>Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them.
>>18500684Why do Christians and Jews believe offering up your own virgin daughters to be gangraped is a good thing?
>>18500695Because God says so, duuh!
>>18500684Don't forget - the daughters then made him drunk and had sex with him, after the wife was turned into a salt pillar. This is a very serious religion indeed.
>>18500695Straight sex is better than gay sex.
>>18500684A similar story happens in Judges. The Levite and the Concubine.The Benjamite offers up his daughter and the Levite offers up his concubine.The Levite got his concubine out and she was raped to death.
>>18500684another thread made by this retard
>>18500762and another thread where no christian will be able to engage and explain a seemingly simple and silly thingslave religion.
>>18500684A lot of people say that Sodom and Gomorrah is the proof that homosexuality is wrong, but was the sin the fact they lusted after men, or the fact they lusted after angels and tried to literally rape them? Sodomy usually is about gay sex, but like, in real Sodom, they were trying to rape angels, I feel like it is worse than just having sex with a man. The Bible still clearly condemns homosexuality, but I feel like Sodom and Gomorrah was a special case unrelated to that though lol.
>>18500729>>18502581The big sin they committed was violence towards guests. Lot offers his daughters because hospitality to guests was ridiculously important to ancient people
>>18500684Why do you feel the need to spend all day mocking inane bronze and iron age nonsense about cosmic foreskin enthusiasts? You aren't found to simply undo the years of mental conditioning needed to make someone actually accept that shit as being literal historical truth. Why bother? Do you just like arguing with them? Why not actually post about history and the humanities instead making yet another pointless retard fight club of a thread?>>18500695That's probably more explicable than you think. Bronze age Mediterranean myth was full of stories about hospitality toward a god or strangers who turned out to be a god, and the punishment of hosts who fail to give proper hospitality. This instance is probably downstream of that, except the logic of the yawhist priesthood was clearly not quite compatible with the story. The purity of god's angels must be upheld to properly fulfill Lot's responsibility of hospitality, and the story is intended to take the model of poor hosts being punished and apply it to the whole city except Lot's family, so his decision to offer to substitute his own daughters to be defiled in the place of god's messengers is intended to be an act of extreme piety and commitment to his obligations to his god. His commitment to yahweh is of greater importance than to his children. This is hardly the only time this comes up, anon. It's called an abrahamic religion. It is tempting to compare it with the hindu idea showing deference to a deity by defiling oneself. Like smearing yourself with cow shit. God is so holy that being raped to preserve proper deference would be a pious act. But I don't think that idea really comes up in yawhism so it is probably not a valid comparison.
>>18502581They were identified as men. That's what the men gathering around Lot's house thought they were. It's not clear that Lot even knew they were angels until they blinded the men outside and told him of God's impending wrath.>>18502585No. It's clearly said by Lot for them to "Don't do this wicked thing." In which he's referring to their request in having sex with his guests who they identified as men.
>>18502585>>18502634Unless we're going with the KJV, in which it's written as:>bring them out unto us, that we may know themGiven the following passages to take his daughters instead, I think we can both infer to what's really being asked for here.
>>18502585>>18502634>>18502639Oh, yeah. Lot says that it's 'wicked' in the KJV version to "know them."So, we know what he's talking about.
>>18500695>>18500723To give benefit of the doubt, I believe this story is intended as a descriptor of something they believed historically happened and they’re just recording as opposed to putting it down as an example to live by.
>>18500684Lot did this out of DESPERATIONDesperation to SAVE the cityLot saw them approaching the city. He does not know who or what they are. But he damn knows that they are not creatures that you should piss offIn fact, Lok was standing on the city walls precisely because he knows how corrupted the city has become and he knows that it will soon be subjected to God's wrath. And he wants to save it, the only way he could - by treating the judges as great as he could
>>18500695Why do atheists project their sick perverted fantasies onto Christians and then get mad at Christians?
>>18500729Rape isn't sex anon. Surely you wouldn't say that straight rape is better than gay sex right anon?
>>18503000>group of gay men demand to have sex with your guests>you attempt to dissuade them by offering to bring out your daughters>this is somehow worse in Anon's judgmentYeah, I guess letting your guests get fucked in the ass is the morally correct choice here.