"Human rights" are a flawed concept.A right is really just an arrogant synonym for an interest, and an interest that cannot be exercised without asking someone who suffers no ill consequences for denying the request is best assumed not to be fulfillable.Private citizens do not possess the means to seize something, while the state does.Therefore, human beings have no rights. The state has rights.Human beings can only hope for hand-outs from the state.Just because it sounds unpleasant doesn't mean it's not true
>>18496081Human beings have three rights according to scripture:1. Life2. Liberty3. Private propertyEverything else is invented bullshit made up to establish murderous tyrannies
Indeed. Which is why there is no such thing as white genocide:)
>>18496124>’Merishart evangelist treating the US constitution like a hidden gospellollmao
Humans are the state, dumass. Once commies take over, you must screech "muh rights and shit" so they wont gulag you."Rights" is just an word, made up so you can argue with the parties which hold power, so you can debate politically, hoping they wont guilotine you.
>>18496186You're so right. White "people" have no rights:)
>>18496179Genesis 9:1–12, Psalm 115:16, Matthew 25:14-30
>>18496233>>18496165Ranjeet or schlomo?Take your pick
>>18496391You have no rights, this thread says so :)
>>18496081Human rights should only be applied to actual "needs". Food, water, shelter are the basic biological needs humans need to have life. These are naturally available to all humans, but the state (a group of individual humans) created laws that make the denial of these basics possible without direct violence.Individuals can take back these needs by destroying the state they created.
>>18496391You are literally claiming rights don't exist and hat the weak should be deleted by the strong lol. By your own definition, what is happening to white nations of becoming less white and white people disappearing is natural and correct lol
>>18496586>food, water, shelterNone of those are rights. Getting those requires the productive labor of others and no one has a right to steal. People perished from starvation, dehydration, and exposure long before any state existed. It is the liberal market economy which has overseen the greatest reduction of those deaths despite not guaranteeing a single one of those three as a right
>>18496725How much did Nestlé pay you to say this?
>>18496737I am under no obligation to disclose such a figure
>>18496725Steal what? Property isn't a right if you want to go by your logic. "Property" in nature only can be claimed through violence or domination of others. Liberal property law just codified this.But biological needs "should" be considered rights if you have any preference for human life. The liberal economy hides the violence and domination still being used to prevent others from having access to biologically needed resources.
I think the rightoids and the leftoids in this thread - who are both using their own prescriptive notions of what rights are to make some kind of political appeal - are missing OP’s (brutally descriptive) point.
>>18496586What kind of food? How much of it?What kind of lodging should you get simply for existing?How do you know the bureaucrat in charge of distribution cannot be bribed to create blatantly unequal outcomes?See, state distribution is no less arbitrary than market distribution
>>18497203>Steal what?Productive labor.
You have the rights you fight forFor example, if enough people decided to shoot anyone who tried to steal their rights by claiming that rights don't exist, then that would become their right.
>>18496081Bingo. Rights are just legal fictions the state might sometimes enforce if they are in a particularly good mood. I mean concidering there are more slaves alive today then during any other point in history and all it takes is one regime change for rights to suddenly change they aren't very universal.
>>18496081Human rights concept appeared from propaganda of American rebels trying to break from the British Empire.According to traditional morals that existed at that time subjects have no right to rebel against The King. It's offence against society and even The God who installed such order. Subjects have only right to obey their King.American rebels needed to invent new morals that will support their cause. They came up with human rights and all men are born equal to break away from the King's rule.Then following success and strength of the United States their new morals were spread around the globe (only to bite them in the ass and leading to their downfall via brown hordes migration).
>>18496725It's not the liberal market economy its the advance in technology that made the modern life possible. Today you can have a nation that's a theocracy, or a communist planned economy and it won't have famines as long as it uses modern technology.
>>18496081we've seen what happens when we listen to that guy and it sucksas a human, I vastly prefer human rights
>>18497892Domestically speaking, Nazi Germany was pretty great for the Germans. It's the foreign and military policy, or in other words geopolitics, that brought it down and made that all irrelevant; he was bad for others but good for them. All the parties that decry Hitler and his reign as a horror for humanity never critique his treatment of the Germans because they can't. At most they'll critique the book burnings, which is fair but not exactly radical for the era. Meanwhile the commies treated their own as less than slaves, transparent but brutal, while the western democracies treated their own as fools belittling and scamming them as much as possible.
>>18497892this, but only when everyone who isn't like me is classified as subhuman thus doesn't have rights
>>18496081I'd take it further, rights don't exist at all. For any stronger state may ignore the so-called rights of a weaker state.
>>18499300At first, under the best part of Nazi rule, it meant working long hours with no labor rights for the average German.Then came the conscription and war and getting your home bombed because of a war the Nazis started.
