanEnglish: cyan, cyano-French: cyanGerman: ZyanItalian: cianoLatin: cȳanos, cȳanusSpanish: acianoOttoman Turkish: كیانوس (kiyānus)Turkish: kiyanus (inherited)Swedish: cyan
>>18489444>Survive the larp
Xanthos/e means blonde/roux/fauve and all its nuances. One of the last cool nights in Pompeii, probably painted by a Greek artist, the xanthe representation. Other heroes and diviners are also represented by others, such as Persephone
>>18489150Even men
>>18489587You did
>>18489251>>18489158in the first description of her he says shes light haired.>erm that doesnt mean blondeit means she wasnt a black haired shitskin like Lebanigs, Nafroons, and other assorted MENAjeets like roaches and Cypriots who desperately want to be related to Early European Farmer derived groups like Mycenaeans and Hellenes.
>>18489717i didn't make any concessions, copy pasting my previous comment: i never conceded a single point, natural blondes, with very few exceptions look light brown under various light conditions, they're almost synonyms as far as hair colors go, helen had light hair, that means both blonde and light brown to different people in different contexts, no concessions here as you can see
>>18489150She completely jawmogs me. Fucking Germans man.
>>18489570>>18489584homer never described her her hair color. he described her only as eukomoi (lovely-haired), this is 100% a non-color word, but some translators use fair-haired>>18489682kuanos meant dark blue and was a poetic black, by the same word was described hector hair. eyes of north europeans never were described with this
White history and white culture does not belong to non whites and any non white depiction of Helen of Troy is a laughable and pathetic lie.
>>18490148White history (terroni)
>>18489153He described her as blonde and fair-skinned, later Greeks described her eyes as "dark blue"
>>18490131her hair was described the same as Menelaus' which in this translation is "fair-haired"https://www.theoi.com/Text/HomerIliad3.html
>>18489207did you even read your own source?
>>18489207xanthe means golden/yellow
>>18490490Greeks knew better since they portrayed her with black and brown hair. Either way a blonde Greek is just a blonde Greek, nothing to do with you amerilards
>Northern Europeans have EEF and lack basal Afro-Asiatic like Mycenaeans did>Lebadogs, Nafroons, and Roaches have afro-asiatic and less EEF than Northern EuropeansThis means Northern Europeans visually and behaviorally are more like Mycenaeans than MENAmutts.
>>18490493>Greeks knew better since they portrayed her with black and brown hair. greek artists took artistic liberties, helen was not a real person with a real appearance, homer envisioned her as light haired> Either way a blonde Greek is just a blonde Greekyes, that's not the same as denying helen was envisioned by homer as light haired or denying the existence of light hair among ancient ageans
