What's the source of the Africa DNA in Spain?
>>18496763Could it be the fact that the Strait of Gibraltar separating it from Africa is less than 8 miles wide at its narrowest point?
Could it be the 700 years of nafri colonial rule?
>>18496770Spanish and hispanistas swear up and down there was no mixing o algo
>>18496763Fake map>>18496770Essentially, yes. Most of the "berber'" DNA in Spain is ancient.>>18496776Spaniards nowadays have less north african DNA than they had in Roman and Visigoth times. Medieval Andalusians even if Muslims were largely european themselves.
>>18496789moorberian cope squad arrived
Highly disingenuous using Kerkouane which is very East Med shifted and with little IBM for North Africans to inflate the numbers. But that's how nordicists are, always dishonest with an agenda to try and paint Southern Europe as mixed and will use whatever manipulative means necessary. Same with how they try and portray Italians as Levantines.
>>18496796I'm not even Iberian and everything I said was true.
>>18496798It's a punic sample and phoenicians had plenty of greek like admixture.
>>18496802Yes, I know. That was my entire point.
>>18496807>>18496802Also while the common Aegean ancestry is true, Punics lacked Levantine admixture overall so were unrelated to and could not have descended from the Phoenicians genetically. That's what the Reich lab study on the Punics showed.
This is pre-indoeuropean/semitic Iberomaurusian DNA, that's why it goes West-East instead of South-North, it's the genetic legacy of people living there before indo europeans and semites pushed in from the east
>>18496799What latinx country are you from?
>>18496798>nordistYou're not med joao
>>18496825Latinx online are far more likely to exaggerate african influences in Spain than rebuke them. Pretending that Spaniards are mixed race like they are is their whole gig. Both the pan hispanists and the indigenists do that.
>ask inflammatory question>get right answer>start trying to trollembarassing thread
>>18496831Maybe on the other parts of the internet but here they all larp as med and/or tradcath to try and score white people points
>>18496832Your "white med roman latin tradcath conquistador" ancestors have been exposed as African, nullifying all your claims to be white
>spain got subjugated by this for centuries
>>18496763>tunisia_kerkouane_punickek
>>18496822nope, it's agean ancestry from the roman era, the retard that made this chart used the kerkouane samples that are largely agean and like 10% berber>>18496802yeah, it's not berber like the pic is claiming
>>18496763I find it interesting that the Crown of Aragon part of Spain has less North African admixture when many Aragonese lords were invested in protecting their Muslim subjects even during the inquisition. I guess they just had that much more European admixture coming in from France and Germany for reconquista and resettlement initiatives. >>18496789>Spaniards nowadays have less north african DNA than they had in Roman and Visigoth times. Medieval Andalusians even if Muslims were largely european themselves.Is the introduction of French and German settlers and crusaders to Spain largely the reason why Spain now has less North African admixture or is there another reason?Also I would imagine that the Moriscos would have much more North African admixture than their Christian neighbors. I wouldn't doubt that the expulsion of the Moriscos purged a lot of Spain's North African DNA at the time.
Iberians are some of the whitest niggers on earth.
>>18496763If tashelhiyt or tachelhit or shilha is spoken or has an influence there then southern morocco could be one possible source
>>18496763Me, I raped all the Iberian woman with my niggerdick. I'm normally not black, but I become black when I fuck Iberians. It's like a superpower.
>>18497310Should petition gookmoot to set up a "Most Brazilian Post of the Week" award for all the non-flag boards t b h
>>18496763Slave tradeNot sure about Spain, but Lisbon was already filled with Africans in the 1500s because the Portuguese were literally the pioneers of the Atlantic slave trade, if you look at painting related you can literally see them there. The Renaissance era Portuguese obviously didn't think much of "racial purity" and shit so these slaves probably were allowed to live free lives and intermix with the locals after being emancipated or whatnot.
>>18497275There were never any german crusaders in Spain and the French who came were virtually all from the Iberian parts of Francethe reason there is less african admixture is because the south was settled by colonists from the northern peninsula>>18497352Amerimongrel not knowing the difference between nafris and subsaharans award.
>>18497636the spanish are just catholic nafris 2bh
>>18496763What's the source for French DNA in Spain?
>>18497638there isn't, but there is plenty of iberian dna in france
>>18496763Pre-Roman populations in Iberia already had """north african""" admixture
>>18497636Nafris have subsaharan ancestry, so do iberians.
>>18496763North africans are medsWe built civilization, cope
>>18496763Africa.Fucking moron.
>>18497718it didn't >>18497816med is not a thing, and berbers/northwest africans didn't build any civilization>>18496763punics are not a good proxy for berber ancestry
>>18497811no sub saharan ancestry in nafris is more recent and the idea that ibm was partly ssa is outdated
>>18497874>med is not a thingit isgreeks and romans were meds
>>18497875Iberomaurusians are part west eurasian mulattoes and pure ANA are niggers, but Iberians also have modern nafri ancestry.
>>18497880yes, they were geographically mediterranean
>>18497881>pure ANA are niggersno, this is outdated since like 2024, get up to date if you don't know anything> but Iberians also have modern nafri ancestrynope, nafri ancestry is at the very least pre medieval
>>18497885>no, this is outdated since like 2024, get up to date if you don't know anythingnot him but it's a matter of semantics, the study showed that takarkori is more african than a somali, to most people that means an african>nope, nafri ancestry is at the very least pre medievalnafri ancestry in any significant amount is from the roman period, the punics were barely north african themselves and didn't affect iberia, and before that north african ancestry was extremely sporadic
>>18497890Guess Iron age galicia wasn't what it is now.
Retarded fake picture posted by some seething nigger
>>18497883and genetically too>The tall, blue-eyed, fair-skinned, platinum blonds of the so-called ‘Nordic race’ which established itself in Scandinavia forms the only group remotely qualified for the label of ‘white’.>They bore little resemblance to the squat, brown-eyed, swarthy-skinned and black-haired people of the so-called 'Mediterranean' or 'Indo-Mediterranean Race' which dominated large parts of the south. Between the two extremes there were numerous gradations. Most of the Peninsula's population can be clearly distinguished from the Mongoloid, Indoid, and Negroid races, but not from other groups predominating in the Near East and North Africa.
>>18497891all of iberia had 0 or 0. percentage of north african ancestry, same or lower steppe compared to today and higher mesolithic HG ancestry, overall they resembled modern basques, as we see with the tartessian sample this was true in the south too
>>18497897nope, there's no medirranean genetic cluster, but you're welcome to provide evidence for this cluster existing, the romans and the greeks themselves were not particularly close to each other, the ancient greeks were closer to thracians or western anatolians than to romans, likewise the romans were closer to celts and iberians than to greeks
>>18497890>the study showed that takarkori is more african than a somalithey weren't subsaharan full stop, what most epople think is irrelevant, and yes it's actually highly debatable if horners should be considered subsaharans>nafri ancestry in any significant amount is from the roman periodyes so what i said, though we don't know that for sure either
>>18497912>they weren't subsaharan full stop, what most epople think is irrelevant, and yes it's actually highly debatable if horners should be considered subsaharansnope, the f4 stats prove that they were more african than somalis, full stop, this a fact, they had as much relations to africans as somalis do, learn how f4 stats work and stop being an ignorant baboonlook at the f4 formula at the top of the image, when you have stats like this: f4(chimpanzee, population1; population2, population3), if they come out positive, it means that population1 is "closer" to population3 than to population2, vice versa, if negative, they demonstrate that population1 is "closer" to population2 than to population3in our case, when we replace x with somalis we have f4(Chimp,ZlatyKun; Somalis, Takarkori) and the somalis score negative which means that zlaty kun is closer to somalis than to takarkori, aka somalis are less african than takarkori aka takarkori is more african than a somalido not mention this study again if you cannot real f4s>yes so what i said, though we don't know that for sure eitherwe absolutely know for sure that it's largely from the roman period and there was basically no north african ancestry in iron age iberia and prior to that outside a few outliers
>>18497912>they weren't subsaharan full stopOnly geographically, a basque is more related to a philippine negrito pygmy than to takarkori.If Takarkori isn't subsaharan then Mota isn't either and Somalis are germanic vikangz.
>>18497920>>18497921who care about distances? They still weren't bantus
>>18497940Sub-saharan doesn't just mean bantu, a bantu is closer to european than a bushman and less close than a nilote but all are sub-saharan.
>>18497940keep in mind that the samples has between 7 and 27% eurasian ancestry depending on the model, if that percentage of eurasian ancestry were to be removed they would easily turn out as more african drifted than the masai samples
>>18497946the whole premise was about iberians being part bantus, the takarkori aren't bantu, i don't care what else they might have been
>>18497875>ibm was partly ssa is outdatedmeanwhile the population most similar to takarkori
>>18497984Alberto Barbosa?
>>18497989maybe that's why that somali halfbreed and every nafri on earth keeps insisting takarkori were not black saar closer to ooa saar berbers were aryan before arab slave trade saar
>>18497984takarkori aren't particularly close to any populationalso ANA exists in natufians and therefore in ANF, btw
>>18498005not sure what that widely known fact has to do with me but ok
>>18496789I've always argued that southern europe is less north african than they used to be because for the last 800 years the bulk of their unchecked migration has come from the north and they are more hostile to the migration from the south thanks to Islam.
>>18498019backed by science in both spain and italy, although it's more noticeable with levantine blood
>>18498019>>18498020only true in iberia, since the north african ancestry in iberia was higher than today during the roman-visigoth-muslim period, italy and greece never had any significant north african migrations
>>18498013not with you but to the people who want to pretend that this dna component is unique to iberians
Lots of incel energy in this thread
>>18498005>also ANA exists in natufians and therefore in ANF, btwin the order of a few percentage points you can count on 1 hand>>18498096>not with you but to the people who want to pretend that this dna component is unique to iberiansno one gives two shits about iberia, low iq retard
>>18498108this thread is literally about iberia mongoloid
>>18498096Iberians having excessive amounts of it is significant since it's more distant than any OOA component. Even to neolithic euros.
>>18498122it's still residual regardless and it's not a component foreign to europe to begin with, cope.
>>18498150There is a world of difference to getting shit baked in ANF and getting shit baked in iron age nafris unless you're of the type to consider syrian migrants are based since their components aren't foreign to Europe.
>>18496763It's all recent and comes from moor and nigger rape, spicniards are coping subhuman moor rapebabies, don't listen to their pathetic "it's le ancient o algo" copes>There is an axis of significant genetic differentiation along the east–west direction, in contrast to remarkable genetic similarity in the north–south direction. North African admixture, associated with the Islamic conquest, can be dated to the period between c. AD 860–1120>To distinguish between possible scenarios that could produce these patterns, we applied the GLOBETROTTER method to each of our six clusters (Methods). GLOBETROTTER infers dates of admixture and the make-up of the source populations, and tests whether admixture patterns are consistent with a simple mixing of two groups at a single time in the past, compared to more complex alternative models. GLOBETROTTER found strong evidence (p<0.01) of admixture for all six clusters.>For all six clusters, an extremely similar event was inferred, in a tight time-range of 860–1120 CE, and with similar source groups, present in varying proportions (4–10% for the minor group). The major source was inferred to contain almost exclusively European donor groups, and the minor source is made up of mainly north-west African donor groups, including Western Sahara, and to a lesser extent west Africans (YRI), consistent with the overall ancestry profiles.>The ‘Portugal-Andalucia’ cluster shows the greatest YRI contribution, and also shows some evidence of a second admixture date, with a more recent event involving only sub-Saharan-African-like and European-like source groups. This indicates a recent pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA, independent of the north African component.
>>18498183The black legends were true...
>>18498189Reminder that just 1-3% negroid DNA is already enough to turn a white person brown, similar to how a drop of shit in a cup of milk ruins the whole drink. This is why Moorberians will never be white no matter where they cluster on a PCA.
>>18498189nah, outdated globetrotter predictions, actual samples and new studies have confirmed that it's from the roman periodhowever, to be fair iberians claim that it's from the neoltihic or the paleolithic or some retarded shit for some reason when they say it's from before the muslim conquest, they don't claim it's from the roman periodthe north african punics used here are 4 heavily berber outliers btw>In addition to the Eastern Mediterranean influence, a North African genetic component became prominent in the Roman period, as reflected in a shift of sampled Iberian individuals toward the PCA space occupied by North Africans (Figure 1C; yellow polygon). Previous work detected North African ancestry during the Roman period in four individuals from one site in Granada (southeast Mediterranean area) (Olalde et al., 2019). We now document this signal ranging from 3-66% of ancestry in all the newly reported Roman-Period individuals (n=32) from this area, excavated at three different urban sites covering the coast (ancient Malaca and ancient Baria) and the inland (ancient Acinipo), and one rural inland site, Coracho Basilica close to present-day Lucena (Córdoba). This signal is also clearly present in nearly all individuals from the seven Late Antiquity sites in this area, with the highest proportions observed in coastal sites such as Baria on the eastern part and Arroyo Vaquero on the western part closer to the Gibraltar Strait.>North African ancestry is not restricted to the southeastern Mediterranean and is also detectable in other areas, although generally at lower proportions (Figure 2A). In the Central Iberian Plateau, we detect it in 6 Late Antiquity sites ranging from 4-85% (with only five individuals out of 29 without any Nort African signal, Table S5).
>>18498167it's residual anyway, latvians and ukrainians have much less ana than spaniards and yet they're subhumans by virtually every metric in comparison>>18498183the amount of seething and sheer denial here
>>18498253Sovokism ruined Latvia and Ukraine, but Poland is genetically pretty much the same and surpassed Spain pretty quickly considering it's been less than 40 years, Latvia would follow suit if it had the economies of scale and Ukraine would do so if it wasn't still in the CIS-sphere.
>>18498289>Sovokism ruined Latvia and Ukrainethey always were dogshits>and surpassed Spainno they haven't lmfao? poland is a shithole compared to spain even with all the immigrants like spain still has some hundreds of thousands of polish immigrants working as construction workers and toilet cleanersalso i was talking from a historical perspective. spain and portugal and spaniards and portugueses accomplished far more than all these countries combined and it's not even close, like even portugal is enough. even canarians on an individual basis are superior to any baltoid or slav
"med" is a term of stolen valor which iberians and latinx use to try and claim the accomplishments of vastly superior italians, french and greeks.
>>18498019>and they are more hostile to the migration from the south thanks to Islam.LMAO
>>18498304this map is false and immigrants in spain come from latin america, muslim immigrants aren't even 5% of the population
>>18498312the percentages are not false tho, spain is french tier as far as immigration is concerned, actually surprised portugal is 95% portugese, they're also turbocucks turboleftists and brazilians migrate there en masse
>>18497636>from the Iberian parts of Francethe, huh... what?
>>18498312>senoooooor we are the good type of immigrant o algo
spain doesn't have an immigration problem they said
>>18498323how is a random submid mentally ill whore making up shit about getting gangraped for attention related to immigrants? euthanizing this bitch is one of the most based thing the PSOE did these past few years>>18498316no the numbers are false because second and third generations immigrants are not counted, germany, france, belgium and some other countries should be much higher>>18498319parts of south western france that are genetically more spanish than french essentially
>>18498316>>18498333the fact that france, belgium etc has comparable numbers to spain while only counting first gen immigrants is what is really dreadfulin spain immigration trends are much more new so there isn't many second gen yet
>>18498333>how is a random submid mentally ill whore making up shit about getting gangraped for attention related to immigrants? euthanizing this bitch is one of the most based thing the PSOE did these past few yearsyou just hate her because she was catalan(white) while you're extremaduran(brown)
>>18498339>>18498333i wish you were right but that's not the case, spain really is similar to frence, the proportions of non european immigrants are the same
>>18498341noelia castillo ramos has to be one of the least catalan name out there lol
>>18498333>senooooor she made it up no problem with immigrants senooooorkek
>thread about spain>they start seething about francewhy are they like this
nobody talked about france here schizo
>>18498356>nobody talked about france herediego or paco larping as med went into "reee france" mode here>>18498339>>18498333
It wouldn't even be such a big deal if latams just owned it and started forging their own identity independent of westerners who want nothing to do with the. Unfortunately they are so owned by whites the massive inferiority complex comes through every time. you don't come from tribes that was literally raped into extinction without some serious psychological issues. all the smart latam politicians pivoted to thord worldism for a reason
>>18498253>the amount of seething and sheer denial hereI just showed you a quote from a genetic study that objectively proves you're a nigger moor rapebaby and the only thing your inferior spicniard brain could do is cope
Yes, your ancestors got raped by nafris and niggers for 800 yearsYes, you're a brown moor rapebabyYes, you will be conquered by africans againNo, you're not aryan o algo
>>18498299>also i was talking from a historical perspectiveWorthless unless it translates to success in the present, that's why it's the refuge of all manner of swarthoids from latinx to turks, persians and jeets.
>>18498413they aren't being particularly succesful in the present either tho
>>18498323What is the name of the woman in your pic? After reading what the other anons are saying and seething about like pathetic timmys I want to read her story now lmao, yes I am brown and proud. It brings me so much joy to read that some lying racist was killed by the Spanish government, like cosmic justice and karma slightly paying back what the universe owes to minorities
I would ask that you leave the memory of that murdered girl in peace. Those insecure people obsessed with Spain can continue their ridiculous meme "crusade" without offending innocent people like her. At least have that minimum of decency.
>>18496798It's not "nordicists". It's jeets, spics, nafris and the occasional kike
>>18498474https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noelia_Castillo_euthanasia_casespanish and hispanista nationalists learned their place
>>18497636>Iberian is literally fucking blind awardLook at the painting, you daft cunt. You can clearly see 3-4 black African individuals depicted, no they're not north African they're clearly painted with a very dark skin tone that is obviously subsaharan African. I don't know why you'd even bitch about this when Portugal was the one who still had African territory well into the 1970s and whose exploration laurels are literally from circumnavigating the continent of Africa.
>>18497816Literally picrel lmao
>>18499579>WE WUZZ ROMANS YOU STUPID MEXICAN!!!>whitie doesn't know kek lmao evenand how does your cope meme even invalidate what i said? north africa is clearly highlighted there
>>18499030How does Lisbon, capital of global trade, having niggers translate into the Portuguese having North African admixture?
>>18496763That's accurate.
>>18499596It indicates they lived there (and if sub Saharan Africans lived there then it would be even easier for North Africans to), slaves got emancipated and given the entirety of Brazil it's also pretty obvious that the Portuguese didn't mind having kids with them and providing for those kids as their own.
>>18496763In the Middle Ages, after Spanish explorers first made contact with sub-Saharan Africa, the immediately started importing Blacks and converting them to Christianity and intermarrying with them.
>>18499668>it would be even easier for North AfricansNot really since they were Muslim and Portugal had a centuries long conflict with Morocco. King Sebastian was killed in battle As it's been said countless times before, that North African DNA is most likely from before Roman timeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroccan%E2%80%93Portuguese_conflicts
>>18499620reality is unrealistic
