Interracial marriage was legalized in Washington D.C. on November 4, 1874. The same day, a black male/white female couple, Andrew Kinney and Mahala Miller, traveled from their home in Augusta County, Virginia, where they were raising two sons as a common-law couple, and tied the knot. After a ten day honeymoon, the Kinneys returned home to Virginia.Their marriage apparently went undetected for three years, when they were arrested on charges of violating Virginia laws prohibiting miscegenation. On February 2, 1878, the Kinneys were found guilty and fined $500 (equivalent to $14,000 today). They appealed the case, arguing the marriage had taken place in D.C. and was legal there. The Virginia state supreme court rejected their argument, saying that miscegenation was illegal in Virginia regardless of what the laws said elsewhere. Justice Joseph Christian wrote "The purity of public morals, the moral and physical development of both races, and the highest advancement of our cherished Southern civilization, under which two distinct races are to work out and accomplish the destiny to which the Almighty has assigned them on this continent require that they should be kept distinct and separate, and that connections and alliances so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them, should be prohibited by positive law, and be subject to no evasion."Virginia had formally prohibited interracial relationships going back to a law passed in 1691, which had been included in an act designed to punish runaway slaves. Law enforcement officials were given the authority to use deadly force on any slave who resisted, tried to flee, or refused to surrender. As part of the act, "abominable mixture and spurious issue" by interracial marriage was also banned. Any white man or woman who entered into marriage with a black, mulatto, or Native American was to receive three months imprisonment and thence be expelled from Virginia forever.
The law was amended in 1848 to include 12 months imprisonment for violators. Yet defiance of it continued. There are 24 interracial marriages recorded in Virginia in the first five years after the Civil War. The Richmond Daily Dispatch reported that a white woman in Wythe County was tarred and feathered for living with a black man. The laws got more harsh as people continued to disobey them. In 1873, penalties were increased to one year imprisonment and a $100 fine for the white person, and a $200 fine for anyone who officiated an interracial wedding.After the Kinney case came before the state supreme court, the law was amended to give both the husband and wife up to 5 years in prison.
Eight decades later, in late 1958, Richard and Mildred Loving were arrested in Caroline County for violating state law against misgenation. They pled guilty in early 1959 and a judge told them they wouldn't face any jail time if they agreed to leave Virginia and not return for 30 years. They moved to Washington D.C., where, in 1963, Mildred Loving appealed to Attorney General Robert Kennedy for help. "Dear sir: I am writing to you concerning a problem we have. In 1958, my husband and I were married here in the District. We then returned to Va. to live. My husband is White. I am part Negro and part Indian. At the time we did not know there was a law in Virginia against mixed marriages. Therefore we were jailed and tried in a little town of Bowling Green. We were to leave the state to make our home. We will receive 1 year in jail should we return to Virginia any time in the next thirty. We know we can't live there, but we would like to visit our family and friends in the state sometime."The ACLU took up the case and the Supreme Court ruled unanimously on June 12, 1967 that state miscegenation laws violated the 14th Amendment. For that reason, June 14 is widely known as Loving Day.
>>18494373>The purity of public morals, the moral and physical development of both races, and the highest advancement of our cherished Southern civilization, under which two distinct races are to work out and accomplish the destiny to which the Almighty has assigned them on this continent require that they should be kept distinct and separate, and that connections and alliances so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them, should be prohibited by positive law, and be subject to no evasion.nice... they were trying to make sure not to stir God's wrath, to make sure not to trigger the warned of catastrophe which would come if the warning of the flood was not heeded for all time
>>18494373>The Virginia state supreme court rejected their argument, saying that miscegenation was illegal in Virginia regardless of what the laws said elsewhere.this was actually unconstitutional btw. Article 4, Section 1 in the Constitution mandates that states recognize legal contracts made in other states. so while it might not be possible for an interracial couple to marry in Virginia itself, they would have to recognize a couple legally married outside the state.
In total fairness, while not illegal, marriages among different white ethnicities were considered gauche back then too. For example Italians did not marry non-Italians and Irish did not marry non-Irish and WASPs did not marry non-WASPs. I once knew a lady who would have been the heiress to the fortune of a certain yogurt company, a very successful one whose products are sold nationwide, and back in the '40s she got disowned and disinherited by the family for marrying a Frenchman.
>>18494405that wasn't the Court's logic in Loving though, they said banning IM was unconstitutional full stop
>>18494428my great aunt had married a Navajo Indian and both families disowned them. they still loved each other and made things work out as best as they could.
>>18494428Weren't marriages among Irish and other Catholic groups like Poles, Italians and Southern Germans relatively common?
>>18494396Where does it say that in the bible?
>>18494428apparently Richard Nixon's mother's family snubbed his Irish father because they were very clannish Quaker Germans and he was neither one of them nor a churchgoer.
>>18494450the part where God flooded the earth because of race mixers, and something about next time it would be fire
>>18494447not really. Italians were very clannish and it would have been unacceptable to marry outside the tribe, the dad especially would hate you
>>18494476The dad would have hated you if you married someone from a different part of italy. >>18494447there are always families that are more close minded and others that just want their daughter to find a good man. And how much sons do and do not care about their fathers rules is a story as old as human storytelling.
>>18494483>>18494476lol is that why Connie Francis's dad threatened Bobby Darin with a gun so they couldn't get married? sorry you're Calabrian not Neapolitan, bro. my little girl you cannot have.
>>18494438They wanted to strike down all IM statutes though, not just "oh if you're from Mississippi you can travel to California to get married and MS would have to recognize it."
>>18494405That is for instance why you don't have to get a different driver's license whenever you drive through another state, California for instance is required to recognize an Arizona driver's license as valid due to Article 4 Section 1. The one exception I believe would be law licenses since you can't practice law in California with (say) a Florida law license.
>>18494373>our cherished Southern civilizationBootlickers for Israel, southern civilization my foot.
>>18494375>There are 24 interracial marriages recorded in Virginia in the first five years after the Civil War. The Richmond Daily Dispatch reported that a white woman in Wythe County was tarred and feathered for living with a black man.kinda not shocked at that when all white men in the state under 50 were dead or walking around with a missing leg. they were a bit short on options for a husband.
>>18494508you can, but it is complicated. the local bar association has to give you permission and they all have somewhat different requirements.
>>18494458To be fair race mixing is an abomination
>>18494508that's obviously because getting a law license requires you to have studied and memorized that state's laws
>>18494531and it is adulteration, violating the commandments given to Moses
>>18494428Back in that time not just interracial dating but inter-religion dating was frowned upon. My grandparents married about two weeks after Pearl Harbor. One was Catholic, the other Lutheran, and they got married in the foyer of the latter church since the minister wouldn't do a full wedding in the church itself.
>>18494551Marriages in that time (pre-boomer, pre-Sexual Revolution) were still a lot more transactional than about romantic love.
>>18494556gender roles were also much more rigidly defined back then and there were stringent standards for how men and women dressed, behaved, what jobs and social activities they could participate in, etc. obviously this changed with the boomers and the 90s was probably the peak of androgyny and gender doesn't matter.
>>18494542shouldn't you have memorized that state's driving laws as well? I mean, most are obviously the same nation wide, signage etc, but don't they vary in stuff like how tinted your windows can be and seat belt laws, distracted driving, etc?
>>18494556From about 1965 to 81 was a total free-for-all-orgy. That mostly ended with AIDS and the rise of second wave feminism. There was no Sexual Revolution for Gen X.
>>18494569it was a strange thing that feminazis and the Moral Majority both had a stake in opposing the SR, although for entirely different reasons. horseshoe theory lives?
>>18494561It was easy to get a date in the 50s compared to this century for a variety of reasons, but getting past first base was a lot harder. Women would not fuck on the first date back then, contraception and abortion not being legally obtainable, and it was too risky. Couples were also rigidly supervised.
>>18494591my grandfather had graduated high school in 1958 and attended university in the '60s. from what he said.>your male friends might try to set you up on a date, perhaps with their sister>you might meet a girl at your church>dating was rigidly restricted to the same race, religion, and socioeconomic class--WASPs did not marry Irish or Poles, even if same race you didn't get with people of a different religious denomination nor people of lower social standing than yourself>people not attending university were expected to marry not more than a few years after high school>the phones were all party lines so nothing you said to a girl over the phone was private
>>18494543The Mosaic laws aren't binding anymore....what's your foreskin status anon?
>>18494610But the wise can perceive in them the truth which is born out of righteousness, and worth preservation.
>>18494396The flood was caused due to general evilness not because of mixing with niggers lol Give a specific verse in your Jewish book where it says "Mixing with blacks is bad".
>>18494428What a lame way of living lol
>>18494619Interracial marriage is forbidden in scripture (Ezra 9:1-2, Ezra 9:10-14, Ezra 10:1-3, Ezra 10:10-14, Neh. 9:1-2, Neh. 10:28-30, Neh. 13:1-3, Neh. 13:23-24, Neh. 13:27-30), and racial separatism is scriptural (Acts 17:26, Deut. 32:7-8, Gen. 10, Gen. 11:6-9).
>>18494610Hey they are binding. You don't ever deregulate and live to tell the tale.
>>18494631>Interracial marriage is forbidden in scripture (Ezra 9:1-2, Ezra 9:10-14, Ezra 10:1-3, Ezra 10:10-14, Neh. 9:1-2, Neh. 10:28-30, Neh. 13:1-3, Neh. 13:23-24, Neh. 13:27-30)All these talk about Inter-religious marriages, what's stopping you from marrying a Christian black?> racial separatism is scriptural (Acts 17:26, Deut. 32:7-8, Gen. 10, Gen. 11:6-9).Doesn't say "Don't mix with the niggers" once. Also, nations=race in your worldview? In fact Moses actually married a Cushite woman and God punishes his sister for making fun of Moses's wife in Numbers 12:10
>>18494648ah, there you go again insisting everyone living on the red seas was black... so utterly tiresome
>>18494620/pol/ jerks off the 50s a lot but would hate actually living back then.
>>18494428Go to Europe and tell a Pole he's the same race as a German within punching distance and get back to me.
of course interracial relationships are still frowned upon in the South especially if BMWF. it's no longer 1910 so you won't get shot at or lynched but you won't win friends and influence people either.
>>18494525lol probably. if you lived in a small Southern town during the Reconstruction era and there were no white guys left except geriatrics you'd probably get a bit desperate.
>>18494428States prior to Loving also had inconsistent laws on whether Hispanics were white or not.
>>18494476Sounds anal rententive honestly. Shitalians always confounded me.
>>18494524You tell 'em Atun-Shei, send your bull my best regards!
>>18494877Thats bad news for my one friend but from what I know her family actually likes him. But I think its because he's Irish and they're also Catholic.
>>18494877I also went to a majority Italian high school and its true Italian broads are pretty fine when they're young.
>>18494919nta but i'd never seen a successful marriage between an Italian woman and non-Italian man. it always ends pretty much like he described.
>>18494765Most southern white dudes i know still don't really like blacks to this day. Its ingrained in their culture although I'd say they're much less stratified than up here.
>>18494922Fair, but a lot of women i dated were mostly German or Irish. Italian girls are cute but they never saw me in that particular way. I was always a skinny spaz back then. I gained weight as I got older and now have a mustache but even living in a majority Italian city I probably only had one Italian ex and it wasn't a serious relationship.
