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People from lebanon, coastal syria, anatolia and coastal egypt are not brown and are indistinguishable from southern europeans on a physical anthropology sense and more similar to them genetically than northern europeans. Had islam not broken the mediterranean connection woild they be considered an extension of the christian mediterranean world like they were in roman times?
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>>18491657
No, because they are not European. Without Islam, they'd be considered Roman, however, probably. The creation of whiteness as a concept is specifically tied to European Christendom in relation to Asiatic and African Muslim rivals and colonized peoples. Hell, I'd even argue that being white was more about being born in Europe itself. The fact that American Anglos were largely locked out of imperial business as well as the criollos of the Spanish Empire is proof enough. It was about heritage AND obedience to imperial capitals.
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Actual white American here, rather than a delusional Mexican yapping about his backwards countries criollo / peninsular divide, which did not exist in America.

In America, no one has ever considered Ralph Nader as anything other than white.
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>>18491657
The other day, someone replied to my post claiming Tartars were "blonde Nordics".
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18488330/#18488919

Why is it that Albanians and Bosnians, who are fully European, are deemed to not be white because of the religion they practice, yet these Tartars, who are not European but Asiatic, are given the benefit of Europeanness despite being mudslimes for over a thousand years (Longer than Turks and Caucasians) because they confuse them for Volga Finns?
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>>18491710
It absolutely existed. What the fuck is wrong with the people on this board? Are you guys retarded or something?
>Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
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>>18491710
On the U.S. Census everyone from that region is white, dating back to when people wanted to be white and when many Levantine immigrants were Christians.
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>>18491710
Curiously, neither do latinx, syrians and lebanese are universally white in LatAm
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>>18491811
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>>18491813
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>>18491657
Southern europeans wouldn't be considered white if that was the case
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>>18491833
As they shouldn't, they are meds, the superior race.
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>>18491657
The "white" concept was born out of the historical outcome of northen meds ending up sharing religions and culture with northen europeans, after Islam split the ancient med civilization.
When your main civilization opponents are darker than you, you will end up thinking fair = good. Fair features being usually naturally preferred by many civilizations across time and space helped too
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>>18491811
LATM eastern immigrants are usually both christian and wealthier than the average Abdul leeching on Europe welfare nowadays, given their immigration phenomenon is older and reaching Americas requires more money. Also no Salafis spreading their cancerous low IQ sect in America as much as in Europe
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>>18491833
Europa was born in Phoenicia
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>>18491657
Can't be European if you're not white.
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>>18491875
But they are white though, south europeans cluster near them
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>>18491881
/pol/ackomorph wignat meximestizo creaturas will look at pic related and say they are brown without a hint of irony....

Absolutely irony and ideologyraped
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>>18491879
southern europeans don't cluster near them outside of a few south italians that are barely considered white

>>18491657
no because they're not european, simple, they're brown, christian ethiopians and christian lebanese and christian palestinians are not considered europeans



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