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By ancient greek standards every modern democracy is an oligarchy with informal nobility and by modern standards every greek democracy was anarchism with mass slavery.

Would you consider a nation where the policy makers are an enraged mob of 20-30% of the population that makes decisions on the spot a democracy? Would said mob consider a system where a few select rich and influential figures take turns at power based off a vote not of individuals, but of large noble families with aligned interests represented by said individual, a rule of the demos, the people? Sparta, rome, they won the civilizational game. Our inherited systems come from them and the arguments philosophers aligned with them made, not of athens and its sophists, its insane belief in truth and morality being dependent on consensus, of gods greedy like men, of the strong do as they wish and the weak suffer what they might.

Should we then insist on using the word "democracy"?
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>>18490434
>Our inherited systems come from them
There is 0 continuity, modern democracy is fundamentally modified Germanic feudalism that pays lip service to classicism
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>>18490434
Modern democracy has zero links to Athenian democracy and is far more roots in Germanic tribal structures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_(assembly)
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>>18490434
We have the rule of law, procedural stability and the idea that humans, to be human and citizens, need to have certain rights vice versa each other, actually.

And with "we" I mean "Some parts of Europe" only.
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>>18490471
no, modern democracy came from the roman republican model as cited by the founding fathers as their main reference when designing it
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>>18490811
Women in the Roman Empire were never allowed to vote
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>>18490811
>One of three members of the committee, Thomas Jefferson, proposed that one side of the seal feature Hengist and Horsa, "the Saxon chiefs from whom we claim the honor of being descended, and whose political principles and form of government we assumed".



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