Reminder that great man of histories think that if the french revolution had never happened Napoleon would still somehow have become the most influential man in the world
>>18496084Wrong. The French Revolution happened specifically BECAUSE Napoleon was destined to become the most influential man in the world. It's like physics. Napoleon was a black hole and he started dragging everything around him into his sphere. He warped the historical gravitational field. Sorry Louis, you have to lose your head, Nappy boy is here! Sorry that your baby starved to death, Frenchie, Monsieur Bonaparte needs to rule!He unlocked the secrets to the universe. What's funny is in spite of this you'll laugh it off instead of realizing that this is 100% real and you'll never be in his shoes.
>>18496087He was history on horsebackThe world-historic figure.Glad to know someone still truly understands how history works
>>18496087>>18496585Why do you act like Nappy was so great when Hitler managed to be even greater and more remembered despite losing?Napoleon literally had to win to be remembered, Hitler lost and is still remembered and has cults that still follow and are loyal to him. Nobody is loyal or building cults to Napoleon, no one, not even you who like him a lot.
>>18496590>Napoleon literally had to win to be remembered, Hitler lost and is still remembered and has cults that still follow and are loyal to himCause he chimped out and allegedly killed 6 Million Jews along with 4 million other people. He wouldn't be so relevant if he allegedly didn't do that stuff.
>>18496590Napoleon will be remembered in a thousand years for giving birth to Italy and Germany, his Napoleonic Code, and his contribution to the United States through the Louisiana Purchase. Hitler, at best, will be seen as the major antagonist that gave birth to the United Nations and liberal international order. If the U.N. even matters. If anything, our period of time will be viewed as a time of incredible geopolitical fragmentation and Hitler will be seen as a controversial, but nevertheless warlike figure in European history whose actions preceded the nuclear age and the near-permanent stalemate that came after, where ideas had more power than guns and bombs.
>>18496590>>18496600>>18496590Napoleon and Hitler are both world historical figures. Extraordinary forces of nature that warped the world to their will and shaped the destiny of continents.The only thing that I will say is that Napoleon's legacy is more or less written in stone, whilst Hitler's, at least to me, feels like it is yet to be finalized. I don't see it as impossible that in a few decades Hitler's legacy is reevaluated and he is seen as a heroic tragic figure in Europe. Likewise it could also very well be he remains the moral and political south pole -- the Devil against who all are measured against. Whichever one leaves him in rarified air, alongside the likes of Alexander, Caesar, and Napoleon.
>>18496084There's a good chance he still would have ended up pretty important. But you're also mischaracterizing the idea of great men of history. Obviously if Temujin had fallen off a horse and died when he was 8, none of us would know who he was. But there were also obviously things about him that distinguished him from his peers in the same time and place who were unable to do what he did. And because of that, he wound up wielding immense power over the course of history compared to ordinary men.
>>18496084A study or perusal of the material history of the globe would probably show though that the proper way to conquer russia is probably from the east going west like the golden horde khanate and the proper way to conquer italy is from the north going south like a foot slipping into a shoe or high heel or boot
>>18497170So what you're saying is, Napoleon should have... conquered the Ottoman Empire, carved his way through Persia, conquered Central Asia and rallied the Turkmen there, and then conquered Russia from the East?
>>18496087TRVKEJupiter orchestrated it.>>18496590THERMOTRVKLEAR STRIKEWotan orchestrated it.Great Man Theory?Divine Hero Theory!the gods come from the collective spirit of the people, the gods then weave the fates of history to manifest their avatars.
>>18496599>holocaustholocaust is fake.Hitler's name will live on because he went hard as fuck.
>>18496590>NappyYou are literally an experiment of rothschild jews
>>18496713How do you imagine Napoleon achieving any major influence without the french revolution and having people like him be allowed for promotion?
>>18496087How do the Fr*nch cope with fact that an Italian is their greatest man?
